Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

 Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
 html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.
 
Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. With
some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive. 

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



Stephen Harris wrote:


Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages 
article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. 
With

some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive.

Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/

Using XY-pic in LyX (Documentation) html or pdf

LyX converted the original file to .pdf and the
conversion is nearly perfect, which earns the word great.
No editing of the source doc is needed to fix the output.

Compare this to the quality of conversion of tex4ht using
htlatex which made the same file in html format. 15 to 25
errors is good but not great in my book. The html flaws
don't get magically corrected when importing html into
.doc format. Yes, the maintainer quickly sent a fix for one
error (XY-pic) which was repeated a few times. Because
latex2html was worse (fi ligatures) doesn't make htlatex great.

My standards dictate that using comment enabled pdf will
create a lot less work than proofreading and editing sections
of a thesis converted from LyX-Latex-tex4ht-Word.
Since that was the context, comment-enabled pdf is a
great method and tex4ht good, or even very good. Perhaps
your example doesn't include logo words with space problems.

By massaging don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
best method (better than png) available for conversion from
Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of great when
compared to LyX-pdf conversion. This topic has lots of
press and there is already a consensus expert opinion which
uses a larger sample and fails to support: 'wrong, it is too great'.

Macro regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

 
 By massaging don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
 I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
 best method (better than png) available for conversion from
 Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of great when
 compared to LyX-pdf conversion. 

I totally agree with you. TeX4ht will not work well with documents
impossible (or very difficult) to create in Word with formulas, diagrams,
etc. But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to MsWord. 

It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.

One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common knowledge
in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to 
MsWord.




What an interesting line of work, studying intrigues of Court.
I read The Prince when I was too young to understand it.
Never saw the attraction of re-enacting old battles.


It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.




One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common
knowledge in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.



I was surprised that it did as good as job as it did. I had been
conditioned on what to expect by computer folklore. And the
field of study of the OP might be publishable similar to yours. I
tried using Adobe Pro to convert pdf to Word (they made a deal)
and that combo did an unacceptable job on that LyX/XY-pic tutorial.


Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




I'll take a look at your website,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

in my experience it will not work.

time is wasted on converting documents from lyx2word and visa versa. a lot
of time!

its a pain in the arse working in word, but so be it.

a lot about this issue is already written in the lyx wiki and in previous
threads on this mail list. do check it out!

sorry, but thats the way it is, IMHO


martin

On 22/02/06, Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom Tom wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
  would like to do this in lyx.
  One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
  correct it are working in MsWord!
 
 The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
 mark it and gave them back to you.


  Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
  to .doc?
 
  I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
  This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
  layout will be lost?!

 No, the tex - doc converters are today much more powerful than they were
 a
 couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.

 The most powerful way is lyx - latex - oowriter -- doc with tex4ht

 The alternative way is lyx - latex - rtf with rtf2latex

 Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
 rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to
 use.

 It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
 complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
 conversion.

 Charles

 --
 http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

 Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
 html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.
 
Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. With
some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive. 

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



Stephen Harris wrote:


Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages 
article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. 
With

some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive.

Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/

Using XY-pic in LyX (Documentation) html or pdf

LyX converted the original file to .pdf and the
conversion is nearly perfect, which earns the word great.
No editing of the source doc is needed to fix the output.

Compare this to the quality of conversion of tex4ht using
htlatex which made the same file in html format. 15 to 25
errors is good but not great in my book. The html flaws
don't get magically corrected when importing html into
.doc format. Yes, the maintainer quickly sent a fix for one
error (XY-pic) which was repeated a few times. Because
latex2html was worse (fi ligatures) doesn't make htlatex great.

My standards dictate that using comment enabled pdf will
create a lot less work than proofreading and editing sections
of a thesis converted from LyX-Latex-tex4ht-Word.
Since that was the context, comment-enabled pdf is a
great method and tex4ht good, or even very good. Perhaps
your example doesn't include logo words with space problems.

