Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
Brian, At home I have a display and keyboard on the pi but at the office I was totally headless. I am not super familiar with Linux. The pi is my first Linux device ever. I will try to figure out this Getty for the m100. —- Bill Miranda > On Jul 14, 2021, at 5:45 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: > > > HI Bill, > > Glad you got it sorted in the end. A re-install would be my first direction > too. Typically ioctl gets upset for specific reasons, one of them being that > the initiation script for the PI didn't complete on it's first run, another > would depend on how the serial console was setup. > > I'm going to assume a lot from your email, but it sounds like this was > working at home with the M100 but not at work. The only difference would be > you had WiFI connectivity at home is what I'm gathering, so I'm wondering if > you were also SSHing to the Pi from a PC or other device? That would activate > a controlling console (the SSH session) and allow an incorrectly privileged > or configured to work. So maybe that was it? > > I would highly recommend setting up a USB serial port as a getty rather than > letting the configuration scripts place a console on it. That configuration > is OK with the UARTs present on the PI, but they are there always, the USB > devices are added later in the boot so you can get into a race condition > where it doesn't start right. > > I do hope it works for you, I have a blast using my M100 at work. I think my > most favorite time was during some required inservices at work. I knew I was > going to be stuck at a table all day so I wanted to have a good toy to play > with. The M100 is somewhat of a legend where I work, since I am the IT > director. I find that using a 30 year old computer as my daily driver and > being in charge of everyone's technology to really bother people, and I enjoy > that. Added bonus, the required inservice was on "Accepting Change". > > Brian > > >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:33 PM Bill Miranda wrote: >> I started over with a new install of Raspian and that made errors go away at >> home. It will be curious how it works at the office. >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:12 PM Bill Miranda wrote: >>> The errors I am getting are as follows: >>> >>> -bash: cannot set terminal process group (868): Inappropriate ioctl for >>> device >>> -bash: no job control in this shell >>> Then it is not registering all my keystrokes on the Pi connected by the USB >>> serial cable that I got from Retrofloppy.com >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:48 AM Brian Brindle wrote: Hey Bill, Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the wifi network on your phone. To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: sudo wpa_passphrase SSID-of-WiFi-Here >> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit with a tiny screen.) It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. Then issue: sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure This will activate the changes. Hope this helps, Brian > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda > wrote: > Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem > with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and > plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the > terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant > file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but > I get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". > >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the >>
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > Huh. The timing on this is interesting. > > I just started writing a line based text editor; my long term plan is to > run it in Linux, CP/M, and Commodore computers (including the upcoming > Commander X16.) > > If you're interested in trying it on your Pi/Model M setup, I can ping the > list here when it's ready for an initial test (probably a couple of weeks.) > > Hey Tom, that is some pretty cool timing, I would definitely be interested in trying it out. Thanks! Brian
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
HI Bill, Glad you got it sorted in the end. A re-install would be my first direction too. Typically ioctl gets upset for specific reasons, one of them being that the initiation script for the PI didn't complete on it's first run, another would depend on how the serial console was setup. I'm going to assume a lot from your email, but it sounds like this was working at home with the M100 but not at work. The only difference would be you had WiFI connectivity at home is what I'm gathering, so I'm wondering if you were also SSHing to the Pi from a PC or other device? That would activate a controlling console (the SSH session) and allow an incorrectly privileged or configured to work. So maybe that was it? I would highly recommend setting up a USB serial port as a getty rather than letting the configuration scripts place a console on it. That configuration is OK with the UARTs present on the PI, but they are there always, the USB devices are added later in the boot so you can get into a race condition where it doesn't start right. I do hope it works for you, I have a blast using my M100 at work. I think my most favorite time was during some required inservices at work. I knew I was going to be stuck at a table all day so I wanted to have a good toy to play with. The M100 is somewhat of a legend where I work, since I am the IT director. I find that using a 30 year old computer as my daily driver and being in charge of everyone's technology to really bother people, and I enjoy that. Added bonus, the required inservice was on "Accepting Change". Brian On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:33 PM Bill Miranda wrote: > I started over with a new install of Raspian and that made errors go away > at home. It will be curious how it works at the office. > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:12 PM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> The errors I am getting are as follows: >> >> -bash: cannot set terminal process group (868): Inappropriate ioctl for >> device >> -bash: no job control in this shell >> Then it is not registering all my keystrokes on the Pi connected by the >> USB serial cable that I got from Retrofloppy.com >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:48 AM Brian Brindle wrote: >> >>> Hey Bill, >>> >>> Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work >>> without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last >>> character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that >>> can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge >>> from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to >>> either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. >>> >>> When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: >>> *sudo >>> iwlist wlan0 scan *to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work >>> or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it >>> all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit >>> back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with >>> your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the >>> wifi network on your phone. >>> >>> To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: >>> >>> sudo wpa_passphrase *SSID-of-WiFi-Here* >> >>> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the >>> original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit >>> with a tiny screen.) >>> >>> It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will >>> append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. >>> >>> Then issue: >>> sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure >>> >>> This will activate the changes. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda >>> wrote: >>> Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the > systemd changes make me blind with rage. > > If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you > have an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from > the M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. > > Brian > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that >> that I had to go into raspi-config
