Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Esther]

Hi Lovette,

When I post a link to the Mail Archive for a post, that has full instructions 
on how to set things up. This is meant to cut down on the traffic, and includes 
how to get to System Preferences, and gives step by step information.  You can 
bring up the link in Safari and then Command-Tab to switch between reading the 
instructions and working in another app.  However, I'll paste in the text for 
my earlier archived post at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
• Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion
I'll just add that if you start from Mail, a quick way to get to the correct 
section of the System Preferences menu for Services is to use Control+F2 or 
VO-M to the Apple menu bar, right arrow to Mail, arrow down and press "S" for 
the services menu, then right arrow and press Command+Down arrow to go to 
"Services Preferences…" and press return.  You can substitute that for my first 
sentence (below), and then start at the sentence "You'll be placed directly in 
the Keyboard Shortcuts pane…"


A quick way to get to the System Preferences for Services is to select some 
text (doesn't have to be in Safari, can be in another application, such as 
mail), then navigate to the Services menu on the menu bar (e.g., Control+F2 or 
VO+m to the menu bar, navigate (VO+Right arrow) to the application, arrow down 
and navigate to the Services menu option (quickly type "s e r" then press 
return), then again quickly type "s e r" to move to the "Services Preferences" 
option in the Services sub-menu, and press return.  You'll be placed directly 
in the Keyboard shortcuts pane that John mentions, with the advantage that 
"Services" will already be selected in the first table of "Keyboard Shortcuts 
Categories".  So you only need to navigate to the second "Keyboard Shortcuts 
Table", interact, then navigate to the entry for "New TextEdit Window 
Containing Selection" and check it.  I think you can simply move to the end of 
the table (VO+Shift+End or VO+Fn+Shift+Right Arrow on a laptop), then VO+Left 
Arrow to the column with the shortcut name.  You only have to VO+Up arrow a few 
times to get to the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" shortcut (in 
Snow Leopard).  VO+Left Arrow to the column with the check box and check it 
(VO+Space).  Then VO+Right Arrow past the description column to the column for 
shortcuts, press return, and type in your new shortcut.  Stop interacting with 
the table and use Command+W to close the window.

This is for Snow Leopard, since I have to keep running some programs that are 
not Lion compatible. However, if you do this in Mail, you don't have to select 
any text for the "Services Preferences" in the submenu to show up.  In most 
applications you'll only get the Services submenu and the "Services 
Preferences" entry to show up when you have selected something.



Cheers,

Esther



On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:37, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> go to safari via the menues if you are in that program and then go to 
> services, then services prefs and yu should be able to follow ester's 
> wonderful instructions from there.
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> okay how do I get to system preferences? I tried and it seems to go to the 
>> finder preferenecs or email preferences etc.
>> thanks.
>> 

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Sarah Alawami]

go to safari via the menues if you are in that program and then go to services, 
then services prefs and yu should be able to follow ester's wonderful 
instructions from there.

Take care.
On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> okay how do I get to system preferences? I tried and it seems to go to the 
> finder preferenecs or email preferences etc.
> thanks.
> 
> On 2011-12-20, at 1:01 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lovette,
>> 
>> David and Sarah are referring to my linked instructions for enabling the 
>> "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" services menu option, with the 
>> option to assign it a short cut. On the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System 
>> Preferences, after selecting "Services" in the Shortcuts Category table, you 
>> navigate to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" table to check the services you want to 
>> activate.  In this case you want to check the box for "New TextEdit Window 
>> Containing Selection", so that it will be an available option in your 
>> Services menu.  There is also a column in that table that optionally allows 
>> you to associate the checked services menu option with a keyboard shortcut 
>> of your choosing, in addition to the first column for the check box and the 
>> second column that names the service.  I believe that what Sarah was saying 
>> is that sometimes VO+Enter to select the start of a section in Safari 
>> doesn't always work for them even after interacting.  As I recall, you may 
>> not be able to use that if you're on a link.  I'm not sure whether David was 
>> describing difficulties assigning the shortcut within the table for the 
>> service menu option, but that's the only shortcut field I can identify in 
>> the context of this discussion.  
>> 
>> My original instructions were for Snow Leopard, but I think they also work 
>> under Lion.  Incidentally, if you are having difficulty finding and 
>> selecting text in Safari, and you have set up this service menu option for 
>> "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" with a shortcut, you can just use 
>> Command-A to select all in your Safari window, then apply the shortcut for 
>> "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" that you assigned, and do your 
>> find and selection from TextEdit, which most people find easier.  I don't 
>> mean to encourage bad habits, because you should be able to do your finding 
>> and selecting in Safari with VoiceOver, but this should work for you.  
>> 
>> HTH. Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther 
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:15, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>> 
>>> what is the short cut field?
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>> On 2011-12-19, at 9:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
>>>> least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing 
>>>> the
>>>> desired shortcut combination.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>>> Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
>>>> enter fails even after interaction with the area.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the tip though.
>>>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Dónal,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
>>>> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
>>>> menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
>>>> to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
>>>> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>>>>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>>>>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
>>>> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus 
>>>> is
>>>> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible 
>>>> with
>>

Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Lovette Yewchan]

okay how do I get to system preferences? I tried and it seems to go to the 
finder preferenecs or email preferences etc.
thanks.