By massaging don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
best method (better than png) available for conversion from
Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of great when
compared to LyX-pdf conversion. This topic has lots of
press and there is already a consensus expert opinion which
uses a larger sample and fails to support: 'wrong, it is too great'.

Macro regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

 
 By massaging don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
 I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
 best method (better than png) available for conversion from
 Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of great when
 compared to LyX-pdf conversion. 

I totally agree with you. TeX4ht will not work well with documents
impossible (or very difficult) to create in Word with formulas, diagrams,
etc. But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to MsWord. 

It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.

One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common knowledge
in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to 
MsWord.




What an interesting line of work, studying intrigues of Court.
I read The Prince when I was too young to understand it.
Never saw the attraction of re-enacting old battles.


It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.




One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common
knowledge in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.



I was surprised that it did as good as job as it did. I had been
conditioned on what to expect by computer folklore. And the
field of study of the OP might be publishable similar to yours. I
tried using Adobe Pro to convert pdf to Word (they made a deal)
and that combo did an unacceptable job on that LyX/XY-pic tutorial.


Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




I'll take a look at your website,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

in my experience it will not work.

time is wasted on converting documents from lyx2word and visa versa. a lot
of time!

its a pain in the arse working in word, but so be it.

a lot about this issue is already written in the lyx wiki and in previous
threads on this mail list. do check it out!

sorry, but thats the way it is, IMHO


martin

On 22/02/06, Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom Tom wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
  would like to do this in lyx.
  One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
  correct it are working in MsWord!
 
 The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
 mark it and gave them back to you.


  Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
  to .doc?
 
  I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
  This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
  layout will be lost?!

 No, the tex - doc converters are today much more powerful than they were
 a
 couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.

 The most powerful way is lyx - latex - oowriter -- doc with tex4ht

 The alternative way is lyx - latex - rtf with rtf2latex

 Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
 rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to
 use.

 It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
 complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
 conversion.

 Charles

 --
 http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

> Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
> html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.
> 
Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. With
some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive. 

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles de Miramon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



Stephen Harris wrote:


Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Wrong. Tex4ht converts well to Oowriter. I've done it for a 54 pages 
article
with footnotes, a jurabib bibliography, tables and some custom macros. 
With

some massaging, it worked very well. TeX4ht has some bugs but the
maintainer is very active and responsive.

Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/

Using XY-pic in LyX (Documentation) html or pdf

LyX converted the original file to .pdf and the
conversion is nearly perfect, which earns the word "great".
No editing of the source doc is needed to fix the output.

Compare this to the quality of conversion of tex4ht using
htlatex which made the same file in html format. 15 to 25
errors is good but not great in my book. The html flaws
don't get magically corrected when importing html into
.doc format. Yes, the maintainer quickly sent a fix for one
error (XY-pic) which was repeated a few times. Because
latex2html was worse (fi ligatures) doesn't make htlatex great.

My standards dictate that using comment enabled pdf will
create a lot less work than proofreading and editing sections
of a thesis converted from LyX->Latex->tex4ht->Word.
Since that was the context, comment-enabled pdf is a
great method and tex4ht good, or even very good. Perhaps
your example doesn't include logo words with space problems.

By "massaging" don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
best method (better than png) available for conversion from
Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of "great" when
compared to LyX->pdf conversion. This topic has lots of
press and there is already a consensus expert opinion which
uses a larger sample and fails to support: 'wrong, it is too great'.

Macro regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Stephen Harris wrote:

 
> By "massaging" don't you mean proofreading and editing. Also
> I once posted that Fabrice Popineau stated that tex4ht was the
> best method (better than png) available for conversion from
> Latex to Word. It is, but that still falls short of "great" when
> compared to LyX->pdf conversion. 

I totally agree with you. TeX4ht will not work well with documents
impossible (or very difficult) to create in Word with formulas, diagrams,
etc. But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to MsWord. 

It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.

One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common knowledge
in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.

Cheers,
Charles
-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles de Miramon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



But in my field of work, Medieval History, it is possible today to
write an article in Lyx and at the end of the process convert it to 
MsWord.




What an interesting line of work, studying intrigues of Court.
I read "The Prince" when I was too young to understand it.
Never saw the attraction of re-enacting old battles.


It is very important for me because 100 % of Scientific Journals and
Publishers in my field of study demand MsWord. I don't really care for a
'perfect' translation ; Journals will then reformat the article in their
own DTP system, I just don't want to loose any formatting information.




One should say loudly that TeX4ht works because it is too common
knowledge in LaTeX circles that Word and LaTeX are incompatible.



I was surprised that it did as good as job as it did. I had been
conditioned on what to expect by computer folklore. And the
field of study of the OP might be publishable similar to yours. I
tried using Adobe Pro to convert pdf to Word (they made a deal)
and that combo did an unacceptable job on that LyX/XY-pic tutorial.


Cheers,
Charles
--
http://www.kde-france.org




I'll take a look at your website,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

in my experience it will not work.

time is wasted on converting documents from lyx2word and visa versa. a lot
of time!

its a pain in the arse working in word, but so be it.

a lot about this issue is already written in the lyx wiki and in previous
threads on this mail list. do check it out!

sorry, but thats the way it is, IMHO


martin

On 22/02/06, Charles de Miramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tom Tom wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
> > would like to do this in lyx.
> > One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
> > correct it are working in MsWord!
> >
> The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
> mark it and gave them back to you.
>
>
> > Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
> > to .doc?
> >
> > I have read something about lyx->latex->rtf->doc .
> > This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
> > layout will be lost?!
>
> No, the tex -> doc converters are today much more powerful than they were
> a
> couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.
>
> The most powerful way is lyx -> latex -> oowriter --> doc with tex4ht
>
> The alternative way is lyx -> latex -> rtf with rtf2latex
>
> Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
> rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to
> use.
>
> It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
> complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
> conversion.
>
> Charles
>
> --
> http://www.kde-france.org
>
>

lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Tom Tom]

Hi all,

I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
would like to do this in lyx.
One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
correct it are working in MsWord! 

Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
to .doc?

I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Thanks a lot! 
L.


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Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Tom Tom wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
 would like to do this in lyx.
 One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
 correct it are working in MsWord!
 
The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
mark it and gave them back to you.


 Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
 to .doc?
 
 I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
 This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
 layout will be lost?!

No, the tex - doc converters are today much more powerful than they were a
couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.

The most powerful way is lyx - latex - oowriter -- doc with tex4ht 

The alternative way is lyx - latex - rtf with rtf2latex

Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to use. 

It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
conversion.

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Tom Tom writes:
 Hi all,

 I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
 would like to do this in lyx.
 One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
 correct it are working in MsWord!

Do you mean your readers? I would hope that their changes, comments, 
etc. are to be made with a red pencil. 

If you are lucky enough to have someone editing your work, then perhaps 
you can ask the person to install LyX?

-Kevin

-- 
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Tiros-Translations

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:
 I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
 This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
 layout will be lost?!
 
 Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:


However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.


Andre',

  Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
with both your work and your head. :-) One of the major benefits of
successfully defending my dissertation (a very long time ago) was not having
to assemble my committee of five faculty ever again.

Rich

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Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Bo Peng]

I successfully persuaded my adviser to install lyx. He does not know
how to insert a formula, but making small changes has been easy.

BTW, with the new windows installer (I mean the non-official one),
even your advisor can install lyx. :-)

Bo.

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:09:48AM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:
 
 However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
 thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.
 
 Andre',
 
   Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
 with both your work and your head. :-)

Mine certainly did not. And a .pdf was just fine.

 One of the major benefits of successfully defending my dissertation (a
 very long time ago) was not having to assemble my committee of five
 faculty ever again.

