Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

James Linder wrote:

>> "In general, application bugs should be reported to the developers of the 
>> app (?upstream?), not MacPorts."
>> But I think it's safe to say that no-one* is running Xfce on Darwin/XQuartz, 
>> so this is Terra Incognita...
>> 
>> Anyway, the bug tracker is: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
>> 
>> * the jury is still out on "why would anyone want to do that", even though 
>> it "should" still be possible.
>> For most normal users, something like VirtualBSD would probably be a better 
>> option. Or at least packages.
>> 
>> See http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbsd.html
> 
> Pierre to add to comments above 
> I?m a great fan of xfce and run that on my many linux machines.
> Ideologically I hate apple, but apple make their hardware and software play 
> together very nicely e.g. bluetooth at boot, e.g. nice sound from their 
> crappy speakers e.g. heat from core sleep vs (hot) heat from core throttle 
> e.g. the wireless on my mac mini is perfect under OS X but rather iffy under 
> any linux distos that I have tried.

Running Darwin only was _always_ painful, and even X11.app isn't included with 
the OS anymore...
So there are not many good options available besides running XQuartz on OS X, 
for that hardware.

> After playing with xfce on the mac mini for a few days the only benefits I 
> could find were having X11 all the time (subtle reasons) and xfce4-terminal. 
> iTerm does a pretty equivalent job.

Actually neither Terminal nor Midori is a part of the default installation of 
Xfce any longer...
You are free to set any terminal emulator or web browser in the "Preferred 
Applications" setting.

http://www.xfce.org/projects
http://www.os-cillation.de/en/open-source-projects/xfce-terminal/
Last release (0.6.3) of this application was done two years ago.
It needed some patches to even show up under FreeBSD and Darwin.

The main "problem" with xfce4-terminal is that it uses the old VTE library from 
GNOME Terminal...
And just like GTK+ (with gtk3), that is now getting more and more 
GNOME-specific in later releases:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790186

> So I have to conclude that my mac(s) do exactly what I need, that mac ports 
> is the glue that turns this into plain sailing and the xfce port is very 
> interesting, but for me, what?s the point. Clementine (not mac ports) even 
> plays my oggs.

These are the only components remaining in the Xfce core:
xfwm4
xfce4-panel
xfdesktop
xfce4-session
xfce4-settings
xfce4-appfinder
exo
garcon
xfconf
Thunar

The rest are all applications (or dependencies/plugins):
midori
xfce4-terminal
mousepad
orage
ristretto
squeeze

But I can't really see any reasons to run any of them stand-alone, if not 
running a X11 desktop...
Theoretically you could have them running with the Quartz backend of GTK+/GDK, 
and not use X at all.

Though in that case, most people would prefer a native app ?

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Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD wrote:

> What is the role of xfce4-session ? Because other components (xfwm4, panel, 
> desktop) seem to work ...
> 
>>> /opt/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 113: 13661 Segmentation fault: 11 
>>> xfce4-session
>>>  
>>  This segfault needs to be debugged by someone. Thank you for trying it out, 
>> none the less!

According to the home page of the upstream project, <http://www.xfce.org/>, the 
Xfce Session Manager:
"Controls the login and power management of the desktop and allows you to store 
multiple login sessions."

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_session_manager

To fix, "someone" needs to build a debugging version of xfce4-session and run 
it with a debugger.
On the captain (OS X 10.11). That will give one a stack trace and a code 
reference to to go on...

File a bug: http://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets


"In general, application bugs should be reported to the developers of the app 
(“upstream”), not MacPorts."
But I think it's safe to say that no-one* is running Xfce on Darwin/XQuartz, so 
this is Terra Incognita...

Anyway, the bug tracker is: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/

* the jury is still out on "why would anyone want to do that", even though it 
"should" still be possible.
For most normal users, something like VirtualBSD would probably be a better 
option. Or at least packages.

