Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.03.2011 um 00:21 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse:

 Hi,
 
 is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
 several files?

Unfortunately not.

 It's rather tedious having to do this manually if you have to make a
 change to several files...

Yes, but there is no consensus currently how to proceed.

On the one hand there is the idea of the LyX-document bundle or package.
On the other hand it would make sense to automate version control for 
master-child documents and included stuff independent of document bundling.

Stephan


Re: rcs-multi and LyX 2.0 RC1

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 On 3/29/11 8:27 AM, Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2011-03-28, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:

...

 However, what I really need to do, is to put the

 \usepackage{rcs-multi}
 \usepackage[draft]{pdfdraftcopy}
 \draftfontsize{60}
 \draftcolor{gray20}

 in each preamble and then

 \rcsid{$Id$}
 \draftstring{v\rcsfilerev, \rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}

 in ERT into each file.

 because that way I can pdflatex the whole master document, but also each
 individual one on its own :-)-O

Fine.

 This is very cool, but I think one should look at a Request for Feature,
 because this situation is surely not unique :-)-O

You could consider writing a LyX module that provides an inset
(instead of the ERT) and puts the required code in the preamble if the
inset is used. (See HelpCustomization on hwo to do this.)

Günter



Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
 several files?

no.

however if you don't want to do it specifically for few files but for the whole
tree check out is possible via update local directory (see icon in VCS toolbar).

checkin counterpart is not there, but there is possibility to add keybinding
(or even manually add your own icon) for VC_COMMAND which will do something
like svn ci .

see additional features manual, version control section and also LFUNs manual
for VC_COMMAND details.

pavel


Re: Cursor Color LyX 2.0RC2

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Greg Kise wrote:
 Second, did we lose the ability to change the cursor color? I see that 
 cursor is absent from the color preferences. Any way to change the cursor 
 color like before?

i see it here. pavel


Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
The cursor option only appears if one unchecks Use system colours
checkbox, below the colours list.
(OSX French)

2011/3/30 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
  Hi,
 
  is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
  several files?

 no.

 however if you don't want to do it specifically for few files but for the
 whole
 tree check out is possible via update local directory (see icon in VCS
 toolbar).

 checkin counterpart is not there, but there is possibility to add
 keybinding
 (or even manually add your own icon) for VC_COMMAND which will do something
 like svn ci .

 see additional features manual, version control section and also LFUNs
 manual
 for VC_COMMAND details.

 pavel




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How do I avoid luatex defaults?

2011-03-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
I haven't used LyX for some time and when I did so today I found that it
was using luatex as the default for exporting pdf files. This produced
errors. I evntually found how to return to the previous choice
(pdflatex) but is there any way to configure LyX to use the previous
representation of choices fir File - Export? I couldn't find anything
in Preferences.

Anthony
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Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
a number with units in math mode.

In LaTeX, one would enter

$a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
with backslashes, thus:

$a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

This does not render correctly.

Is there any way around this?

I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
is possible in 1.6!

Thanks!

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http://andrewsteele.co.uk/


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

Have you tried to enter this in ERT (ctrl+l)?
Liviu


 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes, thus:

 $a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

 This does not render correctly.

 Is there any way around this?

 I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
 is possible in 1.6!

 Thanks!

 --
 Andrew Steele
 http://andrewsteele.co.uk/




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Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
equation editor!

Is there a better workaround? :)

On 30 March 2011 12:48, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Steele
 sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

 Have you tried to enter this in ERT (ctrl+l)?
 Liviu


 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes, thus:

 $a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

 This does not render correctly.

 Is there any way around this?

 I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
 is possible in 1.6!

 Thanks!

 --
 Andrew Steele
 http://andrewsteele.co.uk/




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Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
 within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
 equation editor!

 Is there a better workaround? :)

Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

Regards
Liviu


newfile1.lyx
Description: Binary data


newfile1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
It seems to work if you press ctrl-L or type a backslash before typing
the second set of curly braces.

Thanks for nudging me in the right direction!

On 30 March 2011 12:56, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
 sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
 within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
 equation editor!

