Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
There have been CDs released with DRM (remember the Sony BMG rootkit for example?). They've all been abandoned as not being worth the effort and expense. Plus, these discs don't comply with the RedBook standard and can't carry the CDDA logo. I'm only slightly surprised that DVD and Bluray DRM hasn't been declared pointless as well. I suppose the thinking is that they're stopping the average user from ripping discs and they weren't going to sell anything to the pirates anyway. CDs were entrenched as DRM free. Movie discs started out with it. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Why does DRM allow me to import songs to a mac that has an optical drive built-in, but not to a mac that has been set up to share the other one's drive? Why do DRM laws allows you to rip an audio CD you own, but not a video DVD you own? The problem is when you expect laws to be logical and consistent, instead of arbitrary contracts for proxy initiation of government force architected by corporate lobbyists. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk -- arno s hautala/-| a...@alum.wpi.edu pgp b2c9d448 ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
Curious — have you tried using Target Disk Mode TDM on the old Mac Pro with the optical drive? -Carl On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and not with audio CDs. http://support.apple.com/en-us/ht5287 Note: These types of discs or activities are not supported by DVD or CD sharing: • DVD movies. • Audio CDs. • Copy protected discs such as game discs. • Install discs for an operating system such as Microsoft Windows (for use with Boot Camp), or Mac OS X. • Burn a CD or DVD Yes, that's the article I saw. So why aren't audio CDs supported? Is it a DRM thing? I own the audio CD and both computers. Why should I be allowed to import the songs on the CD to one Mac, but not to the other Mac that is sharing the drive? Both computers are authorized in iTunes. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
On 15 Dec 2014, at 12:35 PM, Carl Hoefs newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu wrote: Curious — have you tried using Target Disk Mode TDM on the old Mac Pro with the optical drive? -Carl Hi Carl, Someone else suggested that as well, and I have not yet tried it, but I was hoping for a more convenient solution. I don't really want to reboot (in Target Disk Mode) every time I want to import a CD (that I own!) into iTunes. On 15 Dec 2014, at 1:03 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote: That's guaranteed to work. I've done that myself. Only it won't help him if he has to access a networked machine at a physical distance. Damn DRM laws strike again. In my case, although the 2 macs are networked, they are both in the same room, so I could use Target Disk Mode if I wanted, but I was really hoping for something more convenient (via screen sharing and optical disk sharing). Why does DRM allow me to import songs to a mac that has an optical drive built-in, but not to a mac that has been set up to share the other one's drive? Both are authorized in iTunes, so that should show that both are my macs. With the new Mac Pros (and MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs and Mac Minis) not having an optical drive, is this a way to force folks like me to buy an external optical drive that can be connected directly? I can do that, but among other things, it adds clutter. Thanks, Gregg On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and not with audio CDs. http://support.apple.com/en-us/ht5287 Note: These types of discs or activities are not supported by DVD or CD sharing: • DVD movies. • Audio CDs. • Copy protected discs such as game discs. • Install discs for an operating system such as Microsoft Windows (for use with Boot Camp), or Mac OS X. • Burn a CD or DVD Yes, that's the article I saw. So why aren't audio CDs supported? Is it a DRM thing? I own the audio CD and both computers. Why should I be allowed to import the songs on the CD to one Mac, but not to the other Mac that is sharing the drive? Both computers are authorized in iTunes. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: Why does DRM allow me to import songs to a mac that has an optical drive built-in, but not to a mac that has been set up to share the other one's drive? Why do DRM laws allows you to rip an audio CD you own, but not a video DVD you own? The problem is when you expect laws to be logical and consistent, instead of arbitrary contracts for proxy initiation of government force architected by corporate lobbyists. ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
Re: import to iTunes from remote CD?
On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:00 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] di...@niehs.nih.gov wrote: One article, however, made it sound like this only works with data CDs and not with audio CDs. http://support.apple.com/en-us/ht5287 Note: These types of discs or activities are not supported by DVD or CD sharing: • DVD movies. • Audio CDs. • Copy protected discs such as game discs. • Install discs for an operating system such as Microsoft Windows (for use with Boot Camp), or Mac OS X. • Burn a CD or DVD Yes, that's the article I saw. So why aren't audio CDs supported? Is it a DRM thing? I own the audio CD and both computers. Why should I be allowed to import the songs on the CD to one Mac, but not to the other Mac that is sharing the drive? Both computers are authorized in iTunes. Gregg ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk
