Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Ken Cunningham]

> 
> Oh -- did you know that the filenames displayed in finder do not have to have 
> any correlation to the filenames as seen by the shell and other programs? Or 
> that Finder is perfectly happy to display two different "files with the same 
> name"?

In fact, I did notice that, and was rather confused by it. Maybe a fresh look 
in the morning might sort that out!

Ken
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Michael]

On 2017-05-27, at 11:24 PM, Ken Cunningham  
wrote:

> It sounds like you got a build working already, so you probably done care 
> about this anymore, but this Portfile

Works? It launches. It behaved so poorly that ... yuck.

> 
> 
> with it's associated patches actually does build the port.
> 
> I have not added in the deps yet. It builds just fine on my system, but I 
> have hundreds of deps installed already. You might run into a missing dep.
> 
> Also, although I downloaded the game from the wayback machine
> 
> 
> 
> I have not yet figured out where to exactly put all the files to make 
> everything work.
> 
> Perhaps you can help with that?

Sure. I'll go over all that in the morning when my brain is fresh.

The source code on github has a lot of bug fixes and patches (about 2 years of 
active development).

Oh -- did you know that the filenames displayed in finder do not have to have 
any correlation to the filenames as seen by the shell and other programs? Or 
that Finder is perfectly happy to display two different "files with the same 
name"?

> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> K
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Ken Cunningham]

It sounds like you got a build working already, so you probably done care about 
this anymore, but this Portfile



with it's associated patches actually does build the port.

I have not added in the deps yet. It builds just fine on my system, but I have 
hundreds of deps installed already. You might run into a missing dep.

Also, although I downloaded the game from the wayback machine



I have not yet figured out where to exactly put all the files to make 
everything work.

Perhaps you can help with that?

Thanks, 

K
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Mike Crawford]

You could install OS X in a VirtualBox virtual machine, then use
nothing but brew there.
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On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Ken Cunningham
 wrote:
> I'm about 95% finished a Portfile for OpenJK. It doesn't take but a few
> minutes to make one for a port like this. It's fully built and sitting on my
> hard drive. Just working out a patchfile or two for an openGL glitch on
> MacOS that is widely known, and I'll test it out. If it works, I'll send you
> the Portfile.
>
> Portfiles for games like this usually involve a couple of "hacks" that are
> generally frowned upon in the rather pure environment of the MacPorts repo.
> So you might need to install it "rogue". We'll see.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 2017-05-27, at 9:02 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:
>
> Yes, but I'd advise against it. I thought I had to for RVM and it caused me
> loads of trouble. Then I learned I could set it to MacPorts and a deleted
> brew and never looked back. I've been using MacPorts since before Intel, so
> I'm attached.
>
> —Mark
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>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Al Varnell  wrote:
>>
>> I'm told it can be done now, but can get messy. I gave up on brew several
>> years ago. Too many conflicts back then.
>>
>> Sent from Janet's iPad
>>
>> -Al-
>> --
>> Al Varnell
>> Mountain View, CA
>>
>> On May 27, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Michael  wrote:
>> > So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and
>> > Outcast https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have
>> > that installation pathname in their binaries.
>> >
>> > Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as
>> > ports?
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Michael]

On 2017-05-27, at 9:33 PM, Ken Cunningham  
wrote:

> I'm about 95% finished a Portfile for OpenJK. It doesn't take but a few 
> minutes to make one for a port like this. It's fully built and sitting on my 
> hard drive. Just working out a patchfile or two for an openGL glitch on MacOS 
> that is widely known, and I'll test it out. If it works, I'll send you the 
> Portfile.

Oh, do you mean any of the following:
1. Screen color calibration is ignored and it suddenly goes "very blue" as soon 
as an openGL program launches,
2. External trackpads (not USB, but with a system driver program) fail to work
3. "resolution settings" that forget about the size of the menu bar / title bar 
for a window mode
4. "resolution settings" that don't actually fetch the 16:10 settings? Or that 
don't fetch the actual monitor
5. Only the built-in monitor's calibration is ignored, an external monitor 
stays unaffected

I found it amazing that the original version could identify the retina 
resolutions, and use them (nb: the default was the raw 2800-something highest 
resolution, even if you asked for a window), while the OpenJK (I got it to work 
with a symlink to the macports SDL) wanted to give me IBM style 4:3 
resolutions. Neither could tell that I had a 720p external monitor, nor give me 
the resolutions for that, and the openJK was willing to give me a triple width 
(labeled surround) which seemed to assume I had a three monitor setup.

For what it's worth, I still hate games that assume "Your computer is nothing 
more than a 1984-era single process thing, just more powerful; we'll take over 
everything on your system/screen, because you can't possibly have anything else 
happening if you want to play a game".

