MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Tony LaFemina
What happened to that user friendly environment? I guess it was nice 
while it lasted.

Jerry Yeager wrote:

 Allocating memory in OS-X can be done by the user, but it is not for 
 the faint-of-heart (smile).

 Jerry

 On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:00 AM, Tony LaFemina wrote:

 Allan Atherton wrote:

 What should I do about corrupted fonts in Word?
 I am using Word X under OS 10.2.1, and have noticed that Word has 
 begun to
 quit rather frequently. Then today I noticed that in the pull down 
 menu in
 the formatting palette, some of the fonts are gibberish, and I have to
 select a font 3 or 4 lines away from the one I want, in order to get 
 the one
 I want. So I guess corrupted fonts are crashing the application.
 Allan Atherton


 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be October 22
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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 I don't think you have corrupted fonts. I thing the program is 
 getting bogged down. Try allocating more memory to it in 10M 
 increments and see what happens. If it goes back to normal, you're 
 going to have to see what useless information it's storing that's 
 causing it to get so heavy.

 -- Tony LaFemina
 Major in Layout  Design Techniques
 Minor in Software Fundamentals
 http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
 mailto:remacs at optonline.net




 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.






 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




-- 
Tony LaFemina
Major in Layout  Design Techniques
Minor in Software Fundamentals
http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
mailto:remacs at optonline.net




The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Jerry Yeager
I would think the OS-X approach is really a little more user friendly 
because it does not require the end user to guess at how much RAM the 
software manufacturer really intended the application to use ratehr than 
the bare bones minimum it need to get by with. (Sorry about ending the 
sentence like that!)

Jerry

On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:05 PM, Tony LaFemina wrote:

 What happened to that user friendly environment? I guess it was nice 
 while it lasted.

 Jerry Yeager wrote:

 Allocating memory in OS-X can be done by the user, but it is not for 
 the faint-of-heart (smile).

 Jerry

 On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:00 AM, Tony LaFemina wrote:

 Allan Atherton wrote:

 What should I do about corrupted fonts in Word?
 I am using Word X under OS 10.2.1, and have noticed that Word has 
 begun to
 quit rather frequently. Then today I noticed that in the pull down 
 menu in
 the formatting palette, some of the fonts are gibberish, and I have 
 to
 select a font 3 or 4 lines away from the one I want, in order to get 
 the one
 I want. So I guess corrupted fonts are crashing the application.
 Allan Atherton


 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be October 
 22
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.


 I don't think you have corrupted fonts. I thing the program is 
 getting bogged down. Try allocating more memory to it in 10M 
 increments and see what happens. If it goes back to normal, you're 
 going to have to see what useless information it's storing that's 
 causing it to get so heavy.

 -- Tony LaFemina
 Major in Layout  Design Techniques
 Minor in Software Fundamentals
 http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
 mailto:remacs at optonline.net




 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 
 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.






 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




 -- Tony LaFemina
 Major in Layout  Design Techniques
 Minor in Software Fundamentals
 http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
 mailto:remacs at optonline.net




 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.






The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: call for research subjects

2002-10-25 Thread Jerry Yeager
Hmm,

If you were closer to the Cincinnati area (and soon the Indianapolis 
area) you could find the jack-of-all-trades type people you are 
looking for in the genius bar of the Apple store. {Not that the folks at 
MacTown aren't very well qualified!!}

Best wishes in this, especially at defending your definition in your 
paper, as that by itself will be a tough sell.

Jerry

On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 07:52 PM, Jesse Walker wrote:

(Stuff cut out).


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MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Lee Larson
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:05 PM, Tony LaFemina wrote:

 What happened to that user friendly environment? I guess it was nice 
 while it lasted.

I think the point Jerry had in mind was that users of Mac OS X don't 
have to worry about things like micromanaging memory any more. As far 
as memory management goes, Mac OS X is much friendlier than its 
predecessors.

In other ways, it's more complicated, but Apple has managed to do a 
good job of hiding most of the complications from ordinary users.


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MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Tony LaFemina
Allan Atherton wrote:

Tony LaFemina remacs at optonline.net wrote:

Allan Atherton wrote:

What should I do about corrupted fonts in Word?
I am using Word X under OS 10.2.1

I don't think you have corrupted fonts. I thing the program is getting
bogged down. Try allocating more memory to it in 10M increments and see
what happens. If it goes back to normal, you're going to have to see
what useless information it's storing that's causing it to get so heavy.


I have 768MB of RAM, and OSX gives each application all the memory it wants,
on the fly, depending on whether the application is resting or working. So I
doubt that I have a memory problem.
Allan Atherton

You may be right, but I'm not familiar with native OS X software. I'm 
still using 8.6. Pre OS X, software programs have 2 heap zones. When 
they collide, it don't matter if you have a zillion megs of RAM. You 
have to quit the program and restart it. If you want to avoid the 
problem, you give the program more memory. If the new software works 
differently, then it depends on how the programmers set up the work area 
in the program that determines how memory is allocated.