See http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbsd.html

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Re: XFCE

[James Linder]

> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
> 
>> What is the role of xfce4-session ? Because other components (xfwm4, panel, 
>> desktop) seem to work ...
>> 
>>>> /opt/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 113: 13661 Segmentation fault: 11 
>>>> xfce4-session
>>>> 
>>> This segfault needs to be debugged by someone. Thank you for trying it out, 
>>> none the less!
> 
> According to the home page of the upstream project, <http://www.xfce.org/>, 
> the Xfce Session Manager:
> "Controls the login and power management of the desktop and allows you to 
> store multiple login sessions."
> 
> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_session_manager
> 
> To fix, "someone" needs to build a debugging version of xfce4-session and run 
> it with a debugger.
> On the captain (OS X 10.11). That will give one a stack trace and a code 
> reference to to go on...
> 
> File a bug: http://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets
> 
> 
> "In general, application bugs should be reported to the developers of the app 
> (?upstream?), not MacPorts."
> But I think it's safe to say that no-one* is running Xfce on Darwin/XQuartz, 
> so this is Terra Incognita...
> 
> Anyway, the bug tracker is: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
> 
> * the jury is still out on "why would anyone want to do that", even though it 
> "should" still be possible.
> For most normal users, something like VirtualBSD would probably be a better 
> option. Or at least packages.
> 
> See http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbsd.html

Pierre to add to comments above 
I’m a great fan of xfce and run that on my many linux machines.
Ideologically I hate apple, but apple make their hardware and software play 
together very nicely e.g. bluetooth at boot, e.g. nice sound from their crappy 
speakers e.g. heat from core sleep vs (hot) heat from core throttle e.g. the 
wireless on my mac mini is perfect under OS X but rather iffy under any linux 
distos that I have tried.

After playing with xfce on the mac mini for a few days the only benefits I 
could find were having X11 all the time (subtle reasons) and xfce4-terminal. 
iTerm does a pretty equivalent job.

So I have to conclude that my mac(s) do exactly what I need, that mac ports is 
the glue that turns this into plain sailing and the xfce port is very 
interesting, but for me, what’s the point. Clementine (not mac ports) even 
plays my oggs.
James

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Re: XFCE

[Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD]

 
What is the role of xfce4-session ? Because other components (xfwm4, panel, 
desktop) seem to work ...
Pierre-henri
 
 
 
 
> Message du 07/01/16 00:42
> De : "Anders F Björklund" 
> A : "Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD" 

> Copie à : macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
> Objet : Re: XFCE
> 
> Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:
> 
> > Ok, now I have installed xfce (not without pain ...). But it fails to 
> > launch ...
> > 
> > /opt/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
> 
> Weird that this doesn't seem to be using launchd, but whatever. Maybe it 
> changed ?
> 
> > /opt/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 113: 13661 Segmentation fault: 11 
> > xfce4-session
> 
> This segfault needs to be debugged by someone. Thank you for trying it out, 
> none the less!
> 
> 
> There's also some unresolved issue with xfsettingsd not starting up properly 
> (autostart)...
> This is the reason for the wrong theme and missing icons, unless hacking 
> gtkrc as in the Wiki.
> 
> It's supposed to be reading those from 
> ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
> Probably something launchd: "xfsettingsd-ERROR **: Failed to connect to the 
> dbus session bus."
> 
> --anders
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Re: XFCE

[Ryan Schmidt]

On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Anders F Björklund wrote:

> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> 
 Now the installation fails at xfconf:
 :info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser 
 perl module is required for intltool
>>> 
>>> Hmm, that part should probably be removed (as per 
>>> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30937)
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, could you please just `sudo port install perl5 +perl5_22 
>>> p5.22-xml-parser` ?
>> 
>> This post explains how maintainers should handle the intltool situation:
>> 
>> https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2015-April/030215.html
> 
> Wow, that's a pretty intense workaround - having to autogen all ports ? :-O

Only all ports that use intltool. :/


> The perl situation sure hasn't improved much in all those years since last...
> https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2011-September/016129.html

Yup. Apparently the intltool 0.51 update makes the previous method insufficient 
requiring the configure script to now be regenerated.


> Fixed, r144346.

Thanks.


