list element in braces followed by } instead of space

2008-09-22 Thread Darren Weber
I have a local port repository under my home path where I am testing a
new port for libpqxx (see attached).  When I try to install this port,
I get the following:

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
Password:
Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
---  Fetching libpqxx
---  Verifying checksum(s) for libpqxx
---  Extracting libpqxx
---  Configuring libpqxx
---  Building libpqxx with target all
---  Staging libpqxx into destroot
---  Installing libpqxx 2.6.9_0
list element in braces followed by } instead of space
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


Thereafter, I can't do anything with this port, eg:

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port lint libpqxx
list element in braces followed by } instead of space
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port clean --all libpqxx
Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
list element in braces followed by } instead of space
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
list element in braces followed by } instead of space
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


Is this a sign of corruption somewhere in the macport registry or something?

For instance:

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ port -v installed
Error: port installed failed: list element in braces followed by }
instead of space
No ports are installed.

If so, how do I fix this?

Thanks, Darren


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Re: list element in braces followed by } instead of space

2008-09-22 Thread Darren Weber
I've also run this debug command:

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ port -d installed
DEBUG: list element in braces followed by } instead of space
while executing
array set receipt_$ref $receipt_contents
(procedure receipt_flat::open_entry line 84)
invoked from within
${macports::registry.format}::open_entry $name $version $revision $variants
(procedure open_entry line 4)
invoked from within
open_entry $iname $iversion $irevision $ivariants
(procedure registry::installed line 13)
invoked from within
registry::installed
Error: port installed failed: list element in braces followed by }
instead of space
No ports are installed.



On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Darren Weber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a local port repository under my home path where I am testing a
 new port for libpqxx (see attached).  When I try to install this port,
 I get the following:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
 Password:
 Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
 ---  Fetching libpqxx
 ---  Verifying checksum(s) for libpqxx
 ---  Extracting libpqxx
 ---  Configuring libpqxx
 ---  Building libpqxx with target all
 ---  Staging libpqxx into destroot
 ---  Installing libpqxx 2.6.9_0
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


 Thereafter, I can't do anything with this port, eg:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port lint libpqxx
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port clean --all libpqxx
 Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


 Is this a sign of corruption somewhere in the macport registry or something?

 For instance:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ port -v installed
 Error: port installed failed: list element in braces followed by }
 instead of space
 No ports are installed.

 If so, how do I fix this?

 Thanks, Darren

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Re: list element in braces followed by } instead of space

2008-09-22 Thread Darren Weber
Yes, Ryan, the receipt contained a syntax problem, related to the
long_description.  I created a ticket about that problem, where I
noted my solution (#16619).

I've now created a new ticket to incorporate a port for libpqxx, Ticket #16621.

It installs and uninstalls for me.  It should be fully tested for
functional integrity against the postgresql83 port.  I've not had time
to configure and run the functional tests.

Thanks!


On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sep 22, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Darren Weber wrote:

 I have a local port repository under my home path where I am testing a
 new port for libpqxx (see attached).  When I try to install this port,
 I get the following:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
 Password:
 Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
 ---  Fetching libpqxx
 ---  Verifying checksum(s) for libpqxx
 ---  Extracting libpqxx
 ---  Configuring libpqxx
 ---  Building libpqxx with target all
 ---  Staging libpqxx into destroot
 ---  Installing libpqxx 2.6.9_0
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


 Thereafter, I can't do anything with this port, eg:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port lint libpqxx
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port clean --all libpqxx
 Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install libpqxx
 list element in braces followed by } instead of space
 Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


 Is this a sign of corruption somewhere in the macport registry or
 something?

 Yes, this sounds like something wrong got written to the registry. Is it
 even called the registry? I don't know.

 Check the file /opt/local/var/macports/receipts/libpqxx/receipt.bz2 -- copy
 it somewhere else, decompress it, look into it, see if it looks like valid
 Tcl. Or attach it here and I'll look at it.

 My first guess would be the newlines in your long_description. I'm building
 it now myself to see what's happening, but it will take awhile to build the
 postgresql83 dependency and its dependencies.


 For instance:

 [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ port -v installed
 Error: port installed failed: list element in braces followed by }
 instead of space
 No ports are installed.

 If so, how do I fix this?



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Re: ruby - pg

2008-10-10 Thread Darren Weber
Hi Tom,

I'm playing around with the postgresql83 port (it's not my port, but I
want to tweak a few things for it, so I have a copy of it in my
private port repository).  For postgresql 8.3.4, there is no build
configure option to enable ruby (as there is for perl, python, tcl),
but there is a port called rb-plruby that might provide ruby support
within postgres.

I'm not familiar with the port for 'ruby' or the port for
'rb-rubygems' and the operation of gems on OSX.  I've done a quick
google search and found this:

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/jdavis/index.php?/archives/5-ruby-pg-is-now-the-official-postgres-ruby-gem.html

Indications from the page linked above are that this problem requires
a variant for the ruby port or something, as the postgresql connection
might be a build option for ruby (not vice-versa - but see rb-plruby).
 So, I suggest you contact the ruby port maintainers and see if you
can get a variant on the ruby port.

If that might depend on something in postgresql83, then I might be
able to help with that side of things.

Best, Darren

PS, If you want to see what happens to any port, try: port edit portname

PPS, The rb-postgres port uses the ruby portgroup for config, see
http://guide.macports.org/chunked/reference.portgroup.html



On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well this is a sticky spot.

 None of the modules/packages/gems/ work and here's more.
 And now I will have three different installations of postgres running on
 a small macbook.  I'm not sure this makes sense anymore.

 How is it that Perl has a DBI that is largely libpq independent and Ruby
 is largely .. not.  Sign of maturity of the language?




 Bryan Blackburn wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:23:19PM -0400, Tom Allison said:
 I'm struggling here between the different mailing lists and postings.

 What I would like to get running is the ruby DBI on postgresql 8.3.

 macports seems to support 8.1 only.
 rubygems is mostly DOA every time I try to install and run them.

 They install without error, but cannot be loaded.

 Is there a path I need to set?
 Some other method?

 There's a lot pf pages out there talking about a lot of different
 packages available.  As near as I can tell - ruby-pg is the one I want
 to install under the DBI library.


 For Ruby and DBI, it looks like you want to use the rb-dbi port with the
 dbd_pg variant for PostGreSQL.  The dbd_pg variant requires the rb-postgres
 port which is what brings in postgresql81 unfortantely; there is a ticket
 about this:

 http://trac.macports.org/ticket/12703

 Bryan


 One thing that is a must have is prepared statements for performance.  I
 don't think ORM do this very well.
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Re: ruby - pg

2008-10-10 Thread Darren Weber
I've thrown together a new Portfile for ruby-pg, but I don't have the
expertise to test it and debug it.  I've put up a ticket for it at
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/16814

Can someone with ruby experience get this working?  It could be called
from rb-dbi as a new variant that works with postgresql83.

Best, Darren


On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well this is a sticky spot.

 None of the modules/packages/gems/ work and here's more.
 And now I will have three different installations of postgres running on
 a small macbook.  I'm not sure this makes sense anymore.

 How is it that Perl has a DBI that is largely libpq independent and Ruby
 is largely .. not.  Sign of maturity of the language?




 Bryan Blackburn wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:23:19PM -0400, Tom Allison said:
 I'm struggling here between the different mailing lists and postings.

 What I would like to get running is the ruby DBI on postgresql 8.3.

 macports seems to support 8.1 only.
 rubygems is mostly DOA every time I try to install and run them.

 They install without error, but cannot be loaded.

 Is there a path I need to set?
 Some other method?

 There's a lot pf pages out there talking about a lot of different
 packages available.  As near as I can tell - ruby-pg is the one I want
 to install under the DBI library.


 For Ruby and DBI, it looks like you want to use the rb-dbi port with the
 dbd_pg variant for PostGreSQL.  The dbd_pg variant requires the rb-postgres
 port which is what brings in postgresql81 unfortantely; there is a ticket
 about this:

 http://trac.macports.org/ticket/12703

 Bryan


 One thing that is a must have is prepared statements for performance.  I
 don't think ORM do this very well.
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Port fails to install as image. Problem with cleaning the registry.

2008-10-13 Thread Darren Weber
I have a sandbox for some ports, including postgresql83-server (see
attached) and I've got some issues with my installation.  I'm curious about
why the 'port clean --all portname' doesn't remove the registry entry?
Here's a terminal session where I incur an issue with the registry and my
port fails to install as an image:

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install postgresql83-server
Password:
Portfile changed since last build; discarding previous state.
---  Fetching postgresql83-server
---  Verifying checksum(s) for postgresql83-server
---  Extracting postgresql83-server
---  Configuring postgresql83-server
---  Building postgresql83-server with target all
---  Staging postgresql83-server into destroot
---  Creating launchd control script
###
# A startup item has been generated that will aid in
# starting postgresql83-server with launchd. It is disabled
# by default. Execute the following command to start it,
# and to cause it to launch at startup:
#
# sudo launchctl load -w
/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist
###
---  Installing postgresql83-server 8.3.4_0
Error: Target org.macports.install returned: Registry error:
postgresql83-server @8.3.4_0 already registered as installed.  Please
uninstall it first.
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall postgresql83-server
---  Uninstalling postgresql83-server 8.3.4_0
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port clean --all postgresql83-server
---  Cleaning postgresql83-server
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install postgresql83-server
---  Fetching postgresql83-server
---  Verifying checksum(s) for postgresql83-server
---  Extracting postgresql83-server
---  Configuring postgresql83-server
---  Building postgresql83-server with target all
---  Staging postgresql83-server into destroot
---  Creating launchd control script
###
# A startup item has been generated that will aid in
# starting postgresql83-server with launchd. It is disabled
# by default. Execute the following command to start it,
# and to cause it to launch at startup:
#
# sudo launchctl load -w
/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist
###
---  Installing postgresql83-server 8.3.4_0
Error: Target org.macports.install returned: Registry error:
postgresql83-server @8.3.4_0 already registered as installed.  Please
uninstall it first.
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo rm
/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/postgresql83-server/8.3.4_0/receipt.bz2
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/ports ]$ sudo port install postgresql83-server
---  Installing postgresql83-server 8.3.4_0

To create a database instance, after install do
%% sudo mkdir -p /opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb
 %% sudo chown postgres:postgres /opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb
%% sudo su postgres -c '/opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin/initdb -D
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb'

To tweak your DBMS, consider increasing kern.sysv.shmmax
by adding an increased kern.sysv.shmmax .. to /etc/sysctl.conf

To load the startup deamon, run:
%% sudo launchctl load -w
/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist

To unload the startup deamon, run:
%% sudo launchctl unload -w
/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist

Run 'port install pgAdmin3' to administer PostgreSQL
Run 'port install slony1' to manage replication for PostgreSQL

---  Activating postgresql83-server 8.3.4_0
Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: Image error:
postgresql83-server @8.3.4_0 not installed as an image.
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


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Is there a print CSS for macports guide?

2008-10-14 Thread Darren Weber
Does anyone have a CSS for printing the macports guide?  I assume the
web-page(s) for the guide are displayed with CSS controls.  Can we get rid
of the navigation (div?) and have the main content (div?) spread over the
full-width of the page when printing?  It should be easy to copy the screen
CSS and modify the media tag for printing.

This simple change would allow us to get a nice .pdf version when printing
it on OSX too.  Maybe a link to such a .pdf version would be really useful
in the introduction?

It would be useful to have a link in the macports guide introduction to the
chunked version too, ie:
http://guide.macports.org/chunked/
I only found it by a google search, there's no link to it from the macports
site that I've seen yet.
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daemondo with postgresql83-server

2008-10-17 Thread Darren Weber
I'm playing with a sandbox version of postgresql83-server and it contains
the following startup config:


set libdir  ${prefix}/lib/postgresql83
set logdir  ${prefix}/var/log/postgresql83
set dbdir   ${prefix}/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb
set dbpid   ${dbdir}/postmaster.pid
set dbuser  postgres
set dbgrp   postgres

startupitem.create  yes
startupitem.name${name}
startupitem.logfile ${logdir}/postgres.log
startupitem.logevents   yes
startupitem.initPGCTL=${libdir}/bin/pg_ctl
startupitem.start   \
su ${dbuser} -c \\${PGCTL} -D \${POSTGRESQL83DATA:=${dbdir}} start -w
-l ${logdir}/postgres.log -o \\\-i -l
startupitem.stop\
su ${dbuser} -c \\${PGCTL} -D \${POSTGRESQL83DATA:=${dbdir}} stop -s
-m fast\
startupitem.restart \
su ${dbuser} -c \\${PGCTL} -D \${POSTGRESQL83DATA:=${dbdir}} restart
-w -s -m fast\
startupitem.pidfile clean ${dbpid}


Is it possible to use startupitem.execute for postgresql83?  The script
wrapper simply contains the pg_ctl commands listed above, maybe daemondo
could call pg_ctl directly?  Maybe daemondo could be configured to replace
pg_ctl and call the postmaster directly?


The pid file (/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb/postmaster.pid) is
only available to user postgres:

-rw---  1 500  postgres  67 Oct 13 20:12
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb/postmaster.pid

It contains (pid in bold):

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ]$ sudo cat
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb/postmaster.pid
88055
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb
  5432001131072

Can daemondo read AND parse this file to get the pid and use it to monitor
the server?  This is the relevant entries on the system from `ps aux | grep
post` (while running the server and pgAmin3 with one connection):

500  88060   0.3  0.084776400   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:15.39
postgres: stats collector process










500  86574   0.0  0.087992   4208   ??  Ss2:05PM   0:00.13
postgres: postgres postgres 127.0.0.1(52101) idle










500  88059   0.0  0.086920584   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:07.85
postgres: autovacuum launcher process










500  88058   0.0  0.086856436   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:13.90
postgres: wal writer process










500  88057   0.0  0.086856752   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:18.96
postgres: writer process











root 88044   0.0  0.075440772   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:00.01
/opt/local/bin/daemondo --label=postgresql83-server --start-cmd
/opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server/postgresql83-server.wrapper
start ; --stop-cmd
/opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server/postgresql83-server.wrapper
stop ; --restart-cmd
/opt/local/etc/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server/postgresql83-server.wrapper
restart ; --verbosity=1 --pid=fileauto --pidfile
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb/postmaster.pid

daemon 359   0.0  0.077476308   ??  SFri04PM   0:00.00
postgres: stats collector process

  daemon 357   0.0  0.078464228   ??  SFri04PM   0:00.00
postgres: stats buffer process

 daemon 356   0.0  0.078908960   ??  SFri04PM   0:00.99
/System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/rmdb.bundle/bin/postmaster -D
/var/db/RemoteManagement/RMDB/rmdb.data
500  86580   0.0  0.087480   3700   ??  Ss2:07PM   0:00.01
postgres: postgres test 127.0.0.1(52109) idle






Note the pid file contains a reference to this process:
500  88055   0.0  0.086856   2384 s000  SMon08PM   0:05.13
/opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin/postgres -D
/opt/local/var/db/postgresql83/defaultdb

Also note that this process seems to spawn several helpers, incl:
500  88060   0.3  0.084776400   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:15.39
postgres: stats collector process
500  88059   0.0  0.086920584   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:07.85
postgres: autovacuum launcher process
500  88058   0.0  0.086856436   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:13.90
postgres: wal writer process
500  88057   0.0  0.086856752   ??  Ss   Mon08PM   0:18.96
postgres: writer process

I could really appreciate some advice about how daemondo parses a pid file
and whether to modify this startupitem section of the port.  Also appreciate
updated clarification of daemondo vs. launchd (an old email thread on this
from late 2007 was helpful [daemondo defeats purpose of launchd?], maybe
more so than the guide pages that resulted from that thread).

