Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Russell Flowers]

I am in no hurry. Thank you.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:12 PM Benjamin Forster  wrote:

> Hi Russell: I'll check to see if any aren't working! You may have to wait
> a few days The keyboards all look solid; they aren't too badly worn.
> Ben
> --
> *From:* M100  on behalf of Russell
> Flowers 
> *Sent:* November 18, 2020 9:08 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?
>
> Thanks, but I specifically want a NON-working 100/102. I'm not interested
> in the 200. And I would like to get one that has a keyboard that at least
> looks like it would work. Thanks for your response!
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 PM Benjamin Forster  wrote:
>
> Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are
> working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that
> isn't working
> Ben
> --
> *From:* M100  on behalf of Russell
> Flowers 
> *Sent:* November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> *Subject:* [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?
>
> I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case"
> projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due
> to the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone),
> the PCB etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact
> keyboard.
>
> If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or
> on list is fine.
>
> Yours, Russell
>
>

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Benjamin Forster]

Hi Russell: I'll check to see if any aren't working! You may have to wait a few 
days The keyboards all look solid; they aren't too badly worn.
Ben

From: M100  on behalf of Russell Flowers 

Sent: November 18, 2020 9:08 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

Thanks, but I specifically want a NON-working 100/102. I'm not interested in 
the 200. And I would like to get one that has a keyboard that at least looks 
like it would work. Thanks for your response!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 PM Benjamin Forster 
mailto:bfors...@uwo.ca>> wrote:
Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are 
working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that 
isn't working
Ben

From: M100 
mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> 
on behalf of Russell Flowers mailto:rflow...@gmail.com>>
Sent: November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
Subject: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case" 
projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due to 
the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone), the PCB 
etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact keyboard.

If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or on 
list is fine.

Yours, Russell

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Russell Flowers]

Thanks, but I specifically want a NON-working 100/102. I'm not interested
in the 200. And I would like to get one that has a keyboard that at least
looks like it would work. Thanks for your response!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 PM Benjamin Forster  wrote:

> Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are
> working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that
> isn't working
> Ben
> --
> *From:* M100  on behalf of Russell
> Flowers 
> *Sent:* November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> *Subject:* [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?
>
> I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case"
> projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due
> to the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone),
> the PCB etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact
> keyboard.
>
> If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or
> on list is fine.
>
> Yours, Russell
>

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Benjamin Forster]

Nice thought Robert, but I don't have any parted out and don't have time to do 
that; right now I am completely occupied selling off bits and pieces of my 
reel-to-reel collection
Josh: All I know about the 200 is that it seems to power up and occasionally 
shows the directory; otherwise the screen blacks out (i.e. all the pixels go 
black at the same time -- from what I remember,  I think there is rolling bar 
that shows as well).
Ben

From: M100  on behalf of Robert J. Hutchins 

Sent: November 18, 2020 8:53 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?


Hi,

If you are selling pieces, I could use a M102 lcd and motherboard…



From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin 
Forster
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:43 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?



Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are 
working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that 
isn't working

Ben



From: M100 
mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> 
on behalf of Russell Flowers mailto:rflow...@gmail.com>>
Sent: November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
Subject: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?



I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case" 
projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due to 
the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone), the PCB 
etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact keyboard.



If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or on 
list is fine.



Yours, Russell

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Robert J. Hutchins]

Hi,

If you are selling pieces, I could use a M102 lcd and motherboard. 

 

From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin
Forster
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:43 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

 

Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are
working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that
isn't working

Ben

  _  

From: M100 mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com> > on behalf of Russell Flowers
mailto:rflow...@gmail.com> >
Sent: November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com   mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> >
Subject: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)? 

 

I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case"
projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due
to the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone),
the PCB etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact
keyboard. 

 

If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or on
list is fine.

 

Yours, Russell

Re: [M100] TPDD2 help

[Josh Malone]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 5:50 PM Brian White  wrote:
>
> The felt is on a plastic arm, but that arm is lifted by a bit of sheet metal 
> to let the disk in and out.
>
> I think what he meant was it's possible for that metal to be bent and keep 
> the felt lifted, perhaps only a little, even when the disk is inserted and 
> the door closed, preventing the felt from pressing the disk to the read/write 
> head.

Yes. Quick test is to press lightly on the felt pad/arm and see if the
disc magically reads/writes properly then. That's how I found this
issue.

-Josh

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Josh Malone]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:42 PM Benjamin Forster  wrote:
>
> Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are 
> working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that 
> isn't working
> Ben

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the 200?

Re: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Benjamin Forster]

Hi: I've got several, though I would have to check to see which ones are 
working or not. Do you mind getting a working one? I know I have a 200 that 
isn't working
Ben

From: M100  on behalf of Russell Flowers 

Sent: November 18, 2020 6:01 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: [M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case" 
projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due to 
the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone), the PCB 
etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact keyboard.

If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or on 
list is fine.

Yours, Russell

Re: [M100] Dead Model 100

[Robert J. Hutchins]

I assumed you switched off the memory voltage. Hit the reset button. This is 
what corrupted memory does…

Try your memory one piece at a time…

 

From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Peter Vollan
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:04 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: [M100] Dead Model 100

 

 

  modelt.jpg

 

This is what my Model 100s screen looks like now. I cold started, removed the 
REX and even swapped out another main ROM and no change. I was using TS-DOS to 
download files from Dlplus when it happened although I have no idea if that is 
the reason. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone do repairs? Sorry to burden everyone 
with my problems. 

 

[M100] Anyone selling dead Model 100 (shells or otherwise)?

[Russell Flowers]

I'm somewhat interested in doing one of those "Raspberry Pi in a 100 case"
projects. Does anyone have a dead 100/102 for sale, and at what price? Due
to the nature of the project, the screen could be total trash (even gone),
the PCB etc. doesn't matter... only thing important would be an intact
keyboard.

If you have one to get rid of, shoot me a price (and shipping)... off or on
list is fine.

Yours, Russell

Re: [M100] Dead Model 100

[Brian White]

If you have another main rom to swap, does that mean you have another whole
M100 you could swap the lcd board?

No software can do that in such a way that a cold reset doesn't clear it.
There is almost certainly a hardware problem somewhere.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 3:04 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

>  modelt.jpg
> 
>
>>
> This is what my Model 100s screen looks like now. I cold started, removed
> the REX and even swapped out another main ROM and no change. I was using
> TS-DOS to download files from Dlplus when it happened although I have no
> idea if that is the reason. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone do repairs? Sorry
> to burden everyone with my problems.
>
>

Re: [M100] TPDD2 help

[Brian White]

The felt is on a plastic arm, but that arm is lifted by a bit of sheet
metal to let the disk in and out.

I think what he meant was it's possible for that metal to be bent and keep
the felt lifted, perhaps only a little, even when the disk is inserted and
the door closed, preventing the felt from pressing the disk to the
read/write head.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 2:44 PM Francois Gurin  wrote:

>
> Thanks for the advice!  I did some tinkering and the TPDD2 still reports
> an I/O error or Communications error when trying to format (depending on
> DOS), you can see it homes and seems to step through each sector.The
> felt pad on the drive seems to be on a plastic arm, not a metal one.
> It seems to be making decent contact with the disk from a quick visual.
>
> I did notice the low battery led wasn't flashing and seems to have broken
> off the solder points.  I haven't had a chance to fix this yet, but can't
> imagine it's related.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:57 PM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:
>
>> In addition to what Josh said you can look for the low battery LED to
>> very briefly flash when you turn it ON (or OFF, can’t remember which just
>> now). This is a sign that the power supply is putting out 5V and it is
>> getting to the control board.
>>
>>
>>
>> The connector from the battery compartment/ext. power jack it a pain to
>> snap in place and may have popped loose.
>>
>>
>>
>> Worse case would be something popped loose from the power supply. I
>> worked on one last week that had a battery leak in its past which did a
>> number on the power supply board. A board in that shape could have a
>> component knocked loose from a fall. The video for that repair will be out
>> this Saturday in fact.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck let us know if you get it or if you need help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Birt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *Josh
>> Malone
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:45 AM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] TPDD2 help
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the PDD design I think is pretty robust - physically at least.
>> Things I would check off the top of my head:
>>
>>
>>
>>  - Is the belt still in place?
>>
>>  - Does it still power up (PSU board has connector that could shift loose)
>>
>>  - Does disk still insert / eject smoothly?
>>
>>
>>
>> One non-obvious thing I've seen on a couple of PDDs now is this:  There
>> is a metal tab on the top of the frame that lifts the felt pressure-pad off
>> the disk cookie during eject. This tab was physically bent on 2 of the
>> drives I've seen, preventing the felt from making contact. The result was
>> that the cookie was not pressed firmly against the drive head and the disk
>> was not read properly. Bending this tab is very touchy as the felt needs to
>> raise up quickly enough to clear the disk shell on eject, but still lower
>> fully to press the cookie to the head.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:40 PM Francois Gurin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Reaching out to the list for advice and help.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently replaced the belt on my TPDD2 and was in the process of
>> writing to a test disk when the drive fell a few feet onto the carpeted
>> floor.  There's no obvious physical damage, but as you can expect it's no
>> longer able to read or write to disks.I'm going to guess the head is
>> physically out of alignment, but I haven't a clue where to start.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> If not, anyone interested in taking a look?
>>
>>
>>
>> --FG
>>
>>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Brian White]

It's possible they made a EU version of TS-DOS that just isn't very common
or documented. We have seen other special versions of things like that.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 2:28 PM  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> ok, I understand better now, thank you.
>
> I am not aware of the software architecture inside the ROM, so for now, I
> can’t understand the program from Microsoft
> (and this is the same for TS-DOS) without spend months to analyse and try
> to decode the soft.
> But anyway, I am happy that Kurt and you agreed to the fact that TS-DOS
> was certainly not compatible with my EU version.
> Thank you infinitely for all your help and time.
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:14 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> Jean-Pierre,
>
> I think when I looked at the ROM, the sections that were different
> included the TELCOM section, and I assume that it means the modem tone
> generation is different.  That implies the RC filter networks on the modem
> circuitry would also be different.
> I can't say for sure but I believe the ROM functions are written to match
> the analog capabilities of the modem itself.
>
> but who uses the modem anyways!
>
> ..Steve
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:51 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, I don’t take into account that the ASCII character table was
>> extended for EU, very interesting !
>>
>> I am a litle bit surprised that Traveling software don’t think about the
>> European version but after all,
>> this is normal because in the past, we are not a market of big concern
>> and Traveling can not support
>> to write code for a such little market.
>>
>> Steve, you say that the modem will be no more usable if I replace the
>> European ROM image; can you explain why ?
>>
>> By the way,  here is the link for the pictures of the machine :
>>
>>
>> https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZ4pH7Z2uHNY094ADm5E2Kv3ccp2Vct8OcX
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:15 PM
>> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>> Most likely, the folks at Traveling Software didn't take into account the
>> EU version. Or perhaps they were unaware of it. Those details are likely
>> lost to time.
>>
>> As for compatibility. I would check the model number on the main board to
>> make sure it matches the US mainboard. If not, there could be issues.
>> Hopefully the ROM patch was something specific to EU use such as the
>> extended ASCII character table.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 8:12 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and
>> effectively, she are differents.
>> Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102
>> ROM inside a 27C256 to make a try ?
>> Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe
>> not a good idea.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the
>> European version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Cc:* Model 100 Discussion 
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>>
>> yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
>> So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm
>> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found
>> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by
>> Steve.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Brian White 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
>> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Here is the ROM image.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the test !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
>> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>>
>>
>> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
>> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>

Re: [M100] SPAM-LOW: Dead Model 100

[Jeffrey Birt]

When the LCD is first powered up it will turn all segments black. After the 
computer properly initializes the LCD drivers a;; segments will be turned off. 
Having them all black would indicate that the LCD drivers are able to address 
the individual LCD segments. Since they are not clearing it would seem to 
indicate that the drivers are not being initialized properly.