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Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

Ryan Schmidt wrote:

>>> Now the installation fails at xfconf:
>>> :info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser 
>>> perl module is required for intltool
>> 
>> Hmm, that part should probably be removed (as per 
>> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30937)
>> 
>> Meanwhile, could you please just `sudo port install perl5 +perl5_22 
>> p5.22-xml-parser` ?
> 
> This post explains how maintainers should handle the intltool situation:
> 
> https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2015-April/030215.html

Wow, that's a pretty intense workaround - having to autogen all ports ? :-O

The perl situation sure hasn't improved much in all those years since last...
https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2011-September/016129.html

Fixed, r144346.

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Re: xfce

[James Linder]

> On 7 Jan 2016, at 12:44 PM, Ryan Schmidt <ryandes...@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 9:57 PM, James Linder wrote:
> 
>> I have built xfce on el Capitan
>> I filed 2 tickets about xfce failing to build, 1 a red-herring (for non 
>> english speakers that is a distraction with no reason) 1 about SIP that is 
>> real (and sorry Ryan for getting the ticket detail wrong), but it works 
>> beautifully.
>> Thanks to the maintainers - it was lots of work.
>> All the information to make it run is easily available, just it does not run 
>> out-the-box (xfce runs on Quartz so you need that and xinit startup stuff)
> 
> Quartz is a framework inside OS X. If you have OS X, you have Quartz.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)
> 
> Perhaps you meant XQuartz? i.e. X running on Quartz?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XQuartz
> 
> If so, then you should be able to use either the separate XQuartz 
> distribution available at www.xquartz.org or the xorg-server port in 
> MacPorts; they are the same software.

My excuse is that it is 40C in Perth today (now)
My bad of course I mean XQuartz - h I see the mail corrects me! I write 
XQuartz and it is ‘corrected’ to Quartz
also
>> Thanks to the maintainers - it was lots of work.
sound sarcastic
It should say
Thanks yo the maintainers - they have done lots of work.


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xfce

[James Linder]

I have built xfce on el Capitan
I filed 2 tickets about xfce failing to build, 1 a red-herring (for non english 
speakers that is a distraction with no reason) 1 about SIP that is real (and 
sorry Ryan for getting the ticket detail wrong), but it works beautifully.
Thanks to the maintainers - it was lots of work.
All the information to make it run is easily available, just it does not run 
out-the-box (xfce runs on Quartz so you need that and xinit startup stuff)
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Re: xfce

[Ryan Schmidt]

On Jan 6, 2016, at 9:57 PM, James Linder wrote:

> I have built xfce on el Capitan
> I filed 2 tickets about xfce failing to build, 1 a red-herring (for non 
> english speakers that is a distraction with no reason) 1 about SIP that is 
> real (and sorry Ryan for getting the ticket detail wrong), but it works 
> beautifully.
> Thanks to the maintainers - it was lots of work.
> All the information to make it run is easily available, just it does not run 
> out-the-box (xfce runs on Quartz so you need that and xinit startup stuff)

Quartz is a framework inside OS X. If you have OS X, you have Quartz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)

Perhaps you meant XQuartz? i.e. X running on Quartz?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XQuartz

If so, then you should be able to use either the separate XQuartz distribution 
available at www.xquartz.org or the xorg-server port in MacPorts; they are the 
same software.

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Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:

> Ok, now I have installed xfce (not without pain ...). But it fails to launch 
> ...
> 
> /opt/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0

Weird that this doesn't seem to be using launchd, but whatever. Maybe it 
changed ?

> /opt/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 113: 13661 Segmentation fault: 11  
> xfce4-session

This segfault needs to be debugged by someone. Thank you for trying it out, 
none the less!


There's also some unresolved issue with xfsettingsd not starting up properly 
(autostart)...
This is the reason for the wrong theme and missing icons, unless hacking gtkrc 
as in the Wiki.

It's supposed to be reading those from 
~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
Probably something launchd: "xfsettingsd-ERROR **: Failed to connect to the 
dbus session bus."

--anders

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Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

6 jan 2016 kl. 21.03 skrev Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:

> Now the installation fails at xfconf:
> :info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser 
> perl module is required for intltool

Hmm, that part should probably be removed (as per 
https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30937)

Meanwhile, could you please just `sudo port install perl5 +perl5_22 
p5.22-xml-parser` ?

