Re: another help issue

2010-12-28 Thread Jude DaShiell

It's called Mercury retrograde.On Mon, 27 Dec 2010, May McDonald wrote:


Ok, now I got the wireless problem fixed some other darn problem has
come up. Just my unlucky day I think.

I haven't received any mail from my gmail account through applemail,
is anyone else having this problem? Also, I just discovered that all
of my folders have disappeared. I'm hoping that applemail and gmail
just aren't getting along at the moment and will decide to work
together again later since it was working this morning. Any ideas?

May

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Re: apple tv and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Thurman
the apple tv is probably looking for the presence of the hdmi connected tv, 
that's my guess anyway. so far apple tv is a no go for me i fit still has 
problems

On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Hi Justin,
 
 I have not noticed any difference in the quality of the audio from Mac to 
 apple tv, as opposed to Mac to airport express. Admittedly, the speakers that 
 are attached to the receiver that has the a tv connection are not the most 
 wonderful speakers in the world, but they're decent. So I think a really 
 notable drop in audio quality would be noticed. That chopping speech problem 
 is still very much with me, though, and I don't guess there is a cure, short 
 of purchasing a different surround receiver, which is definitely out of the 
 question. I also found out that there are times when you must have the tv 
 turned on, or you can't play a stream from netflix. This happened the other 
 night when I was trying to stream a movie that my sighted husband wasn't 
 interested in, so I didn't have the tv on and kept getting an error message 
 about the requirement for a certain type of hdmi capability. I can't remember 
 the letters that followed hdmi. Turning on the tv solved the problem. The 
 whole thing seemed quite strange, since the netflix signal was coming from 
 the net and shouldn't have had anything to do with the presence or not of a 
 tv.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn

2010-12-28 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I ended up connecting my monitor anyway.  Once I get more confident
with VO, I'l disconnect my monitor completely and let you know what
happened.

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Facebook navigationm

2010-12-28 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I just got a new Mac Mini and am working on learning navigation in
Facebook and Huffington Post.  My two biggest problems are:
1.  In FB, I can't click on the button to write a status update.  I
don't want to use FB Mobile if I don't have to.
2.  In Huff Post, after clicking on a link  or header to bring me to
an article, it takes too many VO right arrows to get to the body of an
article.  Any help would  be appreciated.

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Facebook navigationm

2010-12-28 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I just got a new Mac Mini and am working on learning navigation in
Facebook and Huffington Post.  My two biggest problems are:
1.  In FB, I can't click on the button to write a status update.  I
don't want to use FB Mobile if I don't have to.
2.  In Huff Post, after clicking on a link  or header to bring me to
an article, it takes too many VO right arrows to get to the body of an
article.  Any help would  be appreciated.

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very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never before 
happened.

I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to play 
at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the page and 
noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page.  I mean 
they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars are 
doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from say

www.blindcooltech.com

to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When I 
found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next to 
the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this point, 
I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and made some 
major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the mouse method to 
play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I have the anti flash 
extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked 
at the settings I had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start 
playing the video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two 
questions.

1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
this difference in audible.com?

2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to play 
samples using the mouse method?

Thanks.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi ray,

I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used to 
be. 

 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting audible 
samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched to using a 
different flash player  that the extension already knows how to convert. Either 
way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.

On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never before 
happened.

I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to play 
at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the page and 
noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page.  I mean 
they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars are 
doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from say

www.blindcooltech.com

to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When I 
found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next to 
the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this point, 
I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and made some 
major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the mouse method to 
play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I have the anti flash 
extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked 
at the settings I had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start 
playing the video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two 
questions.

1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
this difference in audible.com?

2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to play 
samples using the mouse method?

Thanks.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Thanks Justin,

Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This will 
especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't need to 
struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible samples.  That 
click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than proving its 
worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to buffer but not play 
automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any audible page will start 
playing at the same time.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:

 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched to 
 using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to play 
 at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the page 
 and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page.  I 
 mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars are 
 doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  With 
 this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: Voice chat site

2010-12-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Jim!
Your message was right at the bottom after all the other stuff!
Well I do not know any shortcuts  its a bit lacking in that area!
Unless someone else knows better!But I'm wondering what site are you looking at?
Colin
I'm far too bad for Heaven!
The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

On 27 Dec 2010, at 23:59, Jim Fettgather wrote:

 On 12/27/2010 5:56 PM, May McDonald wrote:
 
 Hey there Colin, can you email me off list and help me out a bit?
 
 It's been a while since I've used the talking community with the Mac and 
 can't remember how to toggle the talk key.
 
 May
 On 2010-12-11, at 5:04 PM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 For anyone who might be interested this site can be accessed by Mac users!
 You do all of it on the Mac side of things!
 You can apply to join at this link
 http://talkingcommunities.com/communities/1017/
 They seem like a nice bunch!
 And was pleased to see a Mac user!
 There first!
 Also do anyone know of any other voice chat sites that work on the Mac side 
 of things?
 All the best Colin
 
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Re: Voice chat site

2010-12-28 Thread May McDonald
Hey Colin, I remembered how to get it to work. Thanks for the site. Ran across 
an old friend last night on there.

May
On 2010-12-28, at 7:09 AM, Colin M wrote:

 Hi Jim!
 Your message was right at the bottom after all the other stuff!
 Well I do not know any shortcuts  its a bit lacking in that area!
 Unless someone else knows better!But I'm wondering what site are you looking 
 at?
 Colin
 I'm far too bad for Heaven!
 The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!
 
 On 27 Dec 2010, at 23:59, Jim Fettgather wrote:
 
 On 12/27/2010 5:56 PM, May McDonald wrote:
 
 Hey there Colin, can you email me off list and help me out a bit?
 
 It's been a while since I've used the talking community with the Mac and 
 can't remember how to toggle the talk key.
 
 May
 On 2010-12-11, at 5:04 PM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 For anyone who might be interested this site can be accessed by Mac users!
 You do all of it on the Mac side of things!
 You can apply to join at this link
 http://talkingcommunities.com/communities/1017/
 They seem like a nice bunch!
 And was pleased to see a Mac user!
 There first!
 Also do anyone know of any other voice chat sites that work on the Mac 
 side of things?
 All the best Colin
 
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 I can get it to work, I can find the talk button, but I would sure be 
 interested in updates or keyboard shortcucts.
 Thanks.
 
 
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RE: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Harrington
I was actually wondering about this as well...I was just going to hook my
HDMI up to my receiver. Then I'm assuming the receiver takes the picture and
puts it on the TV?...
Thanks!!!
Chris

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Subject: Re: apple tv and choppy speech

Hi,

I was curious if you can have hdmi connected to the TV and the optical audio
connection to a receiver. I know hdmi carries audio as well as video and
wonder if there could be any issues with this configuration.

Thanks,
Scott





On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

 the apple tv is probably looking for the presence of the hdmi connected
tv, that's my guess anyway. so far apple tv is a no go for me i fit still
has problems
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
 
 Hi Justin,
 
 I have not noticed any difference in the quality of the audio from Mac to
apple tv, as opposed to Mac to airport express. Admittedly, the speakers
that are attached to the receiver that has the a tv connection are not the
most wonderful speakers in the world, but they're decent. So I think a
really notable drop in audio quality would be noticed. That chopping speech
problem is still very much with me, though, and I don't guess there is a
cure, short of purchasing a different surround receiver, which is definitely
out of the question. I also found out that there are times when you must
have the tv turned on, or you can't play a stream from netflix. This
happened the other night when I was trying to stream a movie that my sighted
husband wasn't interested in, so I didn't have the tv on and kept getting an
error message about the requirement for a certain type of hdmi capability. I
can't remember the letters that followed hdmi. Turning on the tv solved the
problem. The whole thing seemed quite strange, since the netflix signal was
coming from the net and shouldn't have had anything to do with the presence
or not of a tv.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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transferring music into itunes library and then to my iphone

2010-12-28 Thread denise avant
hi all,
i have some music in a folder called my music, i want to transfer a couple of 
folders with music from that folder to the itunes library, then i want to 
transfer those folders onto my iphone. i would imagine i would have to set up a 
playlist in order to have the songs in a folder play the way i want on the 
iphone. does anyone have the steps to do this? thanks.

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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Mary Otten
Regarding having the hdmi and optical cables connected at the same time, the 
manual for our surround receiver specifically says that the hdmi cable only 
carries video not audio, so if you want audio through the surround receiver, 
you have to connect the digital optical cable. Cery annoying, especially as 
this was not a cheap home theater in a box set up, and you'd think they'd have 
the more or less standard set up.

Mary

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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
What?  HDMI cables do in fact carry sound.  
Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Regarding having the hdmi and optical cables connected at the same time, the 
 manual for our surround receiver specifically says that the hdmi cable only 
 carries video not audio, so if you want audio through the surround receiver, 
 you have to connect the digital optical cable. Cery annoying, especially as 
 this was not a cheap home theater in a box set up, and you'd think they'd 
 have the more or less standard set up.
 
 Mary
 
 Mary Otten
 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: Growl, what is it, and how to use it?

2010-12-28 Thread Nick Van Vlaenderen
Thanks for the tips about the speech option. However, I can't find the slider 
to adjust the rate and the default rate is really slow. Does anyone know where 
to find it? It's not where you set the speech option...

Cheers,

Nick
On 25 Dec 2010, at 07:15, Oriol Gómez wrote:

 Yeah there is a rate slidedr I think, in the same place wehre you set
 the speech option.
 
 On 12/25/10, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tips. Now growl is usable.  Is there a way to adjust the rate
 of speech for notifications?
 
 Greg
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 1st, go into VO utilities and under navigation, select mouse cursor moves
 voiceover cursor from the pop up menu.  Now turn trackpad commander off if
 you have it on.  Then press VO M twice to go to the status menus.  Now run
 your finger a long the very top of the trackpad.  You should here things
 announced under your finger like the time, time machine, sound volume,
 etc.  You will run across some that just say button or image.  Press VO F5
 to have VO read whats under the mouse.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Wait where is the status bar?
 I have never seen it even with the trackpad. How do you get to it?
 
