Re: selecting individual pictures within i-photo:hello all:
Hmm looks like you might need to use image capture then to do the import if it is from your phone. Good luck. On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: Hello; Here is how I do it. First make sure iphoto isn't set to automatically import photos. Next create a folder for your pictures. I have a photos folder on my desktop. When I want to do a project in iphoto i start by deleting past imports. Then i choose import on the menu and browse through until i find the picture or pictures I'm looking for. I select them and press accept or import or whatever the button says. then in the most recent import you will have these photos. I use iphoto often to creat slide shows or to make albumns for uploading to facebook. i hope this helps. take care, Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
I'm with you, I'm not having issues with sounds. On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I can hear all sounds actually and I believe it says who is calling. I cannot so far reproduce that. S On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
Hi Sarah, If you can hear all sounds, can you please give us an overview of your settings, and a recording of the alerts doing what they are supposed to do? I ask because I find it strangely peculiar that mostly everyone hear seems to have issues with the alerts, and two people are reporting differently. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I can hear all sounds actually and I believe it says who is calling. I cannot so far reproduce that. S On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: selecting individual pictures within i-photo:hello all:
Try iPhoto in iLife 11. It's almost 100% accessible now, except for a few radio buttons that need labels. You now can select pictures, read all related descriptions and info, and do what ever you want with the photos. Cheers, John André On 7. nov. 2010, at 04.51, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't think it's possibil. I've tried over and over again to use that program and it to me does not look usable. i hoe someone can prove me wronmg on that in terms of selecting pics but good luck. On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: I am in need of some assistance of help with selecting picture's within the i-photo application of my mack book pro. while using voice over key strokes. thanks a lot sincerely, chenelle Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Dear Kevin, I open the link you provided and can hear nothing playing even though I press the play button. Can you help? Kawal. On 7 Nov 2010, at 03:06, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by: Kevin Shaw Produced by: James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at: Ryerson University Mastering:Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ipod question for a friend
Hello, A friend of mine asked for help in obtaining info on an ipod touch. I know nothing about them, but would like to help. Hope this is ok. My friend writes thus: I'm planning to buy the 64gb Touch and there's a feature on all the Touch models that I have a feeling is not accessible with the vo and iTunes that are on the machines themselves. Somehow, you can load artists and albums on the Touch and then use playlist to go to create playlists directly on the machine without having to sync with iTunes. This would be very cool if you were away from home for any extended period and wanted to add to or delete from playlists without having to sync. Initially, I guess you would have to sync to get the artists/albums you want onto the Touch but I would like to mess with playlists right on the machine since I wouldn't have my computer available while away from home. Advice appreciated. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Dear Kevin. I downloaded the file and all is fine. Kawal. On 7 Nov 2010, at 03:06, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by: Kevin Shaw Produced by: James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at: Ryerson University Mastering:Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Kawal, I had the same problem you had. How did you download the file? js On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear Kevin. I downloaded the file and all is fine. Kawal. On 7 Nov 2010, at 03:06, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by: Kevin Shaw Produced by: James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at: Ryerson University Mastering:Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Hi! It may just have been your connection between Dropbox. Patience is usually the key. Also, check right next to the mute button. That displays the current length. When that displays, you know the file has loaded properly. To download the file, you can usually just go to your location bar (Command-L), then hit Option-Return. I'm sure you could do it from the file menu as well, but I always found this quicker to ensure it downloads. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:49 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: Kawal, I had the same problem you had. How did you download the file? js On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear Kevin. I downloaded the file and all is fine. Kawal. On 7 Nov 2010, at 03:06, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by:Kevin Shaw Produced by: James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at: Ryerson University Mastering: Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Does anyone have experience with a product called radio shark
Hi, I just bought this off of Amazon, it sounds neat, I figured I'd take the chance. I will let you all know how it works once it comes in. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:22 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Justin, I haven't used this product, but I remember that Cheryl posted about using this on the list a long time ago (in early 2006, to be exact). Here's her post from the old mailing list (before the list moved to Google Groups) at the Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg02917.html If you read down the thread, both Cheryl and Scott Howell commented on this. I think there wasn't an accessibility problem but there might have been some issues with reception back then. Haven't heard about this product since then, so any improvements would not have been remarked on. And Cheryl's no longer subscribing to this list, but she's on the viphone list. You'll just have to ask around. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 6, 2010, at 19:06, Justin Ekis wrote: And of course I forgot to paste the link, again. http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/radioshark2 On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: Hi ALl, I'm going to break one of my own rules here. I rarely write to a list to ask if something is accessible, I'll just download it and try the demo. On the mac, your chances are quite high that it will work with voiceover. In this case however, the software is included as part of a product, and there's no way to try it out first. Radio Shark is an AM/FM radio receiver that you control with your computer. It can also record the radio for future listening. I'd like to have this since a few local stations do not stream online. Also if they do stream, they shut the stream down during baseball games or other programming where their contract requires this. So I'm wondering if anyone has used this. If so, is the included software accessible? For anyone else that wants to investigate, the web page for this product is at the below link, but you can get it for less at amazon.com. Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iMac VS Mac Mini