;-}

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Tom Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:

I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?


Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'



Adobe Acrobat Pro has the best pdf commenting tools available.
It is expensive, but you can input your standard .pdf thesis
file (exported or View/save) from LyX. You could also open that
file on somebody elses Pro and enable commenting. You can
use yellow notes, arrows, highlighting and more. You can save
the commenting enabled pdf file on cd or email it. There is also
ftp software to connect to computers and do large file transfers.
This feature was a main selling point of Pro 7. I dual boot and
if I new of a Open Source tool as good, I would recommend it.

Tech writers moved away from Word because it has/had a
horrible Master Document ineptitude. I've read a few dozen 
complaints about people using Word and losing their thesis if 
they dont know to take extreme backup precautions. Maybe 
Word2003 is better but I haven't heard that. The other program 
that does well with equations, but is costly, and has a learning 
curve is FrameMaker. Find somebody who owns Pro. There is 
no software to install and the commenting is quite intuitive. 
Maybe you could write sections in Word if they won't do

Pro edits, which also does conversion between Word and .pdf.
Maybe there is a Pro educational version without limitations.

Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Regards,
Stephen

lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Tom Tom]

Hi all,

I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
would like to do this in lyx.
One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
correct it are working in MsWord! 

Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
to .doc?

I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Thanks a lot! 
L.


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Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Tom Tom wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
 would like to do this in lyx.
 One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
 correct it are working in MsWord!
 
The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
mark it and gave them back to you.


 Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
 to .doc?
 
 I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
 This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
 layout will be lost?!

No, the tex - doc converters are today much more powerful than they were a
couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.

The most powerful way is lyx - latex - oowriter -- doc with tex4ht 

The alternative way is lyx - latex - rtf with rtf2latex

Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to use. 

It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
conversion.

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Tom Tom writes:
 Hi all,

 I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
 would like to do this in lyx.
 One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
 correct it are working in MsWord!

Do you mean your readers? I would hope that their changes, comments, 
etc. are to be made with a red pencil. 

If you are lucky enough to have someone editing your work, then perhaps 
you can ask the person to install LyX?

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:
 I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
 This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
 layout will be lost?!
 
 Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:


However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.


Andre',

  Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
with both your work and your head. :-) One of the major benefits of
successfully defending my dissertation (a very long time ago) was not having
to assemble my committee of five faculty ever again.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Bo Peng]

I successfully persuaded my adviser to install lyx. He does not know
how to insert a formula, but making small changes has been easy.

BTW, with the new windows installer (I mean the non-official one),
even your advisor can install lyx. :-)

Bo.

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:09:48AM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:
 
 However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
 thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.
 
 Andre',
 
   Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
 with both your work and your head. :-)

Mine certainly did not. And a .pdf was just fine.

 One of the major benefits of successfully defending my dissertation (a
 very long time ago) was not having to assemble my committee of five
 faculty ever again.

;-}

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Tom Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:

I have read something about lyx-latex-rtf-doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?


Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'



Adobe Acrobat Pro has the best pdf commenting tools available.
It is expensive, but you can input your standard .pdf thesis
file (exported or View/save) from LyX. You could also open that
file on somebody elses Pro and enable commenting. You can
use yellow notes, arrows, highlighting and more. You can save
the commenting enabled pdf file on cd or email it. There is also
ftp software to connect to computers and do large file transfers.
This feature was a main selling point of Pro 7. I dual boot and
if I new of a Open Source tool as good, I would recommend it.

Tech writers moved away from Word because it has/had a
horrible Master Document ineptitude. I've read a few dozen 
complaints about people using Word and losing their thesis if 
they dont know to take extreme backup precautions. Maybe 
Word2003 is better but I haven't heard that. The other program 
that does well with equations, but is costly, and has a learning 
curve is FrameMaker. Find somebody who owns Pro. There is 
no software to install and the commenting is quite intuitive. 
Maybe you could write sections in Word if they won't do

Pro edits, which also does conversion between Word and .pdf.
Maybe there is a Pro educational version without limitations.

Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Regards,
Stephen

lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Tom Tom]

Hi all,

I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
would like to do this in lyx.
One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
correct it are working in MsWord! 

Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
to .doc?

I have read something about lyx->latex->rtf->doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Thanks a lot! 
L.


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Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Charles de Miramon]

Tom Tom wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
> would like to do this in lyx.
> One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
> correct it are working in MsWord!
> 
The easiest way is to give pdf files to your supervisors. They print it,
mark it and gave them back to you.


> Is there an tested/validated way to convert lyx files
> to .doc?
> 
> I have read something about lyx->latex->rtf->doc .
> This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
> layout will be lost?!

No, the tex -> doc converters are today much more powerful than they were a
couple of years ago and you will be able to keep most of your layout.

The most powerful way is lyx -> latex -> oowriter --> doc with tex4ht 

The alternative way is lyx -> latex -> rtf with rtf2latex

Tex4ht is more powerful with bibliographies and custom environments.
rtf2latex has a more limited set of features but is fast and easier to use. 

It all depends on what you are writing. Create an example with the most
complex stuff you will be writing (math, tables, bibliography) and test
conversion.

Charles

-- 
http://www.kde-france.org

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Tom Tom writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I am about to begin to write up my Phd-thesis and
> would like to do this in lyx.
> One thing that worries me is that the Profs who will
> correct it are working in MsWord!

Do you mean your readers? I would hope that their changes, comments, 
etc. are to be made with a red pencil. 

If you are lucky enough to have someone editing your work, then perhaps 
you can ask the person to install LyX?

-Kevin

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:
> I have read something about lyx->latex->rtf->doc .
> This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
> layout will be lost?!
> 
> Any ideas / experience with something like that?

Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:


However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.


Andre',

  Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
with both your work and your head. :-) One of the major benefits of
successfully defending my dissertation (a very long time ago) was not having
to assemble my committee of five faculty ever again.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |   Author of "Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic"
 Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Bo Peng]

I successfully persuaded my adviser to install lyx. He does not know
how to insert a formula, but making small changes has been easy.

BTW, with the new windows installer (I mean the non-official one),
even your advisor can install lyx. :-)

Bo.

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Andre Poenitz]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:09:48AM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> 
> >However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with your
> >thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.
> 
> Andre',
> 
>   Who are you kidding? Thesis/dissertation advisors and committees will mess
> with both your work and your head. :-)

Mine certainly did not. And a .pdf was just fine.

> One of the major benefits of successfully defending my dissertation (a
> very long time ago) was not having to assemble my committee of five
> faculty ever again.

;-}

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Andre Poenitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Tom Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: lyx compatibility to MsWord etc



On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:45AM -0800, Tom Tom wrote:

I have read something about lyx->latex->rtf->doc .
This sounds not really promising, I guess all the
layout will be lost?!

Any ideas / experience with something like that?


Yes. It basically does not work properly.

However, as your professors aren't supposed to mess around with
your thesis, producing a .pdf should be completely sufficient.

Andre'



Adobe Acrobat Pro has the best pdf commenting tools available.
It is expensive, but you can input your standard .pdf thesis
file (exported or View/save) from LyX. You could also open that
file on somebody elses Pro and enable commenting. You can
use yellow notes, arrows, highlighting and more. You can save
the commenting enabled pdf file on cd or email it. There is also
ftp software to connect to computers and do large file transfers.
This feature was a main selling point of Pro 7. I dual boot and
if I new of a Open Source tool as good, I would recommend it.