 Is there a better workaround? :)

 Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
 that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
 shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
 your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

 Regards
 Liviu




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http://andrewsteele.co.uk/


Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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Hi

I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

Thanks,

Rainer
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Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
 wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
 projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
 amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
 highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

Yup, I hit this wall, too, once [1]. At that time there were two ideas
floating:
- allow external editing ERT insets with a random text editor
- integrate with QScintilla

Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

Cheers
Liviu

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg159200.html


Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 30/03/11 14:38, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
 wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
 projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
 amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
 highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

 Yup, I hit this wall, too, once [1]. At that time there were two ideas
 floating:
 - allow external editing ERT insets with a random text editor

This would be the best solution, as it would include all the flexibility
for the user to choose the editor of preference, and be usable fo all
kind of language types.

 - integrate with QScintilla

I would say second best, as it would only represent a subset of the
functionality of an external editor like for example emacs+ESS for R.

In general, I think the addition of an external editor feature for ert
boxes, would open many doors for LyX.

 
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

Is there already a feature request for this?

Rainer

 
 Cheers
 Liviu
 
 [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg159200.html


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Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

 Is there already a feature request for this?

No, not that I know of. I planned to do so, but it never got high
enough on my list. Cheers
Liviu

PS A perfect solution would be to provide both: QScintilla
integration and the possibility to edit externally :)


Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
become the default.

Pavel


Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 30/03/11 14:51, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

 Is there already a feature request for this?

 No, not that I know of. I planned to do so, but it never got high
 enough on my list. Cheers
 Liviu
 
 PS A perfect solution would be to provide both: QScintilla
 integration and the possibility to edit externally :)

I have added one:

#7404 (Enable editing of ERT boxes in external editor)

Could you please check if you have anything to add? Thanks.

Cheers,

Rainer
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Julio Rojas
Oxigen, although I still don't like the icons for PDF, DVI and PS
compilation in none of the three. Why the change? Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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Anything but Oxygen (I don't like the Oxygen set and it is two icons wider)
Cheers,

Rainer

On 30/03/11 15:26, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,
 
 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.
 
 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png
 
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen
 
 vote.
 
 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.
 
 Pavel


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Nice efforts! Thank you to the team.

I like the new themes but I am not completely convinced by the
informativeness of several icons in both of them.

I have tried both in RC2 and I observe that I have voted even before you
ask, by establishing the old theme :-)

As a consequence, I vote for the old set.

Murat

2011/3/30 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel




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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread David L. Johnson

On 03/30/11 09:26, Pavel Sanda wrote:


- old


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread curtis osterhoudt


In order of preference, I vote:

1. Oxygen
2. The old set
3. Libreoffice


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel




  

Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 - oxygen

.. although the icons for PDF, DVI and PS compilation are a bit confusing.

Liviu


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Julien Rioux

On 30/03/2011 8:02 AM, Andrew Steele wrote:

It seems to work if you press ctrl-L or type a backslash before typing
the second set of curly braces.

Thanks for nudging me in the right direction!

On 30 March 2011 12:56, Liviu Androniclandronim...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk  wrote:

Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
equation editor!

Is there a better workaround? :)


Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

Regards
Liviu







It should work in 1.6, too, doesn't it?

A neat approach is to define a fake math macro: Insert  Math  Macro, 
then put a % in a TeX Code right in front of it, on the same line.


Define your SI math macro to take two arguments and LyX will know what 
to do with it each time you type \SI in math mode.


--
Julien



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Julien Rioux

On 30/03/2011 9:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

- oxygen



--
Julien



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/30/2011 09:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

I don't care that much, as long as it isn't old. (I don't much use the 
toolbars, except for math.)


Presumably, packagers can change this fairly easily, yes?

That said, why are the Oxygen toolbars wider than the Libre ones?

Richard



Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread BOB Merhebi
Hello fellow Lyxers,

I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
similar to the user guide when printed ?
Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
(after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
why is  how to fix that ?

You help is appreciated

P.S.: I tried subscribing to: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org but I received a
failure reply. Might it be related to my subscription in the digest ?

thanks

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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 08:26:28 Pavel Sanda wrote:
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen

I don't have strong feelings about this.  I'm personally most comfortable with 
the old icons, but I can see  arguments for both the other sets.  

The Libreoffice icons are surely destined to become very well known as 
Libreoffice replaces Openoffice as the most widely used replacement for MS 
Office, and this will make them familiar to most new users of LyX.