You would be fine with a Mini and you can go for the Mini with a 2.53Ghz processor and have no problems. On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: What about if you run Windows? On Nov 6, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote: James, There is a significant difference between the Mini and iMac in terms of available options for the processor. The selection of the processor will be based on the need. If you do a lot of audio editing, you will want more horsepower or if you run a number of VMs. If you do a lot of video editing, then you would of course want a lot more horsepower. However, if you primarily surf the web, e-mail, watch some videos, listen to music, books, etc., you are correct that you do not need as much horsepower. Scott On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:53 AM, James Malone wrote: I would personally say a Mac Mini. I Don't really see much difference between the Mac Mini's processor and the iMac. Another thing to note is that for most things, a mac is not really that processor intensive at all. I recently bought a macbook pro, but it was the 2.4 instead of the 2.6. My sister has the 2.6, and I've noticed really no difference. The fact that apple create both the hardware and softwear also helps a bunch. Hth, James. On 06/11/2010, at 1:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Why do you have two of them? I could see having a desktop, and a lap top, but two Minis surprise me. Do you have 1 hooked up to your TV? On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You would pay quite a bit more for the imac, I would say go for the mini, I have 2 of them here, and unless you're doing something that requires the top of the line latest and greatest hardware, the mini should easily suffice. On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: I do have the monitor, speakers, etc; however the iMac has more HD space. Hmm. On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Scott Howell wrote: If you have a monitor, go for the Mini unless you have a real need for the fastest processor possible and need a lot of drive space on the machine. The iMac offers more options in terms of processing power and hard drive space. Of course you do get the monitor included. My advice is this: 1. Determine what you need. In other words, what are you going to use the machine for and plan this out over at least three years as a minimum. UNless your one of those folks who upgrade frequently, you want to get a machine that will grow with you and I tend to keep machines forever, but if I consider upgrading, it usually is on a three to five year cycle depending on what my family needs. :) Yeah, I'm really nice, I give them the well tested machines. :) 2. Price out more than one option. For example, if you are leaning toward a MIni, but you want more drive space and ram, do the math and see if it would make more sense to go with an iMac versus a Mini. Of course others will have different opinions, but hope this helps. On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: All: I''ll eventually replace my old PC desktop when ever it decides to die. I'm trying to decide between a Mac mini VS an iMac. Any thoughts on either Mac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
iphone 4g and 3gs
Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Skype 5 beta and the call window
Hi folks. I'm trying out the skype 5 beta from various aspects and have come across one that has me quite confused. When in a call, at least my voiceover doesn't see the whole window with contacts list, source list etc and the menu for participants in conference calls etc. Am i not able to do that, or is it just something i've overlooked? If so, what could it be? I've tried the item chooser, but that didn't work, it shows me the items of the call/chat window. Wonder why this is? Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
No. It's to big. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:03 AM, M AUSTEN m.aust...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
So, Kevin, SIAP but do you feel that pro tools is worth the buy and is it accessible for most things? Kev On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Kevin, veyr nicely done. Scott On Nov 6, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by:Kevin Shaw Produced by: James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at: Ryerson University Mastering: Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
See if these videos work with Click to Flash
OK, I've installed the Click to Flash extension hoping I would play videos at the following site: http://www.freespeech.org/videos-demand After I follow the link to one of the videos, I don't find this toolbar that everybody keeps talking about to play the video. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Thanks in advance. Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com Follow me on Facebook. http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r170f8385refid=7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Does anyone have experience with a product called radio shark
Hi Justin. Do you happen to have either audio hijack pro or radio shift? I ask because both of those programs can apparently control the radio shark. So if the included software doesn't work, you still may be in luck. Darcy On 2010-11-07, at 1:04 AM, Justin Ekis wrote: Hi ALl, I'm going to break one of my own rules here. I rarely write to a list to ask if something is accessible, I'll just download it and try the demo. On the mac, your chances are quite high that it will work with voiceover. In this case however, the software is included as part of a product, and there's no way to try it out first. Radio Shark is an AM/FM radio receiver that you control with your computer. It can also record the radio for future listening. I'd like to have this since a few local stations do not stream online. Also if they do stream, they shut the stream down during baseball games or other programming where their contract requires this. So I'm wondering if anyone has used this. If so, is the included software accessible? For anyone else that wants to investigate, the web page for this product is at the below link, but you can get it for less at amazon.com. Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Many thanks, is it possible to choose a different voice that the one supplied in the box? --- On Sun, 7/11/10, wes smith wes1020002...@gmail.com wrote: From: wes smith wes1020002...@gmail.com Subject: Re: iphone 4g and 3gs To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 16:15 No. It's to big. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:03 AM, M AUSTEN m.aust...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Hello Mark, You can only use the voices that come with the iPhone. However, you do have a choice of three in English: British, Australian and American. Cheers, Anne On 7 Nov 2010, at 17:37, M AUSTEN wrote: Many thanks, is it possible to choose a different voice that the one supplied in the box? --- On Sun, 7/11/10, wes smith wes1020002...@gmail.com wrote: From: wes smith wes1020002...@gmail.com Subject: Re: iphone 4g and 3gs To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 7 November, 2010, 16:15 No. It's to big. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:03 AM, M AUSTEN m.aust...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Thanks Nic. Downloaded the file using the menu in e-mail which said download file behind e-mail link. Great file Kevin thanks. On 7 Nov 2010, at 13:38, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! It may just have been your connection between Dropbox. Patience is usually the key. Also, check right next to the mute button. That displays the current length. When that displays, you know the file has loaded properly. To download the file, you can usually just go to your location bar (Command-L), then hit Option-Return. I'm sure you could do it from the file menu as well, but I always found this quicker to ensure it downloads. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:49 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: Kawal, I had the same problem you had. How did you download the file? js On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear Kevin. I downloaded the file and all is fine. Kawal. On 7 Nov 2010, at 03:06, Kevin Shaw wrote: Greetings again list, Earlier, Mr. Reeves posted some work he'd done in ProTools using Voiceover to the list. I may as well join him in posting some of my work. I wanted to wait until I had my Master's degree in hand and for the band to sign off on the recordings before I posted this. My project examined the accessibility of ProTools with VO on the Mac. As part of the project, I recorded a band and reported on the experience. Here is one of the five recordings I mixed in the early summer. Artist: Heartcore Song Title: Broken Fire Mixed by: Kevin Shaw Produced by:James McGreggor, Kevin Shaw Recorded at:Ryerson University Mastering: Andy Krehm, Silverbirch Productions, Toronto, Canada Enjoy. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9602421/4%20Broken%20Fire.mp3 Kevin Shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5 beta and the call window
Hello. use cmd option left and right arrow to get back to the sources list. Take care. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi folks. I'm trying out the skype 5 beta from various aspects and have come across one that has me quite confused. When in a call, at least my voiceover doesn't see the whole window with contacts list, source list etc and the menu for participants in conference calls etc. Am i not able to do that, or is it just something i've overlooked? If so, what could it be? I've tried the item chooser, but that didn't work, it shows me the items of the call/chat window. Wonder why this is? Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