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Re: XFCE

[Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD]

i

> >> Anyway, now the ports *have* been updated to the latest version Xfce 4.12 
> >> so "should" work.
> >> This includes the desktop, with Thunar and Terminal. See screenshot from 
> >> XQuartz on Mavericks:
> >> 
> > Thank you for the upgrade ! I was very happy with KDE 3.5 with X11 on OS X 
> > Lion and I am trying to have something similar on OS El Capitan ... However 
> > the installation of Xfce still fails. More precisely it fails with exo. I 
> > get the following :
> > 
> > :info:configure checking for libxfce4ui-1 >= 4.10.0... not found
> > :info:configure *** The required package libxfce4ui-1 was not found on your 
> > system.
> > :info:configure *** Please install libxfce4ui-1 (atleast version 4.10.0) or 
> > adjust
> 
> Right, seems that I missed a spot (another one, typo:ed an URL too...)
> Fixed in https://trac.macports.org/changeset/144277 - please try again.
> 
> Terminal is available as "xfce4-terminal" now, and has been made optional.
> Removed the browser ("midori") too, since it wasn't always up to date ?
>

Now the installation fails at xfconf:
Pierre-Henri

:info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl m
odule is required for intltool
:info:configure Command failed:  cd 
"/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_xfce_xfconf/xfconf/work/xfconf-4.12.0"
 && ./configure --prefix=/opt/local --disable-visibility 
:info:configure Exit code: 2
:error:configure Failed to configure xfconf, consult 
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_tarballs_ports_xfce_xfconf/xfconf/work/xfconf-4.12.0/config.log
:error:configure org.macports.configure for port xfconf returned: configure 
failure: command execution failed
:debug:configure Error code: NONE
:debug:configure Backtrace: configure failure: command execution failed
    while executing
"portconfigure::configure_main org.macports.configure"
    ("eval" body line 1
 
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Re: XFCE

[Ryan Schmidt]

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Anders F Björklund  wrote:
> 
> 6 jan 2016 kl. 21.03 skrev Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:
> 
>> Now the installation fails at xfconf:
>> :info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser 
>> perl module is required for intltool
> 
> Hmm, that part should probably be removed (as per 
> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30937)
> 
> Meanwhile, could you please just `sudo port install perl5 +perl5_22 
> p5.22-xml-parser` ?

This post explains how maintainers should handle the intltool situation:

https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-dev/2015-April/030215.html


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Re: XFCE

[Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD]

Ok, now I have installed xfce (not without pain ...). But it fails to launch ...
/opt/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
/opt/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 113: 13661 Segmentation fault: 11  
xfce4-session
/opt/X11/bin/xinit: connection to X server lost
 
 
waiting for X server to shut down 
 
 
I put exec startxfce4
 
in .xinitrc.d/99-xfce.sh
 
I mention that if I put instead exec icewm e.g. everything is OK.
Pierre-Henri
> Message du 06/01/16 21:25
> De : "Anders F Björklund" I put 
> A : "Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD" 

> Copie à : macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
> Objet : Re: XFCE
> 
> 6 jan 2016 kl. 21.03 skrev Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:
> 
> > Now the installation fails at xfconf:
> > :info:configure checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser 
> > perl module is required for intltool
> 
> Hmm, that part should probably be removed (as per 
> https://trac.macports.org/ticket/30937)
> 
> Meanwhile, could you please just `sudo port install perl5 +perl5_22 
> p5.22-xml-parser` ?
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Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

4 jan 2016 kl. 22.21 skrev Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD:

> 
>> Anyway, now the ports *have* been updated to the latest version Xfce 4.12 so 
>> "should" work.
>> This includes the desktop, with Thunar and Terminal. See screenshot from 
>> XQuartz on Mavericks:
>> 
> Thank you for the upgrade ! I was very happy with KDE 3.5 with X11 on OS X 
> Lion and I am trying to have something similar on OS El Capitan ... However 
> the installation of Xfce still fails. More precisely it fails with exo. I get 
> the following :
> 
> :info:configure checking for libxfce4ui-1 >= 4.10.0... not found
> :info:configure *** The required package libxfce4ui-1 was not found on your 
> system.
> :info:configure *** Please install libxfce4ui-1 (atleast version 4.10.0) or 
> adjust

Right, seems that I missed a spot (another one, typo:ed an URL too...)
Fixed in https://trac.macports.org/changeset/144277 - please try again.