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
I started over with a new install of Raspian and that made errors go away at home. It will be curious how it works at the office. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:12 PM Bill Miranda wrote: > The errors I am getting are as follows: > > -bash: cannot set terminal process group (868): Inappropriate ioctl for > device > -bash: no job control in this shell > Then it is not registering all my keystrokes on the Pi connected by the > USB serial cable that I got from Retrofloppy.com > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:48 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > >> Hey Bill, >> >> Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work >> without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last >> character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that >> can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge >> from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to >> either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. >> >> When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: >> *sudo >> iwlist wlan0 scan *to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work >> or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it >> all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit >> back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with >> your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the >> wifi network on your phone. >> >> To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: >> >> sudo wpa_passphrase *SSID-of-WiFi-Here* >> >> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the >> original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit >> with a tiny screen.) >> >> It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will >> append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. >> >> Then issue: >> sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure >> >> This will activate the changes. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Brian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda >> wrote: >> >>> Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem >>> with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and >>> plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the >>> terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant >>> file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I >>> get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle >>> wrote: >>> Hi Bill, I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the systemd changes make me blind with rage. If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. Brian On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda wrote: > Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that > that I had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi > would work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi > weren’t installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a > couple changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a > BBS with the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks > again for your response. > > Regards, > Bill Miranda > bill.mira...@gmail.com > > On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: > > > HI Bill, > > The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current > versions of Raspian still have ifconfig... > > I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: > > Get your termcap sorted: > https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml > > You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so > save the cap to a file and install it like so: > > tic > > I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial > adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have > done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos > of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: > http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ > > Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* > to* /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided > you are using ttyUSB0) > > In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust > your baud as you like.) > ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 > > Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* > > Do a
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
The errors I am getting are as follows: -bash: cannot set terminal process group (868): Inappropriate ioctl for device -bash: no job control in this shell Then it is not registering all my keystrokes on the Pi connected by the USB serial cable that I got from Retrofloppy.com On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 3:48 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > Hey Bill, > > Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work > without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last > character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that > can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge > from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to > either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. > > When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: *sudo > iwlist wlan0 scan *to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work > or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it > all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit > back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with > your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the > wifi network on your phone. > > To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: > > sudo wpa_passphrase *SSID-of-WiFi-Here* >> > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the > original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit > with a tiny screen.) > > It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will > append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. > > Then issue: > sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure > > This will activate the changes. > > Hope this helps, > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem >> with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and >> plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the >> terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant >> file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I >> get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". >> >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: >> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the >>> systemd changes make me blind with rage. >>> >>> If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have >>> an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the >>> M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda >>> wrote: >>> Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that that I had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi would work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi weren’t installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a couple changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a BBS with the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks again for your response. Regards, Bill Miranda bill.mira...@gmail.com On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: HI Bill, The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions of Raspian still have ifconfig... I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: Get your termcap sorted: https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save the cap to a file and install it like so: tic I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are using ttyUSB0) In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust your baud as you like.) ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running on the USB port. Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set your TERM to STAT 98N1E and you should be good to go. Lots and lots of customization needed for it to be useful, I'm working on getting my notes
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