Yes, ProTools is accessible for most things. Is it worth the buy? That depends on your application. If you're looking to record professionally or semi-professionally, it's the way to go. Take into account the fact that ProTools is industry standard, and knowing the platform gives one an advantage when they are looking for work. If all you are doing is putting podcasts together and experimenting at home with creating music, there may be other accessible tools that can accomplish the tasks required for less money. Garage Band and Logic are making strides and there choice is beginning to emerge for the blind when it comes to audio production. Hope this helps, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Neither one has the Alex voice, it uses the Nuance vocalizer voices. On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:03 AM, M AUSTEN wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
trying drag and drop for raid utility in mac os setup phase
Hi list, I followed every step of the way for drag and drop in the following article http://maccessibility.net/guides/voiceover/drag-and-drop/ This doing in the disk utility at boot with the mac os install dvd. It just doesn't work no matter how i do it. And i do remember that disk utility is a single window so there shouldn't be a problem there. I'm tempted to go straight to single user mode and create the raid set via command prompt but this method above outlined could permanently solder the process in my mind for ulterior use. Any help greatly appreciated Yuma DX® Light has no value without darkness blog: http://www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 Phnom Penh: +85589900095 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Hi Mark, I have my Iphone 3GS set to use Karen who is the Australian voice. The other app that doesn't work whe it is set that way is the weather. It thinks you are in Australia, so if you are in the u.S., this app will not work unless you use the Samantha voice. I personally don't like Samantha and don't care much about the weather app, so I switched to Karen. I love her accent, and use her on my Windows PC. I hope that helps. Have a great day. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Neither one has the Alex voice, it uses the Nuance vocalizer voices. On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:03 AM, M AUSTEN wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Hi Allison, I'm in the US and also prefer to use the Australian voice; however, I have no problems with the default weather app. Can you supply some details about what isn't working for you? I have an iphone 4 with IOS 4.1, but I think we have the same voice engine and default weather app on both models. Thank you, Bryan On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Mark, I have my Iphone 3GS set to use Karen who is the Australian voice. The other app that doesn't work whe it is set that way is the weather. It thinks you are in Australia, so if you are in the u.S., this app will not work unless you use the -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
Hi. I can not hear all sounds, but I can hear, when people are calling, and who it is. I have not installed growl. Best regards Annie. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Sarah, If you can hear all sounds, can you please give us an overview of your settings, and a recording of the alerts doing what they are supposed to do? I ask because I find it strangely peculiar that mostly everyone hear seems to have issues with the alerts, and two people are reporting differently. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I can hear all sounds actually and I believe it says who is calling. I cannot so far reproduce that. S On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
Really? I have no issues wiht skype 5 beta, Ok a few but nothing to do with sounds or incoming calls. Hmm odd? Take care. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! That's weird, because I get You have an incoming call from contact, even though it's set properly. I get those, too, but I'm not sure why it doesn't tell me who. I'm talking about the other alerts though. There is a lot more than those few. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. I can not hear all sounds, but I can hear, when people are calling, and who it is. I have not installed growl. Best regards Annie. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Sarah, If you can hear all sounds, can you please give us an overview of your settings, and a recording of the alerts doing what they are supposed to do? I ask because I find it strangely peculiar that mostly everyone hear seems to have issues with the alerts, and two people are reporting differently. Regards, Nic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 7, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I can hear all sounds actually and I believe it says who is calling. I cannot so far reproduce that. S On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Project
can we get pt version 9 as of now and how is VO as far as with this version any thoughts On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Yes, ProTools is accessible for most things. Is it worth the buy? That depends on your application. If you're looking to record professionally or semi-professionally, it's the way to go. Take into account the fact that ProTools is industry standard, and knowing the platform gives one an advantage when they are looking for work. If all you are doing is putting podcasts together and experimenting at home with creating music, there may be other accessible tools that can accomplish the tasks required for less money. Garage Band and Logic are making strides and there choice is beginning to emerge for the blind when it comes to audio production. Hope this helps, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Hi Bryan and all, I have Karen on now and the weather app thinks I'm I'n Australia. Even when I changed the region to US. it still thinks w are I'n Australia. It's no hat big of a deal but can this be fixed? Thank you for all your assistance I really appreciate it. Have a great day Senty. Happilly, Allison from my iPhone On 07/11/2010, at 5:03 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think she is refiring the date. it reads wrong. For example my phoen thinks mail was updated jan 11 of a few years later. lol! On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Allison, I'm in the US and also prefer to use the Australian voice; however, I have no problems with the default weather app. Can you supply some details about what isn't working for you? I have an iphone 4 with IOS 4.1, but I think we have the same voice engine and default weather app on both models. Thank you, Bryan On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Mark, I have my Iphone 3GS set to use Karen who is the Australian voice. The other app that doesn't work whe it is set that way is the weather. It thinks you are in Australia, so if you are in the u.S., this app will not work unless you use the -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Huh? that's very odd. I have no issues with that. did you change your thing in the app itself? On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Bryan and all, I have Karen on now and the weather app thinks I'm I'n Australia. Even when I changed the region to US. it still thinks w are I'n Australia. It's no hat big of a deal but can this be fixed? Thank you for all your assistance I really appreciate it. Have a great day Senty. Happilly, Allison from my iPhone On 07/11/2010, at 5:03 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think she is refiring the date. it reads wrong. For example my phoen thinks mail was updated jan 11 of a few years later. lol! On Nov 7, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Allison, I'm in the US and also prefer to use the Australian voice; however, I have no problems with the default weather app. Can you supply some details about what isn't working for you? I have an iphone 4 with IOS 4.1, but I think we have the same voice engine and default weather app on both models. Thank you, Bryan On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Mark, I have my Iphone 3GS set to use Karen who is the Australian voice. The other app that doesn't work whe it is set that way is the weather. It thinks you are in Australia, so if you are in the u.S., this app will not work unless you use the -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
accessibility of MacBook Air
I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