Oxygen has the goal of “Make a break with the past and go in a new 
direction, leaving behind the cartoonish and childish look of previous 
graphics”, and certainly this is a worthy goal.

On balance, as I don't have strong feelings as a user, I should vote for the 
one which will be of most use to LyX as a community for the longest time.  
That must surely be Oxygen. See:
http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=2
-- 
Les Denham


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

libreoffice







Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Daniel CLEMENT
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 libreoffice

+1

BTW, does default mean that users will be able to change? If so, is it
new in 2.0?

In 1.6.9, I have not found any way to change them (am I wrong?)

Regards,
-- 
Daniel CLEMENT




Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/30/2011 11:49 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


libreoffice

+1

BTW, does default mean that users will be able to change? If so, is it
new in 2.0?

In 1.6.9, I have not found any way to change them (am I wrong?)


The ability to select icon sets is new to 2.0. New as of a week ago or so.

rh



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread James C. Sutherland
oxygen


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Kornel
Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
 - libreoffice


Kornel


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Jacob Bishop
I vote:

Oxygen

That said, I think the entire view/update toolbar could use some work,
particularly with Oxygen icon set. I like the other icons on oxygen better,
by enough I'll go with it. If I had my choice, I'd use oxygen for everything
but that view/update toolbar. It's probably not that easy though.

Jacob


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Påvel Nicklasson

LibreOffice

It is very nice to be able to change icons!

Påvel



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Johannes Wilm
Libreoffice

(will make it easier to get Libreoffice users to use it)


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Manolo Martínez
I think I prefer the old one
M

El mié, 30-03-2011 a las 15:26 +0200, Pavel Sanda escribió: 
 Dear LyX users and developers,
 
 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.
 
 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png
 
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen
 
 vote.
 
 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.
 
 Pavel




Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread jezZiFeR

Me too, the old one…
Oxygen would also work for me, libreoffice is not really intuitive for  
me.




Am 30.03.2011 um 19:43 schrieb Manolo Martínez:


I think I prefer the old one
M

El mié, 30-03-2011 a las 15:26 +0200, Pavel Sanda escribió:

Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner  
will

become the default.

Pavel







Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
become the default.

Pavel


Since LyX is a QT application, I vote for Oxygen.

Regards,
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Georg Baum
libreoffice



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread David Hewitt
Oxygen for sure!

- Dave


Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread stephen's mailinglist account
On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
machine - hence no current lyx access)

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
have a part too but..)
For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
article to book you are missing chapter 1.


 -Bob Merhebi


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-30, Pavel Sanda wrote:

old

(second choice) libreoffice

Günter



Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-30, Andrew Steele wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes

There are two ways around this problem:

a) Write a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}, highlight and press
   Ctrl-M.
   
b) Write \{ when you want a non-escaped {
   (LyX switches the input convention of literal and grouping bracket).
   
Günter   



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Cor Blom
oxygen



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Jens Nöckel
libreoffice

Although I'll miss the old noun icon: it's the last samurai of the 8-bit 
world. 
Jens



Directory path to the document cannot contain spaces

2011-03-30 Thread Joon Ro
Hi,Yesterday I updated to the RC2 version, and since then lyx has been giving me the no spaces in path error whenever I tried to export pdf.Until RC1, lyx compiled pdf with .lyx file in the same folder without any problem.Is this a known bug?Thank you,Joon

Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread BOB Merhebi
On 03/30/2011 10:12 PM, stephen's mailinglist account wrote:
 On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

 I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
 I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
 where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
 machine - hence no current lyx access)


Indeed I figured this out with the help of Richard (copied at the end) a
few hrs ago; thanks for the reply though :D
 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

 For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
 have a part too but..)
 For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
 article to book you are missing chapter 1.


Indeed as well, though the typesetting is not similar; it displays:

Part #:: for part (centered)
Chapter #:: for chapter

 -Bob Merhebi


On 03/30/2011 10:53 AM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when
 printed.

DocumentSettingsFontsDefault Size.

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be?

Yes. The classes are almost identical.

 Will it be similar to the user guide when printed?

No. I think the user guide uses article (koma-script). But this is
independent of font size (except that the koma classes may offer more
choices).

 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

This is because books have chapters.

 One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
 (after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
 why is  how to fix that ?