On 2011-12-20, at 1:01 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Lovette,
> 
> David and Sarah are referring to my linked instructions for enabling the "New 
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" services menu option, with the option 
> to assign it a short cut. On the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System 
> Preferences, after selecting "Services" in the Shortcuts Category table, you 
> navigate to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" table to check the services you want to 
> activate.  In this case you want to check the box for "New TextEdit Window 
> Containing Selection", so that it will be an available option in your 
> Services menu.  There is also a column in that table that optionally allows 
> you to associate the checked services menu option with a keyboard shortcut of 
> your choosing, in addition to the first column for the check box and the 
> second column that names the service.  I believe that what Sarah was saying 
> is that sometimes VO+Enter to select the start of a section in Safari doesn't 
> always work for them even after interacting.  As I recall, you may not be 
> able to use that if you're on a link.  I'm not sure whether David was 
> describing difficulties assigning the shortcut within the table for the 
> service menu option, but that's the only shortcut field I can identify in the 
> context of this discussion.  
> 
> My original instructions were for Snow Leopard, but I think they also work 
> under Lion.  Incidentally, if you are having difficulty finding and selecting 
> text in Safari, and you have set up this service menu option for "New 
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" with a shortcut, you can just use 
> Command-A to select all in your Safari window, then apply the shortcut for 
> "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" that you assigned, and do your 
> find and selection from TextEdit, which most people find easier.  I don't 
> mean to encourage bad habits, because you should be able to do your finding 
> and selecting in Safari with VoiceOver, but this should work for you.  
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:15, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> what is the short cut field?
>> Lovette
>> 
>> On 2011-12-19, at 9:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
>>> least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
>>> desired shortcut combination.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.
>>> 
>>> I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
>>> enter fails even after interaction with the area.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tip though.
>>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dónal,
>>>> 
>>>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
>>> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
>>> menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
>>> to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
>>> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>>>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>>>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
>>> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
>>> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
>>> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
>>> strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
>>> similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
>>> documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
>>> applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
>>> and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 19,

Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Sarah Alawami]

I had to check that twice for it to stay that way. it was very very odd. and 
that was after I inabled my keystroke. I dunno why lion is being stubborn of if 
it is my machine but there ya go.

I might add though that it worked with the latest build of webkit.
On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Lovette,
> 
> David and Sarah are referring to my linked instructions for enabling the "New 
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" services menu option, with the option 
> to assign it a short cut. On the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System 
> Preferences, after selecting "Services" in the Shortcuts Category table, you 
> navigate to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" table to check the services you want to 
> activate.  In this case you want to check the box for "New TextEdit Window 
> Containing Selection", so that it will be an available option in your 
> Services menu.  There is also a column in that table that optionally allows 
> you to associate the checked services menu option with a keyboard shortcut of 
> your choosing, in addition to the first column for the check box and the 
> second column that names the service.  I believe that what Sarah was saying 
> is that sometimes VO+Enter to select the start of a section in Safari doesn't 
> always work for them even after interacting.  As I recall, you may not be 
> able to use that if you're on a link.  I'm not sure whether David was 
> describing difficulties assigning the shortcut within the table for the 
> service menu option, but that's the only shortcut field I can identify in the 
> context of this discussion.  
> 
> My original instructions were for Snow Leopard, but I think they also work 
> under Lion.  Incidentally, if you are having difficulty finding and selecting 
> text in Safari, and you have set up this service menu option for "New 
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" with a shortcut, you can just use 
> Command-A to select all in your Safari window, then apply the shortcut for 
> "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" that you assigned, and do your 
> find and selection from TextEdit, which most people find easier.  I don't 
> mean to encourage bad habits, because you should be able to do your finding 
> and selecting in Safari with VoiceOver, but this should work for you.  
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:15, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> what is the short cut field?
>> Lovette
>> 
>> On 2011-12-19, at 9:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
>>> least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
>>> desired shortcut combination.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.
>>> 
>>> I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
>>> enter fails even after interaction with the area.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tip though.
>>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dónal,
>>>> 
>>>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
>>> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
>>> menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
>>> to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
>>> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>>>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>>>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
>>> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
>>> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
>>> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
>>> strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
>>> similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
>>> documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
>>> applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
>>> and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
>

Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Esther]

Hi Lovette,

David and Sarah are referring to my linked instructions for enabling the "New 
TextEdit Window Containing Selection" services menu option, with the option to 
assign it a short cut. On the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System Preferences, 
after selecting "Services" in the Shortcuts Category table, you navigate to the 
"Keyboard Shortcuts" table to check the services you want to activate.  In this 
case you want to check the box for "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection", 
so that it will be an available option in your Services menu.  There is also a 
column in that table that optionally allows you to associate the checked 
services menu option with a keyboard shortcut of your choosing, in addition to 
the first column for the check box and the second column that names the 
service.  I believe that what Sarah was saying is that sometimes VO+Enter to 
select the start of a section in Safari doesn't always work for them even after 
interacting.  As I recall, you may not be able to use that if you're on a link. 
 I'm not sure whether David was describing difficulties assigning the shortcut 
within the table for the service menu option, but that's the only shortcut 
field I can identify in the context of this discussion.  

My original instructions were for Snow Leopard, but I think they also work 
under Lion.  Incidentally, if you are having difficulty finding and selecting 
text in Safari, and you have set up this service menu option for "New TextEdit 
Window Containing Selection" with a shortcut, you can just use Command-A to 
select all in your Safari window, then apply the shortcut for "New TextEdit 
Window Containing Selection" that you assigned, and do your find and selection 
from TextEdit, which most people find easier.  I don't mean to encourage bad 
habits, because you should be able to do your finding and selecting in Safari 
with VoiceOver, but this should work for you.  

HTH. Cheers,

Esther 

On Dec 20, 2011, at 10:15, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> what is the short cut field?
> Lovette
> 
> On 2011-12-19, at 9:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
>> least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
>> desired shortcut combination.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>> Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.
>> 
>> I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
>> enter fails even after interaction with the area.
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip though.
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dónal,
>>> 
>>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
>> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
>> menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
>> to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
>> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
>> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
>> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
>> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
>> strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
>> similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
>> documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
>> applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
>> and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much
>> indeed for this.
>>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donald,
>>>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to
>> the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in
>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEd

Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Lovette Yewchan]

what is the short cut field?
Lovette

On 2011-12-19, at 9:38 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
> least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
> desired shortcut combination.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.
> 
> I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
> enter fails even after interaction with the area.
> 
> Thanks for the tip though.
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dónal,
>> 
>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
> TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
> menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
> to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
> strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
> similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
> documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
> applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
> and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much
> indeed for this.
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Donald,
>>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to
> the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in
> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window
> in the normal way. 
>>>> 
>>>> Paul Hopewell
>>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do
> this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying,
> pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>>>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>>>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
>>>>> 
>> 
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RE: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[David Griffith]

Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
desired shortcut combination.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
enter fails even after interaction with the area.

Thanks for the tip though.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New
TextEdit Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services
menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much
indeed for this.
>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donald,
>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to
the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in
TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window
in the normal way. 
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do
this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying,
pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
>>>> 
> 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Esther]

Hi David, 

This works for me in Safari, Webkit, and all other apps, but I'm running Safari 
5.05 under Snow Leopard.  The shortcut I'm using is Command-Option-Shift-W.  
(There's an extra Command key added here that is absent from your post.)  You 
can assign any shortcut you like.  The reason I post the actual key 
combinations I use is that there's a fair chance of running into a conflict 
with an existing keyboard shortcut in some other app.  That's one of the 
reasons why I'm using so many keys in the shortcut definition, since this 
Services menu shortcut works in all apps, and not just in Safari. When I first 
set up my personalized script to announce time, back in Leopard after 
considerable discussion with Paul Hopewell on this list on getting a 24 hour 
clock announcement (for the U.S.) with AppleScript (and some other 
configuration), I assigned the shortcut Command-Shift-T under Spark.  Well, 
that shortcut got used in Snow Leopard to put selected Finder items into the 
Dock, so I had to make this Command-Option-Shift-T.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 19, 2011, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote:

> I tried this for ages in Webkit and tonight  the key shortcut assignment  
> would not work.  It reported option shift W as the shortcut in the table but 
> actually pressing these keys after selecting all would not work.  I then 
> switched to Safari and it worked first time so it looks like the recent build 
> of Webkit I was using has this feature broken.
> 
> I will try updating the build tonight to see if works on the very latest 
> Webkit.
> Thanks for  the tip. At least I know that I can switch to Safari if I want to 
> have this feature.
> 
> RegardsDavid Griffith. 
> David Griffith
> d.griff...@btinternet.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Dec 2011, at 17:52, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dónal,
>> 
>> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New TextEdit 
>> Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services menu 
>> option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use 
>> Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the 
>> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
>> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
>> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to 
>> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is 
>> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with 
>> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option 
>> strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For 
>> similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in 
>> documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and 
>> applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text, 
>> and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much 
>>> indeed for this.
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
 the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
 window in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
> Folks,
> 
> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
> this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
> pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
> Dónal Fitzpatrick
> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

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I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo 
enter fails even after interaction with the area.