Thanks, Darren
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Re: daemondo with postgresql83-server

2008-10-20 Thread Darren Weber
Thanks, Daniel.

I discovered that my startup problems were related to SSL options - I did
not create a server certificate.

I now have a custom Portfile that is working with SSL enabled (after I
created the server certificate).  It is using daemondo to control the
server.  I'm trying to stay within the parameters of macports to get this
running, and I can't see a way to create your .plist file directly.  Anyhow,
daemondo is monitoring the server by using a pid-file and it's working as
expected.

See my custom Portfile attached.  I'll submit this to track for
consideration.

Best, Darren



On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Daniel J. Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 17, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Darren Weber wrote:

 Is it possible to use startupitem.execute for postgresql83?


 Yes.

  The script wrapper simply contains the pg_ctl commands listed above, maybe
 daemondo could call pg_ctl directly?


 Yes, it could.

  Maybe daemondo could be configured to replace pg_ctl and call the
 postmaster directly?


 Probably, but the postgresql documentation recommends using pg_ctl
 (especially as you would have difficulty doing clean postgres shutdowns
 otherwise).

  Can daemondo read AND parse this file to get the pid and use it to monitor
 the server?


 Yes.

 I have a non-macports install of postgresql that uses daemondo and this
 works fine [1]. If you're curious, the code for daemondo isn't that large,
 and you can check it out yourself (
 http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/base/src/programs/daemondo/main.c)

  I could really appreciate some advice about how daemondo parses a pid file
 and whether to modify this startupitem section of the port.


 If things are working, why do you need to modify it?

  Also appreciate updated clarification of daemondo vs. launchd (an old
 email thread on this from late 2007 was helpful [daemondo defeats purpose of
 launchd?], maybe more so than the guide pages that resulted from that
 thread).



 Launchd is the application starter on Mac OS X. It has an API that allows
 for more flexibility than exists with older methods of launching things.
 Daemondo helps applications that don't know about launchd fit into the
 launchd environment better.

 Apple has documentation on launchd you can read if you're interested in
 more details.

 --
 Daniel J. Luke
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 |  reflect the opinions of my employer.  |
 ++


 1. Here's the text of my launchd plist:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
 http://www.apple.com/D
 TDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd
 plist version=1.0
 dict
keyDebug/key
false/
keyGroupName/key
stringpostgres/string
keyLabel/key
stringnet.geeklair.postgres/string
keyOnDemand/key
false/
keyProgramArguments/key
array
string/opt/local/bin/daemondo/string
string--label=postgres/string
string--start-cmd/string
string/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl/string
stringstart/string
string-o/string
string-i/string
string-D/string
string/usr/local/pgsql/data/string
string;/string
string--stop-cmd/string
string/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl/string
stringstop/string
string-m/string
stringfast/string
string;/string
string--restart-cmd/string
string/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl/string
stringrestart/string
string-m/string
stringfast/string
string-o/string
string-i/string
string-D/string
string/usr/local/pgsql/data/string
string;/string
string--pid=fileauto/string

  string--pidfile=/usr/local/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid/string
/array
keyRunAtLoad/key
false/
keyUserName/key
stringpostgres/string
 /dict
 /plist




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macports stages - how to stop server processes?

2008-10-20 Thread Darren Weber
RE: http://guide.macports.org/#reference.phases
Can we define phases for deactivate and uninstall?

For example, postgresql83-server is left running after doing uninstall.
 There should be an option to take down and remove any config data for a
server process during the deactivate and uninstall phases.  In the case of
postgresql83-server, it is monitored by daemondo (which is watched by
launchd), so we need to do a couple of things (not sure of the right order):

a) sudo launchctl unload -w
/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.postgresql83-server.plist
b) stop daemondo watching the server
c) stop the server
d) remove launch files
e) remove config files (or maybe this is part of 'clean --all').

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Darren

PS, Come to think of it, it might be useful to be able to do these things
when upgrading a server installation (ie: first stop and remove the current
server).
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What's up with trac?

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Weber
Just tried to access
http://trac.macports.org/newticket

It returns rubbish - what's up?
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libIce conflict between xorg-libice and ice-cpp

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Weber
Seems to be a conflict between xorg and ice-cpp over libice, eg:

[ dwe...@elegans ~ ]$ sudo port install ice-cpp
Password:
---  Fetching ice-cpp
Error: No defined site for tag: mcpp, using master_sites
---  Attempting to fetch protobuf-patch-0.1.0.gz from
http://distfiles.macports.org/ice-cpp
---  Attempting to fetch Ice-3.3.0.tar.gz from
http://distfiles.macports.org/ice-cpp
Error: No defined site for tag: mcpp, using master_sites
---  Attempting to fetch mcpp-2.7.tar.gz from
http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/mcpp
---  Verifying checksum(s) for ice-cpp
---  Extracting ice-cpp
---  Configuring ice-cpp
---  Building ice-cpp
---  Staging ice-cpp into destroot
---  Installing ice-cpp @3.3.0_3
---  Activating ice-cpp @3.3.0_3
Error: Target org.macports.activate returned: Image error:
/opt/local/lib/libIce.dylib is being used by the active xorg-libice
port.  Please deactivate this port first, or use the -f flag to force
the activation.
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


What's the solution for this one?

Darren
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port install efficiency issue

2009-03-21 Thread Darren Weber
What is up with port?  It just ran for about 15 mins to build a package that
is already installed.  If I were to work on the same damn thing, repeating
it all day, day after day, I would get the sack pretty quickly.  Just think
of the useless load on the network and the servers for all those futile
downloads, etc.  So tell me, why shouldn't I switch to fink?  At least
Debian has a decent package management system, geez!

$ sudo port install gettext
---  Fetching gettext
---  Verifying checksum(s) for gettext
---  Extracting gettext
---  Applying patches to gettext
---  Configuring gettext
---  Building gettext
---  Staging gettext into destroot
---  Installing gettext @0.17_4
Error: Target org.macports.install returned: Registry error: gettext @0.17_4
already registered as installed.  Please uninstall it first.
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.
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Re: port install efficiency issue

2009-03-22 Thread Darren Weber
2009/3/22 Frank J. R. Hanstick tro...@comcast.net

 Hello,
 Wouldn't it be better and faster to do the check at request time rather
 than wait until everything has been done and then request if an update is
 wanted rather than an install?
 Frank



Yes, sounds reasonable.

Also, my apologies!  Macports is great and so much so that I like to
contribute to it whenever I can!
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/dweber

Yes, fink has some issues too!  Nevertheless, I have used Debian (mostly
Ubuntu) for a few years and I've lived to appreciate that system (despite
some initial headaches with stable, unstable, ouch-bleeding on the testing
stuff).  For the most part, I think the dependency resolution and the
upgrade process is amazing.  I am very pleased to see this system available
for OSX and I do hope it lives on in all it's wonder.

I've made a move over to OSX for a new job and I guessed that macports would
be the right way to go, basically because I guessed it would be a BSD system
(or darwinports system) and I assumed that would be totally rock solid and
efficient because it's been around for decades (even in those days of
scheduled compilation).  I'm a novice when it comes to BSD and OSX, so this
is a great learning opportunity for me (even if I lose it sometimes).

On balance, I'm both impressed and disappointed with the complexity of the
macports system to date.  For example, dependency resolution needs a lot of
work during upgrades, binary distributions are a great idea in the making
(perhaps forever in the making), and the whole issue of dependency on
variants is a massive conference debate.  I've certainly come across these
issues and tried to submit reasonable trac suggestions for enhancements,
etc. on a couple of ports.  My main issue seems to be in getting a few ports
with a lot of dependencies to cooperate, esp. with regard to variants (eg,
Qt, Postgresql, MySQL, VTK, etc.).  I do think that package maintainers
should think very carefully about their default variants and try to provide
as many options as possible - that seems to be the way with Debian
packages.  It seems to me that Debian uses a different set of packages for
every major release, whereas macports tries to accommodate all the OSX
flavours into every Portfile.  Perhaps one way to reduce the confusion is to
create branches in the port tree for each major OSX release and platform
(PowerPC, intel, iphone; what's next?).  Perhaps some of these things are
rightly compiler variants or something, but how much easier it might be if
you just choose the right branch for your platform to work on?  I guess that
raises the problem of where to edit the Portfile and management of multiple
files in different branches - ouch.  I don't know how that's done in Debian.

Nevertheless, I will push on with macports and I'm trying to do my part to
both support and encourage open-source systems.  That's the bigger picture
here and I'm very sorry that my frustration on this thread raised a
relatively minor quibble about distribution systems.  Unfortnately, my
comments were emotional, but that's how it is sometimes and that's when you
really feel that there has to be a better way.  Patience is a virtue, I just
lose it sometimes.  Thankyou all for your understanding and, moreover, for
the many reasonable suggestions to make macports even better.

Take care, Darren
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compile farm?

2009-03-22 Thread Darren Weber
Is it possible to use the sourceforge compile farm to provide binary distros
for macports?

Perhaps cdash or something like it could be used?  FYI:
http://www.cdash.org/

Take care, Darren

PS, I assume GNU savanna is not available for anything that depends on OSX
(but does it also exclude BSD - darwin?).
http://savannah.gnu.org/
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Re: port install efficiency issue

2009-03-22 Thread Darren Weber
Is it possible to create a distributed build system that uses Xgrid, to
allow all macport users the option of adding their machine to a distributed
macports build system?  In effect, every time anybody on this grid has to
build a package from source, some kind of meta-package monitor can detect
whether the build and install was successful and then make an inquiry of a
central managment system as to whether or not this build should be added to
the mirrors for binary distributions.  If this inquiry was made before the
build and a binary is available somewhere, the system simply downloads the
binary (perhaps a torrent system).  If the binary is not available, the
build proceeds.  If it's successful, the outcome of the build is added to
the binary downloads available (ie, uploaded and distributed to mirrors to
become an effective part of a torrent download system).  Also, perhaps the
Xgrid system can be used to create a distributed build system, regardless of
what packages a user installs, but make sure that it uses idle systems (a
lot like the scheduled builds of older days).

For example:
http://cmgm.stanford.edu/~cparnot/xgrid-stanford/
http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/status/xgridstanford.html



On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 Scott Haneda wrote:
  Can we talk more about this?  I have the ability to host such a build
  farm.  Now, I could not host one machine, of every architecture, of
  every OS, I just do not have the room in colocation.
 
  I do have quite a bit of room if we go 1U though.  So 2 1U machines, a
  PPC and a Intel, and I would imagine, that PPC machine could go away a
  lot sooner than we all think.  Mac Mini's could take it further, since
  they are so small, 8 of them can fit on a shelf and occupy no more than
  a few U's of space.  The damn power bricks are more an issue than
  anything else.  There have to be PPC Mini's out there to be had.
 
  As long as the various OS versions could be virtualized, so we could
  have 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 and forward virtualized on each machine, it
  would not at all be hard to come up with a authentication routine to
  allow builds to happen on whatever virtual interface you want.
 
  I have the Ip space to spare, so each virtual machine could have it's
  own connection space, or we could do some simple dhcp pooling.  Static
  IP's are something I was alloted a /24 of, and do not see giving up 20
  or so of them being an issue.
 
  Am I looking at this wrong, or would this be helpful?  Is this too much
  reliance on an outside party for core ports features?  I have had access
  to this data center for 9+ years or so, I do not plan on giving up that
  access at any time soon.  The bandwidth requirements are minimal, it
  would go unnoticed.

 Thanks for the offer. I think it's safe to say, though, that finding the
 hardware for a build farm will be a relatively minor issue.

 The main thing that is needed is the software. Server-side, to build all
 the ports in some kind of intelligent order and copy the archives to
 somewhere from which they can be downloaded by the client, with error
 reporting; and to keep doing this as needed when new versions and new
 ports are added.

 Client-side, to check for the presence of an archive with the desired
 version/variants on the server, and to download and unarchive it instead
 of building from source when possible.

 - Josh
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Re: stable vs. unstable ports?

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Weber
I like the idea of an opt-in Xgrid system, whereby users could opt-in to
install an Xgrid client that provides a macports build system, binary
distributions, and meta-ports monitor.  Of course, some folks might
interpret it as too much big-brother, but really it's just so common now to
have integrated network clusters with two-way traffic.  The opt-in and
security settings on the facility may need integrity checking (code review -
so specific commit rights and few maintainers with security access) and
community monitoring to ensure security.  Just about every major desktop
system around has some kind of automated process monitoring and opt-in bug
reporting (windows, mac OSX, gnome, etc.).  I guess that Xgrid provides a
nice platform for a distributed build system.

I have no idea where to start with macports base.  If I had time to learn
it, I would try.  Even so, I would hate to screw around with it without
knowing what I'm doing.  Is there any documentation on how to get started
with hacking macports base - any kind of sandbox to play around with?

Anyone know how to work with Xgrid?  It's something on my todo list, but
I've not read anything about it yet.

Take care, Darren


On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:
 
  I've noticed problems during port upgrades.
 
  What is the general consensus on having a TAG for each port to indicate
  it's success status within the system?
 
  Is it possible to have a meta-port monitor that automatically tracks the
  status of each package install and reports that status back to a central
  repository to continuously flag the status of a port install.  A simple
  dichotomy of stable and unstable might suffice (Debian uses stable,
  unstable, and testing).  Perhaps the monitoring system could provide the
  data required to justify these port status levels.

 IIRC, last time something like this was proposed, the consensus was that
 phoning home is evil and MacPorts shouldn't do it. (The focus then was
 more on collecting stats on how often each port is used.) Personally I
 don't see what the problem is as long as it's opt-in.

 Of course, if we had a build farm producing binaries (see discussion
 currently ongoing), this information could also be produced by it
 incidentally to its main function.

 - Josh

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Re: compile farm?

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Weber
An Xgrid system?


On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:
 
  Is it possible to use the sourceforge compile farm to provide binary
  distros for macports?

 The sourceforge compile farm does not exist any more for at least two
 years now.

 Rainer

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Re: compile farm?

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Weber
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Mar 23, 2009, at 01:11, Darren Weber wrote:

  On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Rainer Müller wrote:

  Darren Weber wrote:

  Is it possible to use the sourceforge compile farm to provide binary
  distros for macports?

 The sourceforge compile farm does not exist any more for at least two
 years now.


 An Xgrid system?


 As stated in Re: port install efficiency issue, finding computers to
 serve as a build farm should not be a problem. I believe our Apple
 representatives have even offered such resources already. What we need to
 discuss is how the build farm would work. Someone (apologies; I forget who)
 already worked on a script to build a port in a clean environment. I think
 what still is needed is to then package that up and send it to a download
 server. Then we need code in the MacPorts base code to check for and if
 available download those binaries instead of building from source.


This suggestion may be too complicated, but it's a thought.  Suppose it is
possible to create a virtual machine or some kind of encapsulated clean
environment (perhaps like a java sdk or something), which can contain any
of the environments for OSX (10.x), or at least a standardized subset that
is required by default for macports builds.  Suppose such an environment
could be run from within any OSX system as a virtual machine. Suppose such a
virtual environment could be distributed on an Xgrid system, it could
provide a distributed build system for macports.