 

I would start by first doing a hard reset (CTRL+BREAK+reset_button, hold reset 
until after machine boots then release). If that does not do anything then make 
sure you did not inadvertently bend some pins on the ROM you put back in, etc. 
If you get stuck, I do repairs.

 

Jeff Birt

 

 

From: M100  On Behalf Of Peter Vollan
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:04 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: [M100] Dead Model 100

 

 

  modelt.jpg

 

This is what my Model 100s screen looks like now. I cold started, removed the 
REX and even swapped out another main ROM and no change. I was using TS-DOS to 
download files from Dlplus when it happened although I have no idea if that is 
the reason. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone do repairs? Sorry to burden everyone 
with my problems. 

 

Re: [M100] Dead Model 100

[Stephen Adolph]

holy smokes!  not sure what to think about that!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 3:04 PM Peter Vollan  wrote:

>  modelt.jpg
> 
>
>>
> This is what my Model 100s screen looks like now. I cold started, removed
> the REX and even swapped out another main ROM and no change. I was using
> TS-DOS to download files from Dlplus when it happened although I have no
> idea if that is the reason. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone do repairs? Sorry
> to burden everyone with my problems.
>
>

[M100] Dead Model 100

[Peter Vollan]

 modelt.jpg


>
This is what my Model 100s screen looks like now. I cold started, removed
the REX and even swapped out another main ROM and no change. I was using
TS-DOS to download files from Dlplus when it happened although I have no
idea if that is the reason. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone do repairs? Sorry
to burden everyone with my problems.

Re: [M100] TPDD2 help

[Francois Gurin]

Thanks for the advice!  I did some tinkering and the TPDD2 still reports an
I/O error or Communications error when trying to format (depending on DOS),
you can see it homes and seems to step through each sector.The felt pad
on the drive seems to be on a plastic arm, not a metal one.  It seems
to be making decent contact with the disk from a quick visual.

I did notice the low battery led wasn't flashing and seems to have broken
off the solder points.  I haven't had a chance to fix this yet, but can't
imagine it's related.




On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:57 PM Jeffrey Birt  wrote:

> In addition to what Josh said you can look for the low battery LED to very
> briefly flash when you turn it ON (or OFF, can’t remember which just now).
> This is a sign that the power supply is putting out 5V and it is getting to
> the control board.
>
>
>
> The connector from the battery compartment/ext. power jack it a pain to
> snap in place and may have popped loose.
>
>
>
> Worse case would be something popped loose from the power supply. I worked
> on one last week that had a battery leak in its past which did a number on
> the power supply board. A board in that shape could have a component
> knocked loose from a fall. The video for that repair will be out this
> Saturday in fact.
>
>
>
> Good luck let us know if you get it or if you need help.
>
>
>
> Jeff Birt
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* M100  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Malone
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:45 AM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] TPDD2 help
>
>
>
> Most of the PDD design I think is pretty robust - physically at least.
> Things I would check off the top of my head:
>
>
>
>  - Is the belt still in place?
>
>  - Does it still power up (PSU board has connector that could shift loose)
>
>  - Does disk still insert / eject smoothly?
>
>
>
> One non-obvious thing I've seen on a couple of PDDs now is this:  There is
> a metal tab on the top of the frame that lifts the felt pressure-pad off
> the disk cookie during eject. This tab was physically bent on 2 of the
> drives I've seen, preventing the felt from making contact. The result was
> that the cookie was not pressed firmly against the drive head and the disk
> was not read properly. Bending this tab is very touchy as the felt needs to
> raise up quickly enough to clear the disk shell on eject, but still lower
> fully to press the cookie to the head.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> -Josh
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:40 PM Francois Gurin  wrote:
>
> Reaching out to the list for advice and help.
>
>
>
> I recently replaced the belt on my TPDD2 and was in the process of writing
> to a test disk when the drive fell a few feet onto the carpeted floor.
> There's no obvious physical damage, but as you can expect it's no longer
> able to read or write to disks.I'm going to guess the head is
> physically out of alignment, but I haven't a clue where to start.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> If not, anyone interested in taking a look?
>
>
>
> --FG
>
>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

Steve,

ok, I understand better now, thank you.

I am not aware of the software architecture inside the ROM, so for now, I can’t 
understand the program from Microsoft
(and this is the same for TS-DOS) without spend months to analyse and try to 
decode the soft.
But anyway, I am happy that Kurt and you agreed to the fact that TS-DOS was 
certainly not compatible with my EU version.
Thank you infinitely for all your help and time.

Jean – Pierre

From: Stephen Adolph 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:14 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

Jean-Pierre, 

I think when I looked at the ROM, the sections that were different included the 
TELCOM section, and I assume that it means the modem tone generation is 
different.  That implies the RC filter networks on the modem circuitry would 
also be different.
I can't say for sure but I believe the ROM functions are written to match the 
analog capabilities of the modem itself.

but who uses the modem anyways!

..Steve



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:51 PM  wrote:


  Yes, I don’t take into account that the ASCII character table was extended 
for EU, very interesting !

  I am a litle bit surprised that Traveling software don’t think about the 
European version but after all,
  this is normal because in the past, we are not a market of big concern and 
Traveling can not support
  to write code for a such little market.

  Steve, you say that the modem will be no more usable if I replace the 
European ROM image; can you explain why ?

  By the way,  here is the link for the pictures of the machine :

  https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZ4pH7Z2uHNY094ADm5E2Kv3ccp2Vct8OcX


  Jean – Pierre



  From: Kurt McCullum 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:15 PM
  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

  Most likely, the folks at Traveling Software didn't take into account the EU 
version. Or perhaps they were unaware of it. Those details are likely lost to 
time. 


  As for compatibility. I would check the model number on the main board to 
make sure it matches the US mainboard. If not, there could be issues. Hopefully 
the ROM patch was something specific to EU use such as the extended ASCII 
character table.


  Kurt

  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 8:12 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and 
effectively, she are differents.

Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM 
inside a 27C256 to make a try ?

Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe 
not a good idea.


 

 
This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the 
European version.


 

 
Jean – Pierre


 

 

 
From: Stephen Adolph

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM

To: m...@bitchin100.com

Cc: Model 100 Discussion

Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue


 
yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.

So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.