Thanks for the tip though.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New TextEdit 
> Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services menu 
> option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use 
> Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the 
> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to 
> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is 
> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with 
> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option strips 
> out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For similar 
> reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in documents in 
> Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and applying the 
> shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text, and lets 
> VoiceOver read out the table directly.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
>> for this.
>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donald, 
>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
>>> the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
>>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
>>> window in the normal way. 
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell 
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
 this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[David Griffith]

I tried this for ages in Webkit and tonight  the key shortcut assignment  would 
not work.  It reported option shift W as the shortcut in the table but actually 
pressing these keys after selecting all would not work.  I then switched to 
Safari and it worked first time so it looks like the recent build of Webkit I 
was using has this feature broken.

I will try updating the build tonight to see if works on the very latest Webkit.
Thanks for  the tip. At least I know that I can switch to Safari if I want to 
have this feature.
  
RegardsDavid Griffith. 
David Griffith
d.griff...@btinternet.com



On 19 Dec 2011, at 17:52, Esther wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> 
> You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New TextEdit 
> Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services menu 
> option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use 
> Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the 
> instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
> • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
> I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to 
> send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is 
> that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with 
> VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option strips 
> out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For similar 
> reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in documents in 
> Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and applying the 
> shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text, and lets 
> VoiceOver read out the table directly.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
>> for this.
>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donald, 
>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
>>> the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
>>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
>>> window in the normal way. 
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell 
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
 this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Esther]

Hi Shannon and Others,

I've been using this Services menu option to send selections to TextEdit since 
Tiger -- which is the very first version of Mac OS X to support VoiceOver.  The 
main practical difference in using this in versions starting with Snow Leopard 
is that you have to check a box under a table in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of 
System Preferences to determine which items show up under the Services menu.  
In Tiger and Leopard, the option automatically appeared under the TextEdit 
submenu of Services  as "New window containing selection".  As Colin stated, my 
earlier post gives a link to step-by-step instructions to enable this Services 
menu option, and additionally assign a keyboard shortcut.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 
On Dec 19, 2011, at 08:39, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Shannon!
> Yes it will!
> And if you have already red Esther's post a about adding that shortcut that 
> will also work! :]
> Colin
> Qapla!
> 
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 19 Dec 2011, at 18:30, Shannon Dyer wrote:
> 
>> I'm running SL. Will this work for me, or is this just for lion users?
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
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>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donald, 
>>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
>>> the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
>>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
>>> window in the normal way. 
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell 
>>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
 this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

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Hi Shannon!
Yes it will!
And if you have already red Esther's post a about adding that shortcut that 
will also work! :]
Colin
Qapla!

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> 
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> 
>> Hi Donald, 
>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
>> menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
>> in the normal way. 
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
>>> without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
>>> pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

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I'm running SL. Will this work for me, or is this just for lion users?

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> Hi Donald, 
> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
> menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
> in the normal way. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
>> without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
>> returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

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Hi Dónal,

You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the "New TextEdit 
Window Containing Selection" option is checked under the Services menu option, 
you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use Command-A 
to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the instructions to set 
this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
• Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to send 
your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is that it 
can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with VoiceOver 
due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option strips out the 
non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For similar reasons, 
you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in documents in Pages, Nisus 
Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and applying the shortcut, since it 
transforms the embedded material to text, and lets VoiceOver read out the table 
directly.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
> for this.
> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donald, 
>> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
>> menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
>> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
>> in the normal way. 
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
>> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
>>> without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
>>> pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
>>> 

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Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
for this.
On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:

> Hi Donald, 
> I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
> menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
> TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
> in the normal way. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
> On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
>> without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
>> returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
>> 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

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Hi Donald, 
I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in TextEdit 
WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window in the 
normal way. 

Paul Hopewell 
On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
> without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
> returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
> Dónal Fitzpatrick
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copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Folks,

I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
Dónal Fitzpatrick
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copying large chunk of text from safari.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Folks,

I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
Dónal Fitzpatrick
dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie



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