OK, back to reality...
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Re: compile farm?

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Weber
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Anders F Björklund a...@macports.orgwrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:

  This suggestion may be too complicated, but it's a thought.  Suppose it is
 possible to create a virtual machine or some kind of encapsulated clean
 environment (perhaps like a java sdk or something), which can contain any
 of the environments for OSX (10.x), or at least a standardized subset that
 is required by default for macports builds.  Suppose such an environment
 could be run from within any OSX system as a virtual machine. Suppose such a
 virtual environment could be distributed on an Xgrid system, it could
 provide a distributed build system for macports.


 This is called a chroot, and is what MPAB uses to build.

 See http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MPAB for all the details.

  OK, back to reality...


 Has been for a long time.

 --anders


Hey, of course it exists!  Why recreate the wheel?  Yes, we are Standing of
the shoulders of giants.

I have it running on my system now, to learn more about it.  I have an OSX
10.5.6 Server on a mac pro (2x quad core zeons, 24 Gb RAM).

First thing I note is that the ReadMe.txt contains instructions for an svn
export.  Two thoughts about that: (a) it can automated as part of the
script, (b) it uses trunk, but that could be any branch of the svn (eg,
stable, unstable, testing, etc. and I would equate trunk with testing).

I haven't looked into mpab itself, yet.  Can it detect the current platform
and make reasonable changes to the chroot for 10.x variants?  When I run it,
should I pipe the output to a log file?

Do you think it is possible to adapt this for Xgrid compilation?  Is it
possible to have (a) the chroot images distributed, and (b) to have each of
the port builds farmed out to different nodes on the grid.  I assume that
dependency issues prevent (b), so parallel builds of individual packages are
not possible - is that right?  Nevertheless, it should be possible to farm
out the entire autobuild to nodes on a grid for idle-time compilations.

Take care, Darren
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Re: port install efficiency issue

2009-03-23 Thread Darren Weber
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:
  when I look at a Portfile, I also take a little time to check out
  darwinports and Debian packages to learn something about how these
  software are built and distributed.

 I'm confused - is this a slip of the keyboard? DarwinPorts no longer
 exists, the name changed to MacPorts a few years ago.

 - Josh


Sorry I should be referring to:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/

For example,
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/boaconstructor/
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Re: stable vs. unstable ports?

2009-03-25 Thread Darren Weber
I've been working with macports under the mis-apprehension that it would
operate along the lines of freeBSD (and some frustration may arise mostly
from that lack of understanding).  I decided that it's time for me to do
some long-overdue homework.  I've been working mostly with linux (and
developed a preference for Debian-Ubuntu), so I need to get educated about
BSD, as macports seems to follow that model (to some extent).  In case it's
of interest to others, I found a few interesting links online (I apologize
if similar macports docs are available, I must check into that also):

http://www.freebsd.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/dev-model/book.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/index.html
Handbook downloads in multiple formats:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/

BSD jails (chroot)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/jails.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/virtualization.html

*NIX history
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree?rev=1.115.2.3;content-type=text%2Fplain

freebsd vs openbsd (vs netbsd)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/488714.html
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/bsd-17/important-read-this-before-posting-177142/
http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/10825_3393051_1

BSD vs Linux
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php

Bill Joy
I find it curious that Bill Joy created chroot to build BSD and then went on
to found Sun and probably contributed a lot to java design - perhaps the
whole idea of a chroot to build BSD might have been just the right
inspiration for the java vm and sdk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/09/11/bill_joys_greatest_gift/



On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Shreevatsa R
shreevatsa.pub...@gmail.comwrote:

 [Changing the topic from build systems and replying just to the
 original question]

 2009/3/22 Darren Weber dwe...@macports.org:
 
  I've noticed problems during port upgrades.
 
  What is the general consensus on having a TAG for each port to indicate
 it's
  success status within the system?

 There is already a low-tech way of doing this: see if any bugs have
 been reported against the given port. :)
 Chances are that if others have had problems with upgrades, they would
 have (hopefully) filed a ticket against the port.
 Checking this is very easy to do thanks to Rainer Müller's recently
 implemented Trac report, e.g. use
 http://trac.macports.org/report/16?PORT=python25
 to see if there are any recent bugs with the python25 port that you care
 about.

  Is it possible to have a meta-port monitor that automatically tracks the
  status of each package install and reports that status back to a central
  repository to continuously flag the status of a port install.  A simple
  dichotomy of stable and unstable might suffice (Debian uses stable,
  unstable, and testing).  Perhaps the monitoring system could provide the
  data required to justify these port status levels.

 Note that what Debian does is something quite a bit more: they have
 entirely different *sets* of ports marked stable, testing, unstable
 and users choose to install all their packages from the same set
 (tree). This is fine for Debian to do because they have enough
 people, but it would not be a good idea for MacPorts: having to
 maintain multiple sets of inter-compatible ports leads to too much
 fragmentation and the situation might end up similar to that with
 Fink: the stable ports work very well but are too outdated for most
 purposes, the unstable ports are really unstable and *still* quite a
 bit older than in MacPorts. Having only one current version of each
 port, which everyone gets and reports bugs against etc. is one of
 MacPorts's strengths.

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Re: stable vs. unstable ports?

2009-03-26 Thread Darren Weber
Recently, I was running something like update-all and there were some issues
with the netCDF library.  It was upgraded by the maintainer, who manually
updated a dependency on HDF5 within their dev environment, who then put out
a request to the HDF5 maintainer to update that package, but this could not
happen because of other dependencies on HDF5.  This situation persisted for
quite some time.  As a consequence, the netCDF package was broken during the
upgrade process.  (Please forgive me if any or all of these recollections
are just plain wrong, but something like this happened and it's just the
main idea that's important).

Despite all the reasons why this might or might not be a good process model,
I don't like it for daily work.  For the purpose of my daily work, I do want
a stable environment, I don't need to be on the cutting edge (or is that a
bleeding edge).  There are times when I want to get closer to the cutting
edge - that's when I grab and modify the Portfile in my local repository and
tinker with it (and any dependency issues, etc.).  I do like the way this is
possible in macports.  However, for the vast majority of packages, I just
want them to work, I want them to be stable and I want them to be nice to
each other, to work in harmony.

I would love an automated tagging system that can monitor the success or
failure of port builds and trace this status through the dependency tree to
automatically identify the conjunction of all stable ports.  It should
provide a report of that information to the maintainers of each package,
indicating the status of builds (broken down by variants and including a
relevant dependency list for each build-type that fails - not EVERY build,
just the category of build that fails).  All this currently happens in trac
and it requires a lot of effort to monitor and manage it.  Perhaps some of
that effort could be spent on programming a meta-port monitor and status
report system.

In effect, macports already has multiplicity of ports for each package,
mainly because there are separate ports for each major-minor release of a
package (like postgresql-83, etc.) and so do many other port or package
management systems.  It's not uncommon for a large package management system
to deal with the contingencies of multiple versions for a package, including
installation of multiple versions at the same time (due to user preferences
or due to package dependency).

At some point, in some way, it is inevitable that a package management
system must have some kind of stable - unstable tag on it's packages
(ports), whether it is automatic or manual (ie, developer decisions).  At
present, it appears this is all manual in macports and there is no way for a
user to use a simple category selector in the port program, but perhaps your
suggestion for python is a move toward some level of automation.

Thanks, Darren



On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Shreevatsa R
shreevatsa.pub...@gmail.comwrote:

 [Changing the topic from build systems and replying just to the
 original question]

 2009/3/22 Darren Weber dwe...@macports.org:
 
  I've noticed problems during port upgrades.
 
  What is the general consensus on having a TAG for each port to indicate
 it's
  success status within the system?

 There is already a low-tech way of doing this: see if any bugs have
 been reported against the given port. :)
 Chances are that if others have had problems with upgrades, they would
 have (hopefully) filed a ticket against the port.
 Checking this is very easy to do thanks to Rainer Müller's recently
 implemented Trac report, e.g. use
 http://trac.macports.org/report/16?PORT=python25
 to see if there are any recent bugs with the python25 port that you care
 about.

  Is it possible to have a meta-port monitor that automatically tracks the
  status of each package install and reports that status back to a central
  repository to continuously flag the status of a port install.  A simple
  dichotomy of stable and unstable might suffice (Debian uses stable,
  unstable, and testing).  Perhaps the monitoring system could provide the
  data required to justify these port status levels.

 Note that what Debian does is something quite a bit more: they have
 entirely different *sets* of ports marked stable, testing, unstable
 and users choose to install all their packages from the same set
 (tree). This is fine for Debian to do because they have enough
 people, but it would not be a good idea for MacPorts: having to
 maintain multiple sets of inter-compatible ports leads to too much
 fragmentation and the situation might end up similar to that with
 Fink: the stable ports work very well but are too outdated for most
 purposes, the unstable ports are really unstable and *still* quite a
 bit older than in MacPorts. Having only one current version of each
 port, which everyone gets and reports bugs against etc. is one of
 MacPorts's strengths.

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Re: stable vs. unstable ports?

2009-03-26 Thread Darren Weber
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Dave Howell
groups.20...@grandfenwick.netwrote:


 On Mar 23, 2009, at 0:38 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:


 Before we can allow arbitrary users to submit their builds to a central
 server, we would need to ensure that a build that occurs on one user's
 system is *identical* to the build on any other user's computer. This cannot
 currently be assured because MacPorts does not build in a chroot, and
 without this, it is possible for a port to link with libraries that happen
 to be on the user's system that it ought not link with -- be they libraries
 from other ports on which the port in question does not declare a
 dependency, or libraries in /usr/local, to which the compiler always looks.


 Would two identical builds be byte-identical? If so, then a binary
 doesn't become available until *two* (or three or whatever) identical
 binaries are uploaded.

 And/or, there's some command line library tool (I'm on vacation and my
 reference books are home) that I can run to get a listing of what libraries
 are called by a particular binary, isn't there? Wouldn't that help screen
 wacky-linked binaries?

 The deliberate uploading of contaminated binaries, however, is a whole
 different kettle of worms. :/



I've been running mpab for a few days now, ie:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MPAB

This is a chroot approach.  Obviously, as it is, anyone could tinker with it
to include a rootkit or whatever.  Nevertheless, I wonder if it's possible
to create a binary app of this, which is authenticated during installation
(at least), and we ensure that it must do some handshaking to get hold of
the official and secure port tree somehow (probably an encrypted
handshake, encrypted file archive for download, etc.) and then it goes about
it's business on a user machine and only does an upload (if any) when there
is some kind of further authentication that the port build is correct
(binary md5 etc. for at least 2-5 builds on the exact same configuration).
Even if it does no uploads, it could create useful information about the
stability or integrity (you name it) of the entire build process.  It would
be really neat to have an Xgrid controller (or many) be able to run a job
that can parse out port dependencies and have some kind of parallelism in
the build.

Best, Darren

PS, `man otool` can tell you just about anything you need to know about the
binary file, eg
otool -l /opt/local/bin/gls
otool -L /opt/local/bin/gls
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Re: Install from Binary Archives (was Re: port install efficiency issue)

2009-03-26 Thread Darren Weber
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:

 Dave Howell wrote:
  What about this: I do a ports install widget, ports looks for a
  binary, doesn't find one that matches (in this case, the default
  options and current version), so it goes about building it. When it's
  done, it says upload compiled binary to binary archives? I say Y,
  and up it goes. Now it's available for the next user who comes along.

 Sure, we would just distribute arbitrary binaries to end-users... NOT!
 Ever thought about security? What if I upload some rootkit instead of
 the real software and everyone installs it? No, this will not work.

 Rainer



I've been running mpab for a few days now, ie:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MPAB

This is a chroot approach.  Obviously, as it is, anyone could tinker with it
to include a rootkit or whatever.  Nevertheless, I wonder if it's possible
to create a binary app of this, which is authenticated during installation
(at least), and we ensure that it must do some handshaking to get hold of
the official and secure port tree somehow (probably an encrypted
handshake, encrypted file archive for download, etc.) and then it goes about
it's business on a user machine and only does an upload (if any) when there
is some kind of further authentication that the port build is correct
(binary md5 etc. for at least 2-5 builds on the exact same configuration).
Even if it does no uploads, it could create useful information about the
stability or integrity (you name it) of the entire build process.  It would
be really neat to have an Xgrid controller (or many) be able to run a job
that can parse out port dependencies and have some kind of parallelism in
the build.

Best, Darren

PS, `man otool` can tell you just about anything you need to know about the
binary file, eg
otool -l /opt/local/bin/gls
otool -L /opt/local/bin/gls
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Re: stable vs. unstable ports?

2009-03-27 Thread Darren Weber
FYI, running mpab (without any mods) on a mac Pro system:

  Model Name:Mac Pro
  Model Identifier:MacPro3,1
  Processor Name:Quad-Core Intel Xeon
  Processor Speed:2.8 GHz
  Number Of Processors:2
  Total Number Of Cores:8
  L2 Cache (per processor):12 MB
  Memory:24 GB
  Bus Speed:1.6 GHz

It's been running since 11 am, Monday 23rd March, 2009.  It's now:
Fri Mar 27 11:22:21 PDT 2009

The auto-build is currently at:
Building slib-guile (1645 of 5648)...

I don't know how to interrogate the success or failure rates.

Best, Darren


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Mar 26, 2009, at 17:51, Darren Weber wrote:


  On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Dave Howell wrote:

  On Mar 23, 2009, at 0:38 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:

  Before we can allow arbitrary users to submit their builds to a central
 server, we would need to ensure that a build that occurs on one user's
 system is *identical* to the build on any other user's computer. This 
 cannot
 currently be assured because MacPorts does not build in a chroot, and
 without this, it is possible for a port to link with libraries that happen
 to be on the user's system that it ought not link with -- be they libraries
 from other ports on which the port in question does not declare a
 dependency, or libraries in /usr/local, to which the compiler always looks.


 Would two identical builds be byte-identical? If so, then a binary
 doesn't become available until *two* (or three or whatever) identical
 binaries are uploaded.

 And/or, there's some command line library tool (I'm on vacation and my
 reference books are home) that I can run to get a listing of what libraries
 are called by a particular binary, isn't there? Wouldn't that help screen
 wacky-linked binaries?

 The deliberate uploading of contaminated binaries, however, is a whole
 different kettle of worms. :/


 I've been running mpab for a few days now, ie:
 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MPAB

 This is a chroot approach.  Obviously, as it is, anyone could tinker with
 it to include a rootkit or whatever.  Nevertheless, I wonder if it's
 possible to create a binary app of this, which is authenticated during
 installation (at least), and we ensure that it must do some handshaking to
 get hold of the official and secure port tree somehow (probably an
 encrypted handshake, encrypted file archive for download, etc.) and then it
 goes about it's business on a user machine and only does an upload (if any)
 when there is some kind of further authentication that the port build is
 correct (binary md5 etc. for at least 2-5 builds on the exact same
 configuration).  Even if it does no uploads, it could create useful
 information about the stability or integrity (you name it) of the entire
 build process.  It would be really neat to have an Xgrid controller (or
 many) be able to run a job that can parse out port dependencies and have
 some kind of parallelism in the build.