Because you are still in the Contents chapter. If you don't have
chapters, you do not want book.

Richard

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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Walter
libreoffice
 ... since it will grow and support the holy grail of open source user
experience consistency :)

- Walter


Re: Translations of Math environments in LyX output - last call for LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Please go through all entries in the attached file for your language and 
 ensure that they are correctly translated. Make any needed update in the .po 
 files as usual. The lib/layouttranslations file will be regenerated 
 automatically from the .po files before the final 2.0.0 release.

i made a simple document, which can help you to test the current state
of support for your favourite language. the file can be downloaded at:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/export/38172/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/examples/localization_test.lyx

it will be present in later lyx releases as well.

pavel


LyX2.0RC2--Error when including same file twice

2011-03-30 Thread Greg Kise

Hi LyXers,

When I try to include the same file twice, LyX gives this error:

Could not load included file '~/filename.lyx' Please, check whether  
it actually exists.


(Note: This error seems to have been introduced between RC1 and RC2  
(LyX 2.0). I did not have this error with any of the betas or RC1.)


To reproduce:

1. Layout ANY (I reproduced with both Article and Report KOMA Script)

2. Make new file and test file to be included.

3. Insert  File  Child test_include.lyx

4. Repeat step 3.

5. Compile PDF; get error.

6. Note that this error does not seem to stop the compile.

(Why would I want to include the same file twice? Because I had made a  
blank flyleaf for the front and back of the document---the blank page  
had a simple white graphic. However, I was able to reproduce the error  
using any file included twice.


Cheers!
~greg
(Mac 10.5, LyX 2.0RC2, TexLive2010)

Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 30.03.2011 um 00:21 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse:

 Hi,
 
 is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
 several files?

Unfortunately not.

 It's rather tedious having to do this manually if you have to make a
 change to several files...

Yes, but there is no consensus currently how to proceed.

On the one hand there is the idea of the LyX-document bundle or package.
On the other hand it would make sense to automate version control for 
master-child documents and included stuff independent of document bundling.

Stephan


Re: rcs-multi and LyX 2.0 RC1

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 On 3/29/11 8:27 AM, Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2011-03-28, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:

...

 However, what I really need to do, is to put the

 \usepackage{rcs-multi}
 \usepackage[draft]{pdfdraftcopy}
 \draftfontsize{60}
 \draftcolor{gray20}

 in each preamble and then

 \rcsid{$Id$}
 \draftstring{v\rcsfilerev, \rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}

 in ERT into each file.

 because that way I can pdflatex the whole master document, but also each
 individual one on its own :-)-O

Fine.

 This is very cool, but I think one should look at a Request for Feature,
 because this situation is surely not unique :-)-O

You could consider writing a LyX module that provides an inset
(instead of the ERT) and puts the required code in the preamble if the
inset is used. (See HelpCustomization on hwo to do this.)

Günter



Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
 several files?

no.

however if you don't want to do it specifically for few files but for the whole
tree check out is possible via update local directory (see icon in VCS toolbar).

checkin counterpart is not there, but there is possibility to add keybinding
(or even manually add your own icon) for VC_COMMAND which will do something
like svn ci .

see additional features manual, version control section and also LFUNs manual
for VC_COMMAND details.

pavel


Re: Cursor Color LyX 2.0RC2

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Greg Kise wrote:
 Second, did we lose the ability to change the cursor color? I see that 
 cursor is absent from the color preferences. Any way to change the cursor 
 color like before?

i see it here. pavel


Re: Checking in/out of multiple files

2011-03-30 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
The cursor option only appears if one unchecks Use system colours
checkbox, below the colours list.
(OSX French)

2011/3/30 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
  Hi,
 
  is it possible (on OS X 10.6.7, LyX 2.0 RC1) to check in or out
  several files?

 no.

 however if you don't want to do it specifically for few files but for the
 whole
 tree check out is possible via update local directory (see icon in VCS
 toolbar).

 checkin counterpart is not there, but there is possibility to add
 keybinding
 (or even manually add your own icon) for VC_COMMAND which will do something
 like svn ci .

 see additional features manual, version control section and also LFUNs
 manual
 for VC_COMMAND details.

 pavel




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How do I avoid luatex defaults?

