Re: LWP install
After a couple of hours I found my way thru CPAN getting one missing module at a time. It appears that the warning messages just point out things you can install afterwards though. The URI and HeadParser aka the HTML module are pretty much required. Base64 and FTP seem not to be used for LWP::simple. My understanding (possibly wrong) is that if there is a budle available (i.e. Bundle::LWP) that will install any needed prereqs too. Is this correct? I just installed Bundle::Slash and it seemed to download all the necessary modules. BTW, if anyone has Slash going on their system please email me. I have it installed and would like some advice on how to set it up. Thanks! Apologies to Doug for him getting this twice. - Chuck Jacobson, Technical Systems Specialist North Central Baptist Church, Gainesville, FL http://www.northcentralbaptist.org/ - I've written a commercial for Apple Computer. It goes like this: Macintosh . . . we might not get everything right, but at least we knew the century was going to end. - Douglas Adams
Directory path error
Hi all, Was wondering if anyone had experienced this problem before: When specifying a directory to glob in MacOS X it malfunctions if the path contains a space ie. /Users/sydneyshan/University of Newcastle/* Is there any way around this without needing to replace the directory's spaces with underscores etc? Cheers, -Shannon Murdoch
Re: Directory path error
At 2:57 AM +1100 11/1/2002, Shannon Murdoch wrote: When specifying a directory to glob in MacOS X it malfunctions if the path contains a space ie. /Users/sydneyshan/University of Newcastle/* Is there any way around this without needing to replace the directory's spaces with underscores etc? The standard ways are either quoting the entire string or escaping the spaces: '/Users/sydneyshan/University of Newcastle/*' /Users/sydneyshan/University\ of\ Newcastle/* When dragging from the Finder to Terminal, OS X uses the second approach. -Charles Euonymic Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you install modules in OS X?
Hello all, I got a new iMac a few of weeks ago. I've been using MacPerl on a Power Computing tower until now. I'm a bit stymied by Perl on the iMac. My primary problem is that I don't know how to install Perl modules. This was easy in MacPerl. I just dropped the module on Chris Nandor's installme droplet. (A future question: How do you make droplets in OS X?) I have tried to install CPAN-1.63 by running cpan. I wasn't ready for a manual configuration. I let cpan decide what to do. The first thing cpan told me was that I didn't have unzip, make, lynx, ncftpget, ncftp in PATH. Where can I get these? Are they necessary? Larry Wall (Programming Perl, 3rd ed, p 553) seems to think that make is quite important. After writing /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm cpan tried to install Bundle::CPAN. First it asked me to install Net::FTP as soon as possible. It continued by connecting to ftp.cpan.ddns.develooper.com. Apparently it GOT /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz, but after this the process broke down. Cpan could no longer connect. ... 226-File [01mailrc.txt.gz] successfully transferred 226 1.556 seconds (measured here), 35.53 Kbytes per second 56634 bytes received in 00:01 (30.04 KB/s) 221-Goodbye. You uploaded 0 and downloaded 56 kbytes. 221 Logout - CPU time spent: 0.000 seconds. GOT /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz Going to read /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz Issuing /usr/bin/ftp -n /usr/bin/ftp: No address associated with nodename Not connected. Local directory now /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/modules Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Bad luck... Still failed! Can't access URL ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz. Please, install Net::FTP as soon as possible. CPAN.pm installs it for you if you just type install Bundle::libnet Please check, if the URLs I found in your configuration file () are valid. The urllist can be edited. E.g. with ``o conf urllist push ftp://myurl/'' Cannot fetch modules/02packages.details.txt.gz Issuing /usr/bin/ftp -n /usr/bin/ftp: No address associated with nodename Not connected. Local directory now /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/modules Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Bad luck... Still failed! Can't access URL ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/modules/03modlist.data.gz. Please, install Net::FTP as soon as possible. CPAN.pm installs it for you if you just type install Bundle::libnet Please check, if the URLs I found in your configuration file () are valid. The urllist can be edited. E.g. with ``o conf urllist push ftp://myurl/'' Cannot fetch modules/03modlist.data.gz Can't install Bundle::CPAN, don't have an associated bundle file. :-( at /System/Library/Perl/CPAN.pm line 1806 cpan So where do I go from here? I would have no problems downloading the files that cpan couldn't, namely 02packages.details.txt.gz and 03modlist.data.gz, and uncompress them, but I wouldn't know what to do with them after that. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Appropriate references would also be nice. The URL http:www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html doesn't seem to know that Mac OS X exists, and, of course, it assumes you have make if you are on a UNIX system. Sorry for the length of this (my first) posting. I'm a bit frustrated. Regards, Vic -- *---* mailto:vic;norton.name | Victor Thane Norton, Jr. | Mathematician and Motorcyclist | phone: 419-353-3399 *---* http://vic.norton.name
