Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 07/08/2018 09:20 PM, David Pesetsky wrote:
> Thanks — reported.

I've got a patch there now that should fix this. Probably not until
2.3.2, though we'll see.

Riki


>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck > > wrote:
>>
>> On 07/08/2018 03:42 PM, Joel Kulesza wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 10:49, David Pesetsky >> > wrote:
>>>
 And an update:  I've discovered the problem previously reported
 here (missed this for some reason when searching earlier):

 https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/311041/subscript-and-superscript-in-lyx-leave-large-gaps-in-onscreen-editor

 -- with a reference to this bug
 report: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10177

 Is there an approved way to add my own "please fix this" to that
 bug report from two years ago?
>>>
>>> I’m not sure of it’s acceptability, but if I find an unresolved bug
>>> that I’m also afflicted by, I comment with the specifics (LyX
>>> version, OS, etc.) to (a) provide additional information about
>>> extent of effect, (b) indicate interest, and (c) get CC’d on any
>>> replies so I can follow and/or help debug as the issue is addressed
>>> by the dev team.
>>
>> More info about such bugs is always welcome. And if more people seem
>> to be affected, then that does tend to bring attention to the issue.
>>
>> Riki
>>
>
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Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[David Pesetsky]

Thanks — reported.


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck  wrote:
> 
> On 07/08/2018 03:42 PM, Joel Kulesza wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 10:49, David Pesetsky > > wrote:
>> 
>>> And an update:  I've discovered the problem previously reported here 
>>> (missed this for some reason when searching earlier):
>>> 
>>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/311041/subscript-and-superscript-in-lyx-leave-large-gaps-in-onscreen-editor
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- with a reference to this bug report: 
>>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10177 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is there an approved way to add my own "please fix this" to that bug report 
>>> from two years ago?
>> 
>> I’m not sure of it’s acceptability, but if I find an unresolved bug that I’m 
>> also afflicted by, I comment with the specifics (LyX version, OS, etc.) to 
>> (a) provide additional information about extent of effect, (b) indicate 
>> interest, and (c) get CC’d on any replies so I can follow and/or help debug 
>> as the issue is addressed by the dev team. 
> 
> More info about such bugs is always welcome. And if more people seem to be 
> affected, then that does tend to bring attention to the issue.
> 
> Riki
> 

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Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 07/08/2018 03:42 PM, Joel Kulesza wrote:
>
> On Jul 8, 2018, at 10:49, David Pesetsky  > wrote:
>
>> And an update:  I've discovered the problem previously reported here
>> (missed this for some reason when searching earlier):
>>
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/311041/subscript-and-superscript-in-lyx-leave-large-gaps-in-onscreen-editor
>>
>> -- with a reference to this bug
>> report: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10177
>>
>> Is there an approved way to add my own "please fix this" to that bug
>> report from two years ago?
>
> I’m not sure of it’s acceptability, but if I find an unresolved bug
> that I’m also afflicted by, I comment with the specifics (LyX version,
> OS, etc.) to (a) provide additional information about extent of
> effect, (b) indicate interest, and (c) get CC’d on any replies so I
> can follow and/or help debug as the issue is addressed by the dev team.

More info about such bugs is always welcome. And if more people seem to
be affected, then that does tend to bring attention to the issue.

Riki

Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[Joel Kulesza]

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 10:49, David Pesetsky  wrote:
> 
> And an update:  I've discovered the problem previously reported here (missed 
> this for some reason when searching earlier):
> 
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/311041/subscript-and-superscript-in-lyx-leave-large-gaps-in-onscreen-editor
> 
> -- with a reference to this bug report: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10177
> 
> Is there an approved way to add my own "please fix this" to that bug report 
> from two years ago?

I’m not sure of it’s acceptability, but if I find an unresolved bug that I’m 
also afflicted by, I comment with the specifics (LyX version, OS, etc.) to (a) 
provide additional information about extent of effect, (b) indicate interest, 
and (c) get CC’d on any replies so I can follow and/or help debug as the issue 
is addressed by the dev team. 

As an aside, I think most developers monitor this list so the interest is 
likely already noted. 

- Joel

Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[Maria Gouskova]

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

> When I add text as a subscript or superscript using
> Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen
> horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only,
> as the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far
> as the onscreen cursor is concerned).  I posted a screenshot here:
> https://imgur.com/a/FSnSRsP
>
> I don't see anything about this in the bug tracker, so is it something I
> should file as a bug?  Or something I did, without knowing it ...?
>
> -David
>
>
Maybe a Mac-specific GUI problem only? I see a little bit of a gap before
the sub/superscripts, but nothing as wide as that:

https://imgur.com/a/tV1BH93

(Linux Mint, LyX 2.3.0).