No you cannot, but since I am an English speaker who lives in the US, I found that I really like the australian voice much better. The US and UK voices are very gravelly. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:15 AM, wes smith wrote: No. It's to big. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:03 AM, M AUSTEN m.aust...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello, I'm thinking about getting one of the new iPhones. Does anyone know if you can use the voice of Alex on either the iPhone 3gs or 4g? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Setting up the weather app [was Re: iphone 4g and 3gs]
Hi Allison and Others, I also use the Australian voice (Karen) on my iPhone, although I'm in the U.S. The weather app reports for whatever location you set, regardless of the voice you use or the region format that you chose in Settings General International Region Format. You'll have to add your city (and optionally delete the ones that are in the app, if you don't want to hear those weather reports). To add the city or cities of your choice for weather reporting: 1. Double tap the Edit Cities button in the bottom right corner of your screen. 2. You'll be on a screen called Weather with focus on the Add button in the top left corner. If you flick right or do a two finger flick down Read All gesture you'll hear a list of city locations currently selected for your weather app. One of these will be Cupertino in California, headquarters of Apple. If you want to delete any of the existing entries, just double tap the button to the left of the listed city you want to remove. For example, VoiceOver will say Delete Cupertino, switch button off, double tap to toggle setting before the listing for the first item, Cupertino. If you double tap the switch button, a Delete button will appear to the right of the entry and receive focus, and VoiceOver will say, Confirm deletion for Cupertino. If you double tap that button (or anywhere on the screen, since that button has focus), the entry for Cupertino will be deleted. 3. To add your city, you want to double tap the Add button in the top left corner. When you do, you'll be in a text box, and be prompted to Type a city, state, or zip code. 4. Type in a zip code. If you move your finger down from the search box, you'll find a suggested city match. Double tap it and that city will be added to the end of the list of cities when you are returned to the Weather screen. If you want to rearrange the order in which cities are displayed, touch or flick right to the right side of the screen beside a city entry. You'll hear VoiceOver say Reorder name of city button, draggable, double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange. 5. If you want to move your city to the top of the list, use the double tap and hold pass through gesture on the reordering button. (Again, you can execute the pass through gesture anywhere on the screen, if you first touched or flicked to that button so that it has focus.) Keep your finger against the screen until you hear the burbling sound of the pass through gesture, then move your finger up to place the city in the position you want before lifting your finger from the screen. You'll hear VoiceOver update the position as you shift your finger position (e.g. moved above Cupertino). You can keep shifting cities until you get them ordered as you like. 6. You can also change your selection to report in either degrees Fahrenheit or degrees Celsius by double tapping one of the two buttons at the bottom of the Weather screen. 7. When you've finished selecting and ordering the cities for which you want weather reports, double tap the Done button in the top right corner of the screen. You'll be taken back to the weather page for your cities. 8. If you have more than one city selected for weather reports, use a three finger flick right or left to scroll between the entries. VoiceOver will say, Showing city 1 of 3, Showing city 2 of 3, etc. or however many cities you have configured. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Bryan and all, I have Karen on now and the weather app thinks I'm I'n Australia. Even when I changed the region to US. it still thinks w are I'n Australia. It's no hat big of a deal but can this be fixed? Thank you for all your assistance I really appreciate it. Have a great day Senty. Happilly, Allison from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
lol I disagree with that statement of $1300 you can have a netbook with free NVDA works just fine for accessibility although I use a mac mainly windows I use nva and nothing else screw jfw!! On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
Not hearing any sounds when people come online, or go offline, even though I have those set. I've got the speak text checkbox also checked for both of those events, and am getting no spoken notifications either for contacts coming online, or going off. On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting up the weather app [was Re: iphone 4g and 3gs]
Esther, As usual, your directions are wonderful. I just got a replacement iPhone 4, my first one just died one day but I have Apple Care thankfully. Anyway, I'm now finding that the 3 finger flick left or right is hardly working very well. I'm going to keep experimenting to see if I can get this to work again in the weather app. I'm only noticing it in weather; 'tis an odd one indeed! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Allison and Others, I also use the Australian voice (Karen) on my iPhone, although I'm in the U.S. The weather app reports for whatever location you set, regardless of the voice you use or the region format that you chose in Settings General International Region Format. You'll have to add your city (and optionally delete the ones that are in the app, if you don't want to hear those weather reports). To add the city or cities of your choice for weather reporting: 1. Double tap the Edit Cities button in the bottom right corner of your screen. 2. You'll be on a screen called Weather with focus on the Add button in the top left corner. If you flick right or do a two finger flick down Read All gesture you'll hear a list of city locations currently selected for your weather app. One of these will be Cupertino in California, headquarters of Apple. If you want to delete any of the existing entries, just double tap the button to the left of the listed city you want to remove. For example, VoiceOver will say Delete Cupertino, switch button off, double tap to toggle setting before the listing for the first item, Cupertino. If you double tap the switch button, a Delete button will appear to the right of the entry and receive focus, and VoiceOver will say, Confirm deletion for Cupertino. If you double tap that button (or anywhere on the screen, since that button has focus), the entry for Cupertino will be deleted. 3. To add your city, you want to double tap the Add button in the top left corner. When you do, you'll be in a text box, and be prompted to Type a city, state, or zip code. 4. Type in a zip code. If you move your finger down from the search box, you'll find a suggested city match. Double tap it and that city will be added to the end of the list of cities when you are returned to the Weather screen. If you want to rearrange the order in which cities are displayed, touch or flick right to the right side of the screen beside a city entry. You'll hear VoiceOver say Reorder name of city button, draggable, double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange. 5. If you want to move your city to the top of the list, use the double tap and hold pass through gesture on the reordering button. (Again, you can execute the pass through gesture anywhere on the screen, if you first touched or flicked to that button so that it has focus.) Keep your finger against the screen until you hear the burbling sound of the pass through gesture, then move your finger up to place the city in the position you want before lifting your finger from the screen. You'll hear VoiceOver update the position as you shift your finger position (e.g. moved above Cupertino). You can keep shifting cities until you get them ordered as you like. 6. You can also change your selection to report in either degrees Fahrenheit or degrees Celsius by double tapping one of the two buttons at the bottom of the Weather screen. 7. When you've finished selecting and ordering the cities for which you want weather reports, double tap the Done button in the top right corner of the screen. You'll be taken back to the weather page for your cities. 8. If you have more than one city selected for weather reports, use a three finger flick right or left to scroll between the entries. VoiceOver will say, Showing city 1 of 3, Showing city 2 of 3, etc. or however many cities you have configured. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 7, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi Bryan and all, I have Karen on now and the weather app thinks I'm I'n Australia. Even when I changed the region to US. it still thinks w are I'n Australia. It's no hat big of a deal but can this be fixed? Thank you for all your assistance I really appreciate it. Have a great day Senty. Happilly, Allison from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
