Re: The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone
Sorry for coming across a bit thick here. But firstly I am unable to open that URL to read the article and secondly we don't have CDMA over here in the UK. Why do CDMA phones cause problems for users who are hard of hearing? Would using something like a Phonak Bluetooth streamer get around the issue? What are the advantages of CDMA over GSM? Chris On 13 Jan 2011, at 04:16, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Why would they be on a CDMA network in the first place then? If I was hard > of hearing, I would find this to be a big deal and would do research. And > you have 30 days to get out of your contract so, the blame would be on them > if their stuck in a contract on a carrier that uses CDMA. > > JMO > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> lol. I'm not the one that came up with the subject line but what about those >> that cannot afford to switch as they are locked in to a contract. I'm just >> surprised that no one discovered it until now. I'm not hard of hearing at >> all, Ok maybe a bit, but yeah I guess using an app on VZ that would alow >> closed captionaing on the iphone during a phone call would be close to >> impossibil. >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, what do you mean? This has always >>> been the case for CDMA. Its not exclusive to the Verizon iPhone. So why >>> would something which is the status quo be impact full? The hard of >>> hearing will do what they been doing, use GSM until LTE is fully deployed. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: http://ow.ly/3COMr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ACSM Adobe Editions Files From Oaverdrive Media
Ok, I know this is a can of worms re: Adobe and suchlike, but I would love to read this e-book from my public library system. It's an ACSM file, which apparently means a sort of check for licensed content, which then allows for downloading epub books which have a time-limited functionality and other restrictions. I see that Adobe Editions is available for the Mac, but is it accessible? Has anyone ever used it? If not, I'll look elsewhere for this book. (Hawking's The Grand Design :) ) TIA Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hello Az, On 13 Jan 2011, at 06:23, AZ wrote: > > If i treat them like english nothing happens. > That's very strange, because here, when we switch to the Russian keyboard, the VO commands work as though it were an English keyboard. Thinking about it, I wonder if it works for us because the OS was installed in English. You can, however, set a shortcut to switch rapidly between the two layouts. In that way, you could enter the VO command using the English layout, then switch immediately to Russian to enter the search term. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
I really wish I was working for the SEC at that time. I'd probably be the only one in that office actually earning his paycheck. -Eric On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Andy, you're the best! > > :) well said > > Nobody and I mean Nobody will ever or has never been fired by anything said > on this list. Absolutely nothing has violated any level of acceptable use > policy by any agency. I'm very familiar with these rules having done network > jobs for the government. > > Remember that SEC officials were watching porn for 8+ hours per day while Mr. > Maddof was amassing billions with out placing a single valid trade. The > point is that much much worse stuff happens at much higher levels and doesn't > get caught. Even more basic than that though is nothing said violates any > policy. Any of the words used would either be rejected at the edges > protecting the mailbox or with in acceptable parameters. I've never seen a > Government or Company filter set to block on content that non-offensive. > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > >> Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the blind >> are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my grandfather was >> a construction worker, and not blind, and often used language that would >> make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of adult blind people where >> alcohol was not served for fear of the poor blind people getting drunk, and >> doing, God knows what. >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple >> >> You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I >> am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% >> unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential >> employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of >> misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading >> this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many >> different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this >> list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of >> blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use >> inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a >> job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having >> somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of >> their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with >> common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree >> with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me >> in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a >> moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting >> meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using >> the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, >> I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually >> come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference >> of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >>> >>> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want >> reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral >> high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >>> >>> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience >> as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If >> this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >>> >>> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over >> the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits >> that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to >> content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest >> order. >>> >>> Heh >>> >>> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of >> silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community >> lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper >> right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your >> pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express >> themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >>> >>> Good times! >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina
Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
That's cool. BTW, magically and inexplicably, I'm not having a problem with it now, even after turning bluetooth off and back on again, but I'm ever vigilant from now on. :> Teresa On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > All, > > THis is a known issue and affects a number of Braille displays. Apple is > working on a fix. I have a Refreshabraille and I have received confirmation > that the issue is being addressed. > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Hi, folk, >> >> It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it >> with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this >> once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch >> keyboard, it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired >> every time they are used with IOS4? >> >> Thanks, >> Teresa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
given the lifespan of some of my family members, My great Grandfather would have been just an idea in my great great grandfather's marriage. I really wish I had a Lincoln in my family line. I do have some interesting characters from the mid to late 1500's on my mom's side though. -Eric On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > actually, I believe that that quote originally came from your grandfather, > Abraham Lincoln. (SMILE)! > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Oyen > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > > I have used course language myself at times. The problem remains though, we > are singling out others in our own community for being too abrasive when > they are mild by comparison to some sighties. > > now I realize that the mods here have specific rules and ethics to which the > adhere. We need to trust them to do their jobs. it is not up to us to tell > them how. The problem I see here is that someone will be offended no matter > what we say or do. My great Grandfather summed up nicely: "you can please > some of the people some of the time. you can please all of the people some > of the time. BUT, you cannot please all of the people all of the time". It > sounds cliche I know, but, it is often true. > > -Eric > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > >> Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the >> blind are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my >> grandfather was a construction worker, and not blind, and often used >> language that would make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of >> adult blind people where alcohol was not served for fear of the poor >> blind people getting drunk, and doing, God knows what. >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for >> Apple >> >> You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. >> However I