Another thing you can look at is, compare the number of fonts to the 
number of lines in the Font menu. Maybe that will give you a clue to 
what's going on.

-- 
Tony LaFemina
Major in Layout  Design Techniques
Minor in Software Fundamentals
http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
mailto:remacs at optonline.net




The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Allan Atherton
 I don't think you have corrupted fonts. I thing the program is getting
 bogged down. Try allocating more memory
 I have 768MB of RAM, and OSX gives each application all the memory it wants,
 on the fly, depending on whether the application is resting or working. So I
 doubt that I have a memory problem.
 You may be right, but I'm not familiar with native OS X software. ...
 Another thing you can look at is, compare the number of fonts to the
 number of lines in the Font menu. Maybe that will give you a clue to
 what's going on.

Memory
There is no way to allocate memory in OSX unless you can work under the
hood. Pogue's manual says the memory is allocated dynamically, and in the
past year I have not heard of or found a way to allocate memory myself. I
have a little program called Gmem that shows how much memory OSX is giving
to the open programs. It is interested to see that a program that is open
but doing nothing is given almost no memory. Then when you open a lot of
documents, pictures, windows, etc., the program is given a lot more memory.
It is really nice not to have to worry about memory, and you can run a lot
more programs with a lot less memory, because each program does not lock up
a fixed allocation. They just wait there, using just a little memory until
you call on them to do some work. Then they get only what they need for the
task, moment by moment.

Fonts
My problems with Word were almost certainly due to fonts, but I don't know
if it was because certain fonts were corrupted or just unsupported. I could
see the bad fonts in Word's WSYWIG pull down menu, because their names were
distorted and illegible. Since Word X was unable to display the fonts
legibly, I guess that means they were unsupported. I was able to compare the
pull down menu to the contents of my four font folders (one in the OS9
System Folder and three in OSX's various Library Folders). Then by using
alphabetic order, I figured out the bad fonts in the folders and trashed
them. The bad fonts were all odd-balls that nobody would ever use. That
cleaned up the pull down menu, and now the font that I select is the font
that I get.
That was only yesterday, so I can't yet say for sure that those fonts were
also causing Word to quit now and then, but there are no quits so far so I
am optimistic.

Allan Atherton


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MacGroup: call for research subjects

2002-10-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jesse,

I'm far from a computer expert.that's one reason I'm so grateful for the 
help of those on this list.

But, as a publisher, writer, editor and web-site content person, I can justly 
say from observation whatever you write will be well written.

Good luck,

Jane Blake

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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Brian O'Neal
Hello every one,

  I am looking into buying a domain name for the  LCS web site. I have ran
into some trouble. It would be nice to have WWW.LCS.COM its short and sweet,
but unfortunately another company owns that. The following list of names are
already taken:
lcs.com 
lcs.net  ?
lcs.us 
lcs.biz 
lcs.info 
lcs.org
lcs.cc 

 SO! I would like for everyone to submit names that would work for our group
and web site, such as ...
Derbycitymacs.com
Lmug.com  --- taken by a fitness website
Louisvillecomputersociety.com --- t looong
Lcsmug.com

Just something that you feel would be a nice domain name for our web site.
And it doesn?t have to be a .COM
 
***On a side note, please refrain from using the word river. No
rivermacs.com, riverLCS.com. I think the area sports teams have taken those
names too far, RiverFrogs, RiverBats, etc...  Just kidding!almost.***

Maybe once we get a few, we could vote on the best one by email.

Thanks for your help,

Brian O'Neal


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell

I've never quite understood if LCS is anything more than the mac user
group.

mug-l.org :)
mug-louisville.org
loumug.org

loucs.org [which is untaken]

Hen


On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Brian O'Neal wrote:

 Hello every one,

   I am looking into buying a domain name for the  LCS web site. I have ran
 into some trouble. It would be nice to have WWW.LCS.COM its short and sweet,
 but unfortunately another company owns that. The following list of names are
 already taken:
 lcs.com
 lcs.net  ?
 lcs.us
 lcs.biz
 lcs.info
 lcs.org
 lcs.cc

  SO! I would like for everyone to submit names that would work for our group
 and web site, such as ...
 Derbycitymacs.com
 Lmug.com  --- taken by a fitness website
 Louisvillecomputersociety.com --- t looong
 Lcsmug.com

 Just something that you feel would be a nice domain name for our web site.
 And it doesn?t have to be a .COM

 ***On a side note, please refrain from using the word river. No
 rivermacs.com, riverLCS.com. I think the area sports teams have taken those
 names too far, RiverFrogs, RiverBats, etc...  Just kidding!almost.***

 Maybe once we get a few, we could vote on the best one by email.