 On 12/24/10, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok cool.
 
 I figured it out.  You have to use the trackpad or a mouse to get to the
 dropbox icon in the status bar.  Then from the menu open up the dropbox
 preferences.  Then under general you turn on growl notifications.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 No.
 
 Just make sure Drop Box is running.  However, there is a way to force
 it
 to see Drop Box.  For that, you'll need to look up the question because
 I
 honestly don't recall the method involved.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Oh.
 
 Ok.  I found what you were talking about.  1 more question.  In the
 list
 of applications listed in growl, I don't see dropbox.  Do I have to do
 something special to have growl see dropbox so I configure the growl
 settings for it?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Oriol, Ricardo!
 In the prefs of growl had you changed them to speech!
 Sorry I cannot remember where they are exactly but I know you need to
 change them!
 Then you can also change what growl will do or not do for you!
 Colin
 On 24 Dec 2010, at 10:29, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Gee, it's working fine for me now.  I had to uninstall growl and
 then
 put it back again, just making sure I eliminated any trace of it's
 ever
 having been on my system first.
 
 Now, no prob.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I was having the same experiences with growl.  Thats why I wanted
 to
 get rid of it.  If anyone can give some tips to make this thing
 work,
 please pass it a long. :)
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Growl? Grwol was never accessible for me.  when a notification
 comes
 up voice over just says system dialog but doesnt read it.
 Am i doing something wrong?
 Thanks!
 
 On 12/23/10, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 Growl is a notification system.  Growl enabled programs can use
 it
 to give
 audio and visual notifications when a task is completed or a
 program
 needs
 attention or some such.  You can use it to alert you when files
 are
 placed
 in your drop box, when incoming chat messages arrive or contacts
 sign in or
 out, or any number of other events on your computer.
 
 It's useful or not depending on what you like to do with your
 computer and
 how much feedback you like to get.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-12-23, at 12:35 PM, brandt wrote:
 
 Hi there folks,
 
 Being on the brink of swiching, I am trying to get as much info
 as
 I can.
 
 I have seen growl refered to often, and am wondering, what is
 it,
 what
 make it useful  and how is it used.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brandt Steenkamp
 
 MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com
 
 Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
 
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Re: Playlists questions

2010-12-28 Thread Kevin Shaw
You should be able to manually sync playlists back from a device in iTunes. 
There should be an option for that under the Music tab control

Reordering playlists is easy. Cut, copy and paste commands, along with your 
arrow keys, will reorder songs. Useful for making CDs as well.

Deleting the playlist or songs within the list won't remove them from your 
computer or iPod. This will only remove it from the playlist. Deleting files 
must be done within the Music Library view.

Kevin

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Re: Growl, what is it, and how to use it?

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

You have to go to system preferences/speech.  Then select the text to speech 
tab.  Then you will see the the default speaking rate slider.  I suggest 
putting it up to 100%.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

 Thanks for the tips about the speech option. However, I can't find the slider 
 to adjust the rate and the default rate is really slow. Does anyone know 
 where to find it? It's not where you set the speech option...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Nick
 On 25 Dec 2010, at 07:15, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Yeah there is a rate slidedr I think, in the same place wehre you set
 the speech option.
 
 On 12/25/10, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tips. Now growl is usable.  Is there a way to adjust the rate
 of speech for notifications?
 
 Greg
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 1st, go into VO utilities and under navigation, select mouse cursor moves
 voiceover cursor from the pop up menu.  Now turn trackpad commander off if
 you have it on.  Then press VO M twice to go to the status menus.  Now run
 your finger a long the very top of the trackpad.  You should here things
 announced under your finger like the time, time machine, sound volume,
 etc.  You will run across some that just say button or image.  Press VO F5
 to have VO read whats under the mouse.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Wait where is the status bar?
 I have never seen it even with the trackpad. How do you get to it?
 
 On 12/24/10, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok cool.
 
 I figured it out.  You have to use the trackpad or a mouse to get to the
 dropbox icon in the status bar.  Then from the menu open up the dropbox
 preferences.  Then under general you turn on growl notifications.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 No.
 
 Just make sure Drop Box is running.  However, there is a way to force
 it
 to see Drop Box.  For that, you'll need to look up the question because
 I
 honestly don't recall the method involved.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Oh.
 
 Ok.  I found what you were talking about.  1 more question.  In the
 list
 of applications listed in growl, I don't see dropbox.  Do I have to do
 something special to have growl see dropbox so I configure the growl
 settings for it?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Oriol, Ricardo!
 In the prefs of growl had you changed them to speech!
 Sorry I cannot remember where they are exactly but I know you need to
 change them!
 Then you can also change what growl will do or not do for you!
 Colin
 On 24 Dec 2010, at 10:29, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Gee, it's working fine for me now.  I had to uninstall growl and
 then
 put it back again, just making sure I eliminated any trace of it's
 ever
 having been on my system first.
 
 Now, no prob.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I was having the same experiences with growl.  Thats why I wanted
 to
 get rid of it.  If anyone can give some tips to make this thing
 work,
 please pass it a long. :)
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Growl? Grwol was never accessible for me.  when a notification
 comes
 up voice over just says system dialog but doesnt read it.
 Am i doing something wrong?
 Thanks!
 
 On 12/23/10, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 Growl is a notification system.  Growl enabled programs can use
 it
 to give
 audio and visual notifications when a task is completed or a
 program
 needs
 attention or some such.  You can use it to alert you when files
 are
 placed
 in your drop box, when incoming chat messages arrive or contacts
 sign in or
 out, or any number of other events on your computer.
 
 It's useful or not depending on what you like to do with your
 computer and
 how much feedback you like to get.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-12-23, at 12:35 PM, brandt wrote:
 
 Hi there folks,
 
 Being on the brink of swiching, I am trying to get as much info
 as
 I can.
 
 I have seen growl refered to 

Re: Growl, what is it, and how to use it?

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Actually, you'd need to set this under:

System Preferences/Text to speech tab/default Voice.  
Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

 Thanks for the tips about the speech option. However, I can't find the slider 
 to adjust the rate and the default rate is really slow. Does anyone know 
 where to find it? It's not where you set the speech option...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Nick
 On 25 Dec 2010, at 07:15, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Yeah there is a rate slidedr I think, in the same place wehre you set
 the speech option.
 
 On 12/25/10, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tips. Now growl is usable.  Is there a way to adjust the rate
 of speech for notifications?
 
 Greg
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 1st, go into VO utilities and under navigation, select mouse cursor moves
 voiceover cursor from the pop up menu.  Now turn trackpad commander off if
 you have it on.  Then press VO M twice to go to the status menus.  Now run
 your finger a long the very top of the trackpad.  You should here things
 announced under your finger like the time, time machine, sound volume,
 etc.  You will run across some that just say button or image.  Press VO F5
 to have VO read whats under the mouse.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Wait where is the status bar?
 I have never seen it even with the trackpad. How do you get to it?
 
 On 12/24/10, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok cool.
 
 I figured it out.  You have to use the trackpad or a mouse to get to the
 dropbox icon in the status bar.  Then from the menu open up the dropbox
 preferences.  Then under general you turn on growl notifications.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 No.
 
 Just make sure Drop Box is running.  However, there is a way to force
 it
 to see Drop Box.  For that, you'll need to look up the question because
 I
 honestly don't recall the method involved.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Oh.
 
 Ok.  I found what you were talking about.  1 more question.  In the
 list
 of applications listed in growl, I don't see dropbox.  Do I have to do
 something special to have growl see dropbox so I configure the growl
 settings for it?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Oriol, Ricardo!
 In the prefs of growl had you changed them to speech!
 Sorry I cannot remember where they are exactly but I know you need to
 change them!
 Then you can also change what growl will do or not do for you!
 Colin
 On 24 Dec 2010, at 10:29, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Gee, it's working fine for me now.  I had to uninstall growl and
 then
 put it back again, just making sure I eliminated any trace of it's
 ever
 having been on my system first.
 
 Now, no prob.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I was having the same experiences with growl.  Thats why I wanted
 to
 get rid of it.  If anyone can give some tips to make this thing
 work,
 please pass it a long. :)
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Growl? Grwol was never accessible for me.  when a notification
 comes
 up voice over just says system dialog but doesnt read it.
 Am i doing something wrong?
 Thanks!
 
 On 12/23/10, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 Growl is a notification system.  Growl enabled programs can use
 it
 to give
 audio and visual notifications when a task is completed or a
 program
 needs
 attention or some such.  You can use it to alert you when files
 are
 placed
 in your drop box, when incoming chat messages arrive or contacts
 sign in or
 out, or any number of other events on your computer.
 
 It's useful or not depending on what you like to do with your
 computer and
 how much feedback you like to get.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-12-23, at 12:35 PM, brandt wrote:
 
 Hi there folks,
 
 Being on the brink of swiching, I am trying to get as much info
 as
 I can.
 
 I have seen growl refered to often, and am wondering, what is
 it,
 what
 make it useful  and how is it 

Re: Pairing a Phonak Icom hearing device with a Macbook Pro via Bluetooth?

2010-12-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Well, we're making progress.

I found the pairing button, thank you for describing where it was.  However, 
this is what I get when I hold it down:
Attempting to pair with “00-0f-59-12-2e-c4”.
Then, after a few seconds:

The pairing attempt was unsuccessful. Make sure your device is in range of this 
computer, turned on and “discoverable.” When ready, click Continue to try again.

This was the result of several attempts.  *shrug* No joy, and I don't know what 
to do about that.

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RE: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn

2010-12-28 Thread Rich Ring
If you do not have a display connected, one thing you will notice is that
Safari becomes almost unuseable.  Another symptom is that you won't be able
to play DVDS. 

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I ended up connecting my monitor anyway.  Once I get more confident with VO,
I'l disconnect my monitor completely and let you know what happened.