Terminal is available as "xfce4-terminal" now, and has been made optional.
Removed the browser ("midori") too, since it wasn't always up to date ?

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Re: XFCE

[James Linder]

> On 6 Jan 2016, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
> 
>>>> 
>>>> OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
>>>> package xfconf ...
>> 
>> The old ports for Xfce 4.6 and the (unreleased) Xfce 4.8 hadn't been touched 
>> in years.
>> After PureDarwin, there just wasn't any motivation. Easier to just run 
>> FreeBSD instead ?
>> 
>> Anyway, now the ports *have* been updated to the latest version Xfce 4.12 so 
>> "should" work.
>> This includes the desktop, with Thunar and Terminal. See screenshot from 
>> XQuartz on Mavericks:
>> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for the upgrade ! I was very happy with KDE 3.5 with X11 on OS X 
> Lion and I am trying to have something similar on OS El Capitan ... However 
> the installation of Xfce still fails. More precisely it fails with exo. I get 
> the following :
> info:configure checking for libxfce4ui-1 >= 4.10.0... not found
> :info:configure *** The required package libxfce4ui-1 was not found on your 
> syst
> em.
> :info:configure *** Please install libxfce4ui-1 (atleast version 4.10.0) or 
> adju

It being rather silly to try installing a port that fails to install, I’m 
waiting, but I will try snd test as soon as it is reported to work.
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Re: XFCE

[Ryan Schmidt]

On Jan 5, 2016, at 6:33 PM, James Linder <j...@tigger.ws> wrote:

>> Thank you for the upgrade ! I was very happy with KDE 3.5 with X11 on OS X 
>> Lion and I am trying to have something similar on OS El Capitan ... However 
>> the installation of Xfce still fails. More precisely it fails with exo. I 
>> get the following :
>> info:configure checking for libxfce4ui-1 >= 4.10.0... not found
>> :info:configure *** The required package libxfce4ui-1 was not found on your 
>> syst
>> em.
>> :info:configure *** Please install libxfce4ui-1 (atleast version 4.10.0) or 
>> adju
> 
> It being rather silly to try installing a port that fails to install, I’m 
> waiting, but I will try snd test as soon as it is reported to work.

I believe it was fixed; see:

https://trac.macports.org/changeset/144277


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Re: XFCE

[Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD]

 
> Message du 03/01/16 10:44
> De : "Anders F Björklund" 
> A : "David Evans" 
> Copie à : macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
> Objet : Re: XFCE, Gnome
> 
> 3 jan 2016 kl. 01.35 skrev David Evans:
> > On 1/2/16 6:25 AM, Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD wrote:
> 
> >> OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
> >> 
> >> Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
> >> package xfconf ...
> 
> The old ports for Xfce 4.6 and the (unreleased) Xfce 4.8 hadn't been touched 
> in years.
> After PureDarwin, there just wasn't any motivation. Easier to just run 
> FreeBSD instead ?
> 
> Anyway, now the ports *have* been updated to the latest version Xfce 4.12 so 
> "should" work.
> This includes the desktop, with Thunar and Terminal. See screenshot from 
> XQuartz on Mavericks:
> 


Thank you for the upgrade ! I was very happy with KDE 3.5 with X11 on OS X Lion 
and I am trying to have something similar on OS El Capitan ... However the 
installation of Xfce still fails. More precisely it fails with exo. I get the 
following :
info:configure checking for libxfce4ui-1 >= 4.10.0... not found
:info:configure *** The required package libxfce4ui-1 was not found on your syst
em.
:info:configure *** Please install libxfce4ui-1 (atleast version 4.10.0) or adju
 
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Re: XFCE, Gnome

[Anders F Björklund]

3 jan 2016 kl. 01.35 skrev David Evans:
> On 1/2/16 6:25 AM, Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD wrote:

>> OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
>> 
>> Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
>> package xfconf ...