 

 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:



  When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm 
comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found that 
was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.


   
  Kurt


   
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided 
by Steve.



 


 
From: Brian White

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM

To: m...@bitchin100.com

Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue



 
Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 



 


 


 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

  Here is the ROM image.



   
  Thank you for the test !



   


   
  Jean – Pierre



   


   
  From: Kurt McCullum

  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM

  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com

  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue



   
  I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a 
standard 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.



   
  Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.



   
  Kurt



   
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

Dear all,


 


 

 


 
I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new 

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Stephen Adolph]

Jean-Pierre,

I think when I looked at the ROM, the sections that were different included
the TELCOM section, and I assume that it means the modem tone generation is
different.  That implies the RC filter networks on the modem
circuitry would also be different.
I can't say for sure but I believe the ROM functions are written to match
the analog capabilities of the modem itself.

but who uses the modem anyways!

..Steve



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:51 PM  wrote:

>
> Yes, I don’t take into account that the ASCII character table was extended
> for EU, very interesting !
>
> I am a litle bit surprised that Traveling software don’t think about the
> European version but after all,
> this is normal because in the past, we are not a market of big concern and
> Traveling can not support
> to write code for a such little market.
>
> Steve, you say that the modem will be no more usable if I replace the
> European ROM image; can you explain why ?
>
> By the way,  here is the link for the pictures of the machine :
>
> https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZ4pH7Z2uHNY094ADm5E2Kv3ccp2Vct8OcX
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:15 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> Most likely, the folks at Traveling Software didn't take into account the
> EU version. Or perhaps they were unaware of it. Those details are likely
> lost to time.
>
> As for compatibility. I would check the model number on the main board to
> make sure it matches the US mainboard. If not, there could be issues.
> Hopefully the ROM patch was something specific to EU use such as the
> extended ASCII character table.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 8:12 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and
> effectively, she are differents.
> Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM
> inside a 27C256 to make a try ?
> Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe
> not a good idea.
>
>
>
>
> This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the
> European version.
>
>
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Cc:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
>
> yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
> So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>
> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm
> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found
> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by
> Steve.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Brian White 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
>
>
> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>
> Here is the ROM image.
>
>
>
> Thank you for the test !
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
>
>
> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>
>
>
> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.
>
>
>
>
>
> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the
> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>
>
>
>
>
> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with
> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>
>
>
>
>
> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>
>
>
>
>
> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion
> of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>
>
>
>
>
> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :
>
>
>
>
>
> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>
>
>
>
> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>
>
>
>
> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>
>
>
>
> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>
>
>
>
> 4° input 0:test
>
>
>
>
> => now, all the screen disappears 

[M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

Yes, I don’t take into account that the ASCII character table was extended for 
EU, very interesting !

I am a litle bit surprised that Traveling software don’t think about the 
European version but after all,
this is normal because in the past, we are not a market of big concern and 
Traveling can not support
to write code for a such little market.

Steve, you say that the modem will be no more usable if I replace the European 
ROM image; can you explain why ?

By the way,  here is the link for the pictures of the machine :

https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZ4pH7Z2uHNY094ADm5E2Kv3ccp2Vct8OcX


Jean – Pierre



From: Kurt McCullum 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:15 PM
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

Most likely, the folks at Traveling Software didn't take into account the EU 
version. Or perhaps they were unaware of it. Those details are likely lost to 
time. 


As for compatibility. I would check the model number on the main board to make 
sure it matches the US mainboard. If not, there could be issues. Hopefully the 
ROM patch was something specific to EU use such as the extended ASCII character 
table.


Kurt

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 8:12 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

  Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and 
effectively, she are differents.

  Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM 
inside a 27C256 to make a try ?

  Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe not 
a good idea.


   

   
  This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the 
European version.


   

   
  Jean – Pierre


   

   

   
  From: Stephen Adolph

  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM

  To: m...@bitchin100.com

  Cc: Model 100 Discussion

  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue


   
  yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.

  So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.


   

   
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:



When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm 
comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found that 
was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.


 
Kurt


 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

  I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by 
Steve.



   


   
  From: Brian White

  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM

  To: m...@bitchin100.com

  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue



   
  Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 



   


   


   
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

Here is the ROM image.



 
Thank you for the test !



 


 
Jean – Pierre



 


 
From: Kurt McCullum

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM

To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com

Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue



 
I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 
102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.



 
Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.



 
Kurt



 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

  Dear all,


   


   

   


   
  I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from 
Steve.


   


   
  The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate 
the resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.


   


   
  In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him 
with the F3 button and a file name like for example:


   


   
  0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.


   


   
  When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a 
portion of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu


   


   
  PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.


   


   

   


   
  An another more radical crash occur when you made the following 
procedure :


   


   
  1° activate TS-DOS resident portion





   
  2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100





   
  3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)





   
  3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3





   
  4° input 0:test





   
  => now, all the screen disappears and the reset 

Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

[bob]

BINGO!   THANK YOU, JIM!

I had no idea that I had to use the TAB key to toggle between RAM and ROM modes.

This must have been in the REXCPM documentation on bitchin100.com.  Even though 
I have searched and searched bitchin100.com I must have missed it somehow.

I am so sorry that I consumed so much of everyone's time and bandwidth because 
of my lack of knowledge.

Thank you to all who have tried to help me!  

-Original Message-
From: M100  On Behalf Of Jim Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:13 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

> -Original Message-
> unable to load file named
> TSD100.BY
> Note the different extension (.BY).
> Why is RXCMGR asking for a file with the .BY extension?

