Re: update, trying to convert pages document
Hello Laurel, I already answered this question for you two days ago but here’s the answer again. To export to the correct format, a VoiceOver user has to interact with each Unknown to hear the name of the format, then bring the mouse and do a VO-Shift-Space bar click to select the format. Cheers, Anne On 16 Nov 2013, at 22:51, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, So, the other day I was trying to convert a pages document to word, using voiceover on my mac. I go to file, then export, then celect word, follow the prompts, save it with a different name, and finish. It saves it as a pages document and will not convert to word. I also tried, as some of you suggested, converting it to rich text as well as pdf. It won't convert my file to anything! I'm extremely frustrated, I'm not sure what to do next. Do you know of any online website that is trustworthy and can convert it for me? Obviously, apple has a problem with this. Thanks Laurel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Draconis - [DoItWrite 1.0 Is Released]
Now this could be the very App I've been looking for, something to allow me to brush up my skills at hand writing so I can make full use of the Hand Writing tool available in IOS 7. http://dracoent.com/vault/doitwrite_10_is_released ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Printing Word Document Correctly.
My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons not relevant here. I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac applications and so far failing miserably. Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out the automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is just leaving it out of the print. TextEdit is similarly unable to cope. Pages is not seeing the table of contents either but I have not tried a print yet to see it actually comes out. Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print Microsoft Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the advance features?. I am using Mountain Lion. Regards David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Hello David, Although VoiceOver can’t see the automatically generated table of contents, it is there and will be printed correctly. If you can find what looks like a highlighted space, press Cmd-c and paste it into a TextEdit document and you’ll see the table of contents. Cheers, Anne On 17 Nov 2013, at 13:20, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons not relevant here. I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac applications and so far failing miserably. Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out the automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is just leaving it out of the print. TextEdit is similarly unable to cope. Pages is not seeing the table of contents either but I have not tried a print yet to see it actually comes out. Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print Microsoft Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the advance features?. I am using Mountain Lion. Regards David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Printing Word Document Correctly.
OK thanks I will try with Pages. It definitely did not print out in Nisus Writer Pro as I had somebody sighted check the print out and the table of contents was missing, not just from the print out but on the screen. The same document when viewed in Word on a PC still has the automated table of contents there. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 17 November 2013 13:41 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly. Hello David, Although VoiceOver can't see the automatically generated table of contents, it is there and will be printed correctly. If you can find what looks like a highlighted space, press Cmd-c and paste it into a TextEdit document and you'll see the table of contents. Cheers, Anne On 17 Nov 2013, at 13:20, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons not relevant here. I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac applications and so far failing miserably. Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out the automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is just leaving it out of the print. TextEdit is similarly unable to cope. Pages is not seeing the table of contents either but I have not tried a print yet to see it actually comes out. Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print Microsoft Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the advance features?. I am using Mountain Lion. Regards David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Have you tried either saving the file as a PDF or re-creating the TOC with either Pages or Nisus Writer? Take are James On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:30, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: OK thanks I will try with Pages. It definitely did not print out in Nisus Writer Pro as I had somebody sighted check the print out and the table of contents was missing, not just from the print out but on the screen. The same document when viewed in Word on a PC still has the automated table of contents there. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 17 November 2013 13:41 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly. Hello David, Although VoiceOver can't see the automatically generated table of contents, it is there and will be printed correctly. If you can find what looks like a highlighted space, press Cmd-c and paste it into a TextEdit document and you'll see the table of contents. Cheers, Anne On 17 Nov 2013, at 13:20, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons not relevant here. I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac applications and so far failing miserably. Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out the automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is just leaving it out of the print. TextEdit is similarly unable to cope. Pages is not seeing the table of contents either but I have not tried a print yet to see it actually comes out. Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print Microsoft Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the advance features?. I am using Mountain Lion. Regards David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to
Re: Draconis - [DoItWrite 1.0 Is Released]
Yeah I heard about it and have heard some very very positive reviews on apple vis about this. this will be my next purchase from the apple store but for now I’m adding it to my wish list. I think that draconus has done a very good thing in coming up with this little tool as I too get to brush up on my hand writing skills. Hmm maybe if I like this app I’ll write a smallish ebook on a method I use to learn hand writing and combine it with the ap, or at least add a link to the app for anyone to try. Take care and be blessed. On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Now this could be the very App I've been looking for, something to allow me to brush up my skills at hand writing so I can make full use of the Hand Writing tool available in IOS 7. http://dracoent.com/vault/doitwrite_10_is_released ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
mavericks: finder fails to refresh.
Hi folks, Apologies if this has been raised before. I’ve noticed an odd thing with the finder. When I have a folder open and add a new file/folder VO doesn’t pick up that it’s there. An example will suffice to illustrate. Let’s say I have downloads open and I have a compressed archive which I need to open/extract. If I press vo-space then the file extracts fine. However, VO does not tell me the file is there. I should say that I am in Column view. Anyone any fixes? Dónal Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks: finder fails to refresh.