Tech writers moved away from Word because it has/had a
horrible Master Document ineptitude. I've read a few dozen 
complaints about people using Word and losing their thesis if 
they dont know to take extreme backup precautions. Maybe 
Word2003 is better but I haven't heard that. The other program 
that does well with equations, but is costly, and has a learning 
curve is FrameMaker. Find somebody who owns Pro. There is 
no software to install and the commenting is quite intuitive. 
Maybe you could write sections in Word if they won't do

Pro edits, which also does conversion between Word and .pdf.
Maybe there is a Pro educational version without limitations.

Currently I think tex4ht will convert latex to html. Then the
html can be imported by Word. This doesn't work great.

Regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Desktop Media wrote:

 Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
 Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed
 as well. I have not found latex2writer.

It is called oolatex and part of tex4ht:
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ (but very difficult to
install, I failed last time I tried).


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 10:16:20PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Desktop Media wrote:
  Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
  imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
  writer2lyx could make sense...
 
 This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
 will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
 on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
 capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

'proper' is a bit strong. Call it 'better than reLyX's pattern
matching'...

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Desktop Media wrote:

 Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
 Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed
 as well. I have not found latex2writer.

It is called oolatex and part of tex4ht:
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ (but very difficult to
install, I failed last time I tried).


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 10:16:20PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Desktop Media wrote:
  Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
  imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
  writer2lyx could make sense...
 
 This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
 will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
 on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
 capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

'proper' is a bit strong. Call it 'better than reLyX's pattern
matching'...

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Desktop Media wrote:

> Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
> Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed
> as well. I have not found latex2writer.

It is called oolatex and part of tex4ht:
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ (but very difficult to
install, I failed last time I tried).


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 10:16:20PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Desktop Media wrote:
> > Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
> > imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
> > writer2lyx could make sense...
> 
> This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
> will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
> on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
> capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

'proper' is a bit strong. Call it 'better than reLyX's pattern
matching'...

Andre'

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Michel Gosse]

Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
to tex :
http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/
Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Regards

Le Dimanche 6 Juin 2004 06:04, Pol a écrit :
 Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
 is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
 (even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
 if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice).

 I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters

openoffice -- lyx
kword  -- lyx

 (i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
 Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx.

 --
 Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 6. Juni 2004 08:49 schrieb Michel Gosse:
 Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert 
openoffice 
 to tex :
 http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/

This is an excellent tool. It creates clean .tex files if the .sxw file is 
well structured, but if you did not use logical markup (e.g. headline) but 
visual markup (e.g. bold, 24 pt), then the .tex file will be horrible.

 Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Probably, but it is not necessary. If you add writer2latex as a .sxw - .tex 
converter in your preferences, .sxw files will become available for import, 
because lyx can import .tex files.


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Desktop Media]

From Michel Gosse, Jun 06:
 Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
 to tex :
 http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/


Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed as well. 
I have not found latex2writer. 

Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always imported flawlessly 
by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and writer2lyx could make sense...

--
Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Angus Leeming]

Desktop Media wrote:
 Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
 imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
 writer2lyx could make sense...

This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

-- 
Angus

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Michel Gosse]

Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
to tex :
http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/
Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Regards

Le Dimanche 6 Juin 2004 06:04, Pol a écrit :
 Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
 is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
 (even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
 if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice).

 I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters

openoffice -- lyx
kword  -- lyx

 (i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
 Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx.

 --
 Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 6. Juni 2004 08:49 schrieb Michel Gosse:
 Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert 
openoffice 
 to tex :
 http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/

This is an excellent tool. It creates clean .tex files if the .sxw file is 
well structured, but if you did not use logical markup (e.g. headline) but 
visual markup (e.g. bold, 24 pt), then the .tex file will be horrible.

 Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Probably, but it is not necessary. If you add writer2latex as a .sxw - .tex 
converter in your preferences, .sxw files will become available for import, 
because lyx can import .tex files.


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Desktop Media]

From Michel Gosse, Jun 06:
 Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
 to tex :
 http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/


Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed as well. 
I have not found latex2writer. 

Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always imported flawlessly 
by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and writer2lyx could make sense...

