Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Rob Oakes wrote: Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly (at least not without standing on my head). I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services Voice: 503-631-7815 Cell: 503-349-8432 http://www.wescottdesign.com
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote: Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly (at least not without standing on my head). I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine. :-) I know how you feel Tim. When I began LyXing in 2001, LyX had no character styles. I learned this the hard way after I had finished outlining and was well into writing Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist. This would have been a showstopper -- I would have had to drop LyX. As is my tradition, I griped on the list. Most list members told me just to use emph or noun or maybe a little ERT, which of course would go against my whole styles-based philosophy. I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is his method: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March 2006, when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out with true character styles and have used them ever since. So when you say I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine, I know EXACTLY what you mean. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
- Original Message
From: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 21:18:48
Subject: Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote:
(The following quotes are in reverse order to the original email, since that's
the order I want to reply in.)
I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March
2006,
when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see
http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out
with true character styles and have used them ever since.
Wow, that is _so useful_! I really wish I knew about character styles when I
wrote my MSc project in LyX last year; there was a certain type of label that
I'd finger painted with underline, and at the last minute changed my mind and
switched them all to bold. This wouldn't have been so bad, except that I
needed
an ERT pre/postfix to get the maths in each label bold as well ({\boldmath
and
}).
I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl
Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character
style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is
his
method:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles
s
That is a dirty, nasty hack... and I love it! Even this would have been good
enough for what I needed in my MSc project.
Oh well, thanks for sharing. I'm sure the character styles knowledge will
still
save me plenty of time in future!
Jim
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Rob Oakes wrote: Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly (at least not without standing on my head). I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services Voice: 503-631-7815 Cell: 503-349-8432 http://www.wescottdesign.com
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote: Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly (at least not without standing on my head). I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine. :-) I know how you feel Tim. When I began LyXing in 2001, LyX had no character styles. I learned this the hard way after I had finished outlining and was well into writing Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist. This would have been a showstopper -- I would have had to drop LyX. As is my tradition, I griped on the list. Most list members told me just to use emph or noun or maybe a little ERT, which of course would go against my whole styles-based philosophy. I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is his method: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March 2006, when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out with true character styles and have used them ever since. So when you say I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine, I know EXACTLY what you mean. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
- Original Message
From: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 21:18:48
Subject: Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote:
(The following quotes are in reverse order to the original email, since that's
the order I want to reply in.)
I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March
2006,
when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see
http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out
with true character styles and have used them ever since.
Wow, that is _so useful_! I really wish I knew about character styles when I
wrote my MSc project in LyX last year; there was a certain type of label that
I'd finger painted with underline, and at the last minute changed my mind and
switched them all to bold. This wouldn't have been so bad, except that I
needed
an ERT pre/postfix to get the maths in each label bold as well ({\boldmath
and
}).
I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl
Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character
style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is
his
method:
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles
s
That is a dirty, nasty hack... and I love it! Even this would have been good
enough for what I needed in my MSc project.
Oh well, thanks for sharing. I'm sure the character styles knowledge will
still
save me plenty of time in future!
Jim
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On 11/22/2010 11:56 AM, Rob Oakes wrote: Hi Tim, Footnotes in floats are weird. Floats can migrate from page to page in an effort to balance the page layout. This causes their footnotes to get left behind (or cut out completely). Try placing the table inside a minipage (box) within the float. This will make sure that it stays on the same page. It will also use a different numbering scheme (a,b,c ... if using the standard classes) and not screw up your document footnote numbering. Cheers, Rob Oakes Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly (at least not without standing on my head). I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services Voice: 503-631-7815 Cell: 503-349-8432 http://www.wescottdesign.com
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote: > Ah, perfect. That turns it into the 'table note' that I'm used to > seeing, and could never coerce OpenOffice or Word into doing correctly > (at least not without standing on my head). > > I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, > because this is very fine. :-) I know how you feel Tim. When I began LyXing in 2001, LyX had no character styles. I learned this the hard way after I had finished outlining and was well into writing "Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist". This would have been a showstopper -- I would have had to drop LyX. As is my tradition, I griped on the list. Most list members told me just to use emph or noun or maybe a little ERT, which of course would go against my whole styles-based philosophy. I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is his method: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March 2006, when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out with true character styles and have used them ever since. So when you say "I could whine and say that should happen automagically, but I won't, because this is very fine", I know EXACTLY what you mean. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
- Original Message
> From: Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com>
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Sent: Mon, 22 November, 2010 21:18:48
> Subject: Re: I just lost a footnote in a table
>
> On Monday 22 November 2010 15:03:38 Tim Wescott wrote:
>
(The following quotes are in reverse order to the original email, since that's
the order I want to reply in.)
> I happily used Dekl's pseudo-character-styles from late 2001 until March
> 2006,
>
> when version 1.4.0 came out with true character styles (see
> http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_4_0.txt). I was ecstatic when 1.4.0 came out
> with true character styles and have used them ever since.
Wow, that is _so useful_! I really wish I knew about character styles when I
wrote my MSc project in LyX last year; there was a certain type of label that
I'd finger painted with underline, and at the last minute changed my mind and
switched them all to bold. This wouldn't have been so bad, except that I
needed
an ERT pre/postfix to get the maths in each label bold as well ("{\boldmath"
and
"}").