.BY files are the RAM image backups - are you sure you're loading from the 
optrom screen instead of the ram image screen?







jim

Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

[Stephen Adolph]

Bob, Are you trying to load a ROM image into a RAM block?
..Steve

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:08 PM  wrote:

> Still trying to load TSD100.BX.
>
> I tried LaddieAlpha:  no luck, same file name error.
> I tried LaddieCON:  no luck but this time LaddieCON reported that it was
> unable to load file named
> TSD100.BY
> Note the different extension (.BY).
> Why is RXCMGR asking for a file with the .BY extension?
>
> Bob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M100  On Behalf Of Philip Avery
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
>
> Bob, I believe you need to rename your TSD101 file to be TSD101.BX
>
> Philip
>
> On 18/11/2020 9:25 am, Bert Put wrote:
> > Bob, I definitely second Steve's NADSBox suggestion, that worked very
> > well for me.
> >
> > Cheers,Bert
> >
> >
> > On 11/17/20 1:29 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:
> >> Bob, I recommend you use, if you can, laddiealpha on your working
> >> windows box?
> >> Nadsbox should work, works for me.
> >> You do need to be sure that the visible directory has the correct
> >> file name visible.
> >>
> >> TSD100.BX is the correct image file name for TS-DOS.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>  Steve et al,
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  I was successful in getting RXCINI.DO into my M100 using mComm on a
> >>  Win XP laptop with a real serial port.
> >>
> >>  Ran RXCINI just fine and got RXCMGR installed.  The problem all
> >>  along was the Dell “legacy port replicator”.  Clearly the Dell
> >>  implementation of a serial port emulation was flawed.
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  Now using RXCMGR, I am trying to load OptROM images (*.BR) from the
> >>  root directory of my NADSBox.  For example, I chose F2 to LOAD an
> >>  OptROM image, type in the filename (ex: TSD100) and NADSBox is
> >>  connected, but I always get the same error “File name error”.  I
> >>  know the .BR files for various OptROMs are there on the NADSBox SD
> >>  card, so I appear to be stumped again.
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  Are there differently named OptROM images intended for use with
> >>  RXCMGR?
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  *From:* M100  >>  > *On Behalf Of
> >>  *b...@pigford.org 
> >>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:27 PM
> >>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> >>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  Steve,
> >>
> >>  I’ve had enough for today.  I’ll go at it again in a day or two.
> No
> >>  need to fret over this.  I am sure I will get it one of these
> >> days.
> >>
> >>  Cheers,
> >>
> >>  Bob
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  *From:* M100  >>  > *On Behalf Of *Stephen
> >>  Adolph
> >>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:37 PM
> >>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
> >>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  If you continue to struggle, try this:
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>
> >> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REXCPM#Test_your_REXCPM_In
> >> stallation
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Stephen Adolph <
> twospru...@gmail.com
> >>  > wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi Bob,
> >>
> >>  my guess is that there are one of 2 things wrong.
> >>
> >>  1) the socket has some loose connections or
> >>
> >>  2) the 8 bit transfer didn't go as planned and there is
> >>  something amiss with RXCINI.DO
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  I must say, I need to make my utilities more bulletproof.  I
> >>  think I will adopt the Ron Weisen encoding...7 bit.
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  Steve
> >>
> >>  __ __
> >>
> >>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:06 PM  >>  > wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello all!
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>  Today I finally tried to install REXCPM in my M100.  I have
> >>  not yet succeeded.  Any suggestions would sure be
> >>  appreciated.  Here is the scenario:
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>  Using a Null Modem cable, I transferred the RXCINI.DO file
> >>  carefully to the M100.  I used 1200baud with TeraTerm on my
> >>  Dell Win10 laptop, 8 bits, etc.  My Dell Win10 machine came
> >>  with a Dell external device that provides supports legacy
> >>  ports via USB cable to an external box 

Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

[Jim Anderson]

> -Original Message-
> unable to load file named
> TSD100.BY
> Note the different extension (.BY).
> Why is RXCMGR asking for a file with the .BY extension?

.BY files are the RAM image backups - are you sure you're loading from the 
optrom screen instead of the ram image screen?







jim

Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

[bob]

Still trying to load TSD100.BX.

I tried LaddieAlpha:  no luck, same file name error.
I tried LaddieCON:  no luck but this time LaddieCON reported that it was unable 
to load file named
TSD100.BY
Note the different extension (.BY).
Why is RXCMGR asking for a file with the .BY extension?

Bob

-Original Message-
From: M100  On Behalf Of Philip Avery
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

Bob, I believe you need to rename your TSD101 file to be TSD101.BX

Philip

On 18/11/2020 9:25 am, Bert Put wrote:
> Bob, I definitely second Steve's NADSBox suggestion, that worked very 
> well for me.
>
> Cheers,Bert
>
>
> On 11/17/20 1:29 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:
>> Bob, I recommend you use, if you can, laddiealpha on your working 
>> windows box?
>> Nadsbox should work, works for me.
>> You do need to be sure that the visible directory has the correct 
>> file name visible.
>>
>> TSD100.BX is the correct image file name for TS-DOS.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM > > wrote:
>>
>>  Steve et al,
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  I was successful in getting RXCINI.DO into my M100 using mComm on a
>>  Win XP laptop with a real serial port.
>>
>>  Ran RXCINI just fine and got RXCMGR installed.  The problem all
>>  along was the Dell “legacy port replicator”.  Clearly the Dell
>>  implementation of a serial port emulation was flawed.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Now using RXCMGR, I am trying to load OptROM images (*.BR) from the
>>  root directory of my NADSBox.  For example, I chose F2 to LOAD an
>>  OptROM image, type in the filename (ex: TSD100) and NADSBox is
>>  connected, but I always get the same error “File name error”.  I
>>  know the .BR files for various OptROMs are there on the NADSBox SD
>>  card, so I appear to be stumped again.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Are there differently named OptROM images intended for use with
>>  RXCMGR?
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  *From:* M100 >  > *On Behalf Of
>>  *b...@pigford.org 
>>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:27 PM
>>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Steve,
>>
>>  I’ve had enough for today.  I’ll go at it again in a day or two.  No
>>  need to fret over this.  I am sure I will get it one of these 
>> days.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>>  Bob
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  *From:* M100 >  > *On Behalf Of *Stephen
>>  Adolph
>>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:37 PM
>>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  If you continue to struggle, try this:
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  
>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REXCPM#Test_your_REXCPM_In
>> stallation
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Stephen Adolph >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Bob,
>>
>>  my guess is that there are one of 2 things wrong.
>>
>>  1) the socket has some loose connections or
>>
>>  2) the 8 bit transfer didn't go as planned and there is
>>  something amiss with RXCINI.DO
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  I must say, I need to make my utilities more bulletproof.  I
>>  think I will adopt the Ron Weisen encoding...7 bit.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Steve
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:06 PM >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hello all!
>>
>>   
>>
>>  Today I finally tried to install REXCPM in my M100.  I have
>>  not yet succeeded.  Any suggestions would sure be
>>  appreciated.  Here is the scenario:
>>
>>   
>>
>>  Using a Null Modem cable, I transferred the RXCINI.DO file
>>  carefully to the M100.  I used 1200baud with TeraTerm on my
>>  Dell Win10 laptop, 8 bits, etc.  My Dell Win10 machine came
>>  with a Dell external device that provides supports legacy
>>  ports via USB cable to an external box with physical serial,
>>  parallel, Ethernet, and USB connections.  
>>
>>   
>>
>>  The transfer was successful and I looked at the lines of
>>  code in the  .DO file and compared to a screen listing of
>>  RXCINI (used Notepad).  All good.
>>
>>   
>>
>>  I connect my NADSbox with RXC_11.BR  AND
>>

Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

[bob]

Thanks for the suggestion, Philip.  But still the same error.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: M100  On Behalf Of Philip Avery
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded

Bob, I believe you need to rename your TSD101 file to be TSD101.BX

Philip

On 18/11/2020 9:25 am, Bert Put wrote:
> Bob, I definitely second Steve's NADSBox suggestion, that worked very 
> well for me.
>
> Cheers,Bert
>
>
> On 11/17/20 1:29 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:
>> Bob, I recommend you use, if you can, laddiealpha on your working 
>> windows box?
>> Nadsbox should work, works for me.
>> You do need to be sure that the visible directory has the correct 
>> file name visible.
>>
>> TSD100.BX is the correct image file name for TS-DOS.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM > > wrote:
>>
>>  Steve et al,
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  I was successful in getting RXCINI.DO into my M100 using mComm on a
>>  Win XP laptop with a real serial port.
>>
>>  Ran RXCINI just fine and got RXCMGR installed.  The problem all
>>  along was the Dell “legacy port replicator”.  Clearly the Dell
>>  implementation of a serial port emulation was flawed.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Now using RXCMGR, I am trying to load OptROM images (*.BR) from the
>>  root directory of my NADSBox.  For example, I chose F2 to LOAD an
>>  OptROM image, type in the filename (ex: TSD100) and NADSBox is
>>  connected, but I always get the same error “File name error”.  I
>>  know the .BR files for various OptROMs are there on the NADSBox SD
>>  card, so I appear to be stumped again.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Are there differently named OptROM images intended for use with
>>  RXCMGR?
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  *From:* M100 >  > *On Behalf Of
>>  *b...@pigford.org 
>>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:27 PM
>>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Steve,
>>
>>  I’ve had enough for today.  I’ll go at it again in a day or two.  No
>>  need to fret over this.  I am sure I will get it one of these 
>> days.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>>  Bob
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  *From:* M100 >  > *On Behalf Of *Stephen
>>  Adolph
>>  *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:37 PM
>>  *To:* m...@bitchin100.com 
>>  *Subject:* Re: [M100] STRUGGLING to get REXCPM loaded
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  If you continue to struggle, try this:
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  
>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REXCPM#Test_your_REXCPM_In
>> stallation
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Stephen Adolph >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Bob,
>>
>>  my guess is that there are one of 2 things wrong.
>>
>>  1) the socket has some loose connections or
>>
>>  2) the 8 bit transfer didn't go as planned and there is
>>  something amiss with RXCINI.DO
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  I must say, I need to make my utilities more bulletproof.  I
>>  think I will adopt the Ron Weisen encoding...7 bit.
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  Steve
>>
>>  __ __
>>
>>  On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:06 PM >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hello all!
>>
>>   
>>
>>  Today I finally tried to install REXCPM in my M100.  I have
>>  not yet succeeded.  Any suggestions would sure be
>>  appreciated.  Here is the scenario:
>>
>>   
>>
>>  Using a Null Modem cable, I transferred the RXCINI.DO file
>>  carefully to the M100.  I used 1200baud with TeraTerm on my
>>  Dell Win10 laptop, 8 bits, etc.  My Dell Win10 machine came
>>  with a Dell external device that provides supports legacy
>>  ports via USB cable to an external box with physical serial,
>>  parallel, Ethernet, and USB connections.  
>>
>>   
>>
>>  The transfer was successful and I looked at the lines of
>>  code in the  .DO file and compared to a screen listing of
>>  RXCINI (used Notepad).  All good.
>>
>>   
>>
>>  I connect my NADSbox with RXC_11.BR  AND
>>  RXCINI.DO In the root directory and using the cable that I
>>  have always used with my NADSbox.  Then I start through the
>>  steps found onthe Bitchin100 page:
>>
>>  

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Stephen Adolph]

Jean-Pierre, the good news is that your hardware is likely directly
compatible with 27C256. I say this by looking at the photo you sent
showing the main rom, and that other T102 are compatible with 27C256.

But, your board is different, too.
I think it would be useful to post your PCB images as an example of a T102
variant for EU.

So, we have to hope that your schematic is basically the same.It
probably is a "work alike" PCB with minor changes.

This would of course make your modem unusable, but hopefully everything
else continues to work.

Steve




On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:09 AM  wrote:

> Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and
> effectively, she are differents.
> Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM
> inside a 27C256 to make a try ?
> Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe
> not a good idea.
>
>
> This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the
> European version.
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Cc:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
> So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm
>> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found
>> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by
>> Steve.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Brian White 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>>
>> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
>> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Here is the ROM image.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the test !
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
>> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>>
>> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
>> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>>
>>
>> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from
>> Steve.
>>
>>
>>
>> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the
>> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>>
>>
>>
>> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with
>> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>>
>>
>>
>> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>>
>>
>>
>> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a
>> portion of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>>
>>
>>
>> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>>
>>
>>
>> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>>
>>
>>
>> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>>
>>
>>
>> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>>
>>
>>
>> 4° input 0:test
>>
>>
>>
>> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need
>> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and
>> the issue can be reproduced.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem
>> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
>> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Kurt McCullum]

Most likely, the folks at Traveling Software didn't take into account the EU 
version. Or perhaps they were unaware of it. Those details are likely lost to 
time. 

