Re: about python3 and lyx

[José Matos]

On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
 My questions are exclusive (or not)
 
 1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
 forget the old python2?

  There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to 
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the 
code supporting both versions of python.

Any help is welcome. :-)

 Or
 
 2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version in
 lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
 
 Best Regards

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: about python3 and lyx

[Steve Burnham]

On Nov 26, 2014 10:42 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
  My questions are exclusive (or not)
 
  1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
  forget the old python2?

   There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the
code supporting both versions of python.

 Any help is welcome. :-)

  Or
 
  2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version
in
  lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
 
  Best Regards

 Regards,
 --
 José Abílio

Is there any real pressing need to move over to Python 3? I'm a pretty
heavy python user and it just doesn't seem like the scientific community in
general cares about it. I've actually never met anyone who runs anything in
3.  Two of the major python package managers (anaconda and canopy) either
default to 2 or don't even support 3.

-Steve

Beginner's Problem

[Ashok]

Hi,

I just heard about LyX and, with great enthusiasm, set out to use it. I 
download the bundle 2.1.2 for Windows and installed it. MiKTeX also got 
installed. It looked like everything went well, but ..

Each and every Document Class is Unavailable. There're hundreds listed, 
but none that can be used.

I open any of the included manuals and a window pops up saying Document 
Class is missing and that I should look at section 3.1.2 of User's 
Guide. I looked at it and it asks me to look at Customization manual! I 
looked at it, but it is well beyond a beginner. (An early step says 
Find it at CTAN or whatever.)

Also, instructions don't cover Windows 8.1, which I use (that may or may 
not matter, if they're the same as for Vista. It does matter that 
instructions are inherently difficult and not explained with sympathy 
for newcomers.)

The manuals say that there are innumerable Latex additions, they can't 
all be included/supported. Granted that, I was hoping that just a few 
widely-used Document Classes (e.g., article, book) would come standard.

Document Class may not be the end of the problem for a beginner. In 
addition, for some manuals, there's a second pop-up window that says 
that I should install some module.

Should someone like me just give up and go back to Scientific Word?

TIA.

Re: about python3 and lyx

[José Matos]

On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
 My questions are exclusive (or not)
 
 1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
 forget the old python2?

  There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to 
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the 
code supporting both versions of python.

Any help is welcome. :-)

 Or
 
 2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version in
 lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
 
 Best Regards

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: about python3 and lyx

[Steve Burnham]

On Nov 26, 2014 10:42 AM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
  My questions are exclusive (or not)
 
  1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
  forget the old python2?

   There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the
code supporting both versions of python.

 Any help is welcome. :-)

  Or
 
  2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version
in
  lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
 
  Best Regards

 Regards,
 --
 José Abílio

Is there any real pressing need to move over to Python 3? I'm a pretty
heavy python user and it just doesn't seem like the scientific community in
general cares about it. I've actually never met anyone who runs anything in
3.  Two of the major python package managers (anaconda and canopy) either
default to 2 or don't even support 3.

-Steve

Beginner's Problem

[Ashok]

Hi,

I just heard about LyX and, with great enthusiasm, set out to use it. I 
download the bundle 2.1.2 for Windows and installed it. MiKTeX also got 
installed. It looked like everything went well, but ..

Each and every Document Class is Unavailable. There're hundreds listed, 
but none that can be used.

I open any of the included manuals and a window pops up saying Document 
Class is missing and that I should look at section 3.1.2 of User's 
Guide. I looked at it and it asks me to look at Customization manual! I 
looked at it, but it is well beyond a beginner. (An early step says 
Find it at CTAN or whatever.)

Also, instructions don't cover Windows 8.1, which I use (that may or may 
not matter, if they're the same as for Vista. It does matter that 
instructions are inherently difficult and not explained with sympathy 
for newcomers.)

The manuals say that there are innumerable Latex additions, they can't 
all be included/supported. Granted that, I was hoping that just a few 
widely-used Document Classes (e.g., article, book) would come standard.

Document Class may not be the end of the problem for a beginner. In 
addition, for some manuals, there's a second pop-up window that says 
that I should install some module.

Should someone like me just give up and go back to Scientific Word?

TIA.

Re: about python3 and lyx

[José Matos]

On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
> My questions are exclusive (or not)
> 
> 1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
> forget the old python2?

  There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to 
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the 
code supporting both versions of python.

Any help is welcome. :-)

> Or
> 
> 2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version in
> lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
> 
> Best Regards

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: about python3 and lyx

[Steve Burnham]

On Nov 26, 2014 10:42 AM, "José Matos"  wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 08 October 2014 09:22:08 Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
> > My questions are exclusive (or not)
> >
> > 1.   Is there a plan to move everything to python3 so we can finally
> > forget the old python2?
>
>   There is consensus to go that way but we are not there yet. We need to
identify which parts of the code are python2 specific and at least have the
code supporting both versions of python.
>
> Any help is welcome. :-)
>
> > Or
> >
> > 2.   Is there a way to have both python3 and bundled python version
in
> > lyx living together in windows? Any hints?
> >
> > Best Regards
>
> Regards,
> --
> José Abílio

Is there any real pressing need to move over to Python 3? I'm a pretty
heavy python user and it just doesn't seem like the scientific community in
general cares about it. I've actually never met anyone who runs anything in
3.  Two of the major python package managers (anaconda and canopy) either
default to 2 or don't even support 3.

-Steve

Beginner's Problem

[Ashok]

Hi,

I just heard about LyX and, with great enthusiasm, set out to use it. I 
download the bundle 2.1.2 for Windows and installed it. MiKTeX also got 
installed. It looked like everything went well, but ..

Each and every Document Class is "Unavailable. There're hundreds listed, 
but none that can be used.

I open any of the included manuals and a window pops up saying Document 
Class is missing and that I should look at section 3.1.2 of User's 
Guide. I looked at it and it asks me to look at Customization manual! I 
looked at it, but it is well beyond a beginner. (An early step says 
"Find it at CTAN or whatever".)

Also, instructions don't cover Windows 8.1, which I use (that may or may 
not matter, if they're the same as for Vista. It does matter that 
instructions are inherently difficult and not explained with sympathy 
for newcomers.)

The manuals say that there are innumerable Latex additions, they can't 
all be included/supported. Granted that, I was hoping that just a few 
widely-used Document Classes (e.g., article, book) would come standard.

Document Class may not be the end of the problem for a beginner. In 
addition, for some manuals, there's a second pop-up window that says 
that I should install some module.

Should someone like me just give up and go back to Scientific Word?

TIA.