am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the >> other 75% unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares >> potential employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no >> possibility of misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we >> don't know who's reading this. Let me also tell you that lists like >> this are archived in many different places. When you go to look for >> employment employers look at this list if there's bad language you can >> cost people jobs and that only 30% of blind Americans working in this >> country I implore you to please do not use inappropriate and >> nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a job and I >> don't think that the participants and listless want to be having >> somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the >> rest of their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat >> people with common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In >> short I agree with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this >> thread disturbs me in many different ways, would be an understatement. >> Let's move on. I'm not a moderator, but if we're interested in all >> getting out there, and getting meaningful positions of employment for >> those of us were not working, using the target language is imperative. >> Thank you very much for reading this. PS, I am using dictation >> software. As my tagline says some words they actually come out and > appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference of what I am > saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >>> >>> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want >> reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial >> moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >>> >>> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano >>> experience >> as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word >> piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >>> >>> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for >>> over >> the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed >> suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who >> objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy >> duddy of the highest order. >>> >>> Heh >>
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hi. If i treat them like english nothing happens. AZ 13.01.2011 1:58, Anne Robertson writes: Hello Az, When your keyboard is set to Russian, treat the keys as though they were set to English when using VO commands. Don't forget to tell Accessibility about this problem. Are you aware that Russian Braille is available? You can download the multi-lingual Braille package from: Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 20:39, AZ wrote: Hi/ Yes, i'm using a russian layout and english too. On the english all works, in russian almost nothing. And i can not use the russian layout when trying to search something by "Ctrl+Option+f" AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MOderator note -was- Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Hi Scott et al; Okay, This is your last warning, and before you go calling me or anyone else names about this, -I've been more than fair with you. Either close this topic now or I'll simply remove your ability to post. Yeah, yeah, I know it's no big deal and you can get around it easily, but the fact is that regardless of any of the banter being passed around here of the opinion that no one is *really* doing anything wrong, the point is that for this particular list, off-color language isn't welcome so yes, here it's wrong. :) So either simply respect this policy and move on, or don't. It's your choice. I'd hate to see you not want, or be able to contribute to this list, as you're a pretty smart guy. :) -but the plain fact is that right now, you're simply being obnoxious and disruptive to some others on this list, and I'm simply done tolerating it. -Either you stop now, or you stop posting. Simple as that. -Make sense?… To the list in general; let's please now, move on from this topic. Thanks for reading and I hope you're all having a great day / evening, wherever you may be!… Rock! Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 12, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Andy, you're the best! :) well said Nobody and I mean Nobody will ever or has never been fired by anything said on this list. Absolutely nothing has violated any level of acceptable use policy by any agency. I'm very familiar with these rules having done network jobs for the government. Remember that SEC officials were watching porn for 8+ hours per day while Mr. Maddof was amassing billions with out placing a single valid trade. The point is that much much worse stuff happens at much higher levels and doesn't get caught. Even more basic than that though is nothing said violates any policy. Any of the words used would either be rejected at the edges protecting the mailbox or with in acceptable parameters. I've never seen a Government or Company filter set to block on content that non-offensive. On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the blind > are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my grandfather was > a construction worker, and not blind, and often used language that would > make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of adult blind people where > alcohol was not served for fear of the poor blind people getting drunk, and > doing, God knows what. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > > You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I > am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% > unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential > employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of > misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading > this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many > different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this > list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of > blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use > inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a > job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having > somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of > their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with > common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree > with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me > in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a > moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting > meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using > the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, > I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually > come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference > of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a
RE: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
actually, I believe that that quote originally came from your grandfather, Abraham Lincoln. (SMILE)! Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Oyen Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple I have used course language myself at times. The problem remains though, we are singling out others in our own community for being too abrasive when they are mild by comparison to some sighties. now I realize that the mods here have specific rules and ethics to which the adhere. We need to trust them to do their jobs. it is not up to us to tell them how. The problem I see here is that someone will be offended no matter what we say or do. My great Grandfather summed up nicely: "you can please some of the people some of the time. you can please all of the people some of the time. BUT, you cannot please all of the people all of the time". It sounds cliche I know, but, it is often true. -Eric On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the > blind are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my > grandfather was a construction worker, and not blind, and often used > language that would make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of > adult blind people where alcohol was not served for fear of the poor > blind people getting drunk, and doing, God knows what. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for > Apple > > You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. > However I am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the > other 75% unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares > potential employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no > possibility of misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we > don't know who's reading this. Let me also tell you that lists like > this are archived in many different places. When you go to look for > employment employers look at this list if there's bad language you can > cost people jobs and that only 30% of blind Americans working in this > country I implore you to please do not use inappropriate and > nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a job and I > don't think that the participants and listless want to be having > somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the > rest of their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat > people with common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In > short I agree with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this > thread disturbs me in many different ways, would be an understatement. > Let's move on. I'm not a moderator, but if we're interested in all > getting out there, and getting meaningful positions of employment for > those of us were not working, using the target language is imperative. > Thank you very much for reading this. PS, I am using dictation > software. As my tagline says some words they actually come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial > moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano >> experience > as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word > piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >> >> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for >> over > the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed > suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who > objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy > duddy of the highest order. >> >> Heh >> >> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind > community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located > in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. > You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses > their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >> >> Good