Maria


>
>
>

Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[David Pesetsky]

And an update:  I've discovered the problem previously reported here (missed 
this for some reason when searching earlier):

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/311041/subscript-and-superscript-in-lyx-leave-large-gaps-in-onscreen-editor
 


-- with a reference to this bug report: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10177 


Is there an approved way to add my own "please fix this" to that bug report 
from two years ago?

-David

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 12:42 PM, David Pesetsky  wrote:
> 
> OK, thank you.  I've pinpointed the issue now.
> 
> Early in using Lyx a year or so ago, I was othered by the absence of 
> on-screen margins, the text running right up to the edge of the window in the 
> default configuration.  Somewhere online, I found the advice to modify "Local 
> Layout" under Document>Settings to take care of this.  Following what I had 
> read, I added to Local Layout the following:
> 
> Format 60
> RightMargin 10pt
> LeftMargin 10pt
> 
> — which did the trick, as far as I was concerned.
> 
> What I have now learned is that my LeftMargin setting is responsible for what 
> I now assume is a bug in the display of superscripts and subscripts.  When I 
> remove this line, the problem disappears (along with my onscreen left 
> margin).  When I put it back, the problem reappears.  The other two commands 
> that I added to Local Layout have no effect on this problem.
> 
> Unless this is a feature rather than a bug, for some reason, I assume this is 
> something to report, but perhaps you will know better than me how to report 
> it informatively?
> 
> For now, I will live with my onscreen margins and the (presumed) bug, unless 
> you have a better suggestion.  Thank you again.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Joel Kulesza > > wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:52 AM, David Pesetsky > > wrote:
>> -
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Joel Kulesza >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:29 AM, David Pesetsky >> > wrote:
>>> When I add text as a subscript or superscript using 
>>> Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen 
>>> horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only, 
>>> as the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far 
>>> as the onscreen cursor is concerned).  I don't see anything about this in 
>>> the bug tracker, so is it something I should file as a bug?  Or something I 
>>> did, without knowing it ...?
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>>> I don't see similar behavior with LyX 2.3.0 on OS X 10.13.5 (see attached 
>>> for what I see). 
>>> 
>>> It looks like your LyX background color is different from the default 
>>> (white rather than the default beige).  Perhaps another customization is 
>>> driving this behavior?
>> 
>> Right, that's what I was wondering, but I can't think of what.  I changed 
>> some colors a while ago, and picked an onscreen font — but I've tried 
>> tinkering with different onscreen fonts, with no difference in the 
>> superscript/subscript problem.
>> 
>> What I would do to diagnose this:
>> 
>> Rename ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 to  ~/Library/Application 
>> Support/LyX-2.3.bak
>> 
>> Relaunch LyX 2.3.0.  It will think it's a new installation with no 
>> configuration files and will generate them (taking longer than usual to 
>> start while doing so).  Run a test to see if the sub/superscripts are 
>> "normal."  If so, it is something in the non-default settings.  From there, 
>> you can compare the contents of the new (clean) configuration files in that 
>> directory to the backup you made.
>> 
>> To recover your old settings, for better or worse, remove the "new" 
>> ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 directory and copy over the "old", 
>> backed-up, one from ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3.bak.
>> 
>> - Joel
>>  
>> 
> 
> -- 
> David Pesetsky[pese...@mit.edu ]
> Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
> 32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> 77 Massachusetts Avenue
> Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
> (617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax 
> http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html 
> 

-- 
David Pesetsky  [pese...@mit.edu]
Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
(617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax 
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html



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Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[David Pesetsky]

OK, thank you.  I've pinpointed the issue now.

Early in using Lyx a year or so ago, I was othered by the absence of on-screen 
margins, the text running right up to the edge of the window in the default 
configuration.  Somewhere online, I found the advice to modify "Local Layout" 
under Document>Settings to take care of this.  Following what I had read, I 
added to Local Layout the following:

Format 60
RightMargin 10pt
LeftMargin 10pt

— which did the trick, as far as I was concerned.

What I have now learned is that my LeftMargin setting is responsible for what I 
now assume is a bug in the display of superscripts and subscripts.  When I 
remove this line, the problem disappears (along with my onscreen left margin).  
When I put it back, the problem reappears.  The other two commands that I added 
to Local Layout have no effect on this problem.

Unless this is a feature rather than a bug, for some reason, I assume this is 
something to report, but perhaps you will know better than me how to report it 
informatively?

For now, I will live with my onscreen margins and the (presumed) bug, unless 
you have a better suggestion.  Thank you again.

-David


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:52 AM, David Pesetsky  > wrote:
> -
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Joel Kulesza > > wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:29 AM, David Pesetsky > > wrote:
>> When I add text as a subscript or superscript using 
>> Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen 
>> horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only, as 
>> the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far as 
>> the onscreen cursor is concerned).  I don't see anything about this in the 
>> bug tracker, so is it something I should file as a bug?  Or something I did, 
>> without knowing it ...?
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> I don't see similar behavior with LyX 2.3.0 on OS X 10.13.5 (see attached 
>> for what I see). 
>> 
>> It looks like your LyX background color is different from the default (white 
>> rather than the default beige).  Perhaps another customization is driving 
>> this behavior?
> 
> Right, that's what I was wondering, but I can't think of what.  I changed 
> some colors a while ago, and picked an onscreen font — but I've tried 
> tinkering with different onscreen fonts, with no difference in the 
> superscript/subscript problem.
> 
> What I would do to diagnose this:
> 
> Rename ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 to  ~/Library/Application 
> Support/LyX-2.3.bak
> 
> Relaunch LyX 2.3.0.  It will think it's a new installation with no 
> configuration files and will generate them (taking longer than usual to start 
> while doing so).  Run a test to see if the sub/superscripts are "normal."  If 
> so, it is something in the non-default settings.  From there, you can compare 
> the contents of the new (clean) configuration files in that directory to the 
> backup you made.
> 
> To recover your old settings, for better or worse, remove the "new" 
> ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 directory and copy over the "old", 
> backed-up, one from ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3.bak.
> 
> - Joel
>  
> 

-- 
David Pesetsky  [pese...@mit.edu]
Department of Linguistics and Philosophy
32-D818 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139 USA
(617) 253-0957 office   (617) 253-5017 fax 
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html



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Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[Joel Kulesza]

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:52 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:

> -
>
> On Jul 8, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:29 AM, David Pesetsky  wrote:
>
>> When I add text as a subscript or superscript using
>> Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen
>> horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only,
>> as the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far
>> as the onscreen cursor is concerned).  I don't see anything about this in
>> the bug tracker, so is it something I should file as a bug?  Or something I
>> did, without knowing it ...?
>>
>> -David
>>
>
> I don't see similar behavior with LyX 2.3.0 on OS X 10.13.5 (see attached
> for what I see).
>
> It looks like your LyX background color is different from the default
> (white rather than the default beige).  Perhaps another customization is
> driving this behavior?
>
>
> Right, that's what I was wondering, but I can't think of what.  I changed
> some colors a while ago, and picked an onscreen font — but I've tried
> tinkering with different onscreen fonts, with no difference in the
> superscript/subscript problem.
>

What I would do to diagnose this:

Rename ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3 to  ~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.3.bak

Relaunch LyX 2.3.0.  It will think it's a new installation with no
configuration files and will generate them (taking longer than usual to
start while doing so).  Run a test to see if the sub/superscripts are
"normal."  If so, it is something in the non-default settings.  From there,
you can compare the contents of the new (clean) configuration files in that
directory to the backup you made.

To recover your old settings, for better or worse, remove the "new"
~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.3 directory and copy over the "old", backed-up, one from
~/Library/Application
Support/LyX-2.3.bak.

- Joel

Re: subscripts and superscripts display problem

[David Pesetsky]

-

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Joel Kulesza  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:29 AM, David Pesetsky  > wrote:
> When I add text as a subscript or superscript using 
> Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen 
> horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only, as 
> the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far as 
> the onscreen cursor is concerned).  I don't see anything about this in the 
> bug tracker, so is it something I should file as a bug?  Or something I did, 
> without knowing it ...?
> 
> -David
> 
> I don't see similar behavior with LyX 2.3.0 on OS X 10.13.5 (see attached for 
> what I see). 
> 
> It looks like your LyX background color is different from the default (white 
> rather than the default beige).  Perhaps another customization is driving 
> this behavior?

Right, that's what I was wondering, but I can't think of what.  I changed some 
colors a while ago, and picked an onscreen font — but I've tried tinkering with 
different onscreen fonts, with no difference in the superscript/subscript 
problem.


> 
> - Joel
> 
> 




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subscripts and superscripts display problem

[David Pesetsky]

When I add text as a subscript or superscript using 
Insert>Formatting>{Sub,Super}script,  Lyx 2.3.0 adds a large onscreen 
horizontal gap before the text.  This appears to be WYSIWYG problem only, as 
the Latex output does not have this problem (and there is no gap, as far as the 
onscreen cursor is concerned).  I posted a screenshot here: 
https://imgur.com/a/FSnSRsP 

I don't see anything about this in the bug tracker, so is it something I should 
file as a bug?  Or something I did, without knowing it ...?

-David


 

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