 Libraries and compressed files (which include manpages) tend to differ
 everytime they're built, even if they're functionally the same. So you can't
 just run an md5 checksum over everything and expect it to be the same after
 repeated builds.

 I hadn't thought of securing a distributed build system from malicious
 users until Joshua's message, but now I agree that from a security
 standpoint we cannot allow user-uploaded binaries at all. Dave's proposed
 safeguard of requiring n users to upload functionally identical files isn't
 going to help; if a malicious user can upload a bad binary from 1 computer,
 they can borrow n friends' computers and create n throwaway email addresses
 and upload the binary how ever many times we've specified. There are botnets
 out there with thousands of computers that can be commandeered by hackers to
 do whatever.

 So let's kill the idea of user-submitted binaries now. We want dedicated
 build servers under the control of the MacPorts project. So let's flesh out
 MPAB into something that can be run on such build servers. Then we can look
 at acquiring the servers.





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dbus and launchd spinning out of control

2009-03-28 Thread Darren Weber
I've only just noticed my Utilities - Console log and it contains streams
of the following messages:

3/28/09 3:11:03 PM org.macports.dbus[20573] Failed to start message bus: The
pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
running, remove this file
3/28/09 3:11:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:13 PM org.macports.dbus[20575] Failed to start message bus: The
pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
running, remove this file
3/28/09 3:11:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:23 PM org.macports.dbus[20579] Failed to start message bus: The
pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
running, remove this file
3/28/09 3:11:23 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:23 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
3/28/09 3:11:33 PM org.macports.dbus[20583] Failed to start message bus: The
pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
running, remove this file
3/28/09 3:11:33 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
respawn: Will start in 10 seconds


So every 10 sec, launchd is trying to get dbus up and running, but it fails
because an old pid file is hanging around.  Can this be resolved
automatically?  When I check the file, I get:

[ dwe...@ ~ ]$ ls -l /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root messagebus 4 2008-09-19 21:05 /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid


Given the date of this pid file (Sep 2008), I can only assume that this
entire process has been repeated every 10 seconds for months, whenever my
laptop system is running.  I've now removed the old pid file and the launchd
job has finally come to rest.

I'm not a frequent checker of system logs, I just use the system and I guess
most people are also unlikely to check the system logs (console).  I'm
curious about why this situation arose and, moreover, why it was not
automatically resolved (it clearly required my intervention to remove the
old pid file).

Take care, Darren
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Re: dbus and launchd spinning out of control

2009-03-28 Thread Darren Weber
I'm not sure if there is a specific ticket on this already, but maybe this
one comes close:
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/18462

On my system, I have the following LaunchDeamon and LaunchAgent:

[ dwe...@xxx ~ ]$ cat /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.dbus.plist
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;
plist version=1.0
dict
keyDebug/key
false/
keyLabel/key
stringorg.macports.dbus/string
keyOnDemand/key
false/
keyProgramArguments/key
array
string/opt/local/bin/daemondo/string
string--label=dbus/string
string--start-cmd/string
string/opt/local/bin/dbus-daemon/string
string--system/string
string--nofork/string
string;/string
string--pid=exec/string
/array
keyRunAtLoad/key
false/
/dict
/plist


[ dwe...@xxx ~ ]$ cat
/Library/LaunchAgents/org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN 
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd;
plist version=1.0
dict
keyLabel/key
stringorg.freedesktop.dbus-session/string
keyServiceIPC/key
true/
!-- bug in 10.4's launchd - on-demand loading does not work --
keyOnDemand/key
false /
keyProgramArguments/key
array
string/opt/local/bin/dbus-daemon/string
string--nofork/string
string--session/string
/array
keySockets/key
dict
keyunix_domain_listener/key
dict
keySecureSocketWithKey/key
stringDBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET/string
/dict
/dict
/dict
/plist






On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Darren Weber dwe...@macports.org wrote:


 I've only just noticed my Utilities - Console log and it contains streams
 of the following messages:

 3/28/09 3:11:03 PM org.macports.dbus[20573] Failed to start message bus:
 The pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
 running, remove this file
 3/28/09 3:11:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:13 PM org.macports.dbus[20575] Failed to start message bus:
 The pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
 running, remove this file
 3/28/09 3:11:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:23 PM org.macports.dbus[20579] Failed to start message bus:
 The pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
 running, remove this file
 3/28/09 3:11:23 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:23 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
 3/28/09 3:11:33 PM org.macports.dbus[20583] Failed to start message bus:
 The pid file /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid exists, if the message bus is not
 running, remove this file
 3/28/09 3:11:33 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (org.macports.dbus) Throttling
 respawn: Will start in 10 seconds


 So every 10 sec, launchd is trying to get dbus up and running, but it fails
 because an old pid file is hanging around.  Can this be resolved
 automatically?  When I check the file, I get:

 [ dwe...@ ~ ]$ ls -l /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root messagebus 4 2008-09-19 21:05 /opt/local/var/run/dbus/pid


 Given the date of this pid file (Sep 2008), I can only assume that this
 entire process has been repeated every 10 seconds for months, whenever my
 laptop system is running.  I've now removed the old pid file and the launchd
 job has finally come to rest.

 I'm not a frequent checker of system logs, I just use the system and I
 guess most people are also unlikely to check the system logs (console).  I'm
 curious about why this situation arose and, moreover, why it was not
 automatically resolved (it clearly required my intervention to remove the
 old pid file).

 Take care, Darren


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new milestone: Port Binaries

2009-03-30 Thread Darren Weber
How about a new milestone for trac: binary distributions?  I guess most of
this would focus on mpab and adaptations to port to enable binary
installations.

Take care, Darren
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sysadmin: is there a manifesto on environment settings for macports?

2009-04-09 Thread Darren Weber
Is there a general manifesto on how to configure OSX for macports?

I see the following documents online, but they don't answer all my questions
for macports:
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ
http://trac.macports.org/wiki/InstallingMacPorts

The installation of macports proposes a user-specific environment (using
~/.profile or similar, but I wonder if that resolves path issues when using
sudo or for system deamons, etc.).

An issue that I have is with the dynamic linker unable to resolve some
library paths at run-time.  I would like to see a document on macport wisdom
for dyld.

In my explorations today, to resolve some environment settings, I found a
few places where the environment is configured (I'm using bash).

I see the following system path settings available:

/etc/paths
/etc/paths.d/*  (used by /usr/libexec/path_helper, called from /etc/profile
[and elsewhere?])
/etc/manpaths
/etc/manpaths.d
/etc/man.conf

For bash, there are a few /etc files around:
/etc/bashrc
/etc/profile (which calls path_helper and it handles at /etc/paths.d/*)

For csh, there are /etc/csh.* files.

In the user domain, there are the usual suspects (~/.bashrc, ~/.profile,
~/.cshrc, ~/.login, etc.).  Then there is a sneeky OSX specific environment
file in ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist.  The macports installation recommends
using the *nix convention of setting up the environment in the shell login
profiles (.profile, .bashrc, etc.).

What about dynamic library path configuration (for dyld)?  What is the best
way to configure this for macports?  Should settings apply at the system
level (I would assume so) or at the user level (probably not).  I currently
have one env setting for postgresql83 (and I think this one is user
specfic):
DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=:/opt/local/lib/postgresql83

When building libraries, is there a general philosophy on using rpath?  I'm
confused about this, eg consider:
http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue
http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-libt...@gnu.org/msg00700.html
http://lists.apple.com/archives/unix-porting/2008/Mar/msg8.html
http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/RN-dyld/index.html

I've found that rpath can be a problem because macports builds into a
destroot.  When I use rpath outside of a destroot, it works fine, but I
don't understand how to use it with a destroot, as in macports.  If a port
should use rpath, how should a port set RPATH correctly (maybe a relative
path to ${prefix})?  Or, should a port update a DYLD path setting so that
run-time dependencies get resolved (see options for path settings in `man
dyld` and maybe ports should set a system or user equivalent to
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist)?

See also:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/DynamicLibraries/index.html
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/BPSystemStartup.html
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/BPRuntimeConfig.html
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/EnvironmentVars.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20002093

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Porting/Conceptual/PortingUnix/intro/intro.html

Take care, Darren
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Re: sysadmin: is there a manifesto on environment settings for macports?

2009-04-10 Thread Darren Weber
Hi Rainer,

I've had some difficulty with the VTK library when I try to get dynamic
libraries working under macports.  See
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/19000

I could use some help with understanding how to get rpath working under
macports (if that is THE way to go), given that VTK uses CMAKE settings to
configure the RPATH or the INSTALL_RPATH and the settings that I've tried so
far get corrupted during the macports build process because it uses a
destroot setting.  I've thought about a postdestroot hack using
'install_name_tool' but there may be a better way to get it right.

For me, the bigger picture is creating an open-source scientific application
that will depend on VTK, among other libraries, and macports may provide the
foundation for the distribution process on OSX.

Best, Darren


On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:
  What about dynamic library path configuration (for dyld)?  What is the
  best way to configure this for macports?  Should settings apply at the
  system level (I would assume so) or at the user level (probably not).  I
  currently have one env setting for postgresql83 (and I think this one is
  user specfic):
  DYLD_FALLBACK_LIBRARY_PATH=:/opt/local/lib/postgresql83

 ports should not require any DYLD_* settings as they are expected to
 link against absolute paths in the ${prefix}. If this is really required
 for postgresql83 to work, it is a bug in that port.

  When building libraries, is there a general philosophy on using rpath?
  I'm confused about this, eg consider:
  http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue
  http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-libt...@gnu.org/msg00700.html
  http://lists.apple.com/archives/unix-porting/2008/Mar/msg8.html
 
 http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/RN-dyld/index.html
 
  I've found that rpath can be a problem because macports builds into a
  destroot.  When I use rpath outside of a destroot, it works fine, but I
  don't understand how to use it with a destroot, as in macports.  If a
  port should use rpath, how should a port set RPATH correctly (maybe a
  relative path to ${prefix})?  Or, should a port update a DYLD path
  setting so that run-time dependencies get resolved (see options for path
  settings in `man dyld` and maybe ports should set a system or user
  equivalent to ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist)?

 First, what particular problem are you trying to solve with this? Is
 there any port which relies on RPATH? If so, why would it need this?

 Rainer

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VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-13 Thread Darren Weber
This is a thread to discuss naming conventions for VTK in macports.

Macports has the following VTK ports (as of 04/13/2009):

VTK @4.4.2 (graphics)
3D visualization toolkit

vtk5 @5.2.1 (graphics, devel)
3D visualization toolkit


In the Debian distribution, there are quite a few packages, eg:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=vtksearchon=namessuite=stablesection=all

A similar story with FreeBSD, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=vtkstype=all

Note that both Debian and FreeBSD list VTK in several categories, including
'libs', 'libdevel', 'graphics', and 'math'.

Many of these separate packages in Debian and FreeBSD probably equate to
'variants' in a macport.

Take care, Darren
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Re: VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-14 Thread Darren Weber
I agree with Ryan, that separate ports provide more clarity for dependency
specifications, but I do not understand macports variants very well.  For
instance, there is a track ticket on VTK with some discussion about this
issue, see:
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/19000

In that ticket, tgamblin raises the possibility of using the @X.Y.Z syntax
to get version specific installs, eg:

port install v...@5.2.1
port install v...@5.4.0

Furthermore, it should be possible to do this:

port install v...@5.2.1
port build v...@5.4.0
port deactivate v...@5.2.1
port activate v...@5.4.0
... etc

If so, does this automatically resolve @X.Y into the latest Z version
available?  Also, similarly, does it automatically resolve @X into the
latest Y.Z version?  In my experience with macports to date, the @ syntax
must be very specific to be effective, it doesn't have automatic resolution
to the latest version.  I know that Debian has some symbolic package names
that are resolved to the latest version of a package (an auto-update package
name).

In any case, there are some issues with simultaneous version installations
(please see the trac ticket comments for some details).  Given some
differences of opinion, it would be great to work out a consensus on how
best to move forward.  This requires broader discussion that a track ticket,
as the resolution is not necessarily specific to any particular port,
although this discussion has a focus on VTK for example.

Any ports that depend on a specific version of vtk should be able to:
(a) specify a dependency on a vtkXY port name that includes at least an XY
version (or use the @X.Y.Z syntax?),
and
(b) restrict the build and link search paths to the version required.

To my knowlege, vtk doesn't provide a utility like
/opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin/pg_config, but cmake does have some macros
for searching out include and library paths (this may also apply to ports in
the K-desktop, as they have adopted cmake as their build tool).  In the
cmake search paths, there are several variables that control the search,
including:

CMAKE_FIND_FRAMEWORK
CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH
ONLY_CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH
NO_CMAKE_SYSTEM_PATH
NO_CMAKE_ENVIRONMENT_PATH
NO_SYSTEM_ENVIRONMENT_PATH
CMAKE_FRAMEWORK_PATH
CMAKE_APPBUNDLE_PATH
CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH
CMAKE_INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES_BEFORE

Given there are relatively few ports that depend on VTK, I've been looking
for inspiration from more significant libraries, like postgresql and python.

A possible solution is to adopt a model something like postgresql8x, where
the installation goes almost entirely into /opt/local/lib/postgresql8x,
including /opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin, for instance.  Translating that
model to vtk might result in something like:
/opt/local/include/vtk-X.Y
/opt/local/lib/vtkX.Y
These paths are already the defaults, given $prefix = /opt/local, but notice
how posgresql83 has something like a bin path within the lib path, eg:
/opt/local/lib/vtk-X.Y/bin
This would separate any vtk binaries that are version specific, rather than
have them clash under /opt/local/bin/.

Another possible solution is to adopt a pythonX.Y model, where the version
specific installs include a version suffix.  In addition, there is the
utility python_select to define the 'current' version.  In this model, a
build that depends on a specific version of VTK might temporarily use
something like python_select to define the current version for the build.

Take care, Darren



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Apr 13, 2009, at 16:52, css...@mac.com wrote:

   On Monday, April 13, 2009, at 04:49PM, Darren Weber wrote:

  This is a thread to discuss naming conventions for VTK in macports.

 Macports has the following VTK ports (as of 04/13/2009):

 VTK @4.4.2 (graphics)
   3D visualization toolkit

 vtk5 @5.2.1 (graphics, devel)
   3D visualization toolkit


 It might be more clear to rename along the lines of:

 vtk @5.2.1
 vtk-devel @5.4
 vtk4 @4.4.2

 I'm not sure how best we might handle renaming the existing ports to match
 this scheme, but it would follow the scheme of keeping the port named
 without a version as the latest, stable release. I also need to fix the
 case-sensitive handling of the directory versus the port name. Any thoughts?


 This is difficult since MacPorts does not have a mechanism for renaming
 ports. It would be great if we had such a mechanism.


  Many of these separate packages in Debian and FreeBSD probably equate to
 'variants' in a macport.


 That's true. MacPorts provides the extra language bindings in variants
 rather than separate ports, unless the demand hasn't been made to enable a
 particular binding either by default or as a variant.


 IMHO separate ports are better than variants, since they can be installed
 and uninstalled separately, and depended on (in a dependency statement). The
 Subversion language bindings are in separate ports, for example

Re: VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-14 Thread Darren Weber
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM, css...@mac.com wrote:

  On Monday, April 13, 2009, at 04:49PM, Darren Weber 
 dwe...@macports.org wrote:
 This is a thread to discuss naming conventions for VTK in macports.
 