As for compatibility. I would check the model number on the main board to make 
sure it matches the US mainboard. If not, there could be issues. Hopefully the 
ROM patch was something specific to EU use such as the extended ASCII character 
table.

Kurt

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 8:12 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
> Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and 
> effectively, she are differents.
> Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM 
> inside a 27C256 to make a try ?
> Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe not 
> a good idea.
>  
>  
> This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the 
> European version.
>  
>  
> Jean – Pierre
>  
>  
>  
> *From:* Stephen Adolph 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Cc:* Model 100 Discussion 
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>  
> yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
> So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.
>  
>  
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>> __
>> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm 
>> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found 
>> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>>  
>> Kurt
>>  
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by 
>>> Steve.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> *From:* Brian White 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
>>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
>>> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
 Here is the ROM image.
 
  
 Thank you for the test !
 
  
 
  
 Jean – Pierre
 
  
 
  
 *From:* Kurt McCullum 
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
 *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
 *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
 
  
 I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 
 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
 
  
 Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
 
  
 Kurt
 
  
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
> Dear all,
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from 
> Steve.
>  
> 
>  
> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>  
> 
>  
> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with 
> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>  
> 
>  
> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>  
> 
>  
> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a 
> portion of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>  
> 
>  
> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure 
> :
>  
> 
>  
> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
> 
> 
>  
> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
> 
> 
>  
> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
> 
> 
>  
> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
> 
> 
>  
> 4° input 0:test
> 
> 
>  
> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need 
> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and 
> the issue can be reproduced.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem 
> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> 
>  
> Jean – Pierre
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
 
  
>>  

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

Yes, I have compared the ROM provided with Virtual T and my own ROM and 
effectively, she are differents.
Like I say to Steve, I wonder if, maybe, I can burn the VIRTUAL T M102 ROM 
inside a 27C256 to make a try ?
Naturally, there is a risk of hardware incompatibility, so, this is maybe not a 
good idea.


This is very strange that Microsoft did an another version of ROM for the 
European version.


Jean – Pierre



From: Stephen Adolph 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:00 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Cc: Model 100 Discussion 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

  When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm 
comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found that 
was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.


  Kurt

  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by 
Steve.


 

 
From: Brian White

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM

To: m...@bitchin100.com

Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue


 
Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 


 

 

 
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

  Here is the ROM image.


   
  Thank you for the test !


   

   
  Jean – Pierre


   

   
  From: Kurt McCullum

  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM

  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com

  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue


   
  I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 
102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.


   
  Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.


   
  Kurt


   
  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

Dear all,



 


 
I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from 
Steve.



 
The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.



 
In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with 
the F3 button and a file name like for example:



 
0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.



 
When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a 
portion of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu



 
PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.



 


 
An another more radical crash occur when you made the following 
procedure :



 
1° activate TS-DOS resident portion




 
2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100




 
3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)




 
3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3




 
4° input 0:test




 
=> now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I 
need to power off and on the machine to restart.



 


 
With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and 
the issue can be reproduced.



 


 
So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this 
problem or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was

incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?



 


 
Thank you,



 
Jean – Pierre



 


 

   

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Stephen Adolph]

Jean-Pierre sent me his ROM and I did a cursory check with REX#.  It seemed
to work correctly.
So, I think what is happening is that the ROM he has, which is modified for
EU, isn't compatible with TS-DOS.

(this relates to my earlier thread complaining about TS-DOS issues.  I
guess I still have this ROM loaded in my VT).

So...not much to do other than change the main ROM, unfortunately!
any other ideas?



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM Stephen Adolph 
wrote:

> yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
> So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm
>> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found
>> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by
>> Steve.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Brian White 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
>> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Here is the ROM image.
>>
>> Thank you for the test !
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
>> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>
>> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
>> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>>
>> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from
>> Steve.
>>
>>
>> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the
>> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>>
>>
>> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with
>> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>>
>>
>> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>>
>>
>> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a
>> portion of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>>
>>
>> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure
>> :
>>
>>
>> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>>
>>
>> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>>
>>
>> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>>
>>
>> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>>
>>
>> 4° input 0:test
>>
>>
>> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need
>> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and
>> the issue can be reproduced.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem
>> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
>> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Jean – Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

I must also say that, for an unkown reason, the issue manifest himself with 
differents ways into the TEXT editor.
Sometimes, you obtain just the message “aborted” like if the TS-DOS resident 
portion was off and sometimes,
like I say before, the screen freeze or display some menu of TELCOM (but this 
is more hard to obtain).




From: Brian White 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

  Here is the ROM image.

  Thank you for the test !


  Jean – Pierre


  From: Kurt McCullum 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

  I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 102 
rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.


  Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.


  Kurt

  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

Dear all,


 

 
I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.


 
The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.


 
In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the 
F3 button and a file name like for example:


 
0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.


 
When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion 
of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu


 
PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.


 

 
An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :


 
1° activate TS-DOS resident portion


 
2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100


 
3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)


 
3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3


 
4° input 0:test


 
=> now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need 
to power off and on the machine to restart.


 

 
With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
issue can be reproduced.


 

 
So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem 
or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was

incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?


 

 
Thank you,


 
Jean – Pierre


 

 

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Stephen Adolph]

yah, we know the rom is different.  Already compared.
So, maybe that EU ROM is not really compatible with TS-DOS.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm
> comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found
> that was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by
> Steve.
>
>
> *From:* Brian White 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>
> Here is the ROM image.
>
> Thank you for the test !
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>
> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
>
> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.
>
>
> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the
> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>
>
> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with
> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>
>
> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>
>
> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion
> of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>
>
> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>
>
>
>
> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :
>
>
> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>
>
> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>
>
> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>
>
> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>
>
> 4° input 0:test
>
>
> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need
> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>
>
>
>
> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the
> issue can be reproduced.
>
>
>
>
> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem
> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Kurt McCullum]

When using the ROM you sent, Virtual-T does crash like you indicated. I'm 
comparing the ROMs right now. They are different. The first byte I found that 
was different is at 0395h. I'll see what else I can find.