2011-03-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
I haven't used LyX for some time and when I did so today I found that it
was using luatex as the default for exporting pdf files. This produced
errors. I evntually found how to return to the previous choice
(pdflatex) but is there any way to configure LyX to use the previous
representation of choices fir File - Export? I couldn't find anything
in Preferences.

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Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
a number with units in math mode.

In LaTeX, one would enter

$a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
with backslashes, thus:

$a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

This does not render correctly.

Is there any way around this?

I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
is possible in 1.6!

Thanks!

-- 
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http://andrewsteele.co.uk/


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

Have you tried to enter this in ERT (ctrl+l)?
Liviu


 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes, thus:

 $a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

 This does not render correctly.

 Is there any way around this?

 I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
 is possible in 1.6!

 Thanks!

 --
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 http://andrewsteele.co.uk/




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Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
equation editor!

Is there a better workaround? :)

On 30 March 2011 12:48, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Andrew Steele
 sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

 Have you tried to enter this in ERT (ctrl+l)?
 Liviu


 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes, thus:

 $a = \SI{50}   \{   \metre\per\second\squared   \}   $

 This does not render correctly.

 Is there any way around this?

 I am using LyX 2.0.0RC1 on Windows XP, but please let me know if this
 is possible in 1.6!

 Thanks!

 --
 Andrew Steele
 http://andrewsteele.co.uk/




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Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
 within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
 equation editor!

 Is there a better workaround? :)

Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

Regards
Liviu


newfile1.lyx
Description: Binary data


newfile1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Steele
It seems to work if you press ctrl-L or type a backslash before typing
the second set of curly braces.

Thanks for nudging me in the right direction!

On 30 March 2011 12:56, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
 sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk wrote:
 Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
 within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
 equation editor!

 Is there a better workaround? :)

 Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
 that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
 shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
 your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

 Regards
 Liviu




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Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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Hi

I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

Thanks,

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Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
 wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
 projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
 amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
 highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

Yup, I hit this wall, too, once [1]. At that time there were two ideas
floating:
- allow external editing ERT insets with a random text editor
- integrate with QScintilla

Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

Cheers
Liviu

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg159200.html


Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 30/03/11 14:38, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am thinking of using Lyx with sweave, but there is one thing I am
 wondering about whioch would be important for using it for longer
 projects: is there a possibility to define an external editor (e.g.
 amacs with ESS or gedit) for code blocks, so that I would have syntax
 highlighting et al. when editing code blocks in the external editor?

 Yup, I hit this wall, too, once [1]. At that time there were two ideas
 floating:
 - allow external editing ERT insets with a random text editor

This would be the best solution, as it would include all the flexibility
for the user to choose the editor of preference, and be usable fo all
kind of language types.

 - integrate with QScintilla

I would say second best, as it would only represent a subset of the
functionality of an external editor like for example emacs+ESS for R.

In general, I think the addition of an external editor feature for ert
boxes, would open many doors for LyX.

 
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

Is there already a feature request for this?

Rainer

 
 Cheers
 Liviu
 
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Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

 Is there already a feature request for this?

No, not that I know of. I planned to do so, but it never got high
enough on my list. Cheers
Liviu

PS A perfect solution would be to provide both: QScintilla
integration and the possibility to edit externally :)


Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
become the default.

Pavel


Re: Sweave and external R code editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 30/03/11 14:51, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Both are probably worth of a bug report and perhaps of a GSoC project.
 Otherwise we're only missing someone interested in implementing this.

 Is there already a feature request for this?

 No, not that I know of. I planned to do so, but it never got high
 enough on my list. Cheers
 Liviu
 
 PS A perfect solution would be to provide both: QScintilla
 integration and the possibility to edit externally :)

I have added one:

#7404 (Enable editing of ERT boxes in external editor)

Could you please check if you have anything to add? Thanks.

Cheers,

Rainer
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Julio Rojas
Oxigen, although I still don't like the icons for PDF, DVI and PS
compilation in none of the three. Why the change? Regards.
-
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Rainer M Krug
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Anything but Oxygen (I don't like the Oxygen set and it is two icons wider)
Cheers,

Rainer

On 30/03/11 15:26, Pavel Sanda wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,
 
 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.
 
 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png
 
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen
 
 vote.
 
 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.
 
 Pavel


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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
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Office Suite 2039
Stellenbosch University
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Nice efforts! Thank you to the team.