>
> I was ready to dump LyX and go back to MS Word when a list member named Dekl
> Tsur showed me a way that I could use colored text to represent a character
> style. So instead of having names, my character styles had colors. Here is
> his
>
> method:
>
>http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/self_publish_lyx.htm#SimulatingCharacterStylesWithColorPseudostyles
>s
>
That is a dirty, nasty hack... and I love it! Even this would have been good
enough for what I needed in my MSc project.
Oh well, thanks for sharing. I'm sure the character styles knowledge will
still
save me plenty of time in future!
Jim
Re: footnote in a table
Francisco Hidalgo Sola wrote: El Mié 19 May 2004 08:55, Juergen Spitzmueller escribió: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab I had the same problem some days ago, and I set the table as long table and the footnote appeared at the end of the page. Really? I've also set it to long table (did that anyway), but in my case, it does not show. I use the article document class. Do you use another one? Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
Francisco Hidalgo Sola wrote: El Mié 19 May 2004 08:55, Juergen Spitzmueller escribió: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab I had the same problem some days ago, and I set the table as long table and the footnote appeared at the end of the page. Really? I've also set it to long table (did that anyway), but in my case, it does not show. I use the article document class. Do you use another one? Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
Francisco Hidalgo Sola wrote: El Mié 19 May 2004 08:55, Juergen Spitzmueller escribió: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab I had the same problem some days ago, and I set the table as "long table" and the footnote appeared at the end of the page. Really? I've also set it to long table (did that anyway), but in my case, it does not show. I use the article document class. Do you use another one? Vinay
footnote in a table
Hi, is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. I do not necessarily need the actual note in the table. LaTeX will figure where it should be, probably at the bottom of the page. I do want the superscript number inside the table though, so I cannot make the superscript outside the table. The way I tried to do it is just like with any other footnote but that obviously doesn't work. Is there an other way? I use LyX 1.3.3 under SuSE 8.0 with the teTeX package that comes with that version. Thanks a lot, Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Regards, Jürgen
Re: footnote in a table
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much, so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the footnote-issue). Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 12:42, Vinay Ramnath wrote:
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Vinay Ramnath wrote:
is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript
number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do
not get the actual footnote.
That's a LaTeX restriction. See
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab
Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much,
so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would
make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the
footnote-issue).
Vinay
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Les
Re: footnote in a table
Les Denham wrote:
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Yeah, I read that in the document Mark linked to. The point is that I
have six footnotes, so it is a bit more complex this time. It might work
in a more simple case indeed.
Thank you,
Vinay
footnote in a table
Hi, is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. I do not necessarily need the actual note in the table. LaTeX will figure where it should be, probably at the bottom of the page. I do want the superscript number inside the table though, so I cannot make the superscript outside the table. The way I tried to do it is just like with any other footnote but that obviously doesn't work. Is there an other way? I use LyX 1.3.3 under SuSE 8.0 with the teTeX package that comes with that version. Thanks a lot, Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Regards, Jürgen
Re: footnote in a table
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much, so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the footnote-issue). Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 12:42, Vinay Ramnath wrote:
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Vinay Ramnath wrote:
is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript
number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do
not get the actual footnote.
That's a LaTeX restriction. See
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab
Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much,
so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would
make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the
footnote-issue).
Vinay
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Les
Re: footnote in a table
Les Denham wrote:
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Yeah, I read that in the document Mark linked to. The point is that I
have six footnotes, so it is a bit more complex this time. It might work
in a more simple case indeed.
Thank you,
Vinay
footnote in a table
Hi, is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. I do not necessarily need the actual note in the table. LaTeX will figure where it should be, probably at the bottom of the page. I do want the superscript number inside the table though, so I cannot make the superscript outside the table. The way I tried to do it is just like with any other footnote but that obviously doesn't work. Is there an other way? I use LyX 1.3.3 under SuSE 8.0 with the teTeX package that comes with that version. Thanks a lot, Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
Vinay Ramnath wrote: > is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript > number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do > not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Regards, Jürgen
Re: footnote in a table
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Vinay Ramnath wrote: is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do not get the actual footnote. That's a LaTeX restriction. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much, so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the footnote-issue). Vinay
Re: footnote in a table
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 12:42, Vinay Ramnath wrote:
> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > Vinay Ramnath wrote:
> >>is it possible to make a footnote in a table? I do get the superscript
> >>number at the position of the word I want to make a note about, but I do
> >>not get the actual footnote.
> >
> > That's a LaTeX restriction. See
> > http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=footintab
>
> Allright, thanks a lot. I think I don't need these footnotes that much,
> so I'll let it go. I just upgraded to LyX 1.3.4 to see if that would
> make a difference, but of course that didn't (concerning the
> footnote-issue).
>
> Vinay
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Les
Re: footnote in a table
Les Denham wrote:
You can put the footnote in the table (which gives the superscript number)
then immediately after the table add the text of the footnote in ERT:
\footnotetext{The actual footnote goes here}
This works perfectly for a small table and one footnote. I don't know whether
it works in more complex situations.
Yeah, I read that in the document Mark linked to. The point is that I
have six footnotes, so it is a bit more complex this time. It might work
in a more simple case indeed.
Thank you,
Vinay