Kurt

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:59 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
> I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by 
> Steve.
>  
>  
> *From:* Brian White 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>  
> Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
> archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:
>> Here is the ROM image.
>>  
>> Thank you for the test !
>>  
>>  
>> Jean – Pierre
>>  
>>  
>> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
>> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>>  
>> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 102 
>> rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>>  
>> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>>  
>> Kurt
>>  
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
>>> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the 
>>> F3 button and a file name like for example:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion 
>>> of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>>> 
>>>  
>>> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 4° input 0:test
>>> 
>>>  
>>> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need 
>>> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
>>> issue can be reproduced.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem 
>>> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
>>> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Jean – Pierre
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>  

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

I dumped the image directly from my ROM with a little program provided by Steve.


From: Brian White 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:53 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the 
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages? 



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

  Here is the ROM image.

  Thank you for the test !


  Jean – Pierre


  From: Kurt McCullum 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
  To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
  Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

  I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 102 
rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.


  Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.


  Kurt

  On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

Dear all,


 

 
I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.


 
The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.


 
In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the 
F3 button and a file name like for example:


 
0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.


 
When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion 
of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu


 
PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.


 

 
An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :


 
1° activate TS-DOS resident portion


 
2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100


 
3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)


 
3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3


 
4° input 0:test


 
=> now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need 
to power off and on the machine to restart.


 

 
With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
issue can be reproduced.


 

 
So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem 
or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was

incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?


 

 
Thank you,


 
Jean – Pierre


 

 

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Brian White]

Did you actually dump this from your machine? Or is this just on of the
archived copies like from the rex documentation wiki pages?



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:41 AM  wrote:

> Here is the ROM image.
>
> Thank you for the test !
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
> *From:* Kurt McCullum 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue
>
> I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard
> 102 rom and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.
>
> Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
>
> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.
>
>
> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the
> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>
>
> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with
> the F3 button and a file name like for example:
>
>
> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>
>
> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion
> of code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>
>
> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>
>
>
>
> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :
>
>
> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>
>
> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>
>
> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>
>
> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>
>
> 4° input 0:test
>
>
> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need
> to power off and on the machine to restart.
>
>
>
>
> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the
> issue can be reproduced.
>
>
>
>
> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem
> or if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Jean – Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

Here is the ROM image.

Thank you for the test !


Jean – Pierre


From: Kurt McCullum 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:26 PM
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com 
Subject: Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 102 rom 
and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.


Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.


Kurt

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:

  Dear all,


   

   
  I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.


   
  The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.


   
  In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the 
F3 button and a file name like for example:


   
  0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.


   
  When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion of 
code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu


   
  PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.


   

   
  An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :


   
  1° activate TS-DOS resident portion


   
  2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100


   
  3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)


   
  3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3


   
  4° input 0:test


   
  => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need to 
power off and on the machine to restart.


   

   
  With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
issue can be reproduced.


   

   
  So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem or 
if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was

  incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?


   

   
  Thank you,


   
  Jean – Pierre


   

   


M102ROM.bin
Description: Binary data

Re: [M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[Kurt McCullum]

I just tried both of these test conditions in Virtual-T with a standard 102 rom 
and TS-DOS 4.1. Neither one hung the emulator.

Is the ROM image for your machine available? I'd be happy to test it.

Kurt

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, at 7:20 AM, jp.van...@belgacom.net wrote:
> Dear all,
>  
>  
> I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.
>  
> The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the 
> resident portion of TS-DOS in RAM.
>  
> In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the 
> F3 button and a file name like for example:
>  
> 0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.
>  
> When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion of 
> code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu
>  
> PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.
>  
>  
> An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :
>  
> 1° activate TS-DOS resident portion
>  
> 2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100
>  
> 3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)
>  
> 3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3
>  
> 4° input 0:test
>  
> => now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need to 
> power off and on the machine to restart.
>  
>  
> With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
> issue can be reproduced.
>  
>  
> So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem or 
> if maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
> incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?
>  
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Jean – Pierre
>  
>  

[M100] M102 TANDY + TS-DOS + TPDD 100k issue

[jp.vanroy]

Dear all,


I am a new owner of a tandy Model 102 and I put him an new REX# from Steve.

The REX# run fine but I encouter a strange problem when I activate the resident 
portion of TS-DOS in RAM.

In fact, when I edit a .DO file in TEXT editor and try to save him with the F3 
button and a file name like for example:

0:test  the TEXT editor crash and I must reset the machine.

When the crash appears, sometime the screen freeze and sometime, a portion of 
code of TELCOM seems to be read because the menu

PREV UP DOWN FULL of TELCOM appears on the bottom of the screen.


An another more radical crash occur when you made the following procedure :

1° activate TS-DOS resident portion

2° in BASIC, run the command SOUND 400, 100

3° exit BASIC with the MENU command (or F8)

3° in TEXT editor, inpur some text and hit F3

4° input 0:test

=> now, all the screen disappears and the reset button don’t work; I need to 
power off and on the machine to restart.


With the help of Steve, I tested an image of my ROM into VIRTUAL T and the 
issue can be reproduced.


So, I wish to ask you if maybe, an owner of a Model 102 know this problem or if 
maybe, it is possible that my ROM image was
incompatible with the version 4 or 4.1 of TS-DOS ?


Thank you,

Jean – Pierre

Re: [M100] WP-2

[Brian K. White]

On 11/16/20 8:36 PM, Brian K. White wrote:


However now it turns out that the exact cap I had on the RAM card is 
now out of stock and no longer stocked, so I'm updating that. [...] 
needing to find a more DIY-friendly diode anyway, the RAM board was 
already getting another update.




I've updated the RAM card with a new cap and diodes. The new cap is in 
stock and more importantly a more common footprint, and the diodes are 
larger, easier to hand-solder, and also a common footprint.
So a future user could substitute equivalent parts as needed without 
needing to change the board any more.


bom & pcb links all updated.

http://tandy.wiki/WP-2
https://github.com/bkw777/WP-2_IC_Card

--
bkw