Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-31 Thread Gordon Smith
I thought this might be helpful to some.  To the best of my knowledge it is 
accurate.
http://blog.mac-ios-access.net/2013/07/31/creating-a-mac-os-x-installation-dvd-or-usb-key-2/

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On 29 Jul 2013, at 23:42, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by Don 
 Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's a 
 link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
 Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
 bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They 
 include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did 
 this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have 
 for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 09:28, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 It probably can, but it will try and make you use disk utility.  I really 
 don't' like this method as for me its way too complex. I use lion disk 
 maker which is a free app that can do this and does do this well.
 
 You will need at most an 8 gig flash drive, for now. We'll see about 
 mavrics when that comes out as I plan on upgrading that same 8 gig flash 
 drive I have. I believe you can find Lion Disk Maker  at 
 http://macupdate.com
 
 The  program is dead simple to use and takes about 40 minutes to make the 
 bootable key. at least for me. lol!
 Good luck.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Andy Collins wrote:
 
 Sarah - Thanks for this clarification. Perhaps I'd better look in to this 
 then. Can the how to, be found on the main Apple website? -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making 
 usb key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take 
 between 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to 
 install.
 
 Take care.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-31 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

On 30 Jul 2013, at 21:06, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 Is a thunderbolt adapter one that has a standard rj45 on the other end, that 
 goes in to the router? -
 
Yes, that's the one.

Cheers,

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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

You might find it useful to buy a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor for your MBA 
so that you aren't solely dependent on wi-fi.

Cheers,

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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-30 Thread Gordon Smith
Andy

You can find our blog here:
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We haven't had time to update it recently but plan to do so shortly.

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On 29 Jul 2013, at 22:36, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Gordon - I would find that blog most helpful I'm sure, and imagine so would 
 others. 
 
 I'd be interested to read what is already available there, so if you can let 
 me have the address details, that'd be great -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 20:33, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 May I just point out that the MacBook Air doe snot have an Ethernet port. 
 The only kind of network interface is, therefore, WiFi and, if you possess 
 such a thing as a BlueTooth dongle or modem, you could do it that way. 
 Otherwise, the USB stick is the only way. Creating a boot image is very easy 
 but I guess it's only fair to say that the new user might find the process 
 daunting.
 
 I would be happy to write an article for our blog on this if anybody thinks 
 it would be of help?
 
 Kind regards
 
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 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take 
 between 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to 
 install.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to 
 those suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm 
 hoping I never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble 
 strikes. Will I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think 
 why I might?  -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
 seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition 
 should boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest 
 should be self explanatory but if not please ask for further help.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-30 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne - Is a thunderbolt adapter one that has a standard rj45 on the other 
end, that goes in to the router? -

Andy
On 30 Jul 2013, at 08:36, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 You might find it useful to buy a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor for your 
 MBA so that you aren't solely dependent on wi-fi.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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RE: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-30 Thread wayne17a
Hello, Gordon that would be good for us newbees 

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:34 PM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

May I just point out that the MacBook Air doe snot have an Ethernet port.
The only kind of network interface is, therefore, WiFi and, if you possess
such a thing as a BlueTooth dongle or modem, you could do it that way.
Otherwise, the USB stick is the only way. Creating a boot image is very easy
but I guess it's only fair to say that the new user might find the process
daunting.

I would be happy to write an article for our blog on this if anybody thinks
it would be of help?

Kind regards

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On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb
key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between
2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com
wrote:
 
 Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to
those suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm
hoping I never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble
strikes. Will I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think
why I might?  -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30
seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition should
boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest should be self
explanatory but if not please ask for further help.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

First of all, no Macs come with boot disks anymore. That ended with the arrival 
of the Appstore, much to my regret.

All Macs running Lion or later have a recovery partition which is where you go 
to reinstall the system. Alternatively, you can download the OS again and make 
a bootable USB key, which is what I always do so that I can do a clean install 
without being obliged to connect to the internet via ethernet to ensure a 
reliable connection.