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Re: Pairing a Phonak Icom hearing device with a Macbook Pro via Bluetooth?

2010-12-28 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Nick:

Success! I did get the Icom to pair with the Macbook Pro.  However, the quality 
of sound via the bluetooth link was quite poor (especially as concerns 
voiceover, which sounded choppy and on the verge of breaking up), and it was 
stubbornly in mono, even when I checked the use as stereo headset, option.  
In fact, I had to reboot to get it to work at all.  There's also a noticeable 
lag, but I'm most distressed by the sounds being in mono.  There are no 
controls listed for it in Sound Preferences.  Any suggestions for making it 
stereo and improving the quality of the sound a bit?
Thanks for all the help you've been so far.


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Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Should this method work to lock the phone in the portrait lay-out?  I tried but 
do not see the button.

Marlaina

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
Donna


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, do 
 a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
 Donna
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Bearfooted Ray:
It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found their 
people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  I'll have to 
check this out.

Carolyn H
On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to play 
 at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the page 
 and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page.  I 
 mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars are 
 doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  With 
 this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Ray and list:
I must confess, I was afraid to dabble in the anything to do with flash, so 
ignored that thread.  Is it actually an update to safari, or another program I 
need to go find?  TIA for filling me in.
Carolyn H 
On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This will 
 especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't need to 
 struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible samples.  
 That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than proving 
 its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to buffer but 
 not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any audible page 
 will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched to 
 using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page. 
  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars 
 are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from 
 say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  
 With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
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Mager problem with mail and my imap gmail.

2010-12-28 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi all,

I have a probllem whare some of mty messages are only retreaving headers and 
not the full message.  How do I fix this as it is getting annoing.

Matthew


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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
landscape mode in the least.

Marlaina
On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:

Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in 
which you are locking the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone 
vertically positioned. The closest equivalent to the aforementioned 
horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active when the phone is being 
used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed to the 
bottom center).

Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
The Ohio State University
553 Morrill Tower
1900 Cannon Drive
Columbus, Ohio 43210
(740) 856-9435


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?

Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
Donna


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, do 
 a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

What version of IOS are you running on your iPhone?


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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
 swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
 landscape mode in the least.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
 
 Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in 
 which you are locking the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone 
 vertically positioned. The closest equivalent to the aforementioned 
 horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active when the phone is 
 being used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed 
 to the bottom center).
 
 Robert Hooper
 hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
 The Ohio State University
 553 Morrill Tower
 1900 Cannon Drive
 Columbus, Ohio 43210
 (740) 856-9435
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?
 
 Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
 Donna
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, 
 do a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first 
 iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
 Donna
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash extension.

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Bearfooted Ray:
 It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found their 
 people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  I'll have 
 to check this out.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page. 
  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars 
 are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from 
 say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  
 With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
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Re: transferring music into itunes library and then to my iphone

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Deneise:
Should be pretty easy transfer.  If the material you want to  bring in isn't on 
your mac, copy the folder(s) to a flash drive and bring that to the Mac.  Now, 
use the copy and paste to put them into your automatically add to iTunes 
folder.  This is located in home, under music-itunes.  If I've confused you, 
you can email me off list and I'll try harder to confuse you more.:)
Take care.  Oh, BTW: Once thos are added, they'll appear in your itunes 
library, and you can make whatever playlist(s) you wan to. They'll go to your 
iPhone the next time you plug it in and sync.
HTH
Carolyn H
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:20 AM, denise avant wrote:

 hi all,
 i have some music in a folder called my music, i want to transfer a couple of 
 folders with music from that folder to the itunes library, then i want to 
 transfer those folders onto my iphone. i would imagine i would have to set up 
 a playlist in order to have the songs in a folder play the way i want on the 
 iphone. does anyone have the steps to do this? thanks.
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Click to flash is an extension to Safari which, of course, also works on Web 
Kit.  To use extensions, you need to inable the developer menu in Safari.  this 
is done through the advanced tab off the preferences menu.


Sincerely, 
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Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Ray and list:
 I must confess, I was afraid to dabble in the anything to do with flash, so 
 ignored that thread.  Is it actually an update to safari, or another program 
 I need to go find?  TIA for filling me in.
 Carolyn H 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than 
 proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to 
 buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any 
 audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  
 When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess 
 what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool 
 bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible 
 have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we no longer 
 need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must 
 hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper 
 name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made 
 for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the video 
 content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Carolyn,

You need to download the click to flash extension for your web browser.  You 
can get it here
https://extensions.apple.com/

Once on the page, open the iTem chooser and type in flash.  Then go the the 
click to flash heading.  Then a little below that is the download link.  Once 
that is done, open safari or webkit and go to preferences.  Then select 
extensions from the toolbar.  Now make sure extensions are enabled.  There will 
also be a list containing the extensions you have installed.  Click to flash 
should be in here.  VO right arrow from the list and interact with the 
extension info group.  In here you will find the setting of the extension you 
selected from the previous list.  Make sure click to flash is on.

hth

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Ray and list:
 I must confess, I was afraid to dabble in the anything to do with flash, so 
 ignored that thread.  Is it actually an update to safari, or another program 
 I need to go find?  TIA for filling me in.
 Carolyn H 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than 
 proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to 
 buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any 
 audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  
 When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess 
 what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool 
 bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible 
 have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we no longer 
 need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must 
 hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper 
 name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made 
 for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the video 
 content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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To Those Who Care About Aurify

2010-12-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Fellow Aurify Players,

I would like to convene a live, free, telephone conference with those of you
who are interested in doing so.  Only so much can be accomplished with
mailing lists.  

So, as a prelude to this, if interested, please send me a contact telephone
number, off-list, to:  mk...@ucla.edu 

Unless you deem it obvious to me as I live in southern California, such as
providing a telephone number that begins with the area code of 714, 213,
310, 818, etc, please let me know in which city, state, province, country
you reside and the best time to call.  Also, indicate if the telephone
number is either a land-line or a cell phone.  

I just want to do some brain storming before I talk to the good folks at
Punk-Pie.  

I hope to hear from all interested parties, soon.  

Thank you.

Mark
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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:50, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 What version of IOS are you running on your iPhone?
 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
 I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
 swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
 landscape mode in the least.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
 
 Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in 
 which you are locking the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone 
 vertically positioned. The closest equivalent to the aforementioned 
 horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active when the phone is 
 being used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed 
 to the bottom center).
 
 Robert Hooper
 hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
 The Ohio State University
 553 Morrill Tower
 1900 Cannon Drive
 Columbus, Ohio 43210
 (740) 856-9435
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?
 
 Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
 Donna
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, 
 do a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first 
 iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi Ricardo.  I am running 


I am running 4.2.1 which iTunes happily tells me is the latest version.

Marlaina

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Hi,

What version of IOS are you running on your iPhone?


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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
 swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
 landscape mode in the least.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
 
 Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in 
 which you are locking the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone 
 vertically positioned. The closest equivalent to the aforementioned 
 horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active when the phone is 
 being used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed 
 to the bottom center).
 
 Robert Hooper
 hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
 The Ohio State University
 553 Morrill Tower
 1900 Cannon Drive
 Columbus, Ohio 43210
 (740) 856-9435
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?
 
 Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
 Donna
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, 
 do a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first 
 iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
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 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
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IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree


Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:

At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader that 
allows me to access the computer.

My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build it.

Am I stuck?

I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am doing 
my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.

Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?

This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke down 
while our I T person is out on holiday.

Oh, yay, Apple!!


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ah ok.

Then it should work.  What exactly is happening when you open the app switcher, 
then do a 3 finger swipe to the right?

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 Hi Ricardo.  I am running 
 
 
 I am running 4.2.1 which iTunes happily tells me is the latest version.
 
 Marlaina
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 What version of IOS are you running on your iPhone?
 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
 
 I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
 swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
 landscape mode in the least.
 
 Marlaina
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
 
 Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in 
 which you are locking the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone 
 vertically positioned. The closest equivalent to the aforementioned 
 horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active when the phone is 
 being used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed 
 to the bottom center).
 
 Robert Hooper
 hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
 The Ohio State University
 553 Morrill Tower
 1900 Cannon Drive
 Columbus, Ohio 43210
 (740) 856-9435
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?
 
 Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
 Donna
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, 
 do a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first 
 iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Jude DaShiell
I'm running ios 4.2.1 current version on an IPhone 3GS.On Tue, 28 Dec 
2010, Cheree wrote:





Sent from my iPhone

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Hi,

What version of IOS are you running on your iPhone?


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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


I want to lock my phone in portrait, but the app switcher then three finger 
swipe right does nothing.  Guess I'll keep trying, :).  I really do not like 
landscape mode in the least.

Marlaina
On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:

Just for future reference (and to avoid possible confusion), the layout in which you are locking 
the phone is portrait--that is, with the phone vertically positioned. The closest 
equivalent to the aforementioned horizontal layout would be landscape, which is active 
when the phone is being used on its side (with the home button to the left or right as opposed to 
the bottom center).

Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
The Ohio State University
553 Morrill Tower
1900 Cannon Drive
Columbus, Ohio 43210
(740) 856-9435


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?

Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it.
Donna


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, do a 
3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first iTem.

hth left

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:


Hi all,

Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to find 
it.
Donna

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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
attractive option.

On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:


 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:

 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.

 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.

 Am I stuck?

 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.

 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?

 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.

 Oh, yay, Apple!!


 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe


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RE: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Robert Hooper
Portrait layout is the only layout in which you can lock the phone--there isn't 
an option to lock the phone in landscape layout. If you press the home button 
of the iPhone twice quickly, you will be placed in the App switcher. Perform a 
three-finger flick right to scroll to page one of the screen. After reaching 
page one, use a single-finger flick left or right until you find the button 
labeled lock orientation changes. If you double-tap this button, the phone 
will always remain in portrait layout. Repeat the above steps to unlock the 
orientation changes--the button will this time be called unlock orientation 
changes. I hope this clarifies the matter.

Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
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1900 Cannon Drive
Columbus, Ohio 43210
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On Behalf Of Marlaina Lieberg
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?

Should this method work to lock the phone in the portrait lay-out?  I tried but 
do not see the button.

Marlaina

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
Donna


Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, do 
 a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
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Re: To Those Who Care About Aurify

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello. I'm gong to be busy this week but you can still use my input in this 
live podcast I did thati is not up on my podcast site yet. the link will be 
live in a few minutes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_zany_touch_and_aurifi.mp3

Good luck.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Fellow Aurify Players,
 
 I would like to convene a live, free, telephone conference with those of you
 who are interested in doing so.  Only so much can be accomplished with
 mailing lists.  
 
 So, as a prelude to this, if interested, please send me a contact telephone
 number, off-list, to:  mk...@ucla.edu 
 
 Unless you deem it obvious to me as I live in southern California, such as
 providing a telephone number that begins with the area code of 714, 213,
 310, 818, etc, please let me know in which city, state, province, country
 you reside and the best time to call.  Also, indicate if the telephone
 number is either a land-line or a cell phone.  
 
 I just want to do some brain storming before I talk to the good folks at
 Punk-Pie.  
 
 I hope to hear from all interested parties, soon.  
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: Mager problem with mail and my imap gmail.

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
I just wait until the full message is downloaded. A lot of us are having 
problems with imap and gmail but so far gmail has not fixed the problems.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:47 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a probllem whare some of mty messages are only retreaving headers and 
 not the full message.  How do I fix this as it is getting annoing.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

The revolution is with the tool, not with the tasks.

Send your good ideas to Apple.  They seem to be the good ideas company.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe



Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:34, Ben Mustill-Rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Colin M
Hi Ricardo!
Thanks for this guide!
I've now got that running!
Colin
I'm far too bad for Heaven!
The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

On 28 Dec 2010, at 18:01, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi Carolyn,
 
 You need to download the click to flash extension for your web browser.  You 
 can get it here
 https://extensions.apple.com/
 
 Once on the page, open the iTem chooser and type in flash.  Then go the the 
 click to flash heading.  Then a little below that is the download link.  Once 
 that is done, open safari or webkit and go to preferences.  Then select 
 extensions from the toolbar.  Now make sure extensions are enabled.  There 
 will also be a list containing the extensions you have installed.  Click to 
 flash should be in here.  VO right arrow from the list and interact with the 
 extension info group.  In here you will find the setting of the extension you 
 selected from the previous list.  Make sure click to flash is on.
 
 hth
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
lol. could make a creapy halloween sample but generaly not a good idea as it 
might scare the living daylights out of you. lol!

S
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This will 
 especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't need to 
 struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible samples.  
 That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than proving 
 its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to buffer but 
 not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any audible page 
 will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched to 
 using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page. 
  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars 
 are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from 
 say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  
 With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
stupid question. How do I update extensions in safari and or webkit? or do they 
update automatically.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash extension.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Bearfooted Ray:
 It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found their 
 people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  I'll have 
 to check this out.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  
 When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess 
 what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool 
 bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible 
 have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we no longer 
 need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must 
 hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper 
 name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made 
 for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the video 
 content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
they update automatically.


Sincerely, 
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
barefootedray

On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 stupid question. How do I update extensions in safari and or webkit? or do 
 they update automatically.
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash extension.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Bearfooted Ray:
 It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found their 
 people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  I'll 
 have to check this out.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
 the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
 closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
 site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
 guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control 
 tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at 
 audible have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we 
 no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I 
 must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the 
 proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I 
 had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the 
 video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
 noticed this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: PDF's on Safari

2010-12-28 Thread Eric Oyen
I use preview.
some pdf's are very accessible. other may just be jpeg's saved in pdf format. 
with those you will need an OCR program to break the text out into usable form.

-Eric

On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:18 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

 Listers,
 
 How do you all handle reading PDF's in Safari? They seem to not be accessible!
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
thanks. tha'ts good to know. I just asked so I'm not startled by any odd alerts 
or what not.

Take care.

s
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 they update automatically.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 stupid question. How do I update extensions in safari and or webkit? or do 
 they update automatically.
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash extension.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Bearfooted Ray:
 It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found 
 their people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  
 I'll have to check this out.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
 the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over 
 the page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element 
 control tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed 
 VO+space on an mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
 closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
 site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
 guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control 
 tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at 
 audible have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we 
 no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, 
 I must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the 
 proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I 
 had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the 
 video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
 noticed this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
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Re: Growl, what is it, and how to use it?

2010-12-28 Thread Greg Aikens
I wasn't able to find it either. 

Greg
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Nick Van Vlaenderen wrote:

 Thanks for the tips about the speech option. However, I can't find the slider 
 to adjust the rate and the default rate is really slow. Does anyone know 
 where to find it? It's not where you set the speech option...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Nick
 On 25 Dec 2010, at 07:15, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Yeah there is a rate slidedr I think, in the same place wehre you set
 the speech option.
 
 On 12/25/10, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the tips. Now growl is usable.  Is there a way to adjust the rate
 of speech for notifications?
 
 Greg
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 1st, go into VO utilities and under navigation, select mouse cursor moves
 voiceover cursor from the pop up menu.  Now turn trackpad commander off if
 you have it on.  Then press VO M twice to go to the status menus.  Now run
 your finger a long the very top of the trackpad.  You should here things
 announced under your finger like the time, time machine, sound volume,
 etc.  You will run across some that just say button or image.  Press VO F5
 to have VO read whats under the mouse.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Wait where is the status bar?
 I have never seen it even with the trackpad. How do you get to it?
 
 On 12/24/10, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok cool.
 
 I figured it out.  You have to use the trackpad or a mouse to get to the
 dropbox icon in the status bar.  Then from the menu open up the dropbox
 preferences.  Then under general you turn on growl notifications.
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 No.
 
 Just make sure Drop Box is running.  However, there is a way to force
 it
 to see Drop Box.  For that, you'll need to look up the question because
 I
 honestly don't recall the method involved.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Oh.
 
 Ok.  I found what you were talking about.  1 more question.  In the
 list
 of applications listed in growl, I don't see dropbox.  Do I have to do
 something special to have growl see dropbox so I configure the growl
 settings for it?
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Colin M wrote:
 
 Hi Oriol, Ricardo!
 In the prefs of growl had you changed them to speech!
 Sorry I cannot remember where they are exactly but I know you need to
 change them!
 Then you can also change what growl will do or not do for you!
 Colin
 On 24 Dec 2010, at 10:29, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Gee, it's working fine for me now.  I had to uninstall growl and
 then
 put it back again, just making sure I eliminated any trace of it's
 ever
 having been on my system first.
 
 Now, no prob.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I was having the same experiences with growl.  Thats why I wanted
 to
 get rid of it.  If anyone can give some tips to make this thing
 work,
 please pass it a long. :)
 
 TIA
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 24, 2010, at 1:07 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:
 
 Growl? Grwol was never accessible for me.  when a notification
 comes
 up voice over just says system dialog but doesnt read it.
 Am i doing something wrong?
 Thanks!
 
 On 12/23/10, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 Growl is a notification system.  Growl enabled programs can use
 it
 to give
 audio and visual notifications when a task is completed or a
 program
 needs
 attention or some such.  You can use it to alert you when files
 are
 placed
 in your drop box, when incoming chat messages arrive or contacts
 sign in or
 out, or any number of other events on your computer.
 
 It's useful or not depending on what you like to do with your
 computer and
 how much feedback you like to get.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
 1-888-255-5194
 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-12-23, at 12:35 PM, brandt wrote:
 
 Hi there folks,
 
 Being on the brink of swiching, I am trying to get as much info
 as
 I can.
 
 I have seen growl refered to often, and am wondering, what is
 it,
 what
 make it useful  and how is it used.
 
 Regards,
 
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subject line! very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread heather kd5cbl
I just wanted to suggest that folks might change the subject please! If 
their topic has changed! Heather
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com


stupid question. How do I update extensions in safari and or webkit? or do 
they update automatically.

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash 
extension.


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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi Bearfooted Ray:
It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found 
their people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them. 
I'll have to check this out.


Carolyn H
On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
before happened.


I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over 
the page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element 
control tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed 
VO+space on an mp3 file from say


www.blindcooltech.com

to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element 
control tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the 
people at audible have heard us and made some major change to their page 
so that we no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a 
qualifier, I must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I 
forgot the proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the 
settings I had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start 
playing the video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two 
questions.


1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
noticed this difference in audible.com?


2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing 
to play samples using the mouse method?


Thanks.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

Skype Name:
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almost happy new year and some advice

2010-12-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi list,

Please have a look at this article :

http://www.macworld.com/article/156738/2010/12/apple_bigger_security_target_in_2011.html?lsrc=rss_main


This is just to put it into people's minds that there is an end to everything, 
but better early than too late 





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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

They only update automatically if you've selected it to do so.

hth

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 they update automatically.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 stupid question. How do I update extensions in safari and or webkit? or do 
 they update automatically.
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 I think it might have been do to an up date to the click to flash extension.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Bearfooted Ray:
 It wouldn't surprise me if Audible did make some changes.  I've found 
 their people to be very responsive whenever I've had dealngs with them.  
 I'll have to check this out.
 
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
 the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over 
 the page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element 
 control tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed 
 VO+space on an mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
 closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
 site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
 guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control 
 tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at 
 audible have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we 
 no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, 
 I must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the 
 proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I 
 had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the 
 video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
 noticed this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: question about garage band

2010-12-28 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Do you have a instrument selected?