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Andy, you're the best! :) well said Nobody and I mean Nobody will ever or has never been fired by anything said on this list. Absolutely nothing has violated any level of acceptable use policy by any agency. I'm very familiar with these rules having done network jobs for the government. Remember that SEC officials were watching porn for 8+ hours per day while Mr. Maddof was amassing billions with out placing a single valid trade. The point is that much much worse stuff happens at much higher levels and doesn't get caught. Even more basic than that though is nothing said violates any policy. Any of the words used would either be rejected at the edges protecting the mailbox or with in acceptable parameters. I've never seen a Government or Company filter set to block on content that non-offensive. On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the blind > are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my grandfather was > a construction worker, and not blind, and often used language that would > make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of adult blind people where > alcohol was not served for fear of the poor blind people getting drunk, and > doing, God knows what. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > > You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I > am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% > unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential > employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of > misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading > this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many > different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this > list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of > blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use > inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a > job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having > somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of > their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with > common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree > with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me > in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a > moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting > meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using > the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, > I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually > come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference > of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience > as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If > this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >> >> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over > the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits > that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to > content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest > order. >> >> Heh >> >> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community > lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper > right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your > pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express > themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >> >> Good times! >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status > those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests > regarding language. >>> >>> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with > anything but respect and pr
Re: Airport Express question
You'll have to use some enterprise level gear for that. Modem backup is old school.:) Most places use DSL or 3G backup now. I'm seeing a lot of 3 / 4G. An old Cisco with Modem Wic would do the trick. You should be able to get one on ebay for 1 - 200 maybe a bit more. I'm with you Scott I think the days of modem support on consumer hardware are numbered at least for the most part. On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Correct, I was thinking of DSL or cable. How quickly one forgets about those > good old dial-up days. So, you are correct, a dial-up modem cannot be > connected to the router. Funny you mention this as I recall APple had an old > Airport router (think they called it Extreme) that looked like a UFO and it > actually had a dial-up modem built-in. Never did try using it with dial-up, > but would have been interesting. > > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> Scott, >> >> I believe you are thinking of a DSL modem or Cable modem, both of which are >> supplied with a ethernet output. Traditional modems use a phone line with a >> RJ11 connector, and there is no RJ11 jack on the current versions of Apple's >> Airport line of Router/BaseStations. >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Yes it can. >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:50 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>> Listers, Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a router? Thanks in advance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone
Why would they be on a CDMA network in the first place then? If I was hard of hearing, I would find this to be a big deal and would do research. And you have 30 days to get out of your contract so, the blame would be on them if their stuck in a contract on a carrier that uses CDMA. JMO Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. I'm not the one that came up with the subject line but what about those > that cannot afford to switch as they are locked in to a contract. I'm just > surprised that no one discovered it until now. I'm not hard of hearing at > all, Ok maybe a bit, but yeah I guess using an app on VZ that would alow > closed captionaing on the iphone during a phone call would be close to > impossibil. > On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, what do you mean? This has always >> been the case for CDMA. Its not exclusive to the Verizon iPhone. So why >> would something which is the status quo be impact full? The hard of hearing >> will do what they been doing, use GSM until LTE is fully deployed. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: >>> >>> http://ow.ly/3COMr >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
I hear you, I push over 500 GB per month over my home network. I went to a comcast business account and it's still unmetered. On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > but 5 gb per months is quite low. I can pull at least 50 on my home hotspot > and that is truely unlimited. OH and that's 50 or more per month. lol! > > S > On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> The interesting part of this is that if AT&T does elect to offer the hotspot >> feature, I can bet you that anyone with the unlimited data plan will not be >> offered the option. If that is the case, that might push subscribers away. >> If AT&T is smart they will either allow the option to everyone regardless of >> his/her data plan or they will raise the 2Gb cap to 5Gb. My understanding >> (unconfirmed) is that VZW will not offer unlimited data plans perhaps, but >> instead data plans with a 5Gb limit. So, time will tell. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot. >>> apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it. >>> at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20. >>> Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must >>> plan to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned >>> on or off. >>> Or so I gathered from a fast read lol. >>> Karen >>> >>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ read more if you can: http://dlvr.it/D7KPM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
I bet verizon will go unlimited once 4G is deployed widely and a new IPhone is released. Existing 3G space is much more expensive because there's less shared bandwidth in each cell. I hope we see unlimited or really high caps with 4G. We have a modem at work that's LTE nd we have LTE service in San Francisco but the cap is something like 10 gigabytes. I hope verizon elects to go with a larger cap long term but money almost always wins. On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > The interesting part of this is that if AT&T does elect to offer the hotspot > feature, I can bet you that anyone with the unlimited data plan will not be > offered the option. If that is the case, that might push subscribers away. If > AT&T is smart they will either allow the option to everyone regardless of > his/her data plan or they will raise the 2Gb cap to 5Gb. My understanding > (unconfirmed) is that VZW will not offer unlimited data plans perhaps, but > instead data plans with a 5Gb limit. So, time will tell. > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot. >> apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it. >> at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20. >> Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must >> plan to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned >> on or off. >> Or so I gathered from a fast read lol. >> Karen >> >> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but >>> if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ >>> >>> read more if you can: >>> >>> http://dlvr.it/D7KPM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone
lol. I'm not the one that came up with the subject line but what about those that cannot afford to switch as they are locked in to a contract. I'm just surprised that no one discovered it until now. I'm not hard of hearing at all, Ok maybe a bit, but yeah I guess using an app on VZ that would alow closed captionaing on the iphone during a phone call would be close to impossibil. On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, what do you mean? This has always > been the case for CDMA. Its not exclusive to the Verizon iPhone. So why > would something which is the status quo be impact full? The hard of hearing > will do what they been doing, use GSM until LTE is fully deployed. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: >> >> http://ow.ly/3COMr >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
I have a dev account with apple. in fact, I think I have all the tools installed here. However, I am not a coder. I like to compile linux based tools for use in OS X. -Eric On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Yep we'll see. I can't test the thing as I don't have a beta testing account > but I'm excited. Hopefully some VO bugs will be fixed like the cutting off of > letters at faster rates. I've addressed to apple and htey are aware of it. > > S > On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> I'm not sure about accessibility because, everything native to IOS is >> already accessible but, I think these additions would definitely enhance >> productivity for consumers at large. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the >>> consumer? read more: >>> >>> http://bit.ly/fmJNjY >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
Yep we'll see. I can't test the thing as I don't have a beta testing account but I'm excited. Hopefully some VO bugs will be fixed like the cutting off of letters at faster rates. I've addressed to apple and htey are aware of it. S On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > I'm not sure about accessibility because, everything native to IOS is already > accessible but, I think these additions would definitely enhance productivity > for consumers at large. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the >> consumer? read more: >> >> http://bit.ly/fmJNjY >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Airport Express question
Hi, But the original poster didn't specify. They just said modem. I think its just natural to assume one is speaking of a DSL or cable modem. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > Scott, > > I believe you are thinking of a DSL modem or Cable modem, both of which are > supplied with a ethernet output. Traditional modems use a phone line with a > RJ11 connector, and there is no RJ11 jack on the current versions of Apple's > Airport line of Router/BaseStations. > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Yes it can. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:50 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >> >>> Listers, >>> >>> Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and >>> provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a >>> router? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone
I don't mean to sound like a jerk but, what do you mean? This has always been the case for CDMA. Its not exclusive to the Verizon iPhone. So why would something which is the status quo be impact full? The hard of hearing will do what they been doing, use GSM until LTE is fully deployed. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: > > http://ow.ly/3COMr > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
I'm not sure about accessibility because, everything native to IOS is already accessible but, I think these additions would definitely enhance productivity for consumers at large. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the consumer? > read more: > > http://bit.ly/fmJNjY > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
I have used course language myself at times. The problem remains though, we are singling out others in our own community for being too abrasive when they are mild by comparison to some sighties. now I realize that the mods here have specific rules and ethics to which the adhere. We need to trust them to do their jobs. it is not up to us to tell them how. The problem I see here is that someone will be offended no matter what we say or do. My great Grandfather summed up nicely: "you can please some of the people some of the time. you can please all of the people some of the time. BUT, you cannot please all of the people all of the time". It sounds cliche I know, but, it is often true. -Eric On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the blind > are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my grandfather was > a construction worker, and not blind, and often used language that would > make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of adult blind people where > alcohol was not served for fear of the poor blind people getting drunk, and > doing, God knows what. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > > You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I > am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% > unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential > employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of > misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading > this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many > different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this > list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of > blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use > inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a > job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having > somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of > their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with > common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree > with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me > in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a > moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting > meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using > the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, > I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually > come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference > of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience > as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If > this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >> >> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over > the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits > that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to > content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest > order. >> >> Heh >> >> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community > lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper > right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your > pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express > themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >> >> Good times! >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status > those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests > regarding language. >>> >>> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with > anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group
RE: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Oh! God! Please give me strength. Are people really saying that the blind are the only segment of society that uses raw language? my grandfather was a construction worker, and not blind, and often used language that would make one blush. This reminds me of gatherings of adult blind people where alcohol was not served for fear of the poor blind people getting drunk, and doing, God knows what. Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maurice Mines Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > What's reasonable, who's definition of language? > > Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? > > What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? > > At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. > > Heh > > Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. > > Good times! > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding language. >> >> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > maurice amateur radio call sign,kd0iko. national Federation of the blind of Cole Rondo assisted newsline coordinator, office phone 970. 373-3076 Northern Colorado amateur radio club tried Vander, newsletter editor. University of Northern Co
Re: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