 Macports has the following VTK ports (as of 04/13/2009):
 
 VTK @4.4.2 (graphics)
 3D visualization toolkit
 
 vtk5 @5.2.1 (graphics, devel)
 3D visualization toolkit

 It might be more clear to rename along the lines of:

 vtk @5.2.1
 vtk-devel @5.4
 vtk4 @4.4.2


The -devel suffix (or just -dev) is often used with a debug release, and
(or) it specifies that all the include headers are installed, not just the
binaries.  As VTK is a library (not an application, per se), the -dev suffix
is sort-of implied (virtually mandatory).  Note that Debian use the names
libvtk-* to be explicit that VTK is a library, but this is not the case in
FreeBSD.

Perhaps there could be a dev or testing variant of vtk for the current
CVS checkout?  Given that 5.4.0 is the latest stable release, it should
not get a -dev suffix.

I'm clueless about the @ syntax for version specificity; maybe that will
work.

Take care, Darren
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Re: VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-14 Thread Darren Weber
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 This is really more of a development question and not a usage question so
 macports-dev may be a better place to continue this.


 On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:55, Darren Weber wrote:

  I agree with Ryan, that separate ports provide more clarity for dependency
 specifications, but I do not understand macports variants very well.  For
 instance, there is a track ticket on VTK with some discussion about this
 issue, see:
 http://trac.macports.org/ticket/19000

 In that ticket, tgamblin raises the possibility of using the @X.Y.Z syntax
 to get version specific installs, eg:
 port install v...@5.2.1
 port install v...@5.4.0
 Furthermore, it should be possible to do this:
 port install v...@5.2.1
 port build v...@5.4.0
 port deactivate v...@5.2.1
 port activate v...@5.4.0
 ... etc
 If so, does this automatically resolve @X.Y into the latest Z version
 available?  Also, similarly, does it automatically resolve @X into the
 latest Y.Z version?  In my experience with macports to date, the @ syntax
 must be very specific to be effective, it doesn't have automatic resolution
 to the latest version.  I know that Debian has some symbolic package names
 that are resolved to the latest version of a package (an auto-update package
 name).


 MacPorts does not offer the facility to install a specific version of a
 port. It only lets you install the current version of the port.

 port install v...@5.2.1 will not install version 5.2.1; it will install
 whatever version is currently offered by the port. Once a port has been
 updated to a new version, MacPorts no longer has any information about the
 older version of the port.

 You can *uninstall*, *deactivate* and *activate* specific versions which
 have already been installed. For example, if you install zlib, and that
 gives you version 1.2.1, and later version 1.2.3 becomes available and you
 port upgrade zlib to get it, you now have two versions of zlib installed:
 zlib @1.2.1_0 and zlib @1.2.3_0, with the latter being active. If you wish
 to go back to 1.2.1_0, you can port deactivate zlib (which will deactivate
 zlib @1.2.3_0; specifying the version is not necessary here because there is
 only one zlib active) and then port activate zlib @1.2.1_0. Note this is
 only possible because the old version had already previously been installed.

 Instructions for installing an older version of a port directly are in the
 wiki:

 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/InstallingOlderPort



The conclusion to be drawn from this part of our discussion is that any
ports that depend on a specific version of VTK can specify that version
dependency only if there is a version specific port available (ie, vtkXY).
It is not possible for a port to specify a dependency using the @X.Y.Z
syntax.

The next question is, why would any port require a dependency on a specific
version of VTK?  Furthermore, if it does, to what extent is that port
compatible with future releases of VTK?  So, moving on to the next question
below.






  In any case, there are some issues with simultaneous version installations
 (please see the trac ticket comments for some details).  Given some
 differences of opinion, it would be great to work out a consensus on how
 best to move forward.  This requires broader discussion that a track ticket,
 as the resolution is not necessarily specific to any particular port,
 although this discussion has a focus on VTK for example.

 Any ports that depend on a specific version of vtk should be able to:
 (a) specify a dependency on a vtkXY port name that includes at least an
 XY version (or use the @X.Y.Z syntax?),
 and
 (b) restrict the build and link search paths to the version required.

 To my knowlege, vtk doesn't provide a utility like
 /opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin/pg_config, but cmake does have some macros
 for searching out include and library paths (this may also apply to ports in
 the K-desktop, as they have adopted cmake as their build tool).  In the
 cmake search paths, there are several variables that control the search,
 including:

 CMAKE_FIND_FRAMEWORK
 CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH
 ONLY_CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH
 NO_CMAKE_SYSTEM_PATH
 NO_CMAKE_ENVIRONMENT_PATH
 NO_SYSTEM_ENVIRONMENT_PATH
 CMAKE_FRAMEWORK_PATH
 CMAKE_APPBUNDLE_PATH
 CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH
 CMAKE_INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES_BEFORE

 Given there are relatively few ports that depend on VTK, I've been looking
 for inspiration from more significant libraries, like postgresql and python.

 A possible solution is to adopt a model something like postgresql8x, where
 the installation goes almost entirely into /opt/local/lib/postgresql8x,
 including /opt/local/lib/postgresql83/bin, for instance.  Translating that
 model to vtk might result in something like:
 /opt/local/include/vtk-X.Y
 /opt/local/lib/vtkX.Y
 These paths are already the defaults, given $prefix = /opt/local, but
 notice how posgresql83 has something like a bin path within the lib path,
 eg

Re: VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-15 Thread Darren Weber
Proposed summary:

Where possible, do not use portmajorminor (eg: vtk54), rather port
should be the latest STABLE version (eg: the port named 'vtk' should contain
5.2.x at the time of this writing).  Any version of a port that is near the
cutting edge must have the -devel suffix on the port name (eg, vtk-devel
should contain 5.4.0 at the time of this writing).   An exception to this
rule is where multiple versions of a port (VERSIONS - not variants) must be
installed due to down-stream dependencies on incompatible versions.  This
usually occurs for older versions than the current stable version.  In this
case, the older versions should adopt the name portmajorminor (or at
least portmajor, depending on the port compatibility policies) and, if
possible, the down-stream ports that depend on it should have revised
dependency specifications (eg, change the dependency from 'vtk' to 'vtkXY')
- unless or until the downstream ports can be updated to be compatible with
the latest releases in their dependency tree.  At the point where a library
like vtk is updated to a new incompatible release (eg, a major version
change, such as 4.x to 5.x), the vtk port becomes the latest stable version
and the prior port becomes at least vtkmajor, if not vtkmajorminor.
In the event that older stable releases are updated with bug fixes, the
live-check mechanism might be used to detect and upgrade the port (assuming
the bug fixes don't change compatibility).

[Note.  Avoid '.' in the port name, so don't do portmajor.minor in the
port name.]

Conclusion:
vtk becomes vtk4 or vtk44 @4.4.2
vtk5 becomes vtk @5.2.1
vtk54 becomes vtk-devel @5.4.0

[Note.  When vtk-5.4.x becomes at least 5.4.1, it will become 'vtk' and then
vtk-devel will disappear - at least until the next time a -devel is
required, when we get say vtk-5.5.0 or some other change that might be
incompatible with vtk-5.4.x.]

The result of these changes should provide something like (at the time of
writing):

[ m...@xxx ~ ]$ port search vtk
vtk44 @4.4.2 (graphics)
3D visualization toolkit (www.vtk.org)

vtk @5.2.1 (graphics)
3D visualization toolkit (www.vtk.org)

vtk-devel @5.4.0 (graphics, devel)
3D visualization toolkit (www.vtk.org)


Note that there has to be some changes in the Portfile to the way the
${name}, etc. variables are handled when there is a change in the version
release.  For example,

name  vtk44
version   4.4.2
revision  0
set branch[join [lrange [split ${version} .] 0 1] .]
homepage  http://www.vtk.org/
master_sites  http://www.vtk.org/files/release/${branch}
distname  vtk-${branch}
distfiles vtk-${version}.tar.gz \
  vtkdata-${version}.tar.gz
post-extract {
system cd ${workpath}; mv VTK ${distname}; mv VTKData ${distname}-data
}


In any case, all the vtk ports should assume that more than one version of
the library can be installed and those installations should be separated
into independent locations (hopefully this can be handled with the right
CMAKE variable settings).  For the most part, this already happens in vtk,
although there are some binaries that are not version specific that get
installed into ${prefix}/bin/.

If we have a consensus on this, we might conclude this discussion of the VTK
naming convention.

Take care, Darren


PS, Additional summary notes or issues to be resolved elsewhere:

a) vtk takes a long time to build, so the default variant should provide a
complete installation (wrapping for tcl, python, and java, plus docs,
examples, data, tests, or whatever).  The wrappers for tcl, python, java
should be variants, so too with docs, examples, data, etc., which are
included by default, but thereby making it possible to exclude them with
-variant syntax.  There should be some documentation in the
long_description about the variants, to explain the variant compatibility
and the defaults.

b) Additional variants, or separate ports, for substantial combination of
vtk with other ports, like Qt, mysql, postgresql, etc.  During the build for
vtk, there are distinct options to include classes and links to additional
functionality for GUI and database programming (among others).
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uninstall works, but receipts are not updated?

2009-04-16 Thread Darren Weber
What is happening here (there is a local repository in ~/ports, but it's
probably not important for this issue):

[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ port installed | grep vtk
  vtk @5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+shared+tclSys+testing
  vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk52 @5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk54 @5.4.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall vtk
@5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
Password:
---  Uninstalling vtk @5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall vtk5
@5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+shared+tclSys+testing
---  Uninstalling vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+shared+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall vtk5
@5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
---  Uninstalling vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall vtk52
@5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
---  Uninstalling vtk52 @5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ sudo port uninstall vtk54
@5.4.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
---  Uninstalling vtk54 @5.4.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ port installed | grep vtk  vtk
@5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+shared+tclSys+testing
  vtk5 @5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk52 @5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
  vtk54 @5.4.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ ls /opt/local/var/macports/software/vtk*
/opt/local/bin/gls: cannot access /opt/local/var/macports/software/vtk*: No
such file or directory
[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ ls /opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk*/*
/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk/5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing:
receipt.bz2  receipt.bz2.mpsaved

/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk5/5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+shared+tclSys+testing:
receipt.bz2  receipt.bz2.mpsaved

/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk5/5.2.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing:
receipt.bz2  receipt.bz2.mpsaved

/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk52/5.2.1_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing:
receipt.bz2  receipt.bz2.mpsaved

/opt/local/var/macports/receipts/vtk54/5.4.0_0+darwin_9+examples+tclSys+testing:
receipt.bz2  receipt.bz2.mpsaved


Best, Darren
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how-to delete a registry entry?

2009-04-16 Thread Darren Weber
There is some documentation here on the macports API, including some
registry functions:
http://guide.macports.org/#internals.apis

How is the API called?  It is a tcl API, so is it loaded into tclsh?

Thanks, Darren
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Re: how-to delete a registry entry?

2009-04-17 Thread Darren Weber
I made the stupid mistake of removing some registry (ie, receipt) files, so
now I get

[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ port installed
Error: port installed failed: list must have an even number of elements
No ports are installed.

I ran a few port uninstall commands and then checked that the ports were not
installed, but

port installed | grep portname

continued to indicate that the ports were installed (see my other list post
on that topic).  I should like 'port installed' to indicate that a port is
no longer installed after running 'port uninstall port'.  So I started to
read up on how to remove the receipts using the API somehow, but I couldn't
do that and I did just removed the files.  Lesson learned, but now it needs
to be fixed - how can I regenerate the registry?

FYI:

[ m...@xxx ~/ports ]$ port -d installed
DEBUG: list must have an even number of elements
while executing
array set receipt_$ref $receipt_contents
(procedure receipt_flat::open_entry line 84)
invoked from within
${macports::registry.format}::open_entry $name $version $revision
$variants
(procedure open_entry line 4)
invoked from within
open_entry $iname $iversion $irevision $ivariants
(procedure registry::installed line 13)
invoked from within
registry::installed
Error: port installed failed: list must have an even number of elements
No ports are installed.






On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:

 Darren Weber wrote:
 
  There is some documentation here on the macports API, including some
  registry functions:
  http://guide.macports.org/#internals.apis
 
  How is the API called?  It is a tcl API, so is it loaded into tclsh?

 This is only meant for internal use inside of MacPorts. What are you
 trying to do with the registry?

 Rainer

 PS: This topic may have been better suited for macports-dev.

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reinstalling macports

2009-04-22 Thread Darren Weber
I've got a corrupted registry (receipts).

Will reinstalling macports correct a corrupted registry?

Is it possible to re-install macports from the .dmg while keeping all the
ports that are installed (and registered)?

How can I correct a corrupted registry, without re-installation?

Thanks in advance,
Darren
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Re: reinstalling macports

2009-04-22 Thread Darren Weber
Nice command line, Jeremy!

I did find my own custom port had some \n chars in long_description that
screwed up the registry.  It's all working correctly now.

Phew!

Thanks!



On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jeremy Huddleston jerem...@macports.orgwrote:

 This should tell you which one is problematic:

 for f in /opt/local/var/macports/receipts/*/*/receipt.bz2; do echo -n $f 
 bzcat $f | wc -l; done | grep -v ' 2$'



 On Apr 22, 2009, at 14:09, Rainer Müller wrote:

  Darren Weber wrote:

 I've got a corrupted registry (receipts).


 Do you know which receipt it is?

 I assume this the issue with using \n in the
 description/long_description as you did in your gdb port. In this case,
 you could fix it by editing the receipt by hand. A valid receipt should
 have only two lines. The first is the version number, the second one
 contains all the information about the port.

 If there was some \n in the description/long_description, these new
 lines are written into this receipt file as actual new lines. So, to get
 a working receipt again, remove the new lines by joining these lines to
 a single one.

 You will find the receipt at
 /opt/local/var/macports/receipts/name/composite_version/receipt.bz2

 These are compressed, but plain text. Uncompress, edit and compress
 again (or if you know vim, it will do it automatically for you).

 If my guess above was wrong, please show the receipt file in question
 and describe what you did.

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Re: VTK port naming conventions

2009-04-27 Thread Darren Weber

  I have not had enough experience with VTK to know how compatible it is
 across minor version releases.  To provide flexibility, I've assumed that
 vtkXY should be sufficient to provide the major.minor (X.Y) version
 specificity for any port that depends on VTK (ie, I've not considered vtkXYZ
 to be necessary).  Certainly vtkX at a minimum to provide the major release
 compatibility.

 At this point, do we have a consensus that port names should have a
 version string in the name?  (We may not agree on the specificity of that
 version string - vtkX, vtkXY, vtkXYZ - but it appears the @ syntax is not an
 option.)


 A number should only be used in the port name if you need to have multiple
 ports that install multiple different versions of the software. For most
 ports, this should not be necessary; just provide a single port with the
 latest version of the software.

 To know how this should be handled for vtk, you need to answer the
 question: why would a user install the old version if a new version is
 available? Why would a user install vtk 4.4.2 if 5.2.1 is available? Why
 would a user install vtk 5.2.1 if 5.4 is available? If there is no reason
 why a user would do this, then multiple ports are not needed.