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Wayne Pearcy wrote:

 Hi Ricardo and list,
 
 I did try Command-shift-K to open the on-screen keyboard, but when I
 try to type notes, there is no sound.  Any ideas on why this is
 happening?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne
 
 On Dec 27, 12:56 pm, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Press command shift K to bring up the on screen keyboard.  Press it again to 
 close it.
 
 hth
 
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 On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Wayne Pearcy wrote: Hello list,
 
 I am writing with a question about a feature in Garage Band 6.  There is  
 feature in the program that allows the user to enter notes by using the 
 QWERTY keyboard instead of the usual external midi controller.  I, however, 
 have been unsuccessful in getting this feature to work when using Voice 
 Over.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: To Those Who Care About Aurify

2010-12-28 Thread M. Taylor
Great.  Thank you.  May I still please have a contact telephone number for you?

Mark
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Hello. I'm gong to be busy this week but you can still use my input in this 
 live podcast I did thati is not up on my podcast site yet. the link will be 
 live in a few minutes.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_zany_touch_and_aurifi.mp3
 
 Good luck.
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
 Hello Fellow Aurify Players,
 
 I would like to convene a live, free, telephone conference with those of you
 who are interested in doing so.  Only so much can be accomplished with
 mailing lists.  
 
 So, as a prelude to this, if interested, please send me a contact telephone
 number, off-list, to:  mk...@ucla.edu 
 
 Unless you deem it obvious to me as I live in southern California, such as
 providing a telephone number that begins with the area code of 714, 213,
 310, 818, etc, please let me know in which city, state, province, country
 you reside and the best time to call.  Also, indicate if the telephone
 number is either a land-line or a cell phone.  
 
 I just want to do some brain storming before I talk to the good folks at
 Punk-Pie.  
 
 I hope to hear from all interested parties, soon.  
 
 Thank you.
 
 Mark
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 Remember to reply off-list.  
 
 
 
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increasing speech rate

2010-12-28 Thread Jane
When I try to convert text to audio with my work flow, Alex speaks very slowly. 
 I have [[ra 350]] at the top of the document as I usually do, but this time it 
doesn't seem to affect the voice speed at all, even though I have set Alex to 
speak really fast under system preferences.

Any thoughts?

Jane


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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Randy Stegall
What are the settings in the clicktoflash extension to make audible samples 
play?  For the life of me, I can't get it to work as y'all describe.


Randy Stegall
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Sent from my Mac Mini.

On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 lol. could make a creapy halloween sample but generaly not a good idea as it 
 might scare the living daylights out of you. lol!
 
 S
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than 
 proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to 
 buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any 
 audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  
 When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess 
 what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool 
 bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible 
 have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we no longer 
 need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must 
 hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper 
 name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made 
 for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the video 
 content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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3 questions re the music player on the ipod Touch

2010-12-28 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

I'm the mostly happy owner of a new ipod touch, but have three questions about 
the music player.

1.  I can't seem to shake it and get it to shuffle.  Shake to Shuffle is 
checked in settings.  But, I've shaken it until I've practically thrown it, and 
no joy.  Any suggestions?

2.  How on earth does the table index work?  I've opened it and selected a 
letter, but the artists in the selected letter don't show up on the screen.

3.  It looks like you're supposed to be able to edit which buttons show up in 
the player.  I've selected more, then Edit, and the buttons say Draggable, but 
tapping and holding doesn't seem to do anything.  What's the deal?
thanks,
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Re: locking the iPhone screen in horizontal layout?

2010-12-28 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Thank you!  What I didn't see or nobody said, not sure which, is the gesture 
after the three-finger swipe.  It is now locked and lovely.

Marlaina


On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Robert Hooper wrote:

Portrait layout is the only layout in which you can lock the phone--there isn't 
an option to lock the phone in landscape layout. If you press the home button 
of the iPhone twice quickly, you will be placed in the App switcher. Perform a 
three-finger flick right to scroll to page one of the screen. After reaching 
page one, use a single-finger flick left or right until you find the button 
labeled lock orientation changes. If you double-tap this button, the phone 
will always remain in portrait layout. Repeat the above steps to unlock the 
orientation changes--the button will this time be called unlock orientation 
changes. I hope this clarifies the matter.

Robert Hooper
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Subject: Re: locking the iphone screen in horizontal layout?

Should this method work to lock the phone in the portrait lay-out?  I tried but 
do not see the button.

Marlaina

On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Thanks Ricardo. I knew I'd seen it. 
Donna


Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi,
 
 its in the first page of the app switcher.  So when you open the switcher, do 
 a 3 finger swipe right.  The orientation lock button will be The first iTem.
 
 hth left 
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Where is the setting that enables one to do this?  I swear I've seen it a 
 million times, but now that I'm actually looking for it, I can't seem to 
 find it.
 Donna
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I was just on audible and was not able to click the sample button.  In fact, vo 
didn't even say sample if I did vo right but when I reversed and did vo left it 
said sample; a vo space on that word did nothing.  I guess I need that click to 
flash utility?

Marlaina


On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi Carolyn,

You need to download the click to flash extension for your web browser.  You 
can get it here
https://extensions.apple.com/

Once on the page, open the iTem chooser and type in flash.  Then go the the 
click to flash heading.  Then a little below that is the download link.  Once 
that is done, open safari or webkit and go to preferences.  Then select 
extensions from the toolbar.  Now make sure extensions are enabled.  There will 
also be a list containing the extensions you have installed.  Click to flash 
should be in here.  VO right arrow from the list and interact with the 
extension info group.  In here you will find the setting of the extension you 
selected from the previous list.  Make sure click to flash is on.

hth

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On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi Ray and list:
 I must confess, I was afraid to dabble in the anything to do with flash, so 
 ignored that thread.  Is it actually an update to safari, or another program 
 I need to go find?  TIA for filling me in.
 Carolyn H 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than 
 proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to 
 buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any 
 audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  
 When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess 
 what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool 
 bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible 
 have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we no longer 
 need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must 
 hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper 
 name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made 
 for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the video 
 content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
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2010-12-28 Thread Randy Stegall
I figured out what the correct settings are to use with audible.com.


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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Ah Ricardo:
You're my hero today!!!  This stuff is still completely beyond me.  Does this 
mean we can now access flash content that previously we couldn't?

Thanks.
Carolyn
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi Carolyn,
 
 You need to download the click to flash extension for your web browser.  You 
 can get it here
 https://extensions.apple.com/
 
 Once on the page, open the iTem chooser and type in flash.  Then go the the 
 click to flash heading.  Then a little below that is the download link.  Once 
 that is done, open safari or webkit and go to preferences.  Then select 
 extensions from the toolbar.  Now make sure extensions are enabled.  There 
 will also be a list containing the extensions you have installed.  Click to 
 flash should be in here.  VO right arrow from the list and interact with the 
 extension info group.  In here you will find the setting of the extension you 
 selected from the previous list.  Make sure click to flash is on.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Ray and list:
 I must confess, I was afraid to dabble in the anything to do with flash, so 
 ignored that thread.  Is it actually an update to safari, or another program 
 I need to go find?  TIA for filling me in.
 Carolyn H 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more 
 than proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it 
 to buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on 
 any audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they 
 used to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
 the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
 closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
 site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
 guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control 
 tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at 
 audible have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we 
 no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I 
 must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the 
 proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I 
 had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the 
 video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
 noticed this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hey Ben:
Way to rain on someone's parade.  Must be nice to take these things for granted 
so easily.  I don't claim Apple's perfect.  But, wow.  I sure wish I'd had half 
the tech tools we have now when I was in grad school.  Instead, we had to pay, 
beg or steal readers, bribe librarians, and jump through an awful lot of hoops 
just to get things done.  
I will continue to aplaude Apple for what it's doing and defend them against 
those who just want more more more and are never placated.
Sorry, guess my button just got pushed.:)


On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

Ben's comments struck me as having a disconnect with the general blindness 
experience.

If I didn't think almost all of the listers here are blind, I would hazard that 
Ben reacted the way an uninformed sighted person would react who has no idea 
what it means to lose the use of essential access technologies.

Beyond that, in my messages, I seem to vacillate between adding my message in 
front of the sent from my IPhone, and after the sent from my IPhone message.

Any idea why that happens?
I would also love to use the spekk checker feature and don't know how.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2010, at 15:34, Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Ben:
 Way to rain on someone's parade.  Must be nice to take these things for 
 granted so easily.  I don't claim Apple's perfect.  But, wow.  I sure wish 
 I'd had half the tech tools we have now when I was in grad school.  Instead, 
 we had to pay, beg or steal readers, bribe librarians, and jump through an 
 awful lot of hoops just to get things done.  
 I will continue to aplaude Apple for what it's doing and defend them against 
 those who just want more more more and are never placated.
 Sorry, guess my button just got pushed.:)
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: To Those Who Care About Aurify

2010-12-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'm gong to be performing all week this week and I have to prepair for a school 
and a tour that might be happening.

Take care.

S
On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:49 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Great.  Thank you.  May I still please have a contact telephone number for 
 you?
 
 Mark
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello. I'm gong to be busy this week but you can still use my input in this 
 live podcast I did thati is not up on my podcast site yet. the link will be 
 live in a few minutes.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/a_look_at_zany_touch_and_aurifi.mp3
 
 Good luck.
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:05 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
 Hello Fellow Aurify Players,
 
 I would like to convene a live, free, telephone conference with those of you
 who are interested in doing so.  Only so much can be accomplished with
 mailing lists.  
 
 So, as a prelude to this, if interested, please send me a contact telephone
 number, off-list, to:  mk...@ucla.edu 
 
 Unless you deem it obvious to me as I live in southern California, such as
 providing a telephone number that begins with the area code of 714, 213,
 310, 818, etc, please let me know in which city, state, province, country
 you reside and the best time to call.  Also, indicate if the telephone
 number is either a land-line or a cell phone.  
 
 I just want to do some brain storming before I talk to the good folks at
 Punk-Pie.  
 
 I hope to hear from all interested parties, soon.  
 
 Thank you.
 