The old ports for Xfce 4.6 and the (unreleased) Xfce 4.8 hadn't been touched in 
years.
After PureDarwin, there just wasn't any motivation. Easier to just run FreeBSD 
instead ?

Anyway, now the ports *have* been updated to the latest version Xfce 4.12 so 
"should" work.
This includes the desktop, with Thunar and Terminal. See screenshot from 
XQuartz on Mavericks:

http://trac.macports.org/wiki/Xfce

>> I have installed gnome. However I am unable to launch a gnome-session. What 
>> are the 'right' configuration files ?
> 
> There have been a lot of changes with gnome-session and the gnome desktop 
> evironment in general and the old method of
> launching a gnome session on OS X doesn't work anymore.  This is largely to 
> do with gnome-shell requiring X11
> compositing features that are not likely to be implemented in the Apple X11 
> server any time soom.

It seems like the dbus session scripts aren't too good about using launchd, as 
in #41506 (et al).
Ported the same workaround to xfce4-session, instead of complaining about 
$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS

Then again launching a gnome session on Linux (without composing) hardly works 
anymore, either...
Also posted a fix for VTE (from FreeBSD), since it was trying to use getpt 
instead of posix_openpt.

http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/xfce/vte-gtk2-xfce/files/patch-getpt.diff?rev=144133

I have disabled some "features" too. Way too much bloat, with the gtk3 and 
py27-numpy dependencies!

> There's been some renewed work upstream on a gnome-flashback (previously 
> known as gnome-fallback) session that works
> around this but it's definitely a work in progress. If you'll file a ticket 
> against gnome-session, I'll up the priority
> on this issue and provide some status on the current situation and progress 
> as it occurs.

Seems like it would be easier with something like MATE, since it's not the same 
GNOME anymore.
Like in FreeBSD (x11/gnome2) ? The MacPorts wiki page could use some updating 
too, it seems:

http://trac.macports.org/wiki/GNOME

--anders
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XFCE, Gnome

[Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD]

Hi,
OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
 
Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
package xfconf ...
 
I have installed gnome. However I am unable to launch a gnome-session. What are 
the 'right' configuration files ?
 
Thanks for your help!
P-H
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Re: XFCE, Gnome

[David Evans]

On 1/2/16 6:25 AM, Pierre Henri CHAUDOUARD wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
> package xfconf ...
> 
>  
> 
> I have installed gnome. However I am unable to launch a gnome-session. What 
> are the 'right' configuration files ?

There have been a lot of changes with gnome-session and the gnome desktop 
evironment in general and the old method of
launching a gnome session on OS X doesn't work anymore.  This is largely to do 
with gnome-shell requiring X11
compositing features that are not likely to be implemented in the Apple X11 
server any time soom.

There's been some renewed work upstream on a gnome-flashback (previously known 
as gnome-fallback) session that works
around this but it's definitely a work in progress. If you'll file a ticket 
against gnome-session, I'll up the priority
on this issue and provide some status on the current situation and progress as 
it occurs.

> Thanks for your help!
> 
> P-H
> 

Thanks for your interest, P-H!

Dave

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Re: XFCE, Gnome

[James Linder]

> On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> OS X 10.11.2, Xcode 7.2.
> ?
> Has anyone managed to install xfce ? For me, the installation fails at the 
> package xfconf ...
> ?
> I have installed gnome. However I am unable to launch a gnome-session. What 
> are the 'right' configuration files 

