Re: Latex error

2010-11-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote:
> LyX-relevant differences between polyglossia and babel:

Thanks, I put your notes here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Polyglossia

> The "latex options" should be ignored (or replaced by "polyglossia
> options")

are there any "polyglossia options"?

> For use with polyglossia, we could consider either
> 
>  * a modified copy of "languages"
> 
>  * a second file only containing the languages with changes overwriting
>the "languages" settings.
> 
>(shorter, but how can we disable languages then?)
> 
> 
> I volunteer to prepare a "languages-polyglossia" (or similar called) file.

I think the former is the way to go: add another column to the existing 
languages file with the polyglossia terms.

> Günter

Jürgen


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Mukhtar Ullah
Kenward Vaughan  earthlink.net> writes:

> 
> On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 15:31 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> ...
> > Removing the XeTeX parts from the document makes it all go away.  :(
> > 
> > Does anyone have thoughts about this problem?  One other area I perhaps
> > should include is the preamble.  Is one of the packages incompatible
> > with XeTeX?
> > 
> > \usepackage{accents}
> > \usepackage{mdwlist}
> > \usepackage{layout}
> > \usepackage{multicol}
> ...
> 
> It looks like removal of the accents package freed up XeTeX,  I'm not
> certain why I have it in their in the 1st place, actually.  Processing
> completes now, and I get a pdf file.
> 
> But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
> been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((
> 
> Is this normal???
> 
> Kenward

Kenward,
XeTeX requires, like PdfTeX, figures in these formats: pdf,jpeg,png. Since you
are using LyX, this conversion from eps to pdf is done for you. I suppose the
conversion is not done well enough. I would suggest you convert them yourself to
keep the vector essence.

Mukhtar




Re: Latex error

2010-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 12 nov. 10 à 10:29, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
I volunteer to prepare a "languages-polyglossia" (or similar  
called) file.


I think the former is the way to go: add another column to the  
existing

languages file with the polyglossia terms.


And turn this language file into a format like layout files, so that  
humans can read it...


JMarc

Re: Latex error

2010-11-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> And turn this language file into a format like layout files, so that  
> humans can read it...

Good idea ...

Jürgen


Re: Latex error

2010-11-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2010-11-12, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> And turn this language file into a format like layout files, so that  
>> humans can read it...

> Good idea ...

Maybe YAML format?

OTOH, the format is the same as used in unicodedata, so it could be
said to be a LyX config format.


If changing is really planned (before 2.0?), I'd wait with adding
polyglossia-names until it's done and I know how the file should look
like.


Günter



Re: marking text

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Fareed Qureshi wrote:
> > Aaaarg, the gnome clipboard manager does that. Thanks! Around the same time 
> > I started to work with lyx I also switched from "klipper" to "glipper" and 
> > didn't notice it pays bad games with me. Didn't find an option to disable 
> > that feature yet, so switched back to klipper for now, which does't cause 
> > this trouble.
> 
> I've been experiencing a similar problem on Ubuntu 10.10 and Lyx 1.6.7
> (marking text with the mouse works normally, but text selections made
> via keyboard immediately deselect). It hadn't even occurred to me that
> this could be caused by a clipboard manager. I use the parcellite
> clipboard manager under Gnome and, sure enough, quitting parcellite
> fixes the problem!

you could drop a message to the devs of clipboard manager, maybe it will
work in next versions then.

pavel


Re: Latex error

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Guenter Milde wrote:
> If changing is really planned (before 2.0?)

looking at the list nowadays it seems that even basics of xetex support awake
avalanche, so some xetex improvements have my ok for 2.0 if they come timely.
its basically whether Juergen find some time to look at.

pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Mukhtar Ullah wrote:
> > But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
> > been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((

this would be serious issue, please fill bug in our tracker.
its maybe just about selecting proper convertor of eps->pdf.
pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:50 +, Mukhtar Ullah wrote:
> Kenward Vaughan  earthlink.net> writes:
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 15:31 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
...
> > But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
> > been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((
> > 
> > Is this normal???
> > 
> > Kenward
> 
> Kenward,
> XeTeX requires, like PdfTeX, figures in these formats: pdf,jpeg,png. Since you
> are using LyX, this conversion from eps to pdf is done for you. I suppose the
> conversion is not done well enough. I would suggest you convert them yourself 
> to
> keep the vector essence.
> 
> Mukhtar


Ah.  OK.  Knowing that, does anyone have a suggestion for the
transformation?  I thought pdf could be a "wrapper" about an eps
figure... If so, which utility is a good one? 

I'm sorry for my ignorance about this, but it has never been in the
forefront of concern since I hadn't hit such an issue before.

Thanks for the help, both to you and Paval! 


Kenward
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Man grows old because he ceases to play."

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting '...Oh,
WOW !! ...what a ride...' "



Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> Ah.  OK.  Knowing that, does anyone have a suggestion for the
> transformation?  I thought pdf could be a "wrapper" about an eps
> figure... If so, which utility is a good one? 

if you write "epstopdf" on your console what happens?

pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Richard Heck

On 11/12/2010 10:32 AM, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:50 +, Mukhtar Ullah wrote:

Kenward Vaughan  earthlink.net>  writes:


On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 15:31 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

...

But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((

Is this normal???

Kenward

Kenward,
XeTeX requires, like PdfTeX, figures in these formats: pdf,jpeg,png. Since you
are using LyX, this conversion from eps to pdf is done for you. I suppose the
conversion is not done well enough. I would suggest you convert them yourself to
keep the vector essence.

