Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Bryan - Very kind of you to do this for me. Your findings are interesting; I don't really understand how or what Java is/does, but could certainly give turnig it off a go when experiencing difficulties. I've just heard back from Hadley's IT guy, and he now says that he recognises that there is a coding issue on the field I referred to, namely Do you read uncontracted Braille. He says he isn't a coding man, but will get somebody to look in to it that is. I think the fact that your experience has highlighted other anomalies flags up Hadley's need to look again at how they present their website for the people they are there to serve, who are not only Windows users. Thanks again, and if you can shed any light on what Java's purpose is, I'd appreciate that - Andy On 3 Jun 2014, at 21:47, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy, On my 2013 MBA running OS 10.9, neither Safari 7.0.4 nor Chrome 35 went into a busy state when navigating through those pages or the specific item you mentioned; however, I did encounter a number of other smaller issues during the process, including unlabeled popup buttons and fields that were completely skipped during normal VO+Right Arrow and/or Tab navigation. I won’t even bother to embarrass myself with a guess as to why these issues exist; However, I did get some better results when I turned off Javascript in Safari Preferences / Security, and then restarted Safari before working my way through the Hadley enrollment application again. I know this might not address the specific issue you are encountering, but perhaps toggling javascript on or off in your browser might help with your issue. Once Javascript was turned off, I was able to use a combination of VO+Arrows, Tab, and the Web Rotor to identify all of the elements that were previously not being spoken. For reference, here are a couple of specific issues I encountered while Javascript was enabled: 1. Using VO+Right Arrow to move through items, VO skips over the Braille questions, hopping from “Select your highest level of education” to a link labeled “Enroll.” 2. When I attempt to navigate this same sequence using the Tab key, I do find the Braille questions, but still, the first Braille question is simply announced as “popup button” with no label or descriptive text attached. 3. When I uncheck “Skip redundant labels” in the VO Utility, I had an easier albeit terribly verbose experience finding associated field and popup labels. HTH, Bryan On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: I go to www.hadley.edu And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol link. Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education etc. It also asks Do you read uncontracted Braille and as soon as VO reads this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, will be on that second page of required information. Thanks - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive
Re: Firefox on the Mac
No it doesn't - Firefox and the Mac from my recent experience, is a relationship that hasn't got off the ground yet - Andy On 3 Jun 2014, at 04:46, Marybeth Metzger mmetzg...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Hitting the escape key in Firefox stops the busy message on a Windows computer. I don't know if this will work on a Mac, but it may be worth trying. Mary Beth Metzger -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:19 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Bryan - I go to www.hadley.edu And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol link. Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education etc. It also asks Do you read uncontracted Braille and as soon as VO reads this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, will be on that second page of required information. Thanks - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Andy, On my 2013 MBA running OS 10.9, neither Safari 7.0.4 nor Chrome 35 went into a busy state when navigating through those pages or the specific item you mentioned; however, I did encounter a number of other smaller issues during the process, including unlabeled popup buttons and fields that were completely skipped during normal VO+Right Arrow and/or Tab navigation. I won’t even bother to embarrass myself with a guess as to why these issues exist; However, I did get some better results when I turned off Javascript in Safari Preferences / Security, and then restarted Safari before working my way through the Hadley enrollment application again. I know this might not address the specific issue you are encountering, but perhaps toggling javascript on or off in your browser might help with your issue. Once Javascript was turned off, I was able to use a combination of VO+Arrows, Tab, and the Web Rotor to identify all of the elements that were previously not being spoken. For reference, here are a couple of specific issues I encountered while Javascript was enabled: 1. Using VO+Right Arrow to move through items, VO skips over the Braille questions, hopping from “Select your highest level of education” to a link labeled “Enroll.” 2. When I attempt to navigate this same sequence using the Tab key, I do find the Braille questions, but still, the first Braille question is simply announced as “popup button” with no label or descriptive text attached. 3. When I uncheck “Skip redundant labels” in the VO Utility, I had an easier albeit terribly verbose experience finding associated field and popup labels. HTH, Bryan On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: I go to www.hadley.edu And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol link. Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education etc. It also asks Do you read uncontracted Braille and as soon as VO reads this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, will be on that second page of required information. Thanks - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot
Re: Firefox on the Mac
So, I'm curious. Has Firefrox gotten any better? I know it had improved a fair amount but still went busy fairly often. Has this been rectified, or is it still not the greatest. Chris. Make $50.00 minimum every day starting in the next 24 hours! Want to learn how? Visit: http://www.homejobsuccess.ws and fill out your contact info, so that I may get back with you to provide more information promptly. - Original Message - From: Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Firefox on the Mac Hi Bryan - I go to www.hadley.edu And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol link. Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education etc. It also asks Do you read uncontracted Braille and as soon as VO reads this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, will be on that second page of required information. Thanks - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum
Firefox on the Mac
Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Firefox on the Mac
I have not tried Firefox under Mavericks but when tried it under ML it was unusable because of constant busy messaging. As far as I am aware the only other accessible Mac browser is a text based one called Lightning which may not help as it sounds like there is some odd code on this page which a text browser would find hard to interpret.t. It is odd that a web site from this organisation of all organisations should be providing an access barrier to industry standard browsers. It sounds like that they have been very narrow in their focus in assuming that all their students would use a Windows platform. The commitment to accessibility with Apple was hard won so our organisations should respect and support this commitment as well. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: 02 June 2014 19:19 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
David, I totally agree regarding the commitment of organisations to accessibility. This is why I was particularly disappointed with the IT guy from Hadley, suggesting I used Firefox instead of Safari; it seems he is aware of their website having issues under Safari, but not with his recommended solution, Firefox! - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 19:57, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I have not tried Firefox under Mavericks but when tried it under ML it was unusable because of constant busy messaging. As far as I am aware the only other accessible Mac browser is a text based one called Lightning which may not help as it sounds like there is some odd code on this page which a text browser would find hard to interpret.t. It is odd that a web site from this organisation of all organisations should be providing an access barrier to industry standard browsers. It sounds like that they have been very narrow in their focus in assuming that all their students would use a Windows platform. The commitment to accessibility with Apple was hard won so our organisations should respect and support this commitment as well. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: 02 June 2014 19:19 To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi, Last time I tried ff on the mac it was not accessible. If you have windows around you could try it there and see if it works better for you. Matthew On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
I use lightning a lot actually and it's accessible 100 percent, a bit faster then safari. You could perhaps try the hadley site on it and see if it wirks. good luck and yeah I did talk to the firefox team again about accessibility and they said they would work on it, 2 years ago. On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:56 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dy...@icloud.com wrote: Hi, Last time I tried ff on the mac it was not accessible. If you have windows around you could try it there and see if it works better for you. Matthew On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Firefox on the Mac
Hitting the escape key in Firefox stops the busy message on a Windows computer. I don't know if this will work on a Mac, but it may be worth trying. Mary Beth Metzger -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:19 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: Firefox on the Mac
I don't know about Firefox on a Mac, but hitting the escape key when Firefox is locked in busy mode works on a Windows computer. Mary Beth Metzger -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:19 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Well now that firefox relys on your dragging a hand to change settings and all of that stuff, or at least it did when I last tried it, I don't think it will ever be made accessible. I did w speak to them but I really dunno when they will try to make it accessible again. Shame as tha'ts a very good browser. On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Marybeth Metzger mmetzg...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Hitting the escape key in Firefox stops the busy message on a Windows computer. I don't know if this will work on a Mac, but it may be worth trying. Mary Beth Metzger -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:19 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Firefox on the Mac Hi all - I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - Andy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