 Mark
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, it's not that bad.  It has exchange integration, remote whipe, and 
trackable by tools like Casper.  It's definitely improved for the business user 
over the years, definitely a great deal since the pre 3GS days.


On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
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Re: apple tv and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Justin Kauflin
It is possible to connect the HDMI to the television and have the optical audio 
go to the receiver.  I don't know if that would effect the quality of the 
signal though...

 I  actually resolved my sound issue  last night.  I believe that the 
digital to analog converters on my  receiver are not very good, so no matter 
what I ran through the optical, the audio would sound quite compressed.  I 
found that a work around for me was to use a y chord to take audio from the 
line out of the tv and have it go into the auxiliary input of the receiver.  
The sound is noticeably better this way.

Hope this makes sense to someone.  I'm just glad to have good audio in the 
living room.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I was curious if you can have hdmi connected to the TV and the optical audio 
 connection to a receiver. I know hdmi carries audio as well as video and 
 wonder if there could be any issues with this configuration.
 
 Thanks,
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
 the apple tv is probably looking for the presence of the hdmi connected tv, 
 that's my guess anyway. so far apple tv is a no go for me i fit still has 
 problems
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:16 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
 
 Hi Justin,
 
 I have not noticed any difference in the quality of the audio from Mac to 
 apple tv, as opposed to Mac to airport express. Admittedly, the speakers 
 that are attached to the receiver that has the a tv connection are not the 
 most wonderful speakers in the world, but they're decent. So I think a 
 really notable drop in audio quality would be noticed. That chopping speech 
 problem is still very much with me, though, and I don't guess there is a 
 cure, short of purchasing a different surround receiver, which is 
 definitely out of the question. I also found out that there are times when 
 you must have the tv turned on, or you can't play a stream from netflix. 
 This happened the other night when I was trying to stream a movie that my 
 sighted husband wasn't interested in, so I didn't have the tv on and kept 
 getting an error message about the requirement for a certain type of hdmi 
 capability. I can't remember the letters that followed hdmi. Turning on the 
 tv solved the problem. The whole thing seemed quite strange, since the 
 netflix signal was coming from the net and shouldn't have had anything to 
 do with the presence or not of a tv.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn

2010-12-28 Thread Vaughn Bennison
When I set up my mac mini, I had nothing connected, not even a pair of 
headphones.  There was some talk of the previous version needing a display, but 
the latest version doesn't.

Vaughn.
On 28/12/2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 You need to have a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned on, 
 I don't think just connecting a cable will suffice, but not totally positive 
 on that.
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
 
 I just got a brand-new Mac Mini and I've been told that a blind user
 can use a Mac Mini without an actual monitor connected, provided that
 there is a cable connected to the display port.  Is that really true?
 If you've never used the mini before?  Does that work when you first
 fire up the Mac Mini brand new from the store?
 Thanks,
 Kevin, a new Mac owner.
 
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Justin Kauflin
This is great news.  Looks like its finally time for me to get my hands on  the 
click to flash extension.

Justin
On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This will 
 especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't need to 
 struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible samples.  
 That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more than proving 
 its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it to buffer but 
 not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on any audible page 
 will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they used 
 to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched to 
 using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at the 
 page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the page. 
  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control tool bars 
 are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an mp3 file from 
 say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a closer 
 look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the site.  When 
 I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, guess what, next 
 to the word sample, there was an audio element control tool bar.  At this 
 point, I would have to conclude that the people at audible have heard us and 
 made some major change to their page so that we no longer need to use the 
 mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I must hasten to add that I 
 have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the proper name of it for the 
 moment), and, when I looked at the settings I had made for it, I found that 
 it was set to buffer and start playing the video content automatically.  
 With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all noticed 
 this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Justin Kauflin
I think this might be specific to your model of receiver.  HDMI definitely 
carries audio and video.

Justin
On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Regarding having the hdmi and optical cables connected at the same time, the 
 manual for our surround receiver specifically says that the hdmi cable only 
 carries video not audio, so if you want audio through the surround receiver, 
 you have to connect the digital optical cable. Cery annoying, especially as 
 this was not a cheap home theater in a box set up, and you'd think they'd 
 have the more or less standard set up.
 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Cheree:

On Dec 28, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Cheree wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Ben's comments struck me as having a disconnect with the general blindness 
 experience.
 
 If I didn't think almost all of the listers here are blind, I would hazard 
 that BenYou might want to look into that spekk checker indeed.:)  I believe 
 it's in mail preferences, or was that male preferences?:)

The issue of where the message shows relative to the message has to do with 
where your cursor is when you start the message.  If you want, you can set your 
signature to always proceed after your message by default, again in preferences.
HTH
Carolyn H
 reacted the way an uninformed sighted person would react who has no idea what 
 it means to lose the use of essential access technologies.
 
 Beyond that, in my messages, I seem to vacillate between adding my message in 
 front of the sent from my IPhone, and after the sent from my IPhone 
 message.
 
 Any idea why that happens?
 I would also love to use the spekk checker feature and don't know how.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 15:34, Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Ben:
 Way to rain on someone's parade.  Must be nice to take these things for 
 granted so easily.  I don't claim Apple's perfect.  But, wow.  I sure wish 
 I'd had half the tech tools we have now when I was in grad school.  Instead, 
 we had to pay, beg or steal readers, bribe librarians, and jump through an 
 awful lot of hoops just to get things done.  
 I will continue to aplaude Apple for what it's doing and defend them against 
 those who just want more more more and are never placated.
 Sorry, guess my button just got pushed.:)
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the 
 IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: almost happy new year and some advice

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
This is BS.


Macafee has about as much clue and product quality as the burnouts they hire in 
radio shack.


Apple has a Unix underpinning which means if set up correctly virus code won't 
propegate.  Windows is much easier because permissions aren't handled correctly 
among other massive security holes.  Apple uses BSD under the hood which 
doesn't have these issues from the ground up.  Sure there could be holes but 
there will be no where near as many as there are in Microsoft products.  Start 
at the kernel and work your way back.:)

More important though, mind your info sources.  Macafee really is the laughing 
stock of the information security world.

Remember Intel bought them for a very small bit of code they can add to their 
chips.  The rest will probably be spun off to suckers or shut down.

If you're really interested in security products and good opinion check out 
Sourcefire, Juniper Networks or on the software side check out Metasploit.

 
 

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 Hi list,
 
 Please have a look at this article :
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/156738/2010/12/apple_bigger_security_target_in_2011.html?lsrc=rss_main
 
 
 This is just to put it into people's minds that there is an end to 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
He does have some points but they are also a little out of date. Apple IPhones 
used to be very problematic in the enterprise.  That has definitely improved 
however.  We're moving some of our users over and so far they are extremely 
happy.


On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hey Ben:
 Way to rain on someone's parade.  Must be nice to take these things for 
 granted so easily.  I don't claim Apple's perfect.  But, wow.  I sure wish 
 I'd had half the tech tools we have now when I was in grad school.  Instead, 
 we had to pay, beg or steal readers, bribe librarians, and jump through an 
 awful lot of hoops just to get things done.  
 I will continue to aplaude Apple for what it's doing and defend them against 
 those who just want more more more and are never placated.
 Sorry, guess my button just got pushed.:)
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

Thank you.  I will check in Preferences.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2010, at 16:49, Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Cheree:
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Cheree wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Ben's comments struck me as having a disconnect with the general blindness 
 experience.
 
 If I didn't think almost all of the listers here are blind, I would hazard 
 that BenYou might want to look into that spekk checker indeed.:)  I believe 
 it's in mail preferences, or was that male preferences?:)
 
 The issue of where the message shows relative to the message has to do with 
 where your cursor is when you start the message.  If you want, you can set 
 your signature to always proceed after your message by default, again in 
 preferences.
 HTH
 Carolyn H
 reacted the way an uninformed sighted person would react who has no idea 
 what it means to lose the use of essential access technologies.
 
 Beyond that, in my messages, I seem to vacillate between adding my message 
 in front of the sent from my IPhone, and after the sent from my IPhone 
 message.
 
 Any idea why that happens?
 I would also love to use the spekk checker feature and don't know how.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 15:34, Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Ben:
 Way to rain on someone's parade.  Must be nice to take these things for 
 granted so easily.  I don't claim Apple's perfect.  But, wow.  I sure wish 
 I'd had half the tech tools we have now when I was in grad school.  
 Instead, we had to pay, beg or steal readers, bribe librarians, and jump 
 through an awful lot of hoops just to get things done.  
 I will continue to aplaude Apple for what it's doing and defend them 
 against those who just want more more more and are never placated.
 Sorry, guess my button just got pushed.:)
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
 
 I'm glad that the iPhones working out for you, but to be honest,
 searching the internet is hardly revolutionary and from the corporate
 point of view, apple could do lots more to make the iPhone an
 attractive option.
 
 On 28/12/2010, Cheree che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:
 
 
 Sent from my iPhoneCheree Heppe here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the 
 IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn

2010-12-28 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi Vaughn,

I had the same positive experience you mentioned when I first set up my 
mid-2010 Mac Mini, but at some point I started to have the VO issues that other 
folks have mentioned regarding the previous generation of Mini. I then 
connected a monitor using the included HDMI to DVI converter and the problem 
went away. I'm not sure exactly when the VO slowness started. It might have 
been after the 10.6.5 update, but not positive. I'm wondering what might be 
different between your mini and mine. Can you tell me what Mini model you have, 
what keyboard/mouse you're using, what other peripherals you have connected, 
and what OS version you have?

I've got the Mini 2.66 server version running 10.6.5 client, not server. I 
use the Apple USB extended keyboard, bluetooth magic trackpad, a wi-fi 
connection and a Samsung USB DVD multi drive.