I like the new themes but I am not completely convinced by the
informativeness of several icons in both of them.

I have tried both in RC2 and I observe that I have voted even before you
ask, by establishing the old theme :-)

As a consequence, I vote for the old set.

Murat

2011/3/30 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org

 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel




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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread David L. Johnson

On 03/30/11 09:26, Pavel Sanda wrote:


- old


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread curtis osterhoudt


In order of preference, I vote:

1. Oxygen
2. The old set
3. Libreoffice


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 Dear LyX users and developers,

 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with

 - old

 - libreoffice

 - oxygen

 vote.

 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.

 Pavel




  

Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote:
 - oxygen

.. although the icons for PDF, DVI and PS compilation are a bit confusing.

Liviu


Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Julien Rioux

On 30/03/2011 8:02 AM, Andrew Steele wrote:

It seems to work if you press ctrl-L or type a backslash before typing
the second set of curly braces.

Thanks for nudging me in the right direction!

On 30 March 2011 12:56, Liviu Androniclandronim...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Steele
sta...@andrewsteele.co.uk  wrote:

Yes, that does work, but it seems to be impossible to start an ERT box
within math mode, and this rather defeats the object of the visual
equation editor!

Is there a better workaround? :)


Hmm, here in both cases I get the same result (see attached). I assume
that you include the dollar signs in math mode, something that you
shouldn't do. To make sure that the math representation conforms to
your LaTeX code expectations, try View  Source.

Regards
Liviu







It should work in 1.6, too, doesn't it?

A neat approach is to define a fake math macro: Insert  Math  Macro, 
then put a % in a TeX Code right in front of it, on the same line.


Define your SI math macro to take two arguments and LyX will know what 
to do with it each time you type \SI in math mode.


--
Julien



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Julien Rioux

On 30/03/2011 9:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

- oxygen



--
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/30/2011 09:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

I don't care that much, as long as it isn't old. (I don't much use the 
toolbars, except for math.)


Presumably, packagers can change this fairly easily, yes?

That said, why are the Oxygen toolbars wider than the Libre ones?

Richard



Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread BOB Merhebi
Hello fellow Lyxers,

I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
similar to the user guide when printed ?
Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
(after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
why is  how to fix that ?

You help is appreciated

P.S.: I tried subscribing to: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org but I received a
failure reply. Might it be related to my subscription in the digest ?

thanks

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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Les Denham
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 08:26:28 Pavel Sanda wrote:
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen

I don't have strong feelings about this.  I'm personally most comfortable with 
the old icons, but I can see  arguments for both the other sets.  

The Libreoffice icons are surely destined to become very well known as 
Libreoffice replaces Openoffice as the most widely used replacement for MS 
Office, and this will make them familiar to most new users of LyX.

Oxygen has the goal of “Make a break with the past and go in a new 
direction, leaving behind the cartoonish and childish look of previous 
graphics”, and certainly this is a worthy goal.

On balance, as I don't have strong feelings as a user, I should vote for the 
one which will be of most use to LyX as a community for the longest time.  
That must surely be Oxygen. See:
http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=2
-- 
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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

libreoffice







Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Daniel CLEMENT
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 libreoffice

+1

BTW, does default mean that users will be able to change? If so, is it
new in 2.0?

In 1.6.9, I have not found any way to change them (am I wrong?)

Regards,
-- 
Daniel CLEMENT




Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/30/2011 11:49 AM, Daniel CLEMENT wrote:

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


libreoffice

+1

BTW, does default mean that users will be able to change? If so, is it
new in 2.0?

In 1.6.9, I have not found any way to change them (am I wrong?)


The ability to select icon sets is new to 2.0. New as of a week ago or so.

rh



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread James C. Sutherland
oxygen


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Kornel
Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
 - libreoffice


Kornel


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Jacob Bishop
I vote:

Oxygen

That said, I think the entire view/update toolbar could use some work,
particularly with Oxygen icon set. I like the other icons on oxygen better,
by enough I'll go with it. If I had my choice, I'd use oxygen for everything
but that view/update toolbar. It's probably not that easy though.

Jacob


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Påvel Nicklasson

LibreOffice

It is very nice to be able to change icons!