Huh. The timing on this is interesting. I just started writing a line based text editor; my long term plan is to run it in Linux, CP/M, and Commodore computers (including the upcoming Commander X16.) If you're interested in trying it on your Pi/Model M setup, I can ping the list here when it's ready for an initial test (probably a couple of weeks.) Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311 On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 2:18 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > Hey Bill, > > Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work > without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last > character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that > can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge > from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to > either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. > > When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: *sudo > iwlist wlan0 scan *to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work > or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it > all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit > back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with > your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the > wifi network on your phone. > > To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: > > sudo wpa_passphrase *SSID-of-WiFi-Here* >> > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the > original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit > with a tiny screen.) > > It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will > append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. > > Then issue: > sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure > > This will activate the changes. > > Hope this helps, > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem >> with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and >> plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the >> terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant >> file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I >> get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". >> >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: >> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the >>> systemd changes make me blind with rage. >>> >>> If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have >>> an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the >>> M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda >>> wrote: >>> Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that that I had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi would work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi weren’t installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a couple changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a BBS with the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks again for your response. Regards, Bill Miranda bill.mira...@gmail.com On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: HI Bill, The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions of Raspian still have ifconfig... I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: Get your termcap sorted: https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save the cap to a file and install it like so: tic I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are using ttyUSB0) In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust your baud as you like.) ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running on the USB port. Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set your TERM to STAT 98N1E and you
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
Hey Bill, Weird, what sort of error is it giving you? That absolutely should work without any issues.. Dumb quesiton, do you have flow control enabled? (Last character on your STAT should be an E to accomplish this.) Sometimes that can cause this. Editing the wpa_supplicant file can be a bit of a challenge from the M100 with a traditional editor.. I do find it easier to either have my wpa_supplicant file pre-loaded, but there are options.. When sitting at your local coffee shop, scan for wireless networks. Run: *sudo iwlist wlan0 scan *to list the nearby networks. Do some fancy grep work or make sure you have your dot-matrix printer at the ready to capture it all. It's gonna scroll across the screen for the next 10 minutes, so sit back and enjoy your coffee, enjoy all the new friends you will make with your dot matrix printer screaming away - or alternatively just look for the wifi network on your phone. To add the config from the M100 and not use an editor: sudo wpa_passphrase *SSID-of-WiFi-Here* >> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf(Always make backups of the original files when on the M100! Easier to copy back than to try and edit with a tiny screen.) It should prompt you for the network password. Enter that and it will append the network to your existing wpa_suplicant.conf file. Then issue: sudo wpa_cli -i wlan0 reconfigure This will activate the changes. Hope this helps, Brian On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM Bill Miranda wrote: > Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem > with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and > plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the > terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant > file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I > get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > >> Hi Bill, >> >> I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the >> systemd changes make me blind with rage. >> >> If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have >> an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the >> M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. >> >> Brian >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that that >>> I had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi would >>> work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi weren’t >>> installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a couple >>> changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a BBS with >>> the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks again for >>> your response. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bill Miranda >>> bill.mira...@gmail.com >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: >>> >>> >>> HI Bill, >>> >>> The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions >>> of Raspian still have ifconfig... >>> >>> I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: >>> >>> Get your termcap sorted: >>> https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml >>> >>> You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save >>> the cap to a file and install it like so: >>> >>> tic >>> >>> I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial >>> adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have >>> done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos >>> of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ >>> >>> Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* >>> /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are >>> using ttyUSB0) >>> >>> In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust >>> your baud as you like.) >>> ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 >>> >>> Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* >>> >>> Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running >>> on the USB port. >>> >>> Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set >>> your TERM to STAT 98N1E and you should be good to go. Lots and lots of >>> customization needed for it to be useful, I'm working on getting my notes >>> together on this and hope to have it somewhere for reference soon. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:09 PM Bill Miranda >>> wrote: >>> Can anyone point me to current instructions on how to configure a Raspberry Pi so that I can connect my M100 as a serial console? I found numerous websites with instructions for older versions of Raspian which were pre-systemd. I was able to get the M100 to connect to the Pi after a lot
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
Brian your response was much appreciated. I am still having a problem with my Pi. I got it working at home but then I took it to the office and plugged it in but I thought I would be able to change the wifi from the terminal connection. No joy. I guess I need to change the wpa supplicant file at home. When I got to the office, the M100 can log into the Pi but I get a bash error with every command, even something simple like "ls". On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 9:43 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the > systemd changes make me blind with rage. > > If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have an > X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the M100 > via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. > > Brian > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that that I >> had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi would >> work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi weren’t >> installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a couple >> changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a BBS with >> the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks again for >> your response. >> >> Regards, >> Bill Miranda >> bill.mira...@gmail.com >> >> On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: >> >> >> HI Bill, >> >> The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions >> of Raspian still have ifconfig... >> >> I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: >> >> Get your termcap sorted: >> https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml >> >> You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save >> the cap to a file and install it like so: >> >> tic >> >> I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial >> adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have >> done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos >> of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ >> >> Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* >> /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are >> using ttyUSB0) >> >> In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust your >> baud as you like.) >> ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 >> >> Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* >> >> Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running >> on the USB port. >> >> Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set your >> TERM to STAT 98N1E and you should be good to go. Lots and lots of >> customization needed for it to be useful, I'm working on getting my notes >> together on this and hope to have it somewhere for reference soon. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Brian >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:09 PM Bill Miranda >> wrote: >> >>> Can anyone point me to current instructions on how to configure a >>> Raspberry Pi so that I can connect my M100 as a serial console? I found >>> numerous websites with instructions for older versions of Raspian which >>> were pre-systemd. I was able to get the M100 to connect to the Pi after a >>> lot of experimenting but I once I login I can’t get anything to work. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bill Miranda >>> bill.mira...@gmail.com >>> >>
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
Hi Bill, I totally missed that you actually had your console working, sorry the systemd changes make me blind with rage. If you are primarily using BBSes X-modem works pretty well, if you have an X-Modem capable term on your M100. You can also send files to/from the M100 via the Linux command line with the sx (send x-modem) command. Brian On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bill Miranda wrote: > Thank you so much! Embarrassingly I discovered my problem was that that I > had to go into raspi-config and designate my country so the WiFi would > work. The packages I was trying to install on my raspberry pi weren’t > installing because no internet. Once I got that sorted and made a couple > changes to configure I was good to go and successfully contacted a BBS with > the setup. Now I need to sort out out to exchange files. Thanks again for > your response. > > Regards, > Bill Miranda > bill.mira...@gmail.com > > On Jul 12, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Brian Brindle wrote: > > > HI Bill, > > The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions of > Raspian still have ifconfig... > > I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: > > Get your termcap sorted: > https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml > > You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save > the cap to a file and install it like so: > > tic > > I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial > adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have > done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos > of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ > > Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* > /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are > using ttyUSB0) > > In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust your > baud as you like.) > ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 > > Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* > > Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running > on the USB port. > > Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set your > TERM to STAT 98N1E and you should be good to go. Lots and lots of > customization needed for it to be useful, I'm working on getting my notes > together on this and hope to have it somewhere for reference soon. > > Hope this helps, > Brian > > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:09 PM Bill Miranda > wrote: > >> Can anyone point me to current instructions on how to configure a >> Raspberry Pi so that I can connect my M100 as a serial console? I found >> numerous websites with instructions for older versions of Raspian which >> were pre-systemd. I was able to get the M100 to connect to the Pi after a >> lot of experimenting but I once I login I can’t get anything to work. >> >> Regards, >> Bill Miranda >> bill.mira...@gmail.com >> >
Re: [M100] M100 as Terminal to Raspberry Pi
HI Bill, The divergence from systemd is frustrating but at last current versions of Raspian still have ifconfig... I'm using Raspian 10 here are my quick and dirty hints: Get your termcap sorted: https://zork.net/~octal/mod100.xhtml You will note that termcap doesn't exist like it should though, so save the cap to a file and install it like so: tic I assume you are going to to the easy route and use a USB to serial adapter. You can use the onboard UART with some level conversion as I have done, but you have to get creative with the hardware. Check out the photos of my M100 hooked to my pi zero here: http://niedobry.com/mod100/tanpi/ Copy the template file */lib/systemd/system/**serial-getty@.service* to* /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service*(Provided you are using ttyUSB0) In [Service] modify the ExecStart line to say the following: (Adjust your baud as you like.) ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -o '-p -- \\u' 19200 %I trs100 Issue *systemctl enable serial-getty@ttyUSB0.service* Do a ps -ax | grep getty and you should now see a getty process running on the USB port. Connect your Model-T with a null modem cable to the serial port, set your TERM to STAT 98N1E and you should be good to go. Lots and lots of customization needed for it to be useful, I'm working on getting my notes together on this and hope to have it somewhere for reference soon. Hope this helps, Brian On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:09 PM Bill Miranda wrote: > Can anyone point me to current instructions on how to configure a > Raspberry Pi so that I can connect my M100 as a serial console? I found > numerous websites with instructions for older versions of Raspian which > were pre-systemd. I was able to get the M100 to connect to the Pi after a > lot of experimenting but I once I login I can’t get anything to work. > > Regards, > Bill Miranda > bill.mira...@gmail.com >