I'm not on that list anymore for my own reasons. lol! and I have not gotten any complaints about the posting of articles. S On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > No, I see no reason why any of the features in the article would > enhance accessibility unless you've spotted something that I haven't? > Also, I do understand the overlap, but surely this is more viphone, > like all the other news stories? > > On 12/01/2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the >> consumer? read more: >> >> http://bit.ly/fmJNjY >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Response from Drop box Team
tha't what they aid to me a few months ago. Hmm canned? Yep. On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Okay. What you see pasted below is the response I got from the Drop Box Team > about the issue of those of us who have the latest version of Drop Box not > being able to gain access to the prefs window. > > " > Kevin, Jan-12 04:13 pm (PST): > Hi Ray, > > Thanks for writing to Dropbox. We are aware of this problem and are working > to fix it. We apologize for the loss of functionality. > > Please contact us if you have any other questions. > > Regards, > Kevin > > > Ray Foret jr, Jan-11 07:02 am (PST): > I'm a blind Mac user. Having now installed the latest version of Drop Box, I > find that accessing the prefs window is not at all possible. when I try to > click with the mouse, Press VO+space, or just press the space bar on the > prefs menu, I cannot access this at all. this really does need to be > addressed. Many thanks. > > > " > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! > > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes podcast question
Hello. Make sure the view is set to text list view in iTunes. It's a radio button you'll find when you use control-option-left or right-arrow to move around the screen. Just check it with control-space. Interact with the podcast table using control-option-shift-down-arrow. Arrow down to the podcast you want to downnload. When you find it, do control-option-shift-m and use your arrow keys till you hear "download all podcast episodes." Hit the return key. The episodes will start downloading. If you only want to download certain episodes, just arrow to the episodes you want to download and hit control-option-shift-m on each one individually; you'll then hear "download podcast episode." You then hit return and the episodes will download. HTH, Jane On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:56 PM, denise avant wrote: > hi all, > i have a couple of podcasts that are undownloaded. i am not sure how to go > about getting them to download. i tried checking the box with the podcast > title but nothing doing. perhaps i am missing a step. i'm using itunes on my > macbook pro. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Response from Drop box Team
You were able to access dropbox at all? All I got in the old version was a whole bunch of unknowns during the setup process and then nothing after the setup was finished. I get nothing at all with the new version. On 2011-01-12, at 7:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Okay. What you see pasted below is the response I got from the Drop Box Team > about the issue of those of us who have the latest version of Drop Box not > being able to gain access to the prefs window. > > " > Kevin, Jan-12 04:13 pm (PST): > Hi Ray, > > Thanks for writing to Dropbox. We are aware of this problem and are working > to fix it. We apologize for the loss of functionality. > > Please contact us if you have any other questions. > > Regards, > Kevin > > > Ray Foret jr, Jan-11 07:02 am (PST): > I'm a blind Mac user. Having now installed the latest version of Drop Box, I > find that accessing the prefs window is not at all possible. when I try to > click with the mouse, Press VO+space, or just press the space bar on the > prefs menu, I cannot access this at all. this really does need to be > addressed. Many thanks. > > > " > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! > > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
itunes podcast question
hi all, i have a couple of podcasts that are undownloaded. i am not sure how to go about getting them to download. i tried checking the box with the podcast title but nothing doing. perhaps i am missing a step. i'm using itunes on my macbook pro. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Do this tell application "Skype" activate On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I did that wiht the skype application > > tell application "skype" to activate and it still barfed. I will try the > second method and see if that works. > > S > On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> OK. I was looking at a different copy of your script. >> >> You can either use >> Tell Application "Foo" >> something to work on >> end tell >> >> OR you can >> Tell application "Foo" to something to work on >> >> Note in the second version everything is on one line, and there is the word >> to between the tell section and the command that the foo bapplication is >> going to process. >> >> So dropping that end tel, or changing the to to a new line will correct >> this error. >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Nope. I still got this. >>> >>> Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. >>> >>> Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the >>> activate thing. >>> >>> tell application "skype" to activate >>> end tell >>> do shell script "./clisk" >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: >>> You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to run. Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " The quotes need to surround the words after script. I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. Jonathan On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. > > try > tell application "skype" to activate > do shell script ./clisk > end try > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact >> with the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and >> then single character through that. >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
tell application "Skype" activate end tell do shell script "open -a Terminal ./clisk_mac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Airport Express question
Correct, I was thinking of DSL or cable. How quickly one forgets about those good old dial-up days. So, you are correct, a dial-up modem cannot be connected to the router. Funny you mention this as I recall APple had an old Airport router (think they called it Extreme) that looked like a UFO and it actually had a dial-up modem built-in. Never did try using it with dial-up, but would have been interesting. Scott On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > Scott, > > I believe you are thinking of a DSL modem or Cable modem, both of which are > supplied with a ethernet output. Traditional modems use a phone line with a > RJ11 connector, and there is no RJ11 jack on the current versions of Apple's > Airport line of Router/BaseStations. > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Yes it can. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:50 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >> >>> Listers, >>> >>> Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and >>> provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a >>> router? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Response from Drop box Team
Okay. What you see pasted below is the response I got from the Drop Box Team about the issue of those of us who have the latest version of Drop Box not being able to gain access to the prefs window. " Kevin, Jan-12 04:13 pm (PST): Hi Ray, Thanks for writing to Dropbox. We are aware of this problem and are working to fix it. We apologize for the loss of functionality. Please contact us if you have any other questions. Regards, Kevin Ray Foret jr, Jan-11 07:02 am (PST): I'm a blind Mac user. Having now installed the latest version of Drop Box, I find that accessing the prefs window is not at all possible. when I try to click with the mouse, Press VO+space, or just press the space bar on the prefs menu, I cannot access this at all. this really does need to be addressed. Many thanks. " Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
No, I see no reason why any of the features in the article would enhance accessibility unless you've spotted something that I haven't? Also, I do understand the overlap, but surely this is more viphone, like all the other news stories? On 12/01/2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the > consumer? read more: > > http://bit.ly/fmJNjY > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Ok it worked the first time but it died again. Here is the revised script now that the shell script won't work. lol! tell application "Skype" activate end tell tell application "finder" open file "clisk_mac" in home using terminal.app end tell suggestions? On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > OK. I was looking at a different copy of your script. > > You can either use > Tell Application "Foo" > something to work on > end tell > > OR you can > Tell application "Foo" to something to work on > > Note in the second version everything is on one line, and there is the word > to between the tell section and the command that the foo bapplication is > going to process. > > So dropping that end tel, or changing the to to a new line will correct this > error. > > Jonathan > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Nope. I still got this. >> >> Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. >> >> Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the activate >> thing. >> >> tell application "skype" to activate >> end tell >> do shell script "./clisk" >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> >>> You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to >>> run. >>> >>> Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. >>> >>> But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " >>> >>> The quotes need to surround the words after script. >>> >>> I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. try tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end try On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact > with the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and > then single character through that. > > Jon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Well that sort of worked except the do shell script didn't work. the reason I know that is because terminal is suposed to open and so is python window as well so looks like I"ll have to use the open command. Hopefully I can remember how that works! lol! On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > OK. I was looking at a different copy of your script. > > You can either use > Tell Application "Foo" > something to work on > end tell > > OR you can > Tell application "Foo" to something to work on > > Note in the second version everything is on one line, and there is the word > to between the tell section and the command that the foo bapplication is > going to process. > > So dropping that end tel, or changing the to to a new line will correct this > error. > > Jonathan > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Nope. I still got this. >> >> Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. >> >> Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the activate >> thing. >> >> tell application "skype" to activate >> end tell >> do shell script "./clisk" >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> >>> You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to >>> run. >>> >>> Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. >>> >>> But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " >>> >>> The quotes need to surround the words after script. >>> >>> I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. try tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end try On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact > with the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and > then single character through that. > > Jon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
I did that wiht the skype application tell application "skype" to activate and it still barfed. I will try the second method and see if that works. S On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > OK. I was looking at a different copy of your script. > > You can either use > Tell Application "Foo" > something to work on > end tell > > OR you can > Tell application "Foo" to something to work on > > Note in the second version everything is on one line, and there is the word > to between the tell section and the command that the foo bapplication is > going to process. > > So dropping that end tel, or changing the to to a new line will correct this > error. > > Jonathan > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Nope. I still got this. >> >> Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. >> >> Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the activate >> thing. >> >> tell application "skype" to activate >> end tell >> do shell script "./clisk" >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> >>> You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to >>> run. >>> >>> Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. >>> >>> But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " >>> >>> The quotes need to surround the words after script. >>> >>> I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. try tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end try On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact > with the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and > then single character through that. > > Jon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Re: a question about apple scripting
OK. I was looking at a different copy of your script. You can either use Tell Application "Foo" something to work on end tell OR you can Tell application "Foo" to something to work on Note in the second version everything is on one line, and there is the word to between the tell section and the command that the foo bapplication is going to process. So dropping that end tel, or changing the to to a new line will correct this error. Jonathan On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Nope. I still got this. > > Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. > > Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the activate > thing. > > tell application "skype" to activate > end tell > do shell script "./clisk" > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to >> run. >> >> Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. >> >> But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " >> >> The quotes need to surround the words after script. >> >> I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. >>> >>> try >>> tell application "skype" to activate >>> do shell script ./clisk >>> end try >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: >>> You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact with the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and then single character through that. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
and how am I gong ot let at&t know if the contact form is not accessibil with safari? Not trying to be rude but it is and talking to them by phone is not easy if you dont have a problem. lol! On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Although there is a good chance AT&T will allow the hotspot feature if they > are smart. There are rumors that iOS 4.3 will offer this on all iPhones (that > can take 4.3) and it will be up to the carrier to support the feature. So, > let AT&T know you want this and I am sure your voice will be among many. > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> No. >> >> Thats tethering. Turning the iPhone into a mobile hotspot is something >> different. And its something the Verizon iPhone has and theAT&T iPhone >> doesn't. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> You can, for 30 dollars a month but if you have the unlimited you loose it >>> and 2 gigs a month won't cut it. lol! not for theathering. >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Chris Harrington wrote: >>> On thing that bugs me with ATT, is you can't get on wirelessly to the iPhone and use it as a hot spot. At least right now you can't, unless I'm missing something... Chris http://www.c-harrington.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple I've had no problems with at&t customer service, how ever I can see where you are coming from. It looks like though that prices are going to be the same as I read an article so we'll see. S On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:18 PM, James Mannion wrote: > The link worked fine for me as well. I hope the IPhone does well on > Verizon and that Verizon makes more of an atempt to be customer > oriented than AT&T ever has. AT&T sees no reason to make their network > what it should be if they can have a customer based trapped and can > screw them instead of making them happy. Maybe now they will face that > glorious reality that if you treat customers like shit you don't have > them. > > On 1/10/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The link works just fine for me. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Um? not the response I expected but I'll take a look and repost. Thanks >>> for letting me know. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> bad link On Jan 10, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Will this hurt or hinder apple, at&t or both? read more: > > http://bit.ly/fCCxOo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
but 5 gb per months is quite low. I can pull at least 50 on my home hotspot and that is truely unlimited. OH and that's 50 or more per month. lol! S On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > The interesting part of this is that if AT&T does elect to offer the hotspot > feature, I can bet you that anyone with the unlimited data plan will not be > offered the option. If that is the case, that might push subscribers away. If > AT&T is smart they will either allow the option to everyone regardless of > his/her data plan or they will raise the 2Gb cap to 5Gb. My understanding > (unconfirmed) is that VZW will not offer unlimited data plans perhaps, but > instead data plans with a 5Gb limit. So, time will tell. > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot. >> apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it. >> at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20. >> Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must >> plan to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned >> on or off. >> Or so I gathered from a fast read lol. >> Karen >> >> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but >>> if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ >>> >>> read more if you can: >>> >>> http://dlvr.it/D7KPM >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Nope. I still got this. Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. Here is the revised one with the quotes. it seems to barf after the activate thing. tell application "skype" to activate end tell do shell script "./clisk" On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: > You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to > run. > > Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. > > But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " > > The quotes need to surround the words after script. > > I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. > > Jonathan > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. >> >> try >> tell application "skype" to activate >> do shell script ./clisk >> end try >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> >>> You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact with >>> the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and then >>> single character through that. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Airport Express question