Thank you,
Bryan

On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

 When I set up my mac mini, I had nothing connected, not even a pair of 
 headphones.  There was some talk of the previous version needing a display, 
 but the latest version doesn't.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 28/12/2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 
 You need to have a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned 
 on, I don't think just connecting a cable will suffice, but not totally 
 positive on that.
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
 
 I just got a brand-new Mac Mini and I've been told that a blind user
 can use a Mac Mini without an actual monitor connected, provided that
 there is a cable connected to the display port.  Is that really true?
 If you've never used the mini before?  Does that work when you first
 fire up the Mac Mini brand new from the store?
 Thanks,
 Kevin, a new Mac owner.
 
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Re: almost happy new year and some advice

2010-12-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
Yep, i completely agree with all your points, but...

All the arguments you pointed out are the ones i myself point out when 
discussing security with PC owners. The unix base, BSD, posix permissions which 
are better laid out than windows ACLs, the fact that windows was not initially 
made for internet communications whereas macs started that way, and the list 
goes on.

Yet i can't stop myself from thinking there will be a growing interest in 
hacking the mac, just for the sake of figuring the system out. I myself am 
fascinated by what happens under the hood, and reading the handbook which was 
released over 2 years ago. In the simple propagation of information to all 
channels via a singularity, there are myriads of groups which will be capable 
of finding exploits to the systems. It starts with the hackintosh community 
which make custom kexts for PC hardware. If they can go that low on the system, 
it won't be much harder to do it on a MAC, unless you or someone else here 
knows of a chip that levvys all of it.

Check out mac hacker's handbook and all the levels of kernel exploits that can 
be made available, and the growing list of bugs with voice over, for example.

Once again, i prefer caution and informing myself, then prventing spills in my 
network and computers.


But then, i never liked those security burnoffs :) 


I'm just saying this: Better informed and safe than arrogant and sorry :)

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Re: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn

2010-12-28 Thread Yuma Decaux
I have experienced the same issues on my mac mini server. Safari being 
extremely slow, and i thought connecting the HDMI placebo cable would resolve 
it, but alas i might have to find a cheap monitor as this is quite annoying 
though i drop box everything around to install and propagate stuff around.

Maybe mailing accessiblity and reporting this issue again would allow for a 
release that would resolve this?


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Re: almost happy new year and some advice

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
I absolutely agree.

My thought is exploits will happen via services that people enable with out the 
appropriate clue just like you see in the Unix world today.  Someone with an 
improperly patched httpd or BIND, that sort of thing.

Nice to see someone with common interests.  I feel like I need backup at work 
functioning in a Microsoft shop heh.  The Unix Admin and I are always locked in 
this argument with the MS heads.

  


On Dec 28, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

 Yep, i completely agree with all your points, but...
 
 All the arguments you pointed out are the ones i myself point out when 
 discussing security with PC owners. The unix base, BSD, posix permissions 
 which are better laid out than windows ACLs, the fact that windows was not 
 initially made for internet communications whereas macs started that way, and 
 the list goes on.
 
 Yet i can't stop myself from thinking there will be a growing interest in 
 hacking the mac, just for the sake of figuring the system out. I myself am 
 fascinated by what happens under the hood, and reading the handbook which was 
 released over 2 years ago. In the simple propagation of information to all 
 channels via a singularity, there are myriads of groups which will be capable 
 of finding exploits to the systems. It starts with the hackintosh community 
 which make custom kexts for PC hardware. If they can go that low on the 
 system, it won't be much harder to do it on a MAC, unless you or someone else 
 here knows of a chip that levvys all of it.
 
 Check out mac hacker's handbook and all the levels of kernel exploits that 
 can be made available, and the growing list of bugs with voice over, for 
 example.
 
 Once again, i prefer caution and informing myself, then prventing spills in 
 my network and computers.
 
 
 But then, i never liked those security burnoffs :) 
 
 
 I'm just saying this: Better informed and safe than arrogant and sorry :)
 
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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Thurman
what reciever do you have? i have never found a home theater reciever that did 
not take the audio from the hdmi connection, it is however sometimes a menu 
setting that can make the reciever ignore the hdmi audio in favor of another 
source. it has to take the hdmi audio in order to work with multichannel discs 
with most blueray players for example, and audio is part of the hdmi 
specifications and licensing for hdmi 1.2 or better

On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Regarding having the hdmi and optical cables connected at the same time, the 
 manual for our surround receiver specifically says that the hdmi cable only 
 carries video not audio, so if you want audio through the surround receiver, 
 you have to connect the digital optical cable. Cery annoying, especially as 
 this was not a cheap home theater in a box set up, and you'd think they'd 
 have the more or less standard set up.
 
 Mary
 
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Thurman
  of course when is the last time you ever saw a company that has people with a 
brain and common sense? if those companies truly existed we wouldn't be 90+ 
percent unemployed :)   lol   actually what we really need is for blindness 
organizations to do their job and make companies REALLY understand that blind 
does not mean damaged
I'd ask them for a macbook or i mac instead and tell them that you can 
reinstall the os independantly  maybe they will get you one for work  they will 
IF they are smart
On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:12 PM, 
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 Sent from my

  

  here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader 
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am 
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke 
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 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
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Re: almost happy new year and some advice

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Thurman
agreed that joke of a security company along with norton are absolutely useless 
unless you want to trash your winblows crap box. 
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

 This is BS.
 
 
 Macafee has about as much clue and product quality as the burnouts they hire 
 in radio shack.
 
 
 Apple has a Unix underpinning which means if set up correctly virus code 
 won't propegate.  Windows is much easier because permissions aren't handled 
 correctly among other massive security holes.  Apple uses BSD under the hood 
 which doesn't have these issues from the ground up.  Sure there could be 
 holes but there will be no where near as many as there are in Microsoft 
 products.  Start at the kernel and work your way back.:)
 
 More important though, mind your info sources.  Macafee really is the 
 laughing stock of the information security world.
 
 Remember Intel bought them for a very small bit of code they can add to their 
 chips.  The rest will probably be spun off to suckers or shut down.
 
 If you're really interested in security products and good opinion check out 
 Sourcefire, Juniper Networks or on the software side check out Metasploit.
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 Please have a look at this article :
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/156738/2010/12/apple_bigger_security_target_in_2011.html?lsrc=rss_main
 
 
 This is just to put it into people's minds that there is an end to 
 everything, but better early than too late 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 3 questions re the music player on the ipod Touch

2010-12-28 Thread Hypnotic Consulting
2.  How on earth does the table index work?  I've opened it and selected a 
letter, but the artists in the selected letter don't show up on the screen.
This one took me a few tries to get it. Once you tap the index, and swipe 
down to pick a letter. you don't have to do anything else, but right swipe 
in the middle area to look through your artists.

Meaning you don't have to double tap the letter m to go to your m artists.

I'm still working on your third q, I tried it for the first time yesterday 
and didn't have any results.

Jorge

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i-pad vs i-phone?

2010-12-28 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi folks,
I am still a *long* way form getting either one of these things, but am 
curious if the pad offers phone type functions?  I suppose I mean can an 
i-pad serve as your phone as well, or would one require both devices
forgive me if this is a babe in the apple grove sort of question, but as 
expressed, I am not heading this direction for some time, and by then here 
will likely be an entirely new fleet of i-things, lol.

Karen

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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:

Oh!  I never thought of that approach!!

It would have to dual boot, or, at least, be able to access their Win-blows 
network.


Regards,
cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2010, at 17:58, Michael Thurman kb7...@gmail.com wrote:

  of course when is the last time you ever saw a company that has people with 
 a brain and common sense? if those companies truly existed we wouldn't be 90+ 
 percent unemployed :)   lol   actually what we really need is for blindness 
 organizations to do their job and make companies REALLY understand that blind 
 does not mean damaged
 I'd ask them for a macbook or i mac instead and tell them that you can 
 reinstall the os independantly  maybe they will get you one for work  they 
 will IF they are smart
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:12 PM, 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my
 
 
 
 here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader 
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am 
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke 
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: i-pad vs i-phone?

2010-12-28 Thread Wes Smith
No.the iPad is like a tablet PC almost.you would need an iPhone if you 
wanted all the phone functionsE.G. messaging, calling.
HTH,
Wes.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I am still a *long* way form getting either one of these things, but am 
 curious if the pad offers phone type functions?  I suppose I mean can an 
 i-pad serve as your phone as well, or would one require both devices
 forgive me if this is a babe in the apple grove sort of question, but as 
 expressed, I am not heading this direction for some time, and by then here 
 will likely be an entirely new fleet of i-things, lol.
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Re: IPhone at work

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, one way you could go is VM fusion.  Run windows as a virtual machine. 
 I do this at work for the exact same reason.  I run outlook and other windows 
tools (bmc remedy, etc) and then do my real work on the Mac side.

 

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Cheree wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 Oh!  I never thought of that approach!!
 
 It would have to dual boot, or, at least, be able to access their Win-blows 
 network.
 
 
 Regards,
 cheree Heppe
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 17:58, Michael Thurman kb7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 of course when is the last time you ever saw a company that has people with 
 a brain and common sense? if those companies truly existed we wouldn't be 
 90+ percent unemployed :)   lol   actually what we really need is for 
 blindness organizations to do their job and make companies REALLY understand 
 that blind does not mean damaged
 I'd ask them for a macbook or i mac instead and tell them that you can 
 reinstall the os independantly  maybe they will get you one for work  they 
 will IF they are smart
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:12 PM, 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my
 
 
 
 here:
 
 At work, we use a Windows platform and I use Window-Eyes, a screen reader 
 that allows me to access the computer.
 
 My work computer had a crash that will require our I T person to re-build 
 it.
 
 Am I stuck?
 
 I would have been, but, with my Apple Bluetooth keyboard and IPhone, I am 
 doing my web searching as I would normally do, except I am using the IPhone.
 
 Who would have dreamed of such accessibility a year ago?
 
 This is a definite save for me, especially since this work computer broke 
 down while our I T person is out on holiday.
 
 Oh, yay, Apple!!
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: i-pad vs i-phone?

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
The Pad does not offer phone functions natively.  You can add skype however.

It does offer cellular data for Internet access however.