You can find information online about creating a bootable USB key.

Cheers,

Anne


On 29 Jul 2013, at 18:05, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 hi all -
 
 No panics here, Im not in need of doing this, but need to be prepared, just 
 in case one day…
 
 As most will know, the MacBooks do not have a cd/dvd drive, and therefore do 
 not come with a back up disk. So, how do we go about reinstalling the OS in 
 an emergency? Is there something built-in for doing the same as a boot from a 
 disc? -
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What I do is I use lion disk maker to make a bootable usb key as they call it. 
It's actually pretty easy but make sure you have the partition as a guid 
partition first.  I also can use CCC to do the same thing so both tools for me 
work very well. The advantage is you can keep your lion or mount ion lion flash 
drive uo date and it's very fast to boot up in to that recovery consul. 

Tc and be blessed.
On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Andy,
 
 First of all, no Macs come with boot disks anymore. That ended with the 
 arrival of the Appstore, much to my regret.
 
 All Macs running Lion or later have a recovery partition which is where you 
 go to reinstall the system. Alternatively, you can download the OS again and 
 make a bootable USB key, which is what I always do so that I can do a clean 
 install without being obliged to connect to the internet via ethernet to 
 ensure a reliable connection.
 
 You can find information online about creating a bootable USB key.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 18:05, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 hi all -
 
 No panics here, Im not in need of doing this, but need to be prepared, just 
 in case one day…
 
 As most will know, the MacBooks do not have a cd/dvd drive, and therefore do 
 not come with a back up disk. So, how do we go about reinstalling the OS in 
 an emergency? Is there something built-in for doing the same as a boot from 
 a disc? -
 
 Andy
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Chris H
Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition 
should boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest 
should be self explanatory but if not please ask for further help.


On 29/07/2013 17:05, Andy Collins wrote:

hi all -

No panics here, Im not in need of doing this, but need to be prepared, just in 
case one day…

As most will know, the MacBooks do not have a cd/dvd drive, and therefore do 
not come with a back up disk. So, how do we go about reinstalling the OS in an 
emergency? Is there something built-in for doing the same as a boot from a 
disc? -

Andy
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Andy Collins
Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to those 
suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm hoping I 
never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble strikes. Will 
I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think why I might?  -

Andy
On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
 seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition should 
 boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest should be self 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb key 
for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between 2 and 
6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.

Take care.
On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to those 
 suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm hoping I 
 never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble strikes. 
 Will I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think why I 
 might?  -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
 seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition should 
 boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest should be self 
 explanatory but if not please ask for further help.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Andy Collins
Sarah - Thanks for this clarification. Perhaps I'd better look in to this then. 
Can the how to, be found on the main Apple website? -

Andy
On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between 
 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.
 
 Take care.
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It probably can, but it will try and make you use disk utility.  I really 
don't' like this method as for me its way too complex. I use lion disk maker 
which is a free app that can do this and does do this well.

You will need at most an 8 gig flash drive, for now. We'll see about mavrics 
when that comes out as I plan on upgrading that same 8 gig flash drive I have. 
I believe you can find Lion Disk Maker  at http://macupdate.com

The  program is dead simple to use and takes about 40 minutes to make the 
bootable key. at least for me. lol!
Good luck.
On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Sarah - Thanks for this clarification. Perhaps I'd better look in to this 
 then. Can the how to, be found on the main Apple website? -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between 
 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.
 
 Take care.
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Gordon Smith
May I just point out that the MacBook Air doe snot have an Ethernet port. The 
only kind of network interface is, therefore, WiFi and, if you possess such a 
thing as a BlueTooth dongle or modem, you could do it that way. Otherwise, the 
USB stick is the only way. Creating a boot image is very easy but I guess it's 
only fair to say that the new user might find the process daunting.

I would be happy to write an article for our blog on this if anybody thinks it 
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On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between 
 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to those 
 suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm hoping I 
 never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble strikes. 
 Will I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think why I 
 might?  -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
 seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition should 
 boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest should be 
 self explanatory but if not please ask for further help.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Chris H
Andy yes, as Apple needs to verify it's you who will be reinstalling the 
Os. The Usb key sounds the way forward though as it sounds like no 
connection is required since you are burning the operating system image 
to a Usb key.


On 29/07/2013 19:56, Andy Collins wrote:

Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to those 
suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm hoping I 
never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble strikes. Will 
I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think why I might?  -

Andy
On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition should 
boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest should be self 
explanatory but if not please ask for further help.


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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Esther
Hi Andy,

A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by Don 
Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's a 
link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html

The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in English):
http://liondiskmaker.com/

Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They include 
using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did this for 
Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have for doing 
backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.

At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 29 Jul 2013, at 09:28, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

 It probably can, but it will try and make you use disk utility.  I really 
 don't' like this method as for me its way too complex. I use lion disk maker 
 which is a free app that can do this and does do this well.
 
 You will need at most an 8 gig flash drive, for now. We'll see about mavrics 
 when that comes out as I plan on upgrading that same 8 gig flash drive I 
 have. I believe you can find Lion Disk Maker  at http://macupdate.com
 
 The  program is dead simple to use and takes about 40 minutes to make the 
 bootable key. at least for me. lol!
 Good luck.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Andy Collins wrote:
 
 Sarah - Thanks for this clarification. Perhaps I'd better look in to this 
 then. Can the how to, be found on the main Apple website? -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take 
 between 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to 
 install.
 
 Take care.

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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Andy Collins
Gordon - I would find that blog most helpful I'm sure, and imagine so would 
others. 

I'd be interested to read what is already available there, so if you can let me 
have the address details, that'd be great -

Andy
On 29 Jul 2013, at 20:33, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 May I just point out that the MacBook Air doe snot have an Ethernet port. The 
 only kind of network interface is, therefore, WiFi and, if you possess such a 
 thing as a BlueTooth dongle or modem, you could do it that way. Otherwise, 
 the USB stick is the only way. Creating a boot image is very easy but I guess 
 it's only fair to say that the new user might find the process daunting.
 
 I would be happy to write an article for our blog on this if anybody thinks 
 it would be of help?
 
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 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take between 
 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to install.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Chris - this sounds the most strait forward method as appose to 
 those suggested by Anne and Sarah, [I thank both for their input too] I'm 
 hoping I never need to do this, but do need to know what to do if trouble 
 strikes. Will I need an internet connection for a reinstall, I can't think 
 why I might?  -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:17, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Andy, when you hear the startup chime hold down command r for at most 30 
 seconds, might be much less on an Air though. The recovery partition 
 should boot up and you can start VoiceOver with command f5. The rest 
 should be self explanatory but if not please ask for further help.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Josh Gregory
Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  ago.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by Don 
 Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's a 
 link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
 Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
 bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They 
 include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did 
 this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have 
 for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 09:28, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 It probably can, but it will try and make you use disk utility.  I really 
 don't' like this method as for me its way too complex. I use lion disk maker 
 which is a free app that can do this and does do this well.
 
 You will need at most an 8 gig flash drive, for now. We'll see about mavrics 
 when that comes out as I plan on upgrading that same 8 gig flash drive I 
 have. I believe you can find Lion Disk Maker  at http://macupdate.com
 
 The  program is dead simple to use and takes about 40 minutes to make the 
 bootable key. at least for me. lol!
 Good luck.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Andy Collins wrote:
 
 Sarah - Thanks for this clarification. Perhaps I'd better look in to this 
 then. Can the how to, be found on the main Apple website? -
 
 Andy
 On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:58, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 You will need an internet connection hence wy we are suggestion making usb 
 key for your mb air. It will depending on your connection speed take 
 between 2 and 6 hours to download all 4 gigs of the thing it uses to 
 install.
 
 Take care.
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
lol. Yeah I hope the dev will update this for when mavrics comes out. I 
personally use both ccc and lion disk maker and both work. I love lion disk 
maker because of the sound it makes when the usb key is done being made.  In 
reading the rest of ester's message he is working on a new version so yeah I 
can't wait. I keep meaning to review it on my podcast but I keep forgetting 
because classes get in the way and those come first.

Good luck all and be blessed.
On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by Don 
 Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's a 
 link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
 Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
 bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They 
 include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did 
 this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have 
 for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther

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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Josh Gregory
No I definitely agree, but if I'd known this was a free thing I would've gotten 
it a while ago.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 lol. Yeah I hope the dev will update this for when mavrics comes out. I 
 personally use both ccc and lion disk maker and both work. I love lion disk 
 maker because of the sound it makes when the usb key is done being made.  In 
 reading the rest of ester's message he is working on a new version so yeah I 
 can't wait. I keep meaning to review it on my podcast but I keep forgetting 
 because classes get in the way and those come first.
 
 Good luck all and be blessed.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by Don 
 Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's a 
 link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
 Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
 bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They 
 include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did 
 this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have 
 for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Yeah I have had this for a while now, I think when it first came out when lion 
was released or something. I dunno. But it was recommended to me by another mac 
user not on this list. lol!  or maybe I found it via google one day. lol!

Anyway take care and be blessed.
On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 No I definitely agree, but if I'd known this was a free thing I would've 
 gotten it a while ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 lol. Yeah I hope the dev will update this for when mavrics comes out. I 
 personally use both ccc and lion disk maker and both work. I love lion disk 
 maker because of the sound it makes when the usb key is done being made.  In 
 reading the rest of ester's message he is working on a new version so yeah I 
 can't wait. I keep meaning to review it on my podcast but I keep forgetting 
 because classes get in the way and those come first.
 
 Good luck all and be blessed.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by 
 Don Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's 
 a link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in 
 English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software (as 
 Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to make a 
 bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  They 
 include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. I did 
 this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app I have 
 for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
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Re: Re-installing the OS on a MacBook Air

2013-07-29 Thread Josh Gregory
Yeah, the disk utility  Way looks complicated. Lol.

 Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah I have had this for a while now, I think when it first came out when 
 lion was released or something. I dunno. But it was recommended to me by 
 another mac user not on this list. lol!  or maybe I found it via google one 
 day. lol!
 
 Anyway take care and be blessed.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No I definitely agree, but if I'd known this was a free thing I would've 
 gotten it a while ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 lol. Yeah I hope the dev will update this for when mavrics comes out. I 
 personally use both ccc and lion disk maker and both work. I love lion disk 
 maker because of the sound it makes when the usb key is done being made.  
 In reading the rest of ester's message he is working on a new version so 
 yeah I can't wait. I keep meaning to review it on my podcast but I keep 
 forgetting because classes get in the way and those come first.
 
 Good luck all and be blessed.
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why did I not know this is free, if I had I would've gotten  This ages  
 ago.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 A quick search of the list archives brought up this MacWorld article by 
 Don Frakes, How to make a bootable Mountain Lion install drive
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1167857/how_to_make_a_bootable_mountain_lion_install_drive.html
 At the time a new version of Lion Disk Maker hadn't come out, but there's 
 a link to an older MacWorld article that describes how this works: Lion 
 DiskMaker makes it easier to create a bootable Lion installer
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1166702/lion_diskmaker_makes_it_easier_to_create_a_bootable_lion_installer.html
 
 The developer now has a dedicated web page for Lion Disk Maker (in 
 English):
 http://liondiskmaker.com/
 
 Otherwise, in general we usually check the macupdate site for software 
 (as Sarah mentioned),  As she also mentioned, there are a few ways to 
 make a bootable USB key, and they're described in the MacWorld article.  
 They include using disk utility, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Lion Disk Maker. 
 I did this for Mountain Lion with Carbon Copy Cloner, which is a paid app 
 I have for doing backups.  Lion Disk Maker is a free app.
 
 At present the dev is working on version 3 which will support Mavericks.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
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