Påvel



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Johannes Wilm
Libreoffice

(will make it easier to get Libreoffice users to use it)


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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Manolo Martínez
I think I prefer the old one
M

El mié, 30-03-2011 a las 15:26 +0200, Pavel Sanda escribió: 
 Dear LyX users and developers,
 
 after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
 and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.
 
 Please have a look at
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png
 
 These are the three themes available and we want to know which
 should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
 anyone interested can reply to this thread with
 
 - old
 
 - libreoffice
 
 - oxygen
 
 vote.
 
 At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
 become the default.
 
 Pavel




Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread jezZiFeR

Me too, the old one…
Oxygen would also work for me, libreoffice is not really intuitive for  
me.




Am 30.03.2011 um 19:43 schrieb Manolo Martínez:


I think I prefer the old one
M

El mié, 30-03-2011 a las 15:26 +0200, Pavel Sanda escribió:

Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner  
will

become the default.

Pavel







Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Marco Beishuizen

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Dear LyX users and developers,

after long struggle the new relase contains two new icon themes and
and some people want to give to LyX 2.0 new and shiny face.

Please have a look at
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/NewInLyX20/themes.png

These are the three themes available and we want to know which
should be the default one. So I'm opening the poll right now,
anyone interested can reply to this thread with

- old

- libreoffice

- oxygen

vote.

At the end (perhaps tomorrow night) we will count them and winner will
become the default.

Pavel


Since LyX is a QT application, I vote for Oxygen.

Regards,
Marco

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company for a number and then give it back to them.


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Georg Baum
libreoffice



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread David Hewitt
Oxygen for sure!

- Dave


Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread stephen's mailinglist account
On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
machine - hence no current lyx access)

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
have a part too but..)
For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
article to book you are missing chapter 1.


 -Bob Merhebi


-- 
Stephen


Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-30, Pavel Sanda wrote:

old

(second choice) libreoffice

Günter



Re: Using siunitx with LyX

2011-03-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-03-30, Andrew Steele wrote:
 I am trying to use the package siunitx for correct typesetting of SI
 units with LyX. However, I run into a problem when attempting to enter
 a number with units in math mode.

 In LaTeX, one would enter

 $a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}$

 However, in LyX, the second set of curly braces does not seem to be
 associated with the initial command, which leads to them being escaped
 with backslashes

There are two ways around this problem:

a) Write a = \SI{50}{\metre\per\second\squared}, highlight and press
   Ctrl-M.
   
b) Write \{ when you want a non-escaped {
   (LyX switches the input convention of literal and grouping bracket).
   
Günter   



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Cor Blom
oxygen



Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Jens Nöckel
libreoffice

Although I'll miss the old noun icon: it's the last samurai of the 8-bit 
world. 
Jens



Directory path to the document cannot contain spaces

2011-03-30 Thread Joon Ro
Hi,Yesterday I updated to the RC2 version, and since then lyx has been giving me the no spaces in path error whenever I tried to export pdf.Until RC1, lyx compiled pdf with .lyx file in the same folder without any problem.Is this a known bug?Thank you,Joon

Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

2011-03-30 Thread BOB Merhebi
On 03/30/2011 10:12 PM, stephen's mailinglist account wrote:
 On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

 I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
 I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
 where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
 machine - hence no current lyx access)


Indeed I figured this out with the help of Richard (copied at the end) a
few hrs ago; thanks for the reply though :D
 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

 For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
 have a part too but..)
 For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
 article to book you are missing chapter 1.


Indeed as well, though the typesetting is not similar; it displays:

Part #:: for part (centered)
Chapter #:: for chapter

 -Bob Merhebi


On 03/30/2011 10:53 AM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when
 printed.

DocumentSettingsFontsDefault Size.

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be?

Yes. The classes are almost identical.

 Will it be similar to the user guide when printed?

No. I think the user guide uses article (koma-script). But this is
independent of font size (except that the koma classes may offer more
choices).

 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

This is because books have chapters.

 One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
 (after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
 why is  how to fix that ?

Because you are still in the Contents chapter. If you don't have
chapters, you do not want book.

Richard

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Re: Poll for the default icon theme in LyX 2.0

2011-03-30 Thread Walter
libreoffice
 ... since it will grow and support the holy grail of open source user
experience consistency :)

- Walter


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