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 12:16 PM, Vic Norton wrote: easy in MacPerl. I just dropped the module on Chris Nandor's installme droplet. Easy it was (and is), but installme has its drawbacks. It doesn't download anything for you, and it doesn't figure out prerequisites for you. (A future question: How do you make droplets in OS X?) Check out DropScript: URL: http://www.mit.edu/people/wsanchez/software/ The first thing cpan told me was that I didn't have unzip, make, lynx, ncftpget, ncftp in PATH. Where can I get these? Are they necessary? You need make, which is included in the developer tools. To install some modules, you'll also need the C compiler, which is also included in the dev tools. Don't worry about the others; cpan searches out many alternative ways for accomplishing the same task, but needs only one. For example, lynx, ncftpget, and ncftp can be used to download files - but ftp, which you do have, works just as well. After writing /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm You should run the cpan shell as root - otherwise, it won't be able to correctly install modules. cpan tried to install Bundle::CPAN. The cpan shell isn't psychic - it didn't try to install Bundle::CPAN on its own. You tried to do that. Terminology nit-picking aside, that wasn't a bad idea - with one caveat. You should update the CPAN module by itself first, with install CPAN, and *then* install the CPAN bundle with install Bundle::CPAN. The version of CPAN.pm shipped with OS X is over-zealous about installing prerequisites, and will try to install Perl 5.8.0 for you if you use it to install the bundle. Unfortunately, in doing so it overwrites the existing Perl, causing no end of problems. First it asked me to install Net::FTP as soon as possible. If I recall correctly, that's included in Bundle::CPAN. Anyway, the cpan shell works without it, but it has to use an external tool for downloading files, which is sub-optimal. It continued by connecting to ftp.cpan.ddns.develooper.com. The ddns name leads me to believe that this is a so-called dynamic dns site. What that means is, it doesn't have a static IP address, and uses software that automatically updates its dns entry each time its address changes. I wouldn't use that as my first choice. Dynamic DNS is mostly used for giving cable-modem connected home servers a name, and such systems are notoriously unreliable. Anyway, most of the problems you had look like network connectivity issues. If you're on dial-up, perhaps your connection dropped. sherm-- If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?
hard links on HFS+
UFS has the notion of a hard link (i.e., a duplicate directory entry somewhere in the same file system, typically for a file). A key characteristic of hard links is that the modes and contents of the file are shared by the link (because all directory entries for a file point to the same inode). I have tried creating hard links on an HFS+ file system and they work (mostly) as expected. I did find a peculiarity, however: % touch foo % ln foo foolink # Using Get Info, set the comment for foo. # Using Get Info, get the comment for foolink. The comment, being stored in the .DS_Store file of foo's directory, does not automatically get used for foolink. I'd like to know whether any of the other HFS+ file attributes are unique to the file, as opposed to being shared by all hard links to the file. -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm- my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
For creating droplets similar to how MacPerl did it, I use DropScript: http://www.mit.edu/people/wsanchez/software/ Pete Vic Norton wrote: Hello all, [snip] (A future question: How do you make droplets in OS X?) [snip] Regards, Vic
Re: hard links on HFS+
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 01:43 PM, Rich Morin wrote: The comment, being stored in the .DS_Store file of foo's directory, does not automatically get used for foolink. I'd like to know whether any of the other HFS+ file attributes are unique to the file, as opposed to being shared by all hard links to the file. I'm confused by your wording of other HFS+ file attributes when the only example you give is the comment, which by your own admission isn't an HFS+ file attribute. As far as I can tell, all HFS+ attributes are shared because they really are the same file. To do otherwise would break the definition of hard link, wouldn't it? Jim -- Jim Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