Quick update on this section of our discussion, see
http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK_FAQ#Changes_to_the_VTK_API

It provides some indication that the API for VTK can change with a lot of
flexibility, so we might expect the minor release versions of VTK to break
some parts of the API sometimes.  In this case, any software that depends on
VTK might need either (a) a dependency on an old minor release version (eg,
vtkXY) or (b) an update to the source to adjust for API changes.

Regards, Darren
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What is the preferred or recommended gcc version?

2009-05-14 Thread Darren Weber
This one is not in the FAQ, yet, so here we go.

Is there a general consensus, for the majority of ports without any specific
build dependency, on which version of gcc is preferred or recommended for
MacPorts?

The following gcc variants are available:

[ dwe...@x ~ ]$ gcc_select -l
Available versions:
gcc40 mp-gcc42 mp-gcc43 mp-gcc44

[ dwe...@x ~ ]$ ls -l /opt/local/bin/gcc* | sed -e 's/.*[0-9] \/opt/\/opt/'
/opt/local/bin/gcc - /usr/bin/gcc-4.0*
/opt/local/bin/gcc-apple-4.2 -
/opt/local/lib/apple-gcc42/bin/gcc-apple-4.2*
/opt/local/bin/gcc-mp-4.2*
/opt/local/bin/gcc-mp-4.3*
/opt/local/bin/gcc-mp-4.4*
/opt/local/bin/gcc_select*
/opt/local/bin/gccbug-mp-4.2*
/opt/local/bin/gccbug-mp-4.3*
/opt/local/bin/gccbug-mp-4.4*
/opt/local/bin/gccxml*
/opt/local/bin/gccxml_cc1plus*

[ dwe...@x ~ ]$ ls -l /opt/local/bin/g++* | sed -e 's/.*[0-9] \/opt/\/opt/'
/opt/local/bin/g++ - /usr/bin/bin/g++-4.0
/opt/local/bin/g++-mp-4.2*
/opt/local/bin/g++-mp-4.3*
/opt/local/bin/g++-mp-4.4*


Take care,
Darren
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Re: GDB 6.8 via Mac Ports?

2009-06-05 Thread Darren Weber
Hi Kendall,

I put this Portfile together in the hope that the build and install would be
smooth.  It's not.  I'm a novice at building gdb, so I have a lot to learn
about why this is failing.  It may be that the automatic detection of the
target architecture is wrong, it currently detects

checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0

The main concern is this:

checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
checking target system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether ln works... yes
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 accepts -g... yes
checking for /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether /usr/bin/g++-4.0 accepts -g... yes
checking for gnatbind... no
checking for gnatmake... no
checking whether compiler driver understands Ada... no
checking how to compare bootstrapped objects... cmp --ignore-initial=16 $$f1
$$f2
*** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
 bfd opcodes gdb sim
(Any other directories should still work fine.)


So what is happening is the build and install is working, but only
partially.  It would be preferable that the build fails at this point, but
it does not!

I'm very sorry to waste your time, I wish this was working!  I think the
main thing to get right is the target platform identifier.  I looked into it
briefly, but it's not resolved yet.  I would hope that if the target
platform is identified correctly (and fully supported by gdb 6.8), the port
will be functional.

If you have the motivation and patience to look into it, I can advise you on
how to play around with the Porfile.  The first thing to do is to run port
in debug mode, i.e.:

sudo port -d destroot gdb

This will provide a lot of information on what port is doing.  The destroot
target does the configure and build, then runs make install with a custom
DESTDIR.  MacPorts uses that DESTDIR, called destroot, as a way to parse the
files in the port, install the files into
/opt/local/var/macports/software/gdb/ and then activate the port with hard
links in /opt/local to the files in the software/gdb installation.

The destroot path for this port is

/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_devel_gdb/work/destroot

The pitiful truth is that the only files currently installed there are:

.../destroot/
.../destroot//opt
.../destroot//opt/local
.../destroot//opt/local/lib
.../destroot//opt/local/lib/libiberty.a
.../destroot//opt/local/share
.../destroot//opt/local/share/info
.../destroot//opt/local/share/info/configure.info
.../destroot//opt/local/share/info/standards.info

If you want to build everything custom, without MacPorts, you can copy the
distfile into your build path from

/opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/gdb/gdb*.tar.gz

I hope we can fix this one!  I've created a new trac ticket on this issue:
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/19871

Take care,
Darren





On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Kendall Bennett
kenda...@amainhobbies.comwrote:

  Hi Darren,

 I am trying to get an updated version of GDB installed to see if it will
 solve some problems I have found with the one distributed by Apple (seems to
 have issues with breakpoints in some C++ programs, specifically Qt4 stuff).
 Anyway, I tested gdb 6.8 on Windows and it seems to not have these issues,
 so the Mac Ports version of gdb 6.8 seemed like a good option.

 Anyway, I did the installed and ran into a snag during the activation,
 saying the following:

 ---  Activating gdb
 Error: port activate failed: Image error: /opt/local/share/info/
 standards.info is being used by the active autoconf port.  Please
 deactivate this port first, or use 'port -f activate gdb' to force the
 activation.

 I have both tried deactivating autoconf and activating gdb, and leaving
 autoconf activated and forcing the activation of gdb, but there does not
 appear to be any gdb binary located anywhere under the /opt/local tree? I
 was expecting it to show up on /opt/local/bin, but there is nothing there,
 and searching the /opt/local directory does not find anything resembling a
 gdb binary?

 What am I missing here?

 Regards,

 *Kendall Bennett, CEO
 *A Main Hobbies
 424 Otterson Drive, Suite 160
 Chico, CA 95928
 1-800-705-2215 (Toll-Free)
 1-530-894-0797 (Int'l  Local)
 1-530-894-9049 (Fax)
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Re: GDB 6.8 via Mac Ports?

2009-06-05 Thread Darren Weber
Hi,

I spent a while looking into this, pretty nearly clueless about how to
resolve the problem.  I've commented on my experience today in the ticket:

http://trac.macports.org/ticket/19871

To save others the trouble, I've committed a change to the trunk of this
port so that the fetch stage just issues a message about the port failing to
build everything, with reference to that ticket.  Hopefully that will save
some trouble for others trying to use the port.  In hindsight, the port
should not have been committed in the first place, but it wasn't clear to me
at the time that it was failing to build everything.  Anyhow, sorry for all
the inconvenience!

Take care,
Darren



On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Kendall Bennett
kenda...@amainhobbies.comwrote:

  Hi Darren,

 Thanks for the update. I am a total newb when it comes to Mac Ports, and
 although I have built GDB in the past on Linux, I never really played much
 with it past just building it (and patching in debugging support for X11
 loadable modules). But that was a while ago.

 If I get time, I will play with this a bit and see if I can work it out. If
 you do get it figured out, let me know!

 Regards,

 *Kendall Bennett, CEO
 *A Main Hobbies
 424 Otterson Drive, Suite 160
 Chico, CA 95928
 1-800-705-2215 (Toll-Free)
 1-530-894-0797 (Int'l  Local)
 1-530-894-9049 (Fax)
 *http://www.amainhobbies.com
 *

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 *Date: *Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:38:09 -0700
 *To: *Kendall Bennett kenda...@amainhobbies.com
 *Cc: *MacPorts Users macports-users@lists.macosforge.org
 *Subject: *Re: GDB 6.8 via Mac Ports?



 Hi Kendall,

 I put this Portfile together in the hope that the build and install would
 be smooth.  It's not.  I'm a novice at building gdb, so I have a lot to
 learn about why this is failing.  It may be that the automatic detection of
 the target architecture is wrong, it currently detects

 checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
 checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0

 The main concern is this:

 checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
 checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
 checking target system type... i386-apple-darwin9.7.0
 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
 checking whether ln works... yes
 checking whether ln -s works... yes
 checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
 checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
 checking whether the C compiler works... yes
 checking whether we are cross compiling... no
 checking for suffix of executables...
 checking for suffix of object files... o
 checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
 checking whether /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 accepts -g... yes
 checking for /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 option to accept ANSI C... none needed
 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
 checking whether /usr/bin/g++-4.0 accepts -g... yes
 checking for gnatbind... no
 checking for gnatmake... no
 checking whether compiler driver understands Ada... no
 checking how to compare bootstrapped objects... cmp --ignore-initial=16
 $$f1 $$f2
 *** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
  bfd opcodes gdb sim
 (Any other directories should still work fine.)


 So what is happening is the build and install is working, but only
 partially.  It would be preferable that the build fails at this point, but
 it does not!

 I'm very sorry to waste your time, I wish this was working!  I think the
 main thing to get right is the target platform identifier.  I looked into it
 briefly, but it's not resolved yet.  I would hope that if the target
 platform is identified correctly (and fully supported by gdb 6.8), the port
 will be functional.

 If you have the motivation and patience to look into it, I can advise you
 on how to play around with the Porfile.  The first thing to do is to run
 port in debug mode, i.e.:

 sudo port -d destroot gdb

 This will provide a lot of information on what port is doing.  The destroot
 target does the configure and build, then runs make install with a custom
 DESTDIR.  MacPorts uses that DESTDIR, called destroot, as a way to parse the
 files in the port, install the files into
 /opt/local/var/macports/software/gdb/ and then activate the port with hard
 links in /opt/local to the files in the software/gdb installation.

 The destroot path for this port is


 /opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_devel_gdb/work/destroot

 The pitiful truth is that the only files currently installed there are:

 .../destroot/
 .../destroot//opt
 .../destroot//opt/local
 .../destroot//opt/local/lib
 .../destroot//opt/local/lib/libiberty.a
 .../destroot//opt/local/share
 .../destroot//opt/local/share/info
 .../destroot//opt/local/share/info/configure.info http://configure.info
 .../destroot//opt/local/share/info/standards.info http://standards.info

 If you want to build everything

OSX Upgrades: Snow Leopard

2009-06-08 Thread Darren Weber
What happens to a MacPorts installation when we install a distribution
upgrade to OSX, say Leopard to Snow Leopard?  Do we need to backup the
MacPorts installation, or is the ${prefix} path immune to the upgrade?  What
about startup items (launchd or anything that violates the mtree)?

Thanks in advance,
Darren
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Re: OSX Upgrades: Snow Leopard

2009-06-09 Thread Darren Weber
What's the recommended series of command lines for that?

Thanks!
Darren

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Joshua Root j...@macports.org wrote:

 On 2009-6-9 22:15, Tim Visher wrote:
  Hi Darren,
 
  On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Darren Weberdwe...@macports.org wrote:
  What happens to a MacPorts installation when we install a distribution
  upgrade to OSX, say Leopard to Snow Leopard?  Do we need to backup the
  MacPorts installation, or is the ${prefix} path immune to the upgrade?
  What
  about startup items (launchd or anything that violates the mtree)?
 
  I can't be sure technically but I've upgraded OS X for every release
  since MacPorts came out (Back when it was called DarwinPorts. Jaguar?)
  and I've never had to reinstall it.  So, anecdotally I think you're
  safe.  If you care very deeply you should of course back it up just in
  case.

 Both MacPorts base and each port are built for a specific major OS
 version. Maybe they'll work acceptably on a newer version, maybe they
 won't. The only safe option has always been to record your installed
 ports, uninstall MacPorts entirely, install the correct base version for
 your OS, then install your ports again.

 - Josh

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Re: OSX Upgrades: Snow Leopard

2009-06-15 Thread Darren Weber
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Jun 9, 2009, at 17:07, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:

  On Jun 9, 2009, at 13:36, Darren Weber wrote:

  What's the recommended series of command lines for that?


 Here's what I did:

 cd /opt/local/var/macports/software
 /bin/ls -1d *  ~/todo.mp
 cd
 sudo mv /opt/local /var/tmp/old_macports


 Moving /opt/local aside is not sufficient to uninstall MacPorts. See proper
 uninstall instructions here:

 http://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#HowdoIremoveoruninstallMacPorts


  cd src/macports/trunk/base
 ./configure  make  sudo make install
 for f in $(cat todo.mp ); do [[ -d /opt/local/var/macports/software/$f ]]
 || sudo port -v install $f; done

 I'm sure there's something ports option to do that, but /shrug...


 MacPorts doesn't include a command to help you rebuild an entire
 installation like this. This is unfortunate and makes it a rather involved
 process. But since upgrading to a new major OS version is a task users don't
 perform often, I don't think any work has gone into making this easier.


 I think the key to solving this would be to have MacPorts record more
 information in the registry about each port that was installed, including
 what version of Mac OS X it was done on, with what version of Xcode, and
 even record several of the settings from macports.conf that were in effect
 at the time. Then we can make port outdated recognize that if the current
 OS is a major version later than the one a port was installed with, the port
 needs to be rebuilt.


Interesting suggestion.  Does the receipt include the variants installed?
Is this process likely to be available in 1.8?

Take care, Darren
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Re: OSX Upgrades: Snow Leopard

2009-06-15 Thread Darren Weber
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:45 AM, vincent habchi vi...@macports.org wrote:

 Le 9 juin 09 à 14:32, Kurt Hillig a écrit :

  On the other hand I recently upgraded from 10.4 to 10.5 and my machine was
 horribly unstable until I blew away the MacPorts install.  I'm not sure why
 this was, and I didn't have the time or gumption to run a lot of
 diagnostics, so it could well be that something less drastic would have
 sufficed.


 When you upgrade, the libraries change, so you may have to recompile some
 of your bricks. For example, when SL will be out, we'll have, at least, a
 64-bit API to QuickTime, so we'll be able to compile WxWindows safely in
 64-bit mode. But maybe also the old AGL will vanished, and all ports that
 are based on it will have to be rebuild, etc.


Ah, right.

There will be changes to the default compiler in xcode, with an upgrade to a
newer version of gcc and some performance improvements with llvm.
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Re: VTK 5.2 and GL2PS export

2009-06-18 Thread Darren Weber
I've done a bit of work on vtk-devel to make some things in the installation
version specific.  I have not tested whether vtk-devel can co-exist with
vtk5.

All the work on vtk-devel was based on the default variants (cocoa shared
wrap) plus testing and examples.  Nothing has been tested extensively, and
very little has been done with x11.

If you have time to run the build and install, I suggest the huge variant,
or no variants at all will give you a default set of variants.

vtk-devel has the variants:
darwin_9: Platform variant, do not select manually
huge: provide cocoa data doc examples shared testing wrap database mpi
boost
data: provide example data in: /opt/local/share/vtk-5.4/data
doc: provide doxygen documentation in: /opt/local/share/vtk-5.4/doc
examples: provide VTK examples in: /opt/local/share/vtk-5.4/examples
shared: build shared libraries (default)
testing: provide VTK tests in: /opt/local/share/vtk-5.4/testing
carbon: build with Carbon
cocoa: build with Cocoa (default)
x11: build with X11
wrap: provide java, py26,  tcl
java: java wrapper
py25: python 2.5 wrapper
py26: python 2.6 wrapper
tcl: tcl wrapper (MacPorts tcl/tk)
tcl_apple: tcl wrapper (apple tcl/tk framework)
database: provide all database variants
mysql5: build the MySQL driver for vtkSQLDatabase
pgsql83: build the PostgreSQL 8.3 driver for vtkSQLDatabase
odbc: build the ODBC database interface
mpi: use message passing interface (mpich2) for parallel support
boost: use Boost libraries - www.boost.org
universal: Build for multiple architectures


Regards,
Darren




On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Stickel jjstic...@vcn.comwrote:

 I reinstalled vtk5 with the +x11 variant, and now the vtk rendering library
 is linked to

 /opt/local/lib/libGL.1.dylib

 However, I still have the same problem of textActors not exporting. Labels
 on axes export fine, though.  I suppose this could be reported upstream to
 VTK.  Maybe I'll try vtk-devel (vtk-5.4) when I have some more time and see
 if the problem persists.