(NB: If you have to hard-code in stuff like a 1024x576, or similar for a 698p 
(720 - 22), to get a window mode that actually fits on-screen because there's 
no programmatic way to fetch "available windowed space", that's OK with me :-).

> Portfiles for games like this usually involve a couple of "hacks" that are 
> generally frowned upon in the rather pure environment of the MacPorts repo. 
> So you might need to install it "rogue". We'll see.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 2017-05-27, at 9:02 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but I'd advise against it. I thought I had to for RVM and it caused me 
>> loads of trouble. Then I learned I could set it to MacPorts and a deleted 
>> brew and never looked back. I've been using MacPorts since before Intel, so 
>> I'm attached.
>> 
>> —Mark
>> ___
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>> 
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Al Varnell  wrote:
>> I'm told it can be done now, but can get messy. I gave up on brew several 
>> years ago. Too many conflicts back then.
>> 
>> Sent from Janet's iPad
>> 
>> -Al-
>> --
>> Al Varnell
>> Mountain View, CA
>> 
>> On May 27, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Michael  wrote:
>> > So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and 
>> > Outcast https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have 
>> > that installation pathname in their binaries.
>> >
>> > Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as ports?

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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Ken Cunningham]

I'm about 95% finished a Portfile for OpenJK. It doesn't take but a few minutes 
to make one for a port like this. It's fully built and sitting on my hard 
drive. Just working out a patchfile or two for an openGL glitch on MacOS that 
is widely known, and I'll test it out. If it works, I'll send you the Portfile.

Portfiles for games like this usually involve a couple of "hacks" that are 
generally frowned upon in the rather pure environment of the MacPorts repo. So 
you might need to install it "rogue". We'll see.

Ken


On 2017-05-27, at 9:02 PM, Mark Anderson wrote:

> Yes, but I'd advise against it. I thought I had to for RVM and it caused me 
> loads of trouble. Then I learned I could set it to MacPorts and a deleted 
> brew and never looked back. I've been using MacPorts since before Intel, so 
> I'm attached.
> 
> —Mark
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> 
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Al Varnell  wrote:
> I'm told it can be done now, but can get messy. I gave up on brew several 
> years ago. Too many conflicts back then.
> 
> Sent from Janet's iPad
> 
> -Al-
> --
> Al Varnell
> Mountain View, CA
> 
> On May 27, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Michael  wrote:
> > So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and 
> > Outcast https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have 
> > that installation pathname in their binaries.
> >
> > Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as ports?
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Mark Anderson]

Yes, but I'd advise against it. I thought I had to for RVM and it caused me
loads of trouble. Then I learned I could set it to MacPorts and a deleted
brew and never looked back. I've been using MacPorts since before Intel, so
I'm attached.

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On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Al Varnell  wrote:

> I'm told it can be done now, but can get messy. I gave up on brew several
> years ago. Too many conflicts back then.
>
> Sent from Janet's iPad
>
> -Al-
> --
> Al Varnell
> Mountain View, CA
>
> On May 27, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Michael  wrote:
> > So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and
> Outcast https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have
> that installation pathname in their binaries.
> >
> > Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as
> ports?
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Re: Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Al Varnell]

I'm told it can be done now, but can get messy. I gave up on brew several years 
ago. Too many conflicts back then.

Sent from Janet's iPad

-Al-
-- 
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Mountain View, CA

On May 27, 2017, at 7:13 PM, Michael  wrote:
> So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and 
> Outcast https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have 
> that installation pathname in their binaries.
> 
> Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as ports?
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Can brew and port be used on the same system?

[Michael]

So apparently the open source code version of Jedi Knights Academy and Outcast 
https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK rely on brew's SDL 2, and have that 
installation pathname in their binaries.

Can I install brew, with its use of /usr/local/, at the same time as ports?
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Error installing bash on Sierra

[Barrie Stott]

Some months ago I moved to Sierra from El Capitan and started upgrading my 
ports. Nothing went as it should and I became ill at about the same time. I 
abandoned everything until I was feeling better and that time has now arrived. 
Following the instructions in MacPorts Guide I cleaned out all my old ports 
and, using the list of ports given in myports.txt, began installing the ports 1 
by 1 from the beginning: ack, autoconf, automake, bash. (I would give variants 
but there has been none so far.)

All went quickly and smoothly until bash which gave errors. I enclose the log 
file but line 9 gave me some cause for concern:

:debug:main OS darwin/16.6.0 (Mac OS X 10.12) arch i386

My 'Apple->About this Mac' says I have Sierra 10.12.5 and, being on an iMac, it 
should say arch x86_64. Also my Updates log says that my latest Sierra update 
was to 10.12.5 on 24th May.

If anyone can give me suggestions as to where to go from here, I’m all ears.

Barrie.   

main.log
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