have you installed the dev tools? - hcir On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 08:16 AM, Vic Norton wrote: Hello all, I got a new iMac a few of weeks ago. I've been using MacPerl on a Power After writing /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm cpan tried to install Bundle::CPAN. First it asked me to install Net::FTP as soon as possible. It continued by connecting to ftp.cpan.ddns.develooper.com. Apparently it GOT /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz, but after this the process broke down. Cpan could no longer connect. ... 226-File [01mailrc.txt.gz] successfully transferred 226 1.556 seconds (measured here), 35.53 Kbytes per second 56634 bytes received in 00:01 (30.04 KB/s) 221-Goodbye. You uploaded 0 and downloaded 56 kbytes. 221 Logout - CPU time spent: 0.000 seconds. GOT /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz Going to read /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/authors/01mailrc.txt.gz Issuing /usr/bin/ftp -n /usr/bin/ftp: No address associated with nodename Not connected. Local directory now /Users/vicnorton/.cpan/sources/modules Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Not connected. Bad luck... Still failed! Can't access URL ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/modules/02packages.details.txt.gz. Please, install Net::FTP as soon as possible. CPAN.pm installs it for you if you just type install Bundle::libnet Please check, if the URLs I found in your configuration file () are valid. The urllist can be edited. E.g. with ``o conf urllist push ftp://myurl/''
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
This is a bug in the version of CPAN that comes with perl 5.6. If a module is in the perl core distribution and you try to install or upgrade it (it's possible that it moved into the core in a later version than 5.6) then that version of CPAN will grab perl to install that module. If you instead download and install the latest version of CPAN by hand (if you try to use CPAN you trigger the bug) then this will be fixed and it will grab only the modules you specify, not the whole perl distribution. Ian On 10/31/02 2:52 PM, Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Sherm Pendley writes: The version of CPAN.pm shipped with OS X is over-zealous about installing prerequisites, and will try to install Perl 5.8.0 for you if you use it to install the bundle. Unfortunately, in doing so it overwrites the existing Perl, causing no end of problems. Which brings up a question that's been nagging at me. There must be some way to tell CPAN, don't upgrade Perl unless I tell you to, and if some other module you're trying to install needs a new version of Perl, try to find an older version of the module that doesn't, isn't there? I've never bothered trying to track down this elusive (nonexistant?) option, since I use the 'ask' mode rather than the 'follow' mode for dependencies. I just answer 'no' and go to search.cpan.org and work out the dependencies for myself. Annoying, but it works. :-) Trey
Re: OS X meltdown
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:48 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: several reasons... - putting a computer to sleep still consumes power. Not very much. I'm one of those people who only sleeps my iBook, I never turn it off. The machine can go several days asleep without losing more than a tiny amount off the battery. It's essentially the same as turned off - the battery seems to drain about the same amount when the machine is turned off. - the computer seems to lose its tcp settings on wake... this was a known problem in OS 9, and I have personally experienced it in OS X... I wake up the computer and it doesn't know how to get out to the internet via my switch to DHCP-ed cable mode to the outside world. I have to log into the switch, release the ip address, and have the cable modem get a new lease. Weird. I use lots of different DHCP environments, and what seems to happen is that when I wake from sleep, the OS automatically renews its leases. In fact, if I'm having network or video problems, closing the lid and re-opening it (after a few seconds) is a pretty dependable way of *fixing* problems. - I may still want to turn off the computer. Yup. I do this when I get on an airplane, because they may want me to remove my battery at a moment's notice at the security screening. -Ken
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
Thanks for the help, everyone. I've spent much of the afternoon trying to find out how to get the Developer Tools CD that doesn't come with new Macs. After a couple of calls to Apple I was finally directed to http://developer.apple.com, but that didn't help much. To download the software I need to be registered. Apparently I am already registered, but the only passwords I can think of don't work. When I try to get help, they ask me for my birth date. I can remember that: April 22 (1935). Nope, Apple says, The authentication provided doesn't match our records. Catch 22. I'm still in the same quandary. I can't make anything in OS X! So I've bought a new machine whose system is crippled and which doesn't have the Developer CD that store-bought versions of OS X have. Well, my new 17 iMac looks nice, but I guess I'll be doing Perl on my Power Computing tower for a while. I have all the tools I need there. Exercise, using Bit::Vector, find the one nonsquare multiple of 4 less than 1 million that is not the sum of a square and a prime. I'd like to see how long this exercise takes on my new machine, but, unfortunately, I can't use Bit::Vector. Regards, Vic -- *---* mailto:vic;norton.name | Life is a jest; and all things show it. | I thought so once; and now I know it. | My Own Epitaph - John Gay, 1689-1732 *---* http://vic.norton.name