for me personally, I would love to have an 11 inch computer macbook or airbook. my first macbook was a 12 inch g-4 and i hate paying for monotor space and weight I'm never gonna use. lol take care, max On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Hi, I'm so jealous, I'm getting a macbook air after Christmas, but I hope to see one way before then. Hope you get the most out of your macbook air. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Oh yeah forgot about tht little point. I should not have as I do use that other platform. lol! There goes my muddled brain. Hmm maybe the next time I go to the apple store I might try me one out. On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol! S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Absolutely, and even if you already have a screen reader, some require a license for each PC, thankfully Window-Eyes does not, but you still have to pay to keep your screen reader updated in many instances, it's called your SMA. I'm not dissing windows, or windows screen readers, and I am still an ardent Window-Eyes user; god knows I still do a lot of my major writing work in Windows, but there is really a lot to be said for getting a full-up machine, screen reader included with no SMA obligations, all for one price. Marlaina work On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype 5
Ok maybe I'm not getting those eather but I'll hve to test those as I have that shut off. Will post back if I notice anything. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Not hearing any sounds when people come online, or go offline, even though I have those set. I've got the speak text checkbox also checked for both of those events, and am getting no spoken notifications either for contacts coming online, or going off. On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other than the one that rings when I have a call. Also, when that call does come in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact. I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
That's true. I might go to the apple store on black friday as I need to go there anyways to maybe pick up some stuff that might be on sale? *wink wink* but I migh ttake a look at th eair and try and lift one, to see how heavy it is, if they let me. lol! On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Absolutely, and even if you already have a screen reader, some require a license for each PC, thankfully Window-Eyes does not, but you still have to pay to keep your screen reader updated in many instances, it's called your SMA. I'm not dissing windows, or windows screen readers, and I am still an ardent Window-Eyes user; god knows I still do a lot of my major writing work in Windows, but there is really a lot to be said for getting a full-up machine, screen reader included with no SMA obligations, all for one price. Marlaina work On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting up the weather app [was Re: iphone 4g and 3gs]
Hi Marlaina, I always feel as though I should write the 3 finger flick instructions as 3 finger swipe, because you need to make sure that this is a deliberate gesture, with your fingers well separated, and your fingers traveling in a horizontal direction to the right or left for at least a minimal time so that the device registers the gesture correctly. When I first got my iPod Touch, I initially had a little difficulty getting this gesture to work reproducibly, and ended up rotating my iPod Touch 90 degrees to landscape mode (don't laugh!) and doing a 3 finger swipe down to make sure I was scrolling. Then I rotated the iPod Touch back to portrait mode to do the same gesture and made sure that I was swiping horizontally. It's now second nature to keep my fingers far enough apart to register as a sideways scroll, and to move them in the right direction. I guess the other place you might notice the problem with scrolling is moving between different pages of apps on your iPhone. I enjoyed reading your statements about the MacBook Air. Enjoy it! Cheers, Esther On Nov 7, 2010, at 14:55, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Esther, As usual, your directions are wonderful. I just got a replacement iPhone 4, my first one just died one day but I have Apple Care thankfully. Anyway, I'm now finding that the 3 finger flick left or right is hardly working very well. I'm going to keep experimenting to see if I can get this to work again in the weather app. I'm only noticing it in weather; 'tis an odd one indeed! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Allison and Others, I also use the Australian voice (Karen) on my iPhone, although I'm in the U.S. The weather app reports for whatever location you set, regardless of the voice you use or the region format that you chose in Settings General International Region Format. You'll have to add your city (and optionally delete the ones that are in the app, if you don't want to hear those weather reports). To add the city or cities of your choice for weather reporting: 1. Double tap the Edit Cities button in the bottom right corner of your screen. 2. You'll be on a screen called Weather with focus on the Add button in the top left corner. If you flick right or do a two finger flick down Read All gesture you'll hear a list of city locations currently selected for your weather app. One of these will be Cupertino in California, headquarters of Apple. If you want to delete any of the existing entries, just double tap the button to the left of the listed city you want to remove. For example, VoiceOver will say Delete Cupertino, switch button off, double tap to toggle setting before the listing for the first item, Cupertino. If you double tap the switch button, a Delete button will appear to the right of the entry and receive focus, and VoiceOver will say, Confirm deletion for Cupertino. If you double tap that button (or anywhere on the screen, since that button has focus), the entry for Cupertino will be deleted. 3. To add your city, you want to double tap the Add button in the top left corner. When you do, you'll be in a text box, and be prompted to Type a city, state, or zip code. 4. Type in a zip code. If you move your finger down from the search box, you'll find a suggested city match. Double tap it and that city will be added to the end of the list of cities when you are returned to the Weather screen. If you want to rearrange the order in which cities are displayed, touch or flick right to the right side of the screen beside a city entry. You'll hear VoiceOver say Reorder name of city button, draggable, double tap and hold, wait for the sound, then drag to rearrange. 5. If you want to move your city to the top of the list, use the double tap and hold pass through gesture on the reordering button. (Again, you can execute the pass through gesture anywhere on the screen, if you first touched or flicked to that button so that it has focus.) Keep your finger against the screen until you hear the burbling sound of the pass through gesture, then move your finger up to place the city in the position you want before lifting your finger from the screen. You'll hear VoiceOver update the position as you shift your finger position (e.g. moved above Cupertino). You can keep shifting cities until you get them ordered as you like. 6. You can also change your selection to report in either degrees Fahrenheit or degrees Celsius by double tapping one of the two buttons at the bottom of the Weather screen. 7. When you've finished selecting and ordering the cities for which you want weather reports, double tap the Done button in the top right corner of the screen. You'll be taken back to the weather page for your cities. 8. If you have more than one city selected for weather reports, use a three finger flick right or left to scroll
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
and how much space does it come with. I guess I could look it up but I'm feeling quite lazy today. so far I am impressed. I am so sorry all for my rant. On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me. It makes me laugh every time I use it. I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he Air, but it is so small it's not worth being upset about. I am a very very fast typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my flying fingers because when I really get going, I see words with missing letters even though I know I hae typed them. Ah, see the word have which I just typed, is h a e but I did hit the v. So, I will either do a lot of editing, or slow down a tad. But, I have not even had this for a week, so perhaps I'll get use to it in time. Aside from that, this thing is wonderful and oh yah, I have had a netbook with all the attendant windows issues, smile. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol! S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Ryan Mann