 Jonathan



 Jeremy Huddleston wrote:

 Interesting.  We were just talking about some vtk oddities in the
 x11-users and xquartz-dev mailing list.

 Check out:
 http://www.ctcms.nist.gov/oof/renderingbug

 Since you're seeing this purely in carbon, my guess now is that this is an
 issue with either OpenGL.framework (which would mean it's in both Tiger and
 Leopard... which I think isn't too likely) or with VTK itself.

 On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:14, Jonathan Stickel wrote:

  I'm experiencing a problem using the GL2PS export feature of VTK, where
 VTK was installed via Macports (vtk5 @5.2.1_2+carbon+darwin_8+python). When
 I have a textActor in my render window, e.g. some arbitrary title or note,
 then that text does not show in the exported pdf/eps.

 I suspect the problem might be related to the OpenGL library that VTK
 links to, in this case
 /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL since I am
 using the Carbon variant.  Can someone verify that they see this problem
 also?  Any knowledge about how to resolve this?  I am currently on Tiger.

 Thanks,
 Jonathan
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Re: [MacPorts] #20773: Add zope2.10

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Weber
I'm curious about using Plone, which is currently at version 3.3.  I've
downloaded the unified installer from http://plone.org/products/plone and
I'll take a look at the content of that package to see what the latest
dependencies are (most likely they are satisfied by some MacPorts).
However, it appears the zope port is outdated.

Is anyone else working on the Zope port?  Is it a significant dependency of
many other ports that are in wide use now?  That is, what reason is there
for the zope port to be outdated, if any?  Are there functional reasons,
politics, superceded software, or what?

Thanks,
Darren




On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, MacPorts nore...@macports.org wrote:

 #20773: Add zope2.10

 -+--
  Reporter:  mar...@… |   Owner:  macports-tick...@…
 Type:  submission   |  Status:  new
  Priority:  Normal   |   Milestone:
 Component:  ports| Version:  1.7.1
  Keywords:   |Port:  zope zope2.10

 -+--
  As stated on the mailing list ( http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail
  /macports-users/2009-February/013697.html ) I think there should be a port
  for zope2.10 (and probably zope2.9, zope2.11). As with the different
  Python versions it is a dependency for other applications like Plone.

  The attached port file is tested with MacPorts 1.710, Mac OS X 10.5,
  Intel.

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Re: [MacPorts] #20773: Add zope2.10

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Weber
I'm curious about zope/plone, so not the best option to be a maintainer.  I
can, however, take a shot at the update, although it's not looking like a
trivial process to get up to speed on this one!

Check out this list of ports in the dports/zope tree:

zope-archetypes/
zope-btreefolder2/
zope-cmf/
zope-cmfactionicons/
zope-cmfformcontroller/
zope-cmfmessage/
zope-cmfphoto/
zope-cmfphotoalbum/
zope-cmfplone/
zope-cmfquickinstallertool/
zope-cmfusertracktool/
zope-cvsfile/
zope-emil_email_client/
zope-externaleditor/
zope-externalfile/
zope-extfile/
zope-formulator/
zope-generator/
zope-groupuserfolder/
zope-localfs/
zope-localizer/
zope-mimetypesregistry/
zope-placelesstranslationservice/
zope-ploneerrorreporting/
zope-plonekeywordmanager/
zope-ploneloginhistory/
zope-plonewebmail/
zope-portaltransforms/
zope-revisionmanager/
zope-stripogram/
zope-usersniffer/
zope-usertrack/
zope-validation/
zope-zopetree/
zope-zopezen/
zope-zphotoslides/
zope-zsyncer/


The download link looks simple enough:
http://www.zope.org/Products/

Zope appears to be stable at 2.11.4 and 3.4.0, so the dilemma may be which
one or how many to port?

From the zope site, we have options to download/install various python CMF
too:
http://www.zope.org/Products/CMF/

The recent stable versions of the python CMF available are 2.1.1, which is
not the same as the python-zopeinterface version (3.3.0).

The plot thickens when we get to the level of a Plone dependency tree, i.e.:
http://plone.org/documentation/faq/plone-versions

From this FAQ, it appears the plone installation may require it's own
tailor-made CMF.

For my part, I want to focus on Plone.  I may work out a way to install
plone with the bundled dependencies to avoid conflicts with other ports OR
try to massage a Plone port to work with other ports.  Note the specific
dependency for Plone 3.x on python2.4.4 - it just doesn't get more specific
than that ;-)  As a general note about MacPorts, the general philosophy to
maintain the most up to date packages is good.  It's best to avoid multiple
installation versions, wherever possible.  In this case (Plone 3.x), it
appears the very specific dependency requirements may force us to adopt some
very version specific ports to satisfy those dependencies (eg, a port for
python2.4.4 and zope2.10.x.

Take care,
Darren




On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:


 On Sep 8, 2009, at 14:53, Darren Weber wrote:

  I'm curious about using Plone, which is currently at version 3.3.  I've
 downloaded the unified installer from http://plone.org/products/plone and
 I'll take a look at the content of that package to see what the latest
 dependencies are (most likely they are satisfied by some MacPorts).
  However, it appears the zope port is outdated.

 Is anyone else working on the Zope port?  Is it a significant dependency
 of many other ports that are in wide use now?  That is, what reason is there
 for the zope port to be outdated, if any?  Are there functional reasons,
 politics, superceded software, or what?


 As far as I know, the zope ports (there are 43 ports with zope in the
 name) are outdated because nobody maintains them. (Only the three
 py*-zopeinterface ports are maintained.) It would be great if somebody would
 maintain the rest of them and update them.


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port upgrade outdated - stops at build failure on doxygen

2009-10-02 Thread Darren Weber
First, a general question about how the outdated ports are sorted - are they
sorted alphabetically or is there a dependency heirarchy (or tree) that is
searched to identify the order for upgrade?

Now, is it possible to have 'port update outdated' continue after a build
failure?  Below is an example of a long list of outdated ports and the
upgrade procedure fails on a port early in the process (doxygen in this
case).  So the upgrade stops without updating the rest of the outdated
ports.

For example:

[ m...@xxx ~ ]$ port outdated
The following installed ports are outdated:
doxygen1.5.9_1  1.6.1_0
editres1.0.3_1  1.0.4_0
ffmpeg 0.5_3  0.5_5
gcc_select 0.1_3  0.1_4
gegl   0.1.0_1  0.1.0_2
git-core   1.6.4.2_0  1.6.4.4_0
glibmm 2.20.1_0  2.20.2_0
gnupg  1.4.9_0  1.4.10_0
gnupg2 2.0.12_1  2.0.13_0
gpg-agent  2.0.11_1  2.0.13_0
GraphicsMagick 1.3.6_0  1.3.7_0
ImageMagick6.5.5-7_0  6.5.6-1_0
iso-codes  3.10.3_0  3.11_0
jasper 1.900.1_4  1.900.1_5
libgeotiff 1.2.5_0  1.2.5_1
libksba1.0.5_0  1.0.7_0
libquicktime   1.1.3_0  1.1.3_1
librsvg2.26.0_0  2.26.0_1
libsdl 1.2.13_6  1.2.14_6
libsdl_gfx 2.0.19_0  2.0.20_0
libsigcxx2 2.2.3_0  2.2.4.2_0
libtheora  1.0_0  1.1.1_0
libusb 1.0.2_0  1.0.3_0
libxmlxx2  2.26.0_0  2.26.1_0
libxslt1.1.24_2  1.1.26_0
llvm   2.5_0  2.5_1
luit   1.0.3_1  1.0.4_0
maxima 5.18.1_0  5.19.2_0
mcpp   2.7.2_1  2.7.2_3
mesa   7.4.3_0  7.6_0
mod_wsgi   1.1_1  2.5_0
mysql5 5.0.85_0  5.0.86_0
mysql5-server  5.0.85_0  5.0.86_0
neon   0.28.4_0  0.28.6_0
netcdf 4.0_0  4.0.1_5
ocaml  3.11.1_0  3.11.1_2
openmotif  2.3.1-1_2  2.3.2_0
orbit2 2.14.17_0  2.14.17_1
p5-archive-tar 1.52_0  1.54_0
p5-compress-raw-bzip2  2.019_0  2.021_0
p5-compress-raw-zlib   2.020_0  2.021_0
p5-datetime0.47_0  0.50_0
p5-datetime-locale 0.42_0  0.44_0
p5-datetime-timezone   0.86_0  0.99_0
p5-digest-sha1 2.11_0  2.12_0
p5-extutils-cbuilder   0.2603_0  0.260301_0
p5-extutils-parsexs2.2002_0  2.200401_0
p5-html-parser 3.60_0  3.62_0
p5-libwww-perl 5.826_0  5.832_0
p5-mime-base64 3.07_0  3.08_0
p5-module-build0.34_0  0.35_0
p5-params-validate 0.91_0  0.92_0
p5-test-manifest   1.22_0  1.23_0
p5-uri 1.38_0  1.40_0
p5-version 0.76_0  0.7702_0
p5-xml-libxml  1.66_0  1.69_0
p5-xml-libxslt 1.66_0  1.68_0
p5-xml-parser-lite-tree0.03_0  0.11_0
p5-xml-xpathengine 0.11_0  0.12_0
php5   5.3.0_2  5.3.0_3
php5-apc   3.1.2_3  3.1.3p1_0
php5-http  1.6.3_3  1.6.5_0
pinentry   0.7.5_0  0.7.6_0
poppler0.11.1_0  0.12.0_0
postgresql83   8.3.7_0  8.3.8_0
postgresql83-server8.3.7_0  8.3.8_0
postgresql84   8.4.0_0  8.4.1_0
py-lint0.16.0_0  0.18.1_0
py-logilab-astng   0.17.4_0  0.19.1_0
py-logilab-common  0.42.0_0  0.45.0_0
py25-logilab-common0.42.0_0  0.45.0_0
py25-scientific2.6.1_0  2.8_0
py26-cairo 1.8.4_0  1.8.8_0
py26-ipython   0.9.1_0  0.10_0
py26-mpmath0.12_0  0.13_0
py26-nose  0.10.4_0  0.11.1_0
py26-pil   1.1.6_0  1.1.6_1
py26-tz2009j_0  2009n_0
python25   2.5.4_6  2.5.4_7
R  2.9.1_0  2.9.2_0
samba3 3.2.13_0  3.2.15_0
schroedinger   1.0.7_0  1.0.7_1
subversion 1.6.3_0  1.6.5_0
taglib 1.5_0  1.6_0
testdisk   6.9_0  6.11_0
tightvnc   1.3.9_0  1.3.9_2
vim7.2.222_0  7.2.245_1
vim-app7.2.222_0  7.2.245_0
VLC1.0.0_1  1.0.2_0
vtk-devel  5.4.0_5  5.4.2_0
wget   1.11.4_3  1.12_0
wxWidgets-devel

vtk-devel updated to 5.4.2

2009-10-05 Thread Darren Weber
The port for vtk-devel has been updated to ver 5.4.2 (it may take a few
hours to propagate this svn update into the rsync distribution).

This update builds and installs using 'sudo port install vtk-devel +huge'.
(This updated version was only tested on Leopard.)

The port now uses PostgreSQL 8.4 instead of 8.3 (the 8.3 variant is still
available for those who require that - get back to me with any problems
doing an upgrade or new install that requires the pgsql83 variant).

Take care,
Darren

PS, The Portfile can be viewed here:
http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/graphics/vtk-devel/Portfile
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location of hdf5 header files

2009-10-08 Thread Darren Weber
In cursory exploration of /opt/local/include/, it appears that many, if not
all, of the hdf5 header files are located at the root of
/opt/local/include/.  Is that a mistake?  Should the hdf5 include files get
stored into something like /opt/local/include/hdf5/?

Take care,
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Re: location of hdf5 header files

2009-10-08 Thread Darren Weber
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Oct 8, 2009, at 13:37, Darren Weber wrote:

  In cursory exploration of /opt/local/include/, it appears that many, if
 not all, of the hdf5 header files are located at the root of
 /opt/local/include/.  Is that a mistake?  Should the hdf5 include files get
 stored into something like /opt/local/include/hdf5/?


 Using port contents hdf5 | grep \\.h$ I would agree that all this port's
 headers are in ${prefix}/include. Is that a problem? Would it be better to
 have them in a subdirectory? The port doesn't seem to do anything to change
 the header location at present, so it just installs them where the developer
 of that software thought they should go. Is there a problem you're trying to
 solve by moving the headers?



Ah, it's not a current problem that prevents or interference with other
ports within MacPorts, ASFAIK.

Firstly, it's a convenience.  When using ctags or any IDE system to analyze
a set of header files (for programming autocompletion), it is convenient to
have the headers in a package specific path within the general
${prefix}/include path.  This is especially true for large packages, like
wx*, vtk*, InsightToolkit*, etc.

Secondly, it's a safety-net.  At the very least, it is significant and
important that any headers located in the generic ${prefix}/include have
some kind of unique naming convention, like a prefix in their file name, to
avoid any conflicts with other software packages.  The hdf5 package appears
to have  the file prefix of H5 to distinguish it from other packages.
However, a two-char prefix is not exactly a reliable unique identifier,
especially on a file system that is not case sensitive.  To avoid potential
conflicts with other software packages, it may be preferable to locate the
headers within ${prefix}/include/hdf5/.  An additional layer may be added by
using ${prefix}/include/hdf5-${ver} where ver=1.6 (as of the current
writing, we have hdf5 @ 1.6.9).  The version specific path should allow
multiple versions of the library to co-exist in the ports tree (in this
regard, we have seen some issues with versions of the hdf5 port in relation
to the netcdf port).

Take care,
Darren
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Re: location of hdf5 header files

2009-10-08 Thread Darren Weber
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Jochen Küpper 
kuepper.joc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 08.10.2009, at 21:46, Darren Weber wrote:

  On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org
 wrote:
 On Oct 8, 2009, at 13:37, Darren Weber wrote:

 In cursory exploration of /opt/local/include/, it appears that many, if
 not all, of the hdf5 header files are located at the root of
 /opt/local/include/.  Is that a mistake?  Should the hdf5 include files get
 stored into something like /opt/local/include/hdf5/?

 Using port contents hdf5 | grep \\.h$ I would agree that all this port's
 headers are in ${prefix}/include. Is that a problem? Would it be better to
 have them in a subdirectory? The port doesn't seem to do anything to change
 the header location at present, so it just installs them where the developer
 of that software thought they should go. Is there a problem you're trying to
 solve by moving the headers?



 Ah, it's not a current problem that prevents or interference with other
 ports within MacPorts, ASFAIK.

 Firstly, it's a convenience.  When using ctags or any IDE system to
 analyze a set of header files (for programming autocompletion), it is
 convenient to have the headers in a package specific path within the general
 ${prefix}/include path.  This is especially true for large packages, like
 wx*, vtk*, InsightToolkit*, etc.