I tried a while ago (umm mavericks) then researched and found that this port 
has not worked for a quite some time.
Methinks that there is a lot of work and philosophy involved before it can be 
made to run. EG X11 or aquaterm
there are not many ‘apps’ that run and make this aquaterm window look and feel 
like xfce.
I use virtual box and seamless mode for the stuff I want e.g. rosegarden
Running the whole system as an xfce machine (I used suse and ubuntu) shows 
apple make their hardware work really nicely eg of things that work flawlessly 
under OS X but are iffy on linux (iMac27) bluetooth. wireless, sound (apple 
make the crappy speakers sound good), HEAT (boy it runs hot on cpu throttling 
vs core sleep)
MS are nearly as evil as apple but they make nice software. I use their office 
suite that is much better on OSX than on crossover. My wife uses the adobe 
tools and they too work well.
James
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Xfce-panel refusing to install

[Jacob Walchuk]

Hello, I’m having a problem, the xfce panel won’t install. The logs are in a 
pastebin: http://pastebin.com/UD399vuW http://pastebin.com/UD399vuW

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Re: xfce

[Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 20:39, Loren M. Lang lor...@north-winds.org wrote:

 On 5/12/2013 5:56 PM, James Linder wrote:
 Hi
 for fun I decided to try xfce.
 That failed to build and I was quickly led to tickets nearly 2 years old, 
 there after a deathly 'ush. Is xfce a pipe dream?
 
 What are the errors and/or bug reports?

I assume all these build failures:
https://trac.macports.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedport=~xfce




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Re: xfce

[Loren M. Lang]

On 5/12/2013 5:56 PM, James Linder wrote:
 Hi
 for fun I decided to try xfce.
 That failed to build and I was quickly led to tickets nearly 2 years old, 
 there after a deathly 'ush. Is xfce a pipe dream?

What are the errors and/or bug reports?


 cheers
 James
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Re: xfce

[Lawrence Velázquez]

On May 12, 2013, at 8:56 PM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:

 for fun I decided to try xfce.
 That failed to build and I was quickly led to tickets nearly 2 years old, 
 there after a deathly 'ush. Is xfce a pipe dream?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Xfce 4.4.1

[Harley Laue]

It looks as though the MacPorts version of Xfce 4 is out of date (well,
it's up-to-date for the 4.2.x branch, but not for the current stable
4.4.x branch.) I took some time and updated xfce to 4.4.1. If anyone
would be willing to look it over and give any pointers to things that
might need cleaned up it'd be appreciated (exo comes to mind.) You'll
need to remove the following before extracting the attachment:
x11/Terminal
x11/*xfce*
x11/xfwm*
x11/xfdesktop
x11/xfprint
devel/*xfce*

There may be a few other 

I arranged these into their own xfce group to keep all the xfce
programs/libraries in one directory (similar to how gnome/kde/zope/etc
are grouped.)  This made the most sense to me so I could at least easily
find them when working on them.

Just a few notes, very little was actually used from the previous ports,
there's bit and pieces and I wasn't thinking when I was  doing some
cleaning up  that I should have  probably left the original
contributor/maintainer's name there (even though most were
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I think xfprint was one  of the only ones to
still have a maintainer's name included with it.

Normally I don't cross post like this, but it's somewhat relevant to
both.


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xfce, Apple X11, and mouse emulation

[Fred and Margot Dushin]

I've built fresh copies of xfce4 on a macbook and MDD G4, and I get  
the same behavior:


I can get XFCE to come up under Apple's X11 (startxfce4 in  
~/.xinitrc), but there seems to be something messed up with button  
clicks/mapping -- I can't get XFCE to respect any button clicks,  
either in the panel, or on the desktop.


If I turn off Emulate three button mouse in X11 | Preferences...,  
then I need to use the option key to get the WM to listen to left  
clicks.  With the option key down, the WM will also honor right  
clicks on the mouse (logitech and Dell 3 button mice tested).  I need  
to use the command key to get the WM to honor window closes (left  
click on X button).


It's also a bit strange that if I use key combinations a number of  
times on the same widget (e.g., settings icon in panel), I no longer  
need to use the option key.  The WM/server appears to learn.  Some  
dialogs in Xfce require no modifiers.  Strange.


As I said, I can reproduce on an intel and ppc box.  Anyone else see  
this?  Or know anything about mouse button mappings in X11?


(Trying to reproduce in Gnome, but I'm currently hung up on iconv  
issue -- see previous post).


Thanks,
Fred
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