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on a USB flash drive instead of DVD? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
think but not sure I read that the new air came with a flash drive version, but not certain if they had the plans to extend it to other places or not... On 2010-11-07, at 8:39 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on a USB flash drive instead of DVD? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
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The basic 11 incher comes with 64 gb disk and 2 gb ram. I upgraded to 4 gb and 128 gb disk. I call it my fat air! LOL! On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: and how much space does it come with. I guess I could look it up but I'm feeling quite lazy today. so far I am impressed. I am so sorry all for my rant. On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I so love how quickly my Air powers up for me. It makes me laugh every time I use it. I wil tell you one small thing I do not like about he Air, but it is so small it's not worth being upset about. I am a very very fast typist and the keyboard appears to be less sensitive to my flying fingers because when I really get going, I see words with missing letters even though I know I hae typed them. Ah, see the word have which I just typed, is h a e but I did hit the v. So, I will either do a lot of editing, or slow down a tad. But, I have not even had this for a week, so perhaps I'll get use to it in time. Aside from that, this thing is wonderful and oh yah, I have had a netbook with all the attendant windows issues, smile. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol! S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
You just do it through iTunes or under apple, you look for update software or something like that. You can also link the Air to other machines with a DVD or CD player, etc. It's no problem at all. On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Marlaina, Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Well, the commercial on tv said otherwise. It compares the macair to the netbook as the newer smarter and lighter netbook! Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Mary, I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb memory. Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you get what you pay for. So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I can get the most I can for what I want. I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough. Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel? I just cannot say enough about this Air! but just as in the windows world a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone. However, it surely is for me. I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Marlaina, Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Nope. For a couple reasons: 1) Its default shutdown is just a mega huge standby at exceedingly low power, so it doesn't have to start from scratch, and 2) Solid state flash drive is much faster than a mechanical hard drive. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol! S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
and if you wanted to upgrade to lion would you have to buy the usb drive upgrade or what. curious. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
but how would you restore from a usb drive?I thought you could only run voice over from the cd or from a cd and install that way? S On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: think but not sure I read that the new air came with a flash drive version, but not certain if they had the plans to extend it to other places or not... On 2010-11-07, at 8:39 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on a USB flash drive instead of DVD? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Oh yeah forgot about the SS drives that would make sence. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Nope. For a couple reasons: 1) Its default shutdown is just a mega huge standby at exceedingly low power, so it doesn't have to start from scratch, and 2) Solid state flash drive is much faster than a mechanical hard drive. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok you bring up a good point but given time and program will not the macbook air boot up in about a minute just like my pro? lol! S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple *never* said that the Air was anything like a netbook. In fact, Apple's doing its level best to distance itself from the whole netbook thing. Of course, one could argue that it's a similar form factor and size, and a rose by any other name, etc. etc., but there are a couple of key differences: 1) They refused to compromise on the keyboard size, so the Air has a full sized keyboard for typing. I think someone said that function keys are a bit reduced, though. 2) The Air isn't using anything like the mobile Atom processor. It's using a standard issue Core2 Duo, admittedly one at a lower clock speed than the newest ones, but nonetheless, it's a full dual core processor, not one optimized for low power consumption with processing power sacrificed. 3) No netbook I've ever seen claims instant, or even near instant, powerup. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Apple is declaring the CDROM/DVD dead, or at least dying, very like it did with the floppy drive back when the iMac first came out. Remember that? Remember how we all laughed at it and thought, Oh, no, the floppy drive. Gotta have one, it's not going anywhere. Apple was ahead of the curve, and I'd like that crow with extra hot sauce please. No, the OS will be shipped on a thumb drive, of course. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
This surprises me, especially if it's an Apple commercial and not a commercial from a third party. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:04 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote: Well, the commercial on tv said otherwise. It compares the macair to the netbook as the newer smarter and lighter netbook! Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
I find that very odd. 'd hope those drives would be protected from accidental erasure. amazing stuff. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple is declaring the CDROM/DVD dead, or at least dying, very like it did with the floppy drive back when the iMac first came out. Remember that? Remember how we all laughed at it and thought, Oh, no, the floppy drive. Gotta have one, it's not going anywhere. Apple was ahead of the curve, and I'd like that crow with extra hot sauce please. No, the OS will be shipped on a thumb drive, of course. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Of course not. You can run from an external hard drive, boot from it even, and have it as your main drive if you like. I've booted from a full carbon copy cloner - made backup of my system, it really isn't at all difficult. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: but how would you restore from a usb drive?I thought you could only run voice over from the cd or from a cd and install that way? S On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: think but not sure I read that the new air came with a flash drive version, but not certain if they had the plans to extend it to other places or not... On 2010-11-07, at 8:39 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on a USB flash drive instead of DVD? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
lol. I'm still a beginner when it comes to that then. We can probably discuss that one later. Talke care. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Of course not. You can run from an external hard drive, boot from it even, and have it as your main drive if you like. I've booted from a full carbon copy cloner - made backup of my system, it really isn't at all difficult. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: but how would you restore from a usb drive?I thought you could only run voice over from the cd or from a cd and install that way? S On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: think but not sure I read that the new air came with a flash drive version, but not certain if they had the plans to extend it to other places or not... On 2010-11-07, at 8:39 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: So when the next OS after Snow Leopard comes out, you could ask for the OS on a USB flash drive instead of DVD? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: comes with a usb drive with the os on it for restore. On 2010-11-07, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and knowledge. I have a few situations using apple mail I'd love to fix. Here goes. 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my mail is downloaded. Please tell me I can turn that off! 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now. How do I close it and be returned to my inbox list of messages? Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way! 4. I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete it. This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom the next message was sent or its subject. Can I make that stop? 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, but I can't seem to find it. I've done all sorts of itterations of turning long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, and the list goes on! It just escapes me! 6. I know what the attachment is and decide to save it. I go to file and save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't read the name of the file. Is there a way to hear that? Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic. However, I would be so grateful for any insight people can give me. Marlaina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