 Thanks for your help,

 Brian O'Neal


 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread vDog
lcs.org ...vDog


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Henri Yandell
Erm. is taken :)   Loudonville Christian School since 1996

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, vDog wrote:

 lcs.org   ...vDog


 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread David Dudine
Brian,

I frequently visit a new website named www.stevehoffman.tv.  This is the
first time I have seen tv used.  So, I suggest lcs.tv.

David Dudine

 From: Brian O'Neal brimac at mac.com
 Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:58:52 -0400
 To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
 Subject: MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.
 
 Hello every one,
 
 I am looking into buying a domain name for the  LCS web site. I have ran
 into some trouble. It would be nice to have WWW.LCS.COM its short and sweet,
 but unfortunately another company owns that. The following list of names are
 already taken:
 lcs.com 
 lcs.net  ?
 lcs.us 
 lcs.biz 
 lcs.info 
 lcs.org
 lcs.cc 
 
 SO! I would like for everyone to submit names that would work for our group
 and web site, such as ...
 Derbycitymacs.com
 Lmug.com  --- taken by a fitness website
 Louisvillecomputersociety.com --- t looong
 Lcsmug.com
 
 Just something that you feel would be a nice domain name for our web site

The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread B. Eric Bradley
I'd be for maclouisville.whatever, myself.  Or even 
macgroup.whatever. (That'd go nicely with the mailing list, anyway)

Hello every one,

   I am looking into buying a domain name for the  LCS web site. I have ran
into some trouble. It would be nice to have WWW.LCS.COM its short and sweet,
but unfortunately another company owns that. The following list of names are
already taken:
lcs.com
lcs.net   
lcs.us
lcs.biz
lcs.info
lcs.org
lcs.cc


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.




MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would recommend lcsworld. All major extensions are 
available.

Bryan Forrest
Macintosh Specialist
LifeNet
http://www.lifenet.org


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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Bill King
on 10/25/02 11:58, Brian O'Neal at brimac at mac.com wrote:


 
 Just something that you feel would be a nice domain name for our web site.
 And it doesn?t have to be a .COM
 
 ***On a side note, please refrain from using the word river. No
 rivermacs.com, riverLCS.com. I think the area sports teams have taken those
 names too far, RiverFrogs, RiverBats, etc...  Just kidding!almost.***
 
 Maybe once we get a few, we could vote on the best one by email.
 
 Thanks for your help,
 
 Brian O'Neal
 
 
 The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
 activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.
 

Brian,

Both maclcs.com and maclcs.org are available.

Bill


The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Rob Kersting
I actually like the lcsmug suggestion.

Remember the KISS rule. The simpler it is, the easier it is to remember
and repeat.

rob

vDog wrote:

 lcs.org ...vDog

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 For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
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MacGroup: Your input is needed. LCS domain name.

2002-10-25 Thread Bill Rising
On 10/25/02 11:58, Brian O'Neal wrote

Hello every one,

  I am looking into buying a domain name for the  LCS web site. I have ran
into some trouble. 

I think that the organization should have a .org ending, as we aren't a 
company, but a non-profit organization.

Here are some available names which show up (whatever means all are open):

muglou.whatever
maclou.whatever
loumug.whatever
loumac.whatever (except .com)

These would be pretty easy to remember.

Bill

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MacGroup: LCS?

2002-10-25 Thread Bernard A Griffis
LMacCS.com, .org etc. For Louisville Mac Computer Society. Just a
thought.
Bernie


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MacGroup: Corrupted fonts in Word

2002-10-25 Thread Tony LaFemina
Lee Larson wrote:

 On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:05 PM, Tony LaFemina wrote:

 What happened to that user friendly environment? I guess it was nice 
 while it lasted.


 I think the point Jerry had in mind was that users of Mac OS X don't 
 have to worry about things like micromanaging memory any more. As far 
 as memory management goes, Mac OS X is much friendlier than its 
 predecessors.

 In other ways, it's more complicated, but Apple has managed to do a 
 good job of hiding most of the complications from ordinary users.


I may be wrong, but I think it was some of those complications that gave 
users more control over the software they were using.  As newer versions 
of software are introduced, the Help files are getting larger, and more 
assistants are being introduced which takes control away from the user. 
If you're the type that likes to push a button or select a tool and say 
 Wow! Look what I did, then more power to you. Most of the stuff at my 
web site goes much deeper than the surface of the AppleWorks program. I 
get a feeling of satisfaction when I find out how to do things that go 
beyond the scope of a program. But, that's me. We all have our own passions.

-- 
Tony LaFemina
Major in Layout  Design Techniques
Minor in Software Fundamentals
http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
mailto:remacs at optonline.net




The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will be November 26
For more information, see http://www.aye.net/~lcs. A calendar of
activities is at http://www.calsnet.net/macusers.