Hope that helps

On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I am still a *long* way form getting either one of these things, but am 
 curious if the pad offers phone type functions?  I suppose I mean can an 
 i-pad serve as your phone as well, or would one require both devices
 forgive me if this is a babe in the apple grove sort of question, but as 
 expressed, I am not heading this direction for some time, and by then here 
 will likely be an entirely new fleet of i-things, lol.
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Re: very peculiar behavior change with audible.com

2010-12-28 Thread Kimberly thurman
I HAVE CLICK TO FLASH AND IT'S UP TO DATE, AND I CAN'T GET AUDIBLE SAMPLES TO 
PLAY EITHER
On Dec 28, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Randy Stegall wrote:

 What are the settings in the clicktoflash extension to make audible samples 
 play?  For the life of me, I can't get it to work as y'all describe.
 
 
 Randy Stegall
 kc4...@aol.com
 Sent from my Mac Mini.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 lol. could make a creapy halloween sample but generaly not a good idea as it 
 might scare the living daylights out of you. lol!
 
 S
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Thanks Justin,
 
 Looks like we've got ourselves a very excellent confirmation here.  This 
 will especially be useful to newbe users of Macs; because, now, they won't 
 need to struggle as we did to find the mouse method for playing audible 
 samples.  That click to flash extension sure looks to me like it's more 
 than proving its worth.  just one small detail.  I'd recommend setting it 
 to buffer but not play automatically.  Otherwise, every single sample on 
 any audible page will start playing at the same time.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi ray,
 
 I can confirm that I see this new behavior using click to flash, and that 
 temporarily disabling the extension brings things back to the way they 
 used to be. 
 
 Either a recent click to flash update has added support for converting 
 audible samples to html 5 elements, or the folks at audible have switched 
 to using a different flash player  that the extension already knows how to 
 convert. Either way, this is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just now, when I went to Audible.com I experienced something that never 
 before happened.
 
 I opened the page, and, suddenly, all the samples on the page started to 
 play at the same time.  When they all finally stopped, I took a look at 
 the page and noticed numorous audio element control tool bars all over the 
 page.  I mean they were all over the place.  These audio element control 
 tool bars are doubtless familiar to you if you've pressed VO+space on an 
 mp3 file from say
 
 www.blindcooltech.com
 
 to play the file right off the servers.  anyhow, I decided to take a 
 closer look, so, I searched for a title I knew was there; I mean on the 
 site.  When I found the book I was looking for, I nnavigated to it and, 
 guess what, next to the word sample, there was an audio element control 
 tool bar.  At this point, I would have to conclude that the people at 
 audible have heard us and made some major change to their page so that we 
 no longer need to use the mouse method to play samples.  As a qualifier, I 
 must hasten to add that I have the anti flash extension, (I forgot the 
 proper name of it for the moment), and, when I looked at the settings I 
 had made for it, I found that it was set to buffer and start playing the 
 video content automatically.  With this in mind, I have two questions.
 
 1.  For those of you who also have this flash extension, have y'all 
 noticed this difference in audible.com?
 
 2.  Now, for those of you without the extension, are you still needing to 
 play samples using the mouse method?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
 barefootedray
 
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Re: transferring music into itunes library and then to my iphone

2010-12-28 Thread denise avant
hi,
i will try this. but what if your music is on your mac in the downloads folder. 
would the process be the same?

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 Hi Deneise:
 Should be pretty easy transfer.  If the material you want to  bring in isn't 
 on your mac, copy the folder(s) to a flash drive and bring that to the Mac.  
 Now, use the copy and paste to put them into your automatically add to 
 iTunes folder.  This is located in home, under music-itunes.  If I've 
 confused you, you can email me off list and I'll try harder to confuse you 
 more.:)
 Take care.  Oh, BTW: Once thos are added, they'll appear in your itunes 
 library, and you can make whatever playlist(s) you wan to. They'll go to your 
 iPhone the next time you plug it in and sync.
 HTH
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:20 AM, denise avant wrote:
 
 hi all,
 i have some music in a folder called my music, i want to transfer a couple 
 of folders with music from that folder to the itunes library, then i want to 
 transfer those folders onto my iphone. i would imagine i would have to set 
 up a playlist in order to have the songs in a folder play the way i want on 
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Re: i-pad vs i-phone?

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Karen:
The iPad can be used to make ;hlne cals with a third-party app such as Skype.  
But, a phone it is not.  At present, the iPad also doesn't have a camera.  You 
would also probably want to employ a headset if you did use an ipad as a phone, 
because it would be awfully awkward holding the iPad up to your head.:), or 
having your conversation be heard by everyone in the room.

Carolyn H
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I am still a *long* way form getting either one of these things, but am 
 curious if the pad offers phone type functions?  I suppose I mean can an 
 i-pad serve as your phone as well, or would one require both devices
 forgive me if this is a babe in the apple grove sort of question, but as 
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 will likely be an entirely new fleet of i-things, lol.
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Re: transferring music into itunes library and then to my iphone

2010-12-28 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Denise:
No problem.  Just do a copy and paste into that folder that is in music under 
itunes.  It'll say something like automatically add to Itunes.  Just do a 
pasteroo right there and you should be fine.

Carolyn
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:59 PM, denise avant wrote:

 hi,
 i will try this. but what if your music is on your mac in the downloads 
 folder. would the process be the same?
 
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
 
 Hi Deneise:
 Should be pretty easy transfer.  If the material you want to  bring in isn't 
 on your mac, copy the folder(s) to a flash drive and bring that to the Mac.  
 Now, use the copy and paste to put them into your automatically add to 
 iTunes folder.  This is located in home, under music-itunes.  If I've 
 confused you, you can email me off list and I'll try harder to confuse you 
 more.:)
 Take care.  Oh, BTW: Once thos are added, they'll appear in your itunes 
 library, and you can make whatever playlist(s) you wan to. They'll go to 
 your iPhone the next time you plug it in and sync.
 HTH
 Carolyn H
 On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:20 AM, denise avant wrote:
 
 hi all,
 i have some music in a folder called my music, i want to transfer a couple 
 of folders with music from that folder to the itunes library, then i want 
 to transfer those folders onto my iphone. i would imagine i would have to 
 set up a playlist in order to have the songs in a folder play the way i 
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Re: i-pad vs i-phone?

2010-12-28 Thread Karen Lewellen

lol!
Thanks to you and all around.
Given I wold rather find some very long string and a couple of tin cups 
than use skipe, sounds about the same, I will hold out for the  phone.
Does explain how someone sent me an e-mail using his i-pad the other day 
though.

Karen

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi Karen:
The iPad can be used to make ;hlne cals with a third-party app such as Skype.  
But, a phone it is not.  At present, the iPad also doesn't have a camera.  You 
would also probably want to employ a headset if you did use an ipad as a phone, 
because it would be awfully awkward holding the iPad up to your head.:), or 
having your conversation be heard by everyone in the room.

Carolyn H
On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:


Hi folks,
I am still a *long* way form getting either one of these things, but am curious 
if the pad offers phone type functions?  I suppose I mean can an i-pad serve as 
your phone as well, or would one require both devices
forgive me if this is a babe in the apple grove sort of question, but as 
expressed, I am not heading this direction for some time, and by then here will 
likely be an entirely new fleet of i-things, lol.
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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Mary Otten
Michael,
You asked what surround receiver we have. It is an NAD. I can't recall the 
model number just now. But my husband read in the manual some very specific 
language about how you have to connect an optical digital cable along with the 
hdmi cable if you want the digital audio through the receiver, because the hdmi 
carries just the video. 

Mary

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Re: apple TV and choppy speech

2010-12-28 Thread Scott Granados
HDMI has audio supported as part of the spec.

Some receivers though don't decode that correctly so you need the optical link 
or the coax SPDIF deal.

On my Denon receiver you can grab the surround audio right off the HDMI as well 
as use the receiver as a switcher to redirect both audio and video sources to 
the correct display.


On Dec 28, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Michael,
 You asked what surround receiver we have. It is an NAD. I can't recall the 
 model number just now. But my husband read in the manual some very specific 
 language about how you have to connect an optical digital cable along with 
 the hdmi cable if you want the digital audio through the receiver, because 
 the hdmi carries just the video. 
 
 Mary
 
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Interact with Messages Table

2010-12-28 Thread Jim Fettgather
Hello.

When using Control Option J in Apple Mail  to jump from a message back to the 
messages table, is there a way to prevent voiceover from saying:

Interact with Messages Table?

Thanks a lot.

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Re: 3 questions re the music player on the ipod Touch

2010-12-28 Thread Donna Goodin
Cool, thanks, Jorge.  At least I've got one question down. :)
take care,
Donna
On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Hypnotic Consulting wrote:

 2.  How on earth does the table index work?  I've opened it and selected a 
 letter, but the artists in the selected letter don't show up on the screen.
 This one took me a few tries to get it. Once you tap the index, and swipe 
 down to pick a letter. you don't have to do anything else, but right swipe in 
 the middle area to look through your artists.
 Meaning you don't have to double tap the letter m to go to your m artists.
 
 I'm still working on your third q, I tried it for the first time yesterday 
 and didn't have any results.
 Jorge
 
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How to add apps to the doc

2010-12-28 Thread Kevin Gibbs
How do you add apps to the Doc?  I added Text Edit to the Doc by
dragging it using the vision I have.  There must be a VO method for
dragging stuff around and adding stuff to the Dock but I can't find
it.  Any ideas?

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Re: How to add apps to the doc

2010-12-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Kevin,

To add an app to the dock, go to the applications folder by pressing 
Cmd-Shift-A, find your app and press Cmd-Shift-T to add it to the dock. These 
are standard Mac OS X commands, not VO.

Cheers,

Anne

On 29 Dec 2010, at 06:52, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

 How do you add apps to the Doc?  I added Text Edit to the Doc by
 dragging it using the vision I have.  There must be a VO method for
 dragging stuff around and adding stuff to the Dock but I can't find
 it.  Any ideas?
 
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