Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Sean Murphy
Anne,


Thanks for that. I thought that was the case. Since if you are editing 
documents or programming. Not knowing the indent is something that is very hard 
on the author. There are workarounds of course, but they are not very effective 
and interrupt your workflow.

Sean 
 On 6 Jun 2015, at 5:26 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Sean,
 
 On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:54, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au 
 mailto:smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?
 
 This is problematic. VO-F4-F4 will give you the position of the insertion 
 point but this is its visual position on the screen. If you set the zoom to 
 200% the information won’t be dreadfully inaccurate, but it won’t be precise 
 either. I’ve been complaining to Apple about this for several years.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 



Re: [Mac-Access]: Detecting colour on the Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sean,

 On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:54, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 Also how do you detect the position of the cursor from the left side of the 
 screen in an application? Is this application dependent?

This is problematic. VO-F4-F4 will give you the position of the insertion point 
but this is its visual position on the screen. If you set the zoom to 200% the 
information won’t be dreadfully inaccurate, but it won’t be precise either. 
I’ve been complaining to Apple about this for several years.

Cheers,

Anne



[Mac-Access]: pages question

2015-06-06 Thread Ismael Herrera
greetings every one!
Does anyone on the list have a list of PAGES keystrokes?  




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Re: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in the US and UK

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'll give it a try, but first I'm gonna have to find someone who's willing 
to let me call 'em.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:42 PM
Subject: [Mac-Access]: Skype for Web (Beta) is now available to everyone in 
the US and UK



Link is below. I'm not going to be testing this as I'm going to be busy, but 
hopefuly someone can and will test for accessibility under the mac platform 
and see if it is accessible. This would be good if I were on antohr machine 
with out skype, or what not. Enjoy.



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SkypeGarage/~3/Jac1eThzwLk/

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Re: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Huge sigh...

Don't remove me for now.  We'll see how things go, but I do expect going 
forward for things to hopefully run more smoothely.  Thank you for finally 
looking into this.  It's a shame that so many people had to get on you about 
this, before anything was done, but as long as you're at this point willing to 
step up and really truely try getting things back together, I'm willing to give 
things one, and one? only! final chance.

I'm sorry for being so hard on ya, but as a system server administrator myself, 
you can hopefully to some degree understand why I was so.  In your defense, 
Voiceover not reading those edit boxes could certainly be an issue, and if 
indeed it can add people multiple times, therefore sending out multiple e-mail 
copies, then boy oh boy!  That's a bug that really! needs to be addressed, 
like, yesterday!

As I said, I'll stay for now, but I genuinely trust this isn't going to 
hopefully happen again in the foreseeable future.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Smith 
  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:36 AM
  Subject: [Mac-Access]: message from the list owner, please read


  Hello everybody


  I’d just like to give you an explanation as to why some of you have had 
difficulty unsubscribing from the group.  Firstly, please understand that this 
was in no way a deliberate act on my part.


  When I was configuring the list, VoiceOver did not reveal the refreshed edit 
boxes when I added your addresses.  Therefore, I thought that they hadn’t 
actually been added, so I added them again.  This happened twice before the 
boxes’ contents were displayed to me, and I thought that the job was done.


  However, unbeknown to me, the addresses were added three times over.  This is 
why you’ve had difficulty and in some cases have received multiple copies of 
the messages.


  Please accept my most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.  I am 
modifying the list as I speak, so that each member is only subscribed once.  I 
am also taking out those addresses whose owners have requested that I do so.


  Those who have written to me threatening reprisals, (and there have been 3 of 
those), please know that I am removing you as you requested.


  I acknowledge though that this shouldn’t have happened.  There should be 
error-trapping within the software to prevent it.  I am taking this up with the 
developers.  But I am also working urgently to address the issue.


  Those of you who do wish to remain on the list, please don’t worry if you get 
repeated welcome messages.  If you get a message asking whether you want to 
join or not, then that is at your discretion.


  I am also taking steps to restore the support address so that these issues 
can be separated once again from my own inbox.


  


  My compliments and kindest regards
  Gordon Smith:
  gor...@mac-access.net


  Accessibility  Information Technology Support Specialist.


  








Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know, I never actually thought of that, but the first one of those is 
probably where it came from.  Who knows.  That isn't the point though.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?


Just curious, what does the H stand for in Jesus H Christ?
Holy?
Hector?
Hubba hubba?

Sent from my IPhone


On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! 
You're here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox 
just to write a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can 
you not take some courticy and write the individual off list who asked 
rather than clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense 
whatsoever intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: wui chin Leong 
adrianleon...@icloud.com

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?



so am i too


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[Mac-Access]: Disabling preview pane in mac mail

2015-06-06 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, can anyone remind me how to turn off the message preview in Mac mail, 
here is what I have tried without success:
Find the splitter between the message table and preview and interact
bring it down to zero
use vo command f5 to move the mouse pointer
tap the track pad

Any help would be appreciated
Frank

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