Scott, I believe you are thinking of a DSL modem or Cable modem, both of which are supplied with a ethernet output. Traditional modems use a phone line with a RJ11 connector, and there is no RJ11 jack on the current versions of Apple's Airport line of Router/BaseStations. On Jan 12, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Yes it can. > Scott > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:50 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: > >> Listers, >> >> Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and >> provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a >> router? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple REmote Desktop
Thanks, I'd be curious how it behaves on the Mac side and how much control one gets. In other words, it would be nice to remotely manage a machine and not have to worry about the audio on the remote machine. I don't know that I would spend the money, but the idea is interesting for sure. :) Scott On Jan 11, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello Scott, > I have not used that version, however I have used the version that is > intigrated in the MBP. I found that it worked fine, however the voiceover > was on the controlled machine. I did not get any audio on the computer that > I was accessing the controlled machinmachine. Jan 11, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Scott > Howell wrote: > Sincerely, > Scott > > >> ALl, >> >> I was curious if anyone has played with the most recent version of Apple >> Remote Desktop, >> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-remote-desktop/id409907375?mt=12. I was >> looking around the App store and found this item. I realize this package is >> $79 and is not for most users, but curious if anyone has tried it and if so, >> how accessible was it. >> >> THanks, >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
That is because the F key is no longer a F key once you have changed to a non latin keyboard. I played around a little with Hebrew layouts and discovered the same thing. I suggest getting / using a numeric keypad, and then configuring that for the functions you need, Best regards, Jon On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:39 PM, AZ wrote: > Hi/ > > Yes, i'm using a russian layout and english too. On the english all works, in > russian almost nothing. And i can not use the russian layout when trying to > search something by "Ctrl+Option+f" > AZ > > 12.01.2011 21:23, Anne Robertson пишет: >> Hello Az, >> >> I'm afraid I don't understand what you're doing. I use both the British >> English and the French keyboard layout with no trouble at all. Are you using >> a layout that has a completely different character set such as greek or >> Russian? If so, I'll try to look into your problem. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 12 Jan 2011, at 18:09, AZ wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Using Windows and Jaws i frequently press "Ctrl+f" to find necessary word >>> on a page. I know, the same feature exists in Voice Over search, "VO+f", >>> but once i press this combination i cann't switch between languages to >>> choose an other one. VoiceOver says that this combination is not supported >>> here, once i switch the needed language before this combination i cann't >>> call search feature because combinations in Mac OS X work only in english >>> layout. Maybe someone has an advice? >>> Thanks >>> >>>AZ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
The interesting part of this is that if AT&T does elect to offer the hotspot feature, I can bet you that anyone with the unlimited data plan will not be offered the option. If that is the case, that might push subscribers away. If AT&T is smart they will either allow the option to everyone regardless of his/her data plan or they will raise the 2Gb cap to 5Gb. My understanding (unconfirmed) is that VZW will not offer unlimited data plans perhaps, but instead data plans with a 5Gb limit. So, time will tell. Scott On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot. > apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it. > at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20. > Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must plan > to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned on or > off. > Or so I gathered from a fast read lol. > Karen > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but >> if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ >> >> read more if you can: >> >> http://dlvr.it/D7KPM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
When That Call Comes In, an iPhone Hotspot Is Not So Hot [Mobilized]
If you get a call while you are sharing that hotspot data transmission will stop. read more: http://bit.ly/gh9YIC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
You are missing quotes around the shell command that you are attempting to run. Also this might be a case where you need to use the terminal I am not sure. But it will compile if you use a double quote that is the next char " The quotes need to surround the words after script. I often put all punctuation on while working with AppleScript. Jonathan On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. > > try > tell application "skype" to activate > do shell script ./clisk > end try > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact with >> the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and then single >> character through that. >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Although there is a good chance AT&T will allow the hotspot feature if they are smart. There are rumors that iOS 4.3 will offer this on all iPhones (that can take 4.3) and it will be up to the carrier to support the feature. So, let AT&T know you want this and I am sure your voice will be among many. Scott On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > No. > > Thats tethering. Turning the iPhone into a mobile hotspot is something > different. And its something the Verizon iPhone has and theAT&T iPhone > doesn't. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You can, for 30 dollars a month but if you have the unlimited you loose it >> and 2 gigs a month won't cut it. lol! not for theathering. >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Chris Harrington wrote: >> >>> On thing that bugs me with ATT, is you can't get on wirelessly to the >>> iPhone and use it as a hot spot. At least right now you can't, unless I'm >>> missing something... >>> Chris >>> >>> http://www.c-harrington.com >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:33 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple >>> >>> I've had no problems with at&t customer service, how ever I can see where >>> you are coming from. It looks like though that prices are going to be the >>> same as I read an article so we'll see. >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:18 PM, James Mannion wrote: >>> The link worked fine for me as well. I hope the IPhone does well on Verizon and that Verizon makes more of an atempt to be customer oriented than AT&T ever has. AT&T sees no reason to make their network what it should be if they can have a customer based trapped and can screw them instead of making them happy. Maybe now they will face that glorious reality that if you treat customers like shit you don't have them. On 1/10/11, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > The link works just fine for me. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Um? not the response I expected but I'll take a look and repost. Thanks >> for letting me know. >> >> S >> On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> bad link >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Will this hurt or hinder apple, at&t or both? read more: http://bit.ly/fCCxOo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionar
The Verizon iPhone is not as accessible to deaf and hard of hearing as AT&T's iPhone
How will this impact those of us with hearing troubles? read more: http://ow.ly/3COMr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Airport Express question
Yes it can. Scott On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:50 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: > Listers, > > Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and > provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a > router? > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
All, THis is a known issue and affects a number of Braille displays. Apple is working on a fix. I have a Refreshabraille and I have received confirmation that the issue is being addressed. Scott On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, folk, > > It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it > with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this > once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch keyboard, > it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired every time > they are used with IOS4? > > Thanks, > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: learning voiceover the old fashioned way?