 Secondly, it's a safety-net.  At the very least, it is significant and
 important that any headers located in the generic ${prefix}/include have
 some kind of unique naming convention, like a prefix in their file name, to
 avoid any conflicts with other software packages.  The hdf5 package appears
 to have  the file prefix of H5 to distinguish it from other packages.
  However, a two-char prefix is not exactly a reliable unique identifier,
 especially on a file system that is not case sensitive.  To avoid potential
 conflicts with other software packages, it may be preferable to locate the
 headers within ${prefix}/include/hdf5/.  An additional layer may be added by
 using ${prefix}/include/hdf5-${ver} where ver=1.6 (as of the current
 writing, we have hdf5 @ 1.6.9).  The version specific path should allow
 multiple versions of the library to co-exist in the ports tree (in this
 regard, we have seen some issues with versions of the hdf5 port in relation
 to the netcdf port).


 But you then have to teach your compiler where to find the headers
 individually for all these packets...  Software written for hdf5 generally
 assumes that
  #include H5...
 works and no
  #include hdf5-1.x/H5...
 is necessary...

 I think it's fine as it is, until there is a actual name clash.
 Then it should be fixed upstream and all software has to be adopted to the
 new naming scheme...




Yes, it's best practice to avoid #includes like this:
#include hdf5-1.x/H5...

Rather, the common and perhaps preferred method to avoid such #include code
styles is to use an include path as an argument to the compiler.  This is
the way to provide code that can build on various systems and it's the
purpose of autoconf and similar tools to figure out where to find the
libraries if they are not specified using some form of include path option
(gcc has the -I and -L options).

For example, assume a source file contains:
#include H5ArrayType.h

This file may be compiled on any distribution (where the package maintainers
determine where stuff goes), using the convention of specific include path
options for autoconf-like tools or the compiler suite.

If the hdf5 libs are located in /opt/local/, that is the path to provide,
eg:
gcc -I/opt/local ...

Software developers do suggest the default locations for the include and
lib files in the default settings for autoconf and like tools (perhaps they
provide a install shell script with defaults).  The defaults are often
consistent with a general consensus on where things go, like /usr/local and
such.  Note that MacPorts already discards the general consensus for using
/usr/* paths, for good reason too.  It is just a consensus, not a rule of
law.  The beauty of path specifications for autoconf and compilers is that
the source code can be developed independently of the installation location
for the headers/libs and, furthermore, package distribution systems can use
ANY path configuration (e.g., AFAIK fink uses /sw/*).

Getting back to the main point here, in the case of hdf5, there are multiple
ports related to this software package:

[ m...@xxx ~ ]$ port search hdf
h4h5tools @2.0 (science)
HDF4 to HDF5 conversion tools.
hdf4 @4.2r4 (science)
file format for storing scientific data and utilities
hdf5 @1.6.9 (science)
HDF5 general purpose library and file format for storing scientific data
hdf5-18 @1.8.3 (science)
HDF5 general purpose library and file format for storing scientific data
hdfeos @2.15v1.00 (science)
HDF-EOS library built on HDF4
py25-tables @2.1.2 (python, python, science)
Python package for HDF5 file access.
py26

cvs2svn dependencies

2009-10-08 Thread Darren Weber
With reference to this page:
http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/cvs2svn.html

There are various run-time dependencies indicated under the title of
Requirements.  Are any of these included as dependencies in the MacPorts
cvs2svn port?  (I don't see any.)

Also, is it possible to have a symlink or hardlink:

/opt/local/bin/cvs2svn -
/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/cvs2svn

Take care,
Darren
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Re: cvs2svn dependencies

2009-10-08 Thread Darren Weber
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Daniel J. Luke dl...@geeklair.net wrote:

 On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Darren Weber wrote:

 With reference to this page:
 http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/cvs2svn.html

 There are various run-time dependencies indicated under the title of
 Requirements.  Are any of these included as dependencies in the MacPorts
 cvs2svn port?  (I don't see any.)


 That page lists

 1- python (which is a port dependency)
 2- db library and python bindings (python26 port builds with db46 and gdbm
 already)
 3- gnu sort (comes with mac os x)

 optionally can use rcs or cvs if you pass in appropriate options (and you
 can pass the path to those binaries). both cvs and rcs are included with Mac
 OS X (or you could install a macports version if you wanted and point
 cvs2svn to them).

 did you notice something broken?


No, I just couldn't find 'cvs2svn' in the default bin path.  Then looking
over the web page indicated earlier it appeared that some dependencies were
not specified, but you clarified all that above.  I guess it wouldn't hurt
to specify build or lib dependencies on 'gdbm' and 'coreutils' (but
coreutils can install with a 'g' prefix such as /opt/local/bin/gsort and
it's unlikely that cvs2svn will look for that).




  Also, is it possible to have a symlink or hardlink:

 /opt/local/bin/cvs2svn -
 /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/cvs2svn


 cvs2svn used to install to ${prefix}/bin but the python26 portgroup sets
 prefix to ${frameworks_dir}/Python.framework/Versions/2.6

 presumably this is so that one could install a cvs2svn against python26 and
 one against another version of python...

 Linking cvs2bzr, cvs2git, and cvs2svn to ${prefix}/bin would be one
 possible solution ...



Oh, I see.  (Maybe they should be using $pyPrefix to avoid a clash with the
general MacPorts $prefix?)

I now have a bash alias as a personal work-around:
alias
cvs2svn='/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/cvs2svn'

Thanks!
Darren
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X11 flicker (using imagemagick::animate)

2009-11-04 Thread Darren Weber
Does anyone see a lot of flicker and poor interaction behavior when using
the animate tool from ImageMagick?

It's almost useless on 10.5.8, with XQuartz 2.4.0.

It looks like ImageMagick builds against MacPorts X11 libs, not the XQuartz
installation:

$ otool -L /opt/local/bin/animate
/opt/local/bin/animate:
/opt/local/lib/libMagickCore.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.0.0,
current version 3.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libMagickWand.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.0.0,
current version 3.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libtiff.3.dylib (compatibility version 13.0.0, current
version 13.1.0)
/opt/local/lib/libjbig.2.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current
version 0.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
111.1.4)
/opt/local/lib/libjpeg.62.dylib (compatibility version 63.0.0, current
version 63.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libfftw3.3.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0, current
version 6.4.0)
/opt/local/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib (compatibility version 6.0.0,
current version 6.3.0)
/opt/local/lib/libexpat.1.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.2.0)
/opt/local/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0,
current version 10.20.0)
/opt/local/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (compatibility version 8.0.0, current
version 8.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXext.6.dylib (compatibility version 11.0.0, current
version 11.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXt.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libbz2.1.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.0.5)
/opt/local/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.2.3)
/opt/local/lib/libltdl.7.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current
version 10.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libSM.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.1.0)
/opt/local/lib/libICE.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current
version 10.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libX11.6.dylib (compatibility version 10.0.0, current
version 10.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXau.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libXdmcp.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current
version 7.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgomp.1.dylib (compatibility version 2.0.0, current
version 2.0.0)
/opt/local/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.0.0)
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Re: how to remove distfiles etc. (short of disk space on a laptop)

2009-11-07 Thread Darren Weber
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Jochen Küpper 
kuepper.joc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 06.11.2009, at 19:30, Darren Weber wrote:

  We have a laptop that is very short on disk space.  There is a bunch of
 stuff lying around in:


 It would be a start to run
  port clean –-all all


There are some warnings, like:

---  Cleaning arm-aout-binutils
Warning: Distfiles directory '/opt/local/var/macports/
distfiles/binutils' may contain distfiles needed for other ports, use the -f
flag to force removal
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port inactive - not really inactive?

2009-11-07 Thread Darren Weber
What's an explanation for this apparent anomaly:

$ port echo inactive
binutils   @2.20_0
g95@0.91_1+darwin_9
gnupg  @1.4.10_0
gnutar @1.22_0
hdf5-18@1.8.3_0
hdf5-18@1.8.3_1
snip

$ sudo port uninstall inactive
---  Uninstalling binutils @2.20_0
---  Uninstalling g95 @0.91_1+darwin_9
---  Unable to uninstall gnupg 1.4.10_0, the following ports depend on it:
---  p5-module-signature
Error: port uninstall failed: Please uninstall the ports that depend on
gnupg first.

$ port installed gnupg
The following ports are currently installed:
  gnupg @1.4.10_0

$ port installed gnupg*
The following ports are currently installed:
  gnupg @1.4.10_0
  gnupg2 @2.0.13_0+darwin (active)

$ port installed p5-module*
The following ports are currently installed:
  p5-module-build @0.35_0 (active)
  p5-module-signature @0.55_0 (active)

$ port deps p5-module-signature
Full Name: p5-module-signature @0.55
Library Dependencies: perl5, gnupg, p5-digest-sha


How is it possible for p5-module-signature to depend on an inactive port?
Is this an indication to fix this with:

$ sudo port install gnupg
Password:
---  Computing dependencies for gnupg
---  Activating gnupg @1.4.10_0
---  Cleaning gnupg

$ port installed gnupg*
The following ports are currently installed:
  gnupg @1.4.10_0 (active)
  gnupg2 @2.0.13_0+darwin (active)


TIA,
Darren
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HDF5 dilemma

2009-11-07 Thread Darren Weber
I've got a hdf5 dilemma ;-)

$ port installed hdf5*
The following ports are currently installed:
  hdf5 @1.6.9_0+threadsafe (active)
  hdf5-18 @1.8.3_0
  hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1

$ sudo port activate hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1
---  Activating hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1
Error: port activate failed: Image error: /opt/local/bin/gif2h5 is being
used by the active hdf5 port.  Please deactivate this port first, or use
'port -f activate hdf5-18' to force the activation.

The hdf5 and hdf5-18 ports are behaving like separate ports, up to the point
of activation conflicts.  There are two maintainers for these ports (in the
CC list of this email); can we get together on this and work out the
activation conflict?

Is it possible to have multiple version specific libs/bins installed?  Is it
as simple as providing some version specific file-name mangles (with
symlinks and maybe a hdf5_select utility like the gcc_select or
python_select utility)?

A quick search on the user email list brings up a number of ports that
depend on hdf5 with dependency build issues.

What is the current status of play on hdf5 and what is the recommended
version to have installed?

Take care,
Darren
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Re: HDF5 dilemma

2009-11-07 Thread Darren Weber
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Darren Weber dwe...@macports.org wrote:


 I've got a hdf5 dilemma ;-)

 $ port installed hdf5*
 The following ports are currently installed:
   hdf5 @1.6.9_0+threadsafe (active)
   hdf5-18 @1.8.3_0
   hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1

 $ sudo port activate hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1
 ---  Activating hdf5-18 @1.8.3_1
 Error: port activate failed: Image error: /opt/local/bin/gif2h5 is being
 used by the active hdf5 port.  Please deactivate this port first, or use
 'port -f activate hdf5-18' to force the activation.

 The hdf5 and hdf5-18 ports are behaving like separate ports, up to the
 point of activation conflicts.  There are two maintainers for these ports
 (in the CC list of this email); can we get together on this and work out the
 activation conflict?

 Is it possible to have multiple version specific libs/bins installed?  Is
 it as simple as providing some version specific file-name mangles (with
 symlinks and maybe a hdf5_select utility like the gcc_select or
 python_select utility)?

 A quick search on the user email list brings up a number of ports that
 depend on hdf5 with dependency build issues.

 What is the current status of play on hdf5 and what is the recommended
 version to have installed?

 Take care,
 Darren



PS,

$ for f in `find macports.svn/dports -name Portfile`; do grep -H hdf5 $f;
done
macports.svn/dports/math/gnudatalanguage/Portfile:
port:hdf5-18 \
macports.svn/dports/math/gnudatalanguage/Portfile:   reinplace
s|-L\$with_hdf5/lib/hdf -L\$with_hdf5/lib/hdf5|| \
macports.svn/dports/math/gnudatalanguage/Portfile:   reinplace
s|-I\$with_hdf5/include/hdf -I\$with_hdf5/include/hdf5|| \
macports.svn/dports/math/gnudatalanguage/Portfile:
--with-hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/math/octave/Portfile:port:hdf5-18 \
macports.svn/dports/math/octave/Portfile:--with-hdf5 \
macports.svn/dports/math/petsc/Portfile:variant hdf5 description {build with
support for HDF5 file format} {
macports.svn/dports/math/petsc/Portfile:configure.args-append
--with-hdf5=1 --with-hdf5-dir=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/math/petsc/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5-18
macports.svn/dports/python/py-tables/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5 port:py-numpy port:bzip2
macports.svn/dports/python/py-tables/Portfile:
--hdf5=${prefix}
macports.svn/dports/python/py-tables/Portfile:destroot.args
--hdf5=${prefix}
macports.svn/dports/python/py25-h5py/Portfile:configure.args  --api=18
--hdf5=${prefix}
macports.svn/dports/python/py25-h5py/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:py25-numpy port:hdf5-18
macports.svn/dports/python/py25-tables/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5-18 \
macports.svn/dports/python/py25-tables/Portfile:
--hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/python/py25-tables/Portfile:destroot.args
--hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/python/py26-h5py/Portfile:configure.args  --api=18
--hdf5=${prefix}
macports.svn/dports/python/py26-h5py/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:py26-numpy port:hdf5-18
macports.svn/dports/python/py26-tables/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5-18 \
macports.svn/dports/python/py26-tables/Portfile:
--hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/python/py26-tables/Portfile:destroot.args
--hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/science/cdo/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5-18
macports.svn/dports/science/cdo/Portfile:configure.args-append
--with-hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/science/gdal/Portfile:--without-ogdi
--without-fme --without-hdf4 --without-hdf5 \
macports.svn/dports/science/gdal/Portfile:variant hdf5 description {Enable
HDF5 file format} {
macports.svn/dports/science/gdal/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5
macports.svn/dports/science/gdal/Portfile:configure.args-delete
--without-hdf5
macports.svn/dports/science/gdal/Portfile:configure.args-append
--with-hdf5=${prefix}
macports.svn/dports/science/h4h5tools/Portfile:depends_lib-append
port:hdf5 \
macports.svn/dports/science/hdf5/Portfile:namehdf5
macports.svn/dports/science/hdf5/Portfile:
ftp://ftp.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/prev-releases/hdf5-${version}/src/
macports.svn/dports/science/hdf5-18/Portfile:set realnamehdf5
macports.svn/dports/science/hdf5-18/Portfile:
ftp://ftp.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/prev-releases/hdf5-${version}/src/
macports.svn/dports/science/nco/Portfile:   depends_lib-append
port:hdf5-18 \
macports.svn/dports/science/netcdf/Portfile:variant netcdf4 description
{compile with hdf5} {
macports.svn/dports/science/netcdf/Portfile:configure.env-append
LDFLAGS=-L${prefix}/lib LIBS=-lhdf5 -lhdf5_hl
macports.svn/dports/science/netcdf/Portfile:
--with-hdf5=${prefix} \
macports.svn/dports/science/netcdf/Portfile:
port:hdf5-18
macports.svn/dports/science/vis5d/Portfile:#reinplace s|-lnetcdf
\$V5D_LIBS_AUX|-lnetcdf -lhdf5_hl -lhdf5 -lz -lcurl \$V5D_LIBS_AUX| \
macports.svn/dports/science/wgrib2/Portfile:
-lgrib2c -ljasper -lnetcdf -lhdf5_hl -lhdf5 -lpng -lz\ 
macports.svn/dports/science/wgrib2