--
Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Angus Leeming]

Desktop Media wrote:
 Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
 imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
 writer2lyx could make sense...

This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

-- 
Angus

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Michel Gosse]

Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
to tex :
http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/
Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Regards

Le Dimanche 6 Juin 2004 06:04, Pol a écrit :
> Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
> is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
> (even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
> if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice).
>
> I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters
>
>openoffice <--> lyx
>kword  <--> lyx
>
> (i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
> Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx.
>
> --
> Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 6. Juni 2004 08:49 schrieb Michel Gosse:
> Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert 
openoffice 
> to tex :
> http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/

This is an excellent tool. It creates clean .tex files if the .sxw file is 
well structured, but if you did not use logical markup (e.g. headline) but 
visual markup (e.g. bold, 24 pt), then the .tex file will be horrible.

> Perhaps this tool can be transformed for producing lyx file ?

Probably, but it is not necessary. If you add writer2latex as a .sxw -> .tex 
converter in your preferences, .sxw files will become available for import, 
because lyx can import .tex files.


Georg

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Desktop Media]

>From Michel Gosse, Jun 06:
 >Useful tool surely. However, you can find writer2latex that convert openoffice 
 >to tex :
 >http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/


Thank you for your suggestion, i will give it a try.
Anyway, for a collaborative paper work, the reverse filter would be needed as well. 
I have not found latex2writer. 

Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always imported flawlessly 
by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and writer2lyx could make sense...

--
Pol

Re: lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Angus Leeming]

Desktop Media wrote:
> Moreover, i had noticed before that latex files are not always
> imported flawlessly by lyx. So, specific filters lyx2writer and
> writer2lyx could make sense...

This last point will be much less serious when lyx 1.4 is released. It
will ship with 'tex2lyx', a replacement for 'reLyX'. tex2lyx is built
on top of a proper latex parser and is *much* more powerful and
capable than reLyX could ever hope to be.

-- 
Angus

lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Pol]

Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
(even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice). 

I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters

   openoffice -- lyx
   kword  -- lyx 

(i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx. 

--
Pol

lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Pol]

Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
(even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice). 

I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters

   openoffice -- lyx
   kword  -- lyx 

(i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx. 

--
Pol

lyx compatibility with other w-processors

[Pol]

Working at a document with people using word processors other than lyx
is currently impossible, since using latex as common format does not work
(even importing latex files into lyx is not easy; that is explecially true
if those latex files have been produced by kword or opensoffice). 

I am wondering if it would be worth considering to develop the filters

   openoffice <--> lyx
   kword  <--> lyx 

(i have no idea of the difficulties of such work)
Such convenient utilities would encourage people to use lyx. 

--
Pol

lyx compatibility

[Yvonne Becherini]

Hallo,
I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to 
the new version of the program.
Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new 
version of lyx?
Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't 
have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text 
and pieces of math equations disappeared.

Thanks,
Yvonne

Re: lyx compatibility

[Ralph Boland]

Yvonne Becherini wrote:

 Hallo,
 I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to
 the new version of the program.
 Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new
 version of lyx?
 Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't
 have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text
 and pieces of math equations disappeared.

 Thanks,
 Yvonne

Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your lyx document
for both versions of  lyx and then do a diff on the latex files.
Even though the lyx files may be different the latex files should not be.
You should then be able to track down any difficulties and fix them
in the new document.

Note I only think this will work;  I haven't actually tried it.

Also, there could be some minor changes in the preamble
including a comment on the version of lyx being used.

Hope this helps.

Ralph Boland

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Ralph == Ralph Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ralph Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your
Ralph lyx document for both versions of lyx and then do a diff on the
Ralph latex files. Even though the lyx files may be different the
Ralph latex files should not be. 

No the latex outputs _will_ be different, although this is usually not
a problem.

JMarc

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yvonne == Yvonne Becherini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yvonne Hallo, I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted
Yvonne now to upgrade to the new version of the program. Can you
Yvonne ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the
Yvonne new version of lyx? 

Nobody will ever ensure this...

Anyway, if you tel us what kind of consrtucts you use (TeX code,
minipages, maths...), we will be able to see what the risk is.
But if your document is not full of tricks, it should work perfectly. 

If you really want to be safe, you should better wait for 1.2.1.

JMarc

lyx compatibility

[Yvonne Becherini]

Hallo,
I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to 
the new version of the program.
Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new 
version of lyx?
Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't 
have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text 
and pieces of math equations disappeared.

Thanks,
Yvonne

Re: lyx compatibility

[Ralph Boland]

Yvonne Becherini wrote:

 Hallo,
 I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to
 the new version of the program.
 Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new
 version of lyx?
 Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't
 have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text
 and pieces of math equations disappeared.

 Thanks,
 Yvonne

Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your lyx document
for both versions of  lyx and then do a diff on the latex files.
Even though the lyx files may be different the latex files should not be.
You should then be able to track down any difficulties and fix them
in the new document.

Note I only think this will work;  I haven't actually tried it.

Also, there could be some minor changes in the preamble
including a comment on the version of lyx being used.

Hope this helps.

Ralph Boland

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Ralph == Ralph Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ralph Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your
Ralph lyx document for both versions of lyx and then do a diff on the
Ralph latex files. Even though the lyx files may be different the
Ralph latex files should not be. 

No the latex outputs _will_ be different, although this is usually not
a problem.

JMarc

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Yvonne == Yvonne Becherini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yvonne Hallo, I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted
Yvonne now to upgrade to the new version of the program. Can you
Yvonne ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the
Yvonne new version of lyx? 

Nobody will ever ensure this...

Anyway, if you tel us what kind of consrtucts you use (TeX code,
minipages, maths...), we will be able to see what the risk is.
But if your document is not full of tricks, it should work perfectly. 

If you really want to be safe, you should better wait for 1.2.1.

JMarc

lyx compatibility

[Yvonne Becherini]

Hallo,
I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to 
the new version of the program.
Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new 
version of lyx?
Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't 
have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text 
and pieces of math equations disappeared.

Thanks,
Yvonne

Re: lyx compatibility

[Ralph Boland]

Yvonne Becherini wrote:

> Hallo,
> I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted now to upgrade to
> the new version of the program.
> Can you ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the new
> version of lyx?
> Many times, when I did the upgrade, I got a lot of errors which I didn't
> have w1ith the old version, and (strange thing) I got some pieces of text
> and pieces of math equations disappeared.
>
> Thanks,
> Yvonne

Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your lyx document
for both versions of  lyx and then do a diff on the latex files.
Even though the lyx files may be different the latex files should not be.
You should then be able to track down any difficulties and fix them
in the new document.

Note I only think this will work;  I haven't actually tried it.

Also, there could be some minor changes in the preamble
including a comment on the version of lyx being used.

Hope this helps.

Ralph Boland

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Ralph" == Ralph Boland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ralph> Why don't you generate the latex files corresponding to your
Ralph> lyx document for both versions of lyx and then do a diff on the
Ralph> latex files. Even though the lyx files may be different the
Ralph> latex files should not be. 

No the latex outputs _will_ be different, although this is usually not
a problem.

JMarc

Re: lyx compatibility

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Yvonne" == Yvonne Becherini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Yvonne> Hallo, I have written a very large book with lyx and wanted
Yvonne> now to upgrade to the new version of the program. Can you
Yvonne> ensure me that my document will not have any problem with the
Yvonne> new version of lyx? 

Nobody will ever ensure this...

Anyway, if you tel us what kind of consrtucts you use (TeX code,
minipages, maths...), we will be able to see what the risk is.
But if your document is not full of tricks, it should work perfectly. 

If you really want to be safe, you should better wait for 1.2.1.

JMarc