Paul's right the One to One instructors are just now starting to get into VO training. It takes time. Do understand that these trainers are more computer oriented rather than knowledgable of disabilities. They are very smart and open minded, but uneducated when it comes to disabilities. On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:36 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > I signed up for one to one training and schedule my classes so that I get the > same trainer. We built a working relationship and she is learning voiceover > as we work together. I also learn from manuals podcasts and this list. The > best way to learn is teaching. Also remember that the Apple store primarily > works by appointment. > > On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:25 PM, "brandt" wrote: > >> I know that the apple stores around here does boath training for mac >> opperating system and iWorks. I inquired about voiceover, and the guy I >> spoke to didn't have a clue what I was talking about. That's why, when I >> ever get that mac, I'm going in on my own, with help from the podcasts done >> by mike Arrigo. >> >> Regards, >> >> Brandt Steenkamp >> >> MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com >> >> Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> >> AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >> >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 >> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Haas" >> To: >> Cc: "Carolyn Haas" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:04 AM >> Subject: Re: learning voiceover the old fashioned way? >> >> >> Hi Karen: >> A couple of things come to mind here. I'm not big on podcasts, and, like >> you prefer to learn hands on or at least with something hardcopy braille. >> There are a couple of options. If you read braille, there is a braille >> version of the "getting started guide" availaable from I believe the san >> Fransisco lighthouse. >> >> >> There is also a tutorial available through Handytech USA though I'm not sure >> which format it comes in. Last I knew the cost for that one was $75, and >> you can get it through Handytech usa. Another option is to check out the >> text tutorials on the Apple website,. There are also workshops through >> Handitech, and one to one from Apple directly, if there is an Apple store >> near you. >> HTH >> Carolyn HOn Jan 4, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> If I have read it once I have read it a zillion times, and agree. It is >>> important to know a screen reader as completely as possible. >>> I prefer, especially if I cannot get hands on training, or if I have seen >>> that others may have issues, to read as much as I can in advance. >>> so, has anyone put together a solid users guide specifically for voiceover? >>> I realize any such guide would be in flux, changing as apple upgrades the >>> system in general, and voiceover in particular. Still a solid guide, more >>> for reading than say someones audio tutorials would be fantastic. >>> Say the sort of book one would use in a classroom, or that would have come >>> in the box with your old style screen readers? >>> thanks in advance, >>> Karen >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
Hi Scott, I love my iPhone too! As for locking the screen, I toggle between VO/zoom/Reverse colors, so since my accessibility isn't always turned on I lock the screen so I don't touch everything when the phone is in my pocket. I'm going to play with some of the typing suggestions. Sara On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello everyone, > I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the > keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. Is > this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found that > the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life of me > find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the setting? > I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one > would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I saved it > however I cannot find it. > Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail > message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that > post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail > application running in the background and switch to other applications or > just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b >my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA > has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and learn > how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this > approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like it was > developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have devices > that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head > in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones > assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any > setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address book in minutes. The > speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using an HTC 4200, when I got > it it was considered fast. The speech delay was awful and navigation was > painful. I have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much > more, however it cost around 6200. and the company will not open the > environment for development. I have been pa rousing the app store and I can > replace every application pick up a braille display and still not reach that > cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases > they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is > not accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your > purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that > when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for > the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will get old quickly. > Thank you all for your help. > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying text from Safari
Sometimes the vo return work on some sights and sometimes it does not. I really don't know why but that can also work in documents and emails as well. S On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Gary, > > To copy text from Safari, interact with the text you wish to copy, then press > VO-Return at the beginning of the section you wish to copy, and VO-Return at > the end. Command-C should then copy the selected text. > > Another way is to make VO speak the text you want then press VO-Shift-C to > copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 12 Jan 2011, at 22:56, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to copy a line of text from Safari into the clipboard? >> >> I keep having this problem, today, I was on Google code and wanted to copy >> just my generated password from the page. >> >> If I interact with the element, I don't seem to be able to select and copy >> text like you can with jaws when browsing. >> >> The only reliable way I've found to do this is to copy the whole page into >> text edit and then copy what I want from there. Not ideal if, for example, >> you're reading a book online with sample code that you need to grab and use. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading all in pages
Hello Gary, For the Read All command to start from your current location, you have to interact with the body text. Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 22:10, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > OK, so I have a different but related problem. > > I just bought pages the other day. When I try to read all, it always seems to > start from the beginning of the file not from where the cursor is. > > Anyone got any thoughts on that one? I've only tried it with .doc file that > I've opened which were originally written using MS word, not sure that makes > any difference. > > Thanks > On 11 Jan 2011, at 01:27, Laura Bratton wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Rafaela Freundt wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> You have to first interact with the text and then press vo a, then it will >>> read to the bottom of the document. >>> >>> hth, >>> >>> Rafaela Freundt >>> >>> E-mail/MSN: rafafreu...@gmail.com >>> >>> Skype: rafafreundt >>> >>> El 09/01/2011, a las 18:55, Laura Bratton escribió: >>> Hi All, When I press VO A in pages it will read down to the bottom of that page. How do I change the settings so that I can read the whole document? Thanks, laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hello Az, When your keyboard is set to Russian, treat the keys as though they were set to English when using VO commands. Don't forget to tell Accessibility about this problem. Are you aware that Russian Braille is available? You can download the multi-lingual Braille package from: Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 20:39, AZ wrote: > Hi/ > > Yes, i'm using a russian layout and english too. On the english all works, in > russian almost nothing. And i can not use the russian layout when trying to > search something by "Ctrl+Option+f" > AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying text from Safari
Hello Gary, To copy text from Safari, interact with the text you wish to copy, then press VO-Return at the beginning of the section you wish to copy, and VO-Return at the end. Command-C should then copy the selected text. Another way is to make VO speak the text you want then press VO-Shