Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question
Hello, Apple uses the Duxberry Braille tables. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question
Thanks all for your responses. I suspected that Duxberry were the creators of the braille translation tables in use with voiceover. :) To answer your question, I created mine using LibLouis which is a free open source software, available on Windows Mac and Linux, that you can write braille tables with. You can google it if you want to learn more, I don't wanna risk getting too off topic for this list. My trouble though is in making the LibLouis braille tables usable to me with Voiceover. I can't seem to figure out how to get them written/placed on my computer in such a way that I can use what I made. I wrote braille tables trying to help me and others gain access to braille output in languages which Voiceover is not available, because we figured braille support with no voice support is better than nothing. I am aware that Duxberry has only included languages available on the mac that are also available as a voiceover Voice. Does anyone have any ideas of what I can try to get my mac to allow me to use the braille translation tables we have written with a braille display. I have noticed that if you wish to view the braille table folder and files in your mac, it's under computer/system/library/screen reader/braille tables. I wonder if there is a way somehow to move the tables I made into this folder and get them to read. Within the braille tables folder is the Duxberry folder, but I'm wondering if a separate folder with the LibLouis tables could be created inside the braille tables folder. Thoughts would be appreciated. I know this in theory is possible, to add a braille table for use with a braille display, and I am determine to find a way to do it. :) Also, if someone wants to write me off list and dialogue with me on this little project I'm working on, feel free. My email is laurel.stock...@gmail.com I don't want to clutter the list, but at the same time I would appreciate help with this if anyone has anything to offer. Thanks Laurel On 3/21/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So how do we either modify them, or create them, provided we have a windows machine lying around, and that we have a copy of Duxberry? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question Hello, Apple uses the Duxberry Braille tables. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility
Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question
On 21 Mar 2015, at 19:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: So how do we either modify them, or create them, provided we have a windows machine lying around, and that we have a copy of Duxberry? It would require an in-depth knowledge of the internal workings of Mac OS x to do that. My husband made Braille tables for Leopard and Snow Leopard since only American English was provided, but since Lion, they’ve defeated him. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question
So how do we either modify them, or create them, provided we have a windows machine lying around, and that we have a copy of Duxberry? Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question Hello, Apple uses the Duxberry Braille tables. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question
Laurel, I hear that Apple uses LibLouis, but I don't know the particulars. I've done a makeshift braille table for JFW using that screenreader's .jbt file system, but that's pretty jerry-rigged in my opinion. I was hoping that you would know... How do you write Braille tables your way? Ben - Original Message - From: Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 12:40 Subject: [Mac-access]: Voiceover and braille tables question I know this is sort of random, but I'm wondering. Do any of you happen to know how Apple's braille tables that are used with Voiceover are written? I'm trying to research this a bit for a project I am working on, but I am struggling to find good resources. Is Apple basing their braille tables off of a framework, something like Duxberry Braille and that's how they are getting their braille tables? Or are they using a particular computer coding language to write their tables? If someone could point me in the write direction for me to learn a bit more than I already know, I would appreciate it. For what it's worth, I do know how to write a braille translation table, I've done it for several braille codes in several different languages, so I am somewhat familiar with how they can be built or written. I just am wanting to try and learn a bit more if I can about how Apple built theirs, or what framework Apple is using. Thanks for any information anyone might have, Laurel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