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
How strange. How sucky. My iMac (15) came with Developer Tools. My Jaguar up-to-date upgrade came with Developer Tools, too. Trey In a message dated Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Vic Norton writes: Thanks for the help, everyone. I've spent much of the afternoon trying to find out how to get the Developer Tools CD that doesn't come with new Macs. After a couple of calls to Apple I was finally directed to http://developer.apple.com, but that didn't help much. To download the software I need to be registered. Apparently I am already registered, but the only passwords I can think of don't work. When I try to get help, they ask me for my birth date. I can remember that: April 22 (1935). Nope, Apple says, The authentication provided doesn't match our records. Catch 22. I'm still in the same quandary. I can't make anything in OS X! So I've bought a new machine whose system is crippled and which doesn't have the Developer CD that store-bought versions of OS X have. Well, my new 17 iMac looks nice, but I guess I'll be doing Perl on my Power Computing tower for a while. I have all the tools I need there. Exercise, using Bit::Vector, find the one nonsquare multiple of 4 less than 1 million that is not the sum of a square and a prime. I'd like to see how long this exercise takes on my new machine, but, unfortunately, I can't use Bit::Vector. Regards, Vic
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
Vic Norton wrote: So I've bought a new machine whose system is crippled and which doesn't have the Developer CD that store-bought versions of OS X have. Well, my new 17 iMac looks nice, but I guess I'll be doing Perl on my Power Computing tower for a while. I have all the tools I need there. Look for /Applications/Installers/Developer Tools pg
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
On 10/31/02 5:26 PM, Vic Norton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the help, everyone. I've spent much of the afternoon trying to find out how to get the Developer Tools CD that doesn't come with new Macs. After a couple of calls to Apple I was finally directed to http://developer.apple.com, but that didn't help much. To download the software I need to be registered. Apparently I am already registered, but the only passwords I can think of don't work. When I try to get help, they ask me for my birth date. I can remember that: April 22 (1935). Nope, Apple says, The authentication provided doesn't match our records. I've heard that new Macs come with a disk image of the Developers Tool CD. I'm not sure where it's located, though; perhaps in the Applications Directory, in a folder called Installers, if my memory serves. - geoff
FW: How do you install modules in OS X?
The following is typical of what I would write that would work as a droplet
in MacPerl but that seems to silently fail as a DropScript application. I'm
I misunderstanding what DropScript does? Surely I have some things to learn
about working with Perl in OS X. If any one can point me in the right
direction and or rewrite the following examples to work in DropScript, it
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
(email may change line breaks...)
first example:
#!user/bin/perl
foreach $file (@ARGV) {
my $newname = $file;
$newname =~ tr/A-Z/a-z/;
# change $newname
rename($file, $newname) or
warn Couldn't rename $file to $newname: $!\n;
}
second example:
#!user/bin/perl -w
@files_dropped = @ARGV;
for (@files_dropped){
$_ =~ s!(.+):([^:]+)!$1:!;
opendir(DIR,$_);#look in the directory of those dropped files
@contents_each_dir = readdir(DIR);
for (@contents_each_dir){
print $_\n;
}
}
--
From: Pete Prodoehl
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
For creating droplets similar to how MacPerl did it, I use DropScript:
http://www.mit.edu/people/wsanchez/software/
Pete
Vic Norton wrote:
Hello all,
[snip]
(A future question: How do you make droplets in OS X?)
[snip]
Regards,
Vic
Re: How do you install modules in OS X?
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 03:52 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Which brings up a question that's been nagging at me. There must be some way to tell CPAN, don't upgrade Perl unless I tell you to, and if some other module you're trying to install needs a new version of Perl, try to find an older version of the module that doesn't, isn't there? It's a bug, not a feature. :-) The latest CPAN module doesn't have the bug. Also, when installed by itself, rather than as part of the Bundle::CPAN package, it has no dependencies that will trigger the bug in older versions. That's why I advised installing the latest CPAN.pm first, separately from Bundle::CPAN - because the bundle _does_ have at least one such dependency. sherm-- If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?