for anyone using box car how do I sign up
Ok all. I tried to sign up with box car but for some reason I cannot. I enter my email and my passfraze and confirm but there is no save button. How do those of you who use box car sign up? Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org face book: facebook.com/marrie youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Yep I was surprised while I was watching the saints game to see this as well! Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for anyone using box car how do I sign up
What is Box car please? On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok all. I tried to sign up with box car but for some reason I cannot. I enter my email and my passfraze and confirm but there is no save button. How do those of you who use box car sign up? Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org face book: facebook.com/marrie youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Yes, but I think they are talking to windows users whom, if apple said this wasn't a netbook, would run out and buy a tosheba, smile! I know rom having done marketing, ya gotta go to where the mind of the customer lives then gently bring them along with you to a better place. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:28 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote: Yep I was surprised while I was watching the saints game to see this as well! Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for anyone using box car how do I sign up
Box car is an app that will push email nd twitter and more notifications to you all at once on IOS4. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: What is Box car please? On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok all. I tried to sign up with box car but for some reason I cannot. I enter my email and my passfraze and confirm but there is no save button. How do those of you who use box car sign up? Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org face book: facebook.com/marrie youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Hello. I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this $300 computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader and you are good to go. Nektarios. On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Hi, Yeah, but Windows, at least to me, there's so much stuff to deal with there, virus scans, slowness of a Windows PC, shall I go on. I guess I'm more partial to macs, but to each their own. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: Hello. I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this $300 computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader and you are good to go. Nektarios. On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
accessible games
Hi, Is there an accessible version of either Crazy Eights or Life for the Mac? Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
that's great; there should always be choices. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote: Hello. I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this $300 computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader and you are good to go. Nektarios. On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Itunes strange behaviour.
Hi guys. I m having some problems with Itunes and podcasts. Let's say I play a few podcasts and then delete them. Next time Itunes checks for new episodes, it downloads them again. In other words, something is wrong I think with the database that keeps track of the podcasts. Any suggestions? Nektarios. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
When I vo down arrow, I am put back into your message. I'll keep trying. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
This is interesting; if I let vo read it to me, it reads the to field but I cannot vo down or vo arrow there at all. Surely I am doing something incorrectly! On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Marlaina, When in the header after hitting command shift h to access long headers, interact, then you can arrow down and you will find the to field. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Yes, with something like that, it's hard to think why anyone would spend so much more on the blindness note takers, they cost more and do less. On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
try vo shift down arrow. this will put you into interact with text mode. from there, all the headers will be available. I can find the reply-to headers and the from headers going this far, but vo shift M doesn't open an options menu for me. so I am not sure how to add a new address to the address book this way. since I have the mouse locked to the vo cursor, I can right mouse click on the item and the menu appears. after I am done, I vo shift up arrow to leave text interactive mode. -Eric On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: This is interesting; if I let vo read it to me, it reads the to field but I cannot vo down or vo arrow there at all. Surely I am doing something incorrectly! On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
You can use an external DVD drive, they're not that expensive. Once you have one of those, it's done the same way, and it comes with a USB flash drive with the current operating system. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Did you interact with the header field then try and vo down arrow? On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: This is interesting; if I let vo read it to me, it reads the to field but I cannot vo down or vo arrow there at all. Surely I am doing something incorrectly! On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? a: hit cmd shift h to show long headers and vo left to the headers list. Now go to the too field and focus on the address Now hit vo shift space on the address. Take care. S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Ok once yu get to the too field do a vo shift space and it should click the mouse. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mary, Ok when I do that, it has me interacting with the text of your address, subject line, date, time and the macvisionaries address but when I do vo space once I vo right arrowed to the macvisionaries address it beeps at me because, I think, I'm interacting with the text of these fields but not the actual fields? Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Marlaina, When in the header after hitting command shift h to access long headers, interact, then you can arrow down and you will find the to field. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Out of the 2, I think I would choose the macbook air, for lots of writing, it would be a better choice. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Marlaina, Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Mary, I totally agree with you. I will never give up my Apex; when I want braille, I gotta have braille. When I am calling the roster of all ACB affiliates at convention and being given delegate names on the fly, I gotta be fast and furious. Also, when delegates change, I have to be quick about making the change or I'd hold up the entire convention. It's about what is going to work the most effectively for the situation I'm confronting. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I can think of at least two reasons why somebody would want a blindness notetaker rather than a Macbook Air. You like to write using a braille keyboard and you don't want to mess with two devices, e.g. the Air and a display. You want gps, which you can't get with a Macbook Air. and number 3, the blindness notetaker such as the Apex voicenote or voicesense is still smaller and has better battery life than the Air. Oh, and reading books from blindness-oriented places like bookshare or RFBD is less of a hassle with a notetaker. Surely, as somebody who paid a premium for an unlicked IPhone, you will admit that some decisions are not made based on strictly dollars and cents basis. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Ok Marlaina. Turn on long headers with command shift h. Press enter on the message you want to read while in the messages table. Vo left to get to the headers. Interact. Vo down and you should move from one header field to another, with the to: field appearing after the subject line as memory serves. I am actually not vo arrowing, because I have quicknav on. I love, love love quicknav. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use the shared drive. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mary, I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb memory. Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you get what you pay for. So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I can get the most I can for what I want. I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough. Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel? I just cannot say enough about this Air! but just as in the windows world a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone. However, it surely is for me. I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Marlaina, Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Actually, I turn screen curtain on like I do on my phone. It's just all very cool! On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You may already know this, but, if you turn the brightness down all the way your battery may last even longer, you will need to do this each time, since it won't let you save a screen brightness of zero percent, but, each time you fire up, press either F1 or function F1, depending on if your function keys are set for hardware or software functions until it says brightness 0 percent. On my macbook, I get about 14 hours by doing this. Note that this is different than just using the screen curtain in voiceover, the screen curtain does not compltely turn off the light on the display. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
I wonder then, for 10.7 if they will make it downloadable, or if it will just come on a USB flash drive for everyone? On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Apple is declaring the CDROM/DVD dead, or at least dying, very like it did with the floppy drive back when the iMac first came out. Remember that? Remember how we all laughed at it and thought, Oh, no, the floppy drive. Gotta have one, it's not going anywhere. Apple was ahead of the curve, and I'd like that crow with extra hot sauce please. No, the OS will be shipped on a thumb drive, of course. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: Since you don't have a CD drive, how would you upgrade the operating system? If it was me, I wouldn't want to have to go without whatever new VoiceOver features are in the next cat. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I rarely use a CD drive, other than when at home. So yes, if I needed to use one, it would have to be an external. Also, if you get an 11 inch which is what I have, you will need a card reader; the 13 inchers have that built in but weight almost a pound more. This old blind lady wants lightweight in her dottage, smile! Gotta go and eat some yummy chicken and drink some delicious wine! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Oh nice. I do have a question though. No cd drive so I hear so I'm guessing you use an external? I'm just curious in case I want to save for one at class and leave my mbp at home. or what not. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Yah; I never said it was inexpensive, smile. I sold my iPad to get it. It does for me what I had hoped the iPad would do. but for me, Pages on iPad was really hinky, and sometimes my bt keyboard would just quit or other times the battery would be dead. Pages told me after every character I typed that the word was miss spelled. So if I wrote the word dog, instead of hearing d o g or dog, I'd hear word miss spelled word miss spelled word miss spelled. I even turned off auto correction and still had the same problem. I really wanted something light and reliable for business travel and this Air Book, as I like to call it, is just the thing. The battery lasts me about 6 hours with VO echoing words as I type, and most of that time being typing time not reading time. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
You shouldn't have to press command 1 each time go back to the in box, ah, I wonder if you have the mail boxes showing? Try going to the in box, then press command shift m, and see if it says hide mail boxes. Now when you press command w, it should take you back to the in box. There's no way that I know of to prevent voiceover from telling you the rows are being added, but there's a simple work around. Once you start getting your mail, just command tab to another application for a few moments while the mail downloads. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and knowledge. I have a few situations using apple mail I'd love to fix. Here goes. 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my mail is downloaded. Please tell me I can turn that off! 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now. How do I close it and be returned to my inbox list of messages? Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way! 4. I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete it. This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom the next message was sent or its subject. Can I make that stop? 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, but I can't seem to find it. I've done all sorts of itterations of turning long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, and the list goes on! It just escapes me! 6. I know what the attachment is and decide to save it. I go to file and save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't read the name of the file. Is there a way to hear that? Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic. However, I would be so grateful for any insight people can give me. Marlaina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Marlaina, when you hear it say tab, don't vo right. Vo down. You will get to the other fields that way. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover
Actually what I do is just cmd w and close everything until I know I got mail. then I hit cmd 1 to go to my inbox. Take care. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You shouldn't have to press command 1 each time go back to the in box, ah, I wonder if you have the mail boxes showing? Try going to the in box, then press command shift m, and see if it says hide mail boxes. Now when you press command w, it should take you back to the in box. There's no way that I know of to prevent voiceover from telling you the rows are being added, but there's a simple work around. Once you start getting your mail, just command tab to another application for a few moments while the mail downloads. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and knowledge. I have a few situations using apple mail I'd love to fix. Here goes. 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my mail is downloaded. Please tell me I can turn that off! 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the mouse and put it on the to field, which was macvisionar...@gmail.com and then he clicked the triangle to the right which brought up a menu o choices which included copy address and add to addressbook. How do I do that using vo? 3. I'm reading a message and decide to keep it, but I don't want to move it; I want to leave it in my inbox for now. How do I close it and be returned to my inbox list of messages? Right now I do cmd-w then cmd-1 to reopen the inbox; I have to believe there is a better way! 4. I've read the message and from within it, I press backspace to delete it. This takes me back to my list of messages in the inbox, but I hear all this verbiage about inbox table one row selected before I hear from whom the next message was sent or its subject. Can I make that stop? 5. I am desperate for help in fining attachments; vo tells me there is one, but I can't seem to find it. I've done all sorts of itterations of turning long headers on, interacting with toolbar, interacting with message text, and the list goes on! It just escapes me! 6. I know what the attachment is and decide to save it. I go to file and save attachment and when the filename dialogue box comes up, it doesn't read the name of the file. Is there a way to hear that? Ok, those are my questions and I know they are many and basic. However, I would be so grateful for any insight people can give me. Marlaina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