Hmm. I’m in list view and have so far been unable to replicate this. The finder refreshes just fine for me. Try list view as that’s much much easier to use in my opinion. Take care. On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi folks, Apologies if this has been raised before. I’ve noticed an odd thing with the finder. When I have a folder open and add a new file/folder VO doesn’t pick up that it’s there. An example will suffice to illustrate. Let’s say I have downloads open and I have a compressed archive which I need to open/extract. If I press vo-space then the file extracts fine. However, VO does not tell me the file is there. I should say that I am in Column view. Anyone any fixes? Dónal Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks: finder fails to refresh.
Hi Zac, Interesting. Neither with the arrow keys on their own, or VO-Arrow keys, the folder doesn’t show up. Dónal On 17 Nov 2013, at 18:10, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I can't duplicate this one. I follow the steps as described, and end up being placed on the extracted folder where the contents of the archive are. I mostly using the arrow keys to navigate, since at the moment adding the VO cursor results and busy signals. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi folks, Apologies if this has been raised before. I’ve noticed an odd thing with the finder. When I have a folder open and add a new file/folder VO doesn’t pick up that it’s there. An example will suffice to illustrate. Let’s say I have downloads open and I have a compressed archive which I need to open/extract. If I press vo-space then the file extracts fine. However, VO does not tell me the file is there. I should say that I am in Column view. Anyone any fixes? Dónal Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing
Re: mavericks: finder fails to refresh.
Hi Sarah, *smile* I’ll agree to differ with you on listview. I love being able just to flick right on a folder and open it. Still, each to their own. Dónal On 17 Nov 2013, at 18:12, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I’m in list view and have so far been unable to replicate this. The finder refreshes just fine for me. Try list view as that’s much much easier to use in my opinion. Take care. On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi folks, Apologies if this has been raised before. I’ve noticed an odd thing with the finder. When I have a folder open and add a new file/folder VO doesn’t pick up that it’s there. An example will suffice to illustrate. Let’s say I have downloads open and I have a compressed archive which I need to open/extract. If I press vo-space then the file extracts fine. However, VO does not tell me the file is there. I should say that I am in Column view. Anyone any fixes? Dónal Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---
RE: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Thanks for suggestion. There are about 40 items in the table of contents which I did not fancy recreating. I also discovered on the web that apparently there are lots of problems associated with trying to use an automated table of contents created by Word on the Mac when converting to PDF format. I thought I may be going out of the frying pan into the fire. In the end I unearthed an old windows Netbook and hooked my printer on to that. The document has apparently now printed out completely and correctly with everything where it should be. Unfortunately my Fusion is unusable at the moment so I need to get that sorted to prevent these kinds of problems in the future. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of JAMES AUSTIN Sent: 17 November 2013 17:39 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly. Have you tried either saving the file as a PDF or re-creating the TOC with either Pages or Nisus Writer? Take are James On 17 Nov 2013, at 14:30, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: OK thanks I will try with Pages. It definitely did not print out in Nisus Writer Pro as I had somebody sighted check the print out and the table of contents was missing, not just from the print out but on the screen. The same document when viewed in Word on a PC still has the automated table of contents there. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: 17 November 2013 13:41 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly. Hello David, Although VoiceOver can't see the automatically generated table of contents, it is there and will be printed correctly. If you can find what looks like a highlighted space, press Cmd-c and paste it into a TextEdit document and you'll see the table of contents. Cheers, Anne On 17 Nov 2013, at 13:20, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: My Fusion on the Mac is not working for reasons not relevant here. I am therefore trying to Print out a book submission using native mac applications and so far failing miserably. Nisus Writer Pro for example is completely unable to detect or print out the automatic table of contents page generated by Microsoft Word 2010 , and is just leaving it out of the print. TextEdit is similarly unable to cope. Pages is not seeing the table of contents either but I have not tried a print yet to see it actually comes out. Does anybody know of an accessible Mac application that can print Microsoft Office Document correctly with all features rather than stripping out the advance features?. I am using Mountain Lion. Regards David Griffith --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Hi David, In the off chance Anne’s suggestion doesn’t produce the desired results, you might consider trying the sledgehammer approach AKA install MS Office for Mac. While MS Office 2011 for Mac does not provide the ability to view or edit Word documents, the menu bar and printing functions in Office 2011 Mac are VO accessible, and, interestingly, the print preview thumbnails displayed within the print dialog box are also somewhat VO accessible. For complex DOC or DOCX files, it might be a workable solution if cross-platform maintenance of formatting is critical and if printing, rather than reviewing or editing, is the goal. I’ve found I can open a Word document in Word 2011, press Command+P to open the Print dialog box, and access all available print options by using standard VO navigation keys to move through the print dialog. VO will also read the page currently displayed in the print preview thumbnail, and I can even interact with that thumbnail and navigate through it. Make sure the “Copies Pages” item is selected in the popup menu, and make sure the checkbox labeled “Show Quick Preview” is ticked. Here in the US, MS offers a trial download with a number of setup options as listed below. I’m guessing similar options are available outside of the US. A web search for mac office 2011 trial download turns up several official Microsoft sites hosting the download links. The install process is fully VO accessible. Upon first launch of any of the Office apps the User is presented with VO-accessible dialogs, one of which ass how you would like to run Office. The options go something like this: 1. Insert a license key. 2. Sign into an existing Office 365 subscription. 3. Run as fully functioning 30 day demo. 4. Run permanently as a document viewer without editing capabilities. HTH, Bryan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: OK thanks I will try with Pages. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Thanks. This is very useful and helpful. I will take this advice and install office in document reading mode for the next time I have to do this. Theoretically it should solve any printing problems in the future. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Jones Sent: 17 November 2013 19:07 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Printing Word Document Correctly. Hi David, In the off chance Anne's suggestion doesn't produce the desired results, you might consider trying the sledgehammer approach AKA install MS Office for Mac. While MS Office 2011 for Mac does not provide the ability to view or edit Word documents, the menu bar and printing functions in Office 2011 Mac are VO accessible, and, interestingly, the print preview thumbnails displayed within the print dialog box are also somewhat VO accessible. For complex DOC or DOCX files, it might be a workable solution if cross-platform maintenance of formatting is critical and if printing, rather than reviewing or editing, is the goal. I've found I can open a Word document in Word 2011, press Command+P to open the Print dialog box, and access all available print options by using standard VO navigation keys to move through the print dialog. VO will also read the page currently displayed in the print preview thumbnail, and I can even interact with that thumbnail and navigate through it. Make sure the Copies Pages item is selected in the popup menu, and make sure the checkbox labeled Show Quick Preview is ticked. Here in the US, MS offers a trial download with a number of setup options as listed below. I'm guessing similar options are available outside of the US. A web search for mac office 2011 trial download turns up several official Microsoft sites hosting the download links. The install process is fully VO accessible. Upon first launch of any of the Office apps the User is presented with VO-accessible dialogs, one of which ass how you would like to run Office. The options go something like this: 1. Insert a license key. 2. Sign into an existing Office 365 subscription. 3. Run as fully functioning 30 day demo. 4. Run permanently as a document viewer without editing capabilities. HTH, Bryan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: OK thanks I will try with Pages. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks: finder fails to refresh.
Hi Donal On 17 Nov 2013, at 18:14, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Interesting. Neither with the arrow keys on their own, or VO-Arrow keys, the folder doesn’t show up. A long shot, but could the extracted folder have somehow become hidden? Does it appear in Terminal if ls is used? Take care James --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
List Recorder feature requests
Hi Listers, Recently A new List Recorder update came out and addressed issues with iOS 7. This would be a great time to suggest features or improvements for this application. If you have suggestions or ideas for new features or improvements please share your ideas. For those who might not be familiar with List Recorder it is a application designed to work with VoiceOver. It can serve many uses from being a simple quick recorder to a very deeply organized system to store and find both recordings and written notes. It is one of the apps I use the most as I have a great deal of recordings carefully organized. This is where I find my grocery list and other store lists. It is also where my to do list for work is kept. I have lists with descriptions of electronics and appliances and other lists with recipes. It can hold class lectures or other long meetings. The uses are rather flexible and people use it for all kinds of tasks. On my wish list is iCloud integration to use it on more then one device. What improvements or features would you like to see? Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Strong's Concordance / OS,iOS
Hello, I see that the iOS and OS app stores have Strong’s Concordance. I am so tempted to purhcase this, but $10 US is a pretty steep price to pay since I don’t know if it’s accessible. Has anyone tried this app or know of anyone who has? I would kill for a Concordance, and I’d really love it if it could be Strong’s. Thanks for any thoughts, Shannon Reece --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
VO+shift+d not working in Mavericks - Why?
Hi all, Since I’ve switched to Mavericks, I haven’t been able to use the “jgoto desktop” hotkey which is VO+shift+D. Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a workaround (aside from command-tabbing to Finder)? Thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VO+shift+d not working in Mavericks - Why?
I've noticed this as well. Looks like a bug apple needs to fix. Let's hope they can soon. Tc. On Nov 17, 2013, at 22:48, Parham Doustdar parha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Since I’ve switched to Mavericks, I haven’t been able to use the “jgoto desktop” hotkey which is VO+shift+D. Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a workaround (aside from command-tabbing to Finder)? Thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