Mukhtar


Ah.  OK.  Knowing that, does anyone have a suggestion for the
transformation?  I thought pdf could be a "wrapper" about an eps
figure... If so, which utility is a good one?


LyX itself relies upon ImageMagick's convert utility, which is as simple as:
convert file.eps file.png
I'm not sure how you might automate this in LyX. There must be some way 
to force conversion to png instead of pdf.


rh



Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:43 +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> > Ah.  OK.  Knowing that, does anyone have a suggestion for the
> > transformation?  I thought pdf could be a "wrapper" about an eps
> > figure... If so, which utility is a good one? 
> 
> if you write "epstopdf" on your console what happens?
> 
> pavel

I have it installed.  I also tried including it as a package, but images
still became rasterized.  


Kenward
-- 
If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for
reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.   Albert Einstein



Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 12 November 2010 08:41:39 Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Mukhtar Ullah wrote:
> > > But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
> > > been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((
> 
> this would be serious issue, please fill bug in our tracker.
> its maybe just about selecting proper convertor of eps->pdf.
> pavel

I've noticed that for years and years and years. Usually .eps figures get 
rasterized -- I think all the way back from 1.3.x or before. I thought that 
was just the way LyX worked.

That's why I use .pdf figures in my LyX documents -- that usually turns out 
very well. If you guys can figure out a way so that LyX treats .eps as a 
vector, that will be wonderful.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



New Rupee symbol

2010-11-12 Thread Frederick Noronha
Could someone kindly help me on how to insert the new Rupee symbol in
a Lyx document? Thanks in advance, FN

PS: It is not ₨ but
http://www.labnol.org/india/indian-rupee-added-to-unicode/17919/

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Steve Litt wrote:
> I've noticed that for years and years and years. Usually .eps figures get 
> rasterized -- I think all the way back from 1.3.x or before. I thought that 
> was just the way LyX worked.

not at all, i'm using .eps all the time without such problems.
you must miss some convertor or have old version or something like that.

pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Julien Rioux

On 12/11/2010 12:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Friday 12 November 2010 08:41:39 Pavel Sanda wrote:

Mukhtar Ullah wrote:

But now something else was noticed... all my beautiful eps figures have
been rasterized!  Augh!  They are hideous in output.  :(((


this would be serious issue, please fill bug in our tracker.
its maybe just about selecting proper convertor of eps->pdf.
pavel


I've noticed that for years and years and years. Usually .eps figures get
rasterized -- I think all the way back from 1.3.x or before. I thought that
was just the way LyX worked.

That's why I use .pdf figures in my LyX documents -- that usually turns out
very well. If you guys can figure out a way so that LyX treats .eps as a
vector, that will be wonderful.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt




Usually I use PDF (ps2pdf) as output and everything stays vectorized. 
But I too noticed the rasterizing recently, when using PDF (pdflatex). I 
think imagemagick's convert does rasterize. This was on windows, I 
haven't checked on linux.


--
Julien



poetry

2010-11-12 Thread Julien Rioux
Does anybody have a good layout or template for writing poetry in LyX 
(LaTeX)?


--
Julien



Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julien Rioux wrote:
> Usually I use PDF (ps2pdf) as output and everything stays vectorized. But I 
> too noticed the rasterizing recently, when using PDF (pdflatex). I think 
> imagemagick's convert does rasterize. This was on windows, I haven't 
> checked on linux.

please people can you check that you have installed eps2pdf?
it runs here when doing pdflatex output and i guess that rasterizing
of imagemagick happens only in case that eps2pdf is not found...

also, do we have eps2pdf by default on windows install (can't test here)?

pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Julien Rioux wrote:
> > Usually I use PDF (ps2pdf) as output and everything stays vectorized. But I 
> > too noticed the rasterizing recently, when using PDF (pdflatex). I think 
> > imagemagick's convert does rasterize. This was on windows, I haven't 
> > checked on linux.
> 
> please people can you check that you have installed eps2pdf?

errrm "epstopdf" (part of texlive here)

> it runs here when doing pdflatex output and i guess that rasterizing
> of imagemagick happens only in case that eps2pdf is not found...
> 
> also, do we have eps2pdf by default on windows install (can't test here)?
> 
> pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Julien Rioux

On 12/11/2010 2:52 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

please people can you check that you have installed eps2pdf?

errrm "epstopdf" (part of texlive here)



$ which eps2pdf
which: no eps2pdf in
$ which epstopdf
/cygdrive/c/miktex/miktex28/miktex/bin/epstopdf

I reconfigured LyX and it is now using epstopdf for the convertion. Good 
to know. Thanks


--
Julien



Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:43 +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> > > Ah.  OK.  Knowing that, does anyone have a suggestion for the
> > > transformation?  I thought pdf could be a "wrapper" about an eps
> > > figure... If so, which utility is a good one? 
> > 
> > if you write "epstopdf" on your console what happens?
> > 
> > pavel
> 
> I have it installed.  I also tried including it as a package, but images
> still became rasterized.  

i just installed xetex here to look at it, but everything work just fine.
(my debug messages still contain
Converter.cpp(425): Calling epstopdf 
--outfile="0_trash_centered_m_195_profile.pdf" 
"0_trash_centered_m_195_profile.eps"
)

there must be some catch in your configuration. have run reconfigure?
what kind of distribution you are running?

pavel


Re: Getting XeTeX/LyX 2.0 to work with my docs...

2010-11-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> I have it installed.  I also tried including it as a package, but images
> still became rasterized.  

also remove converter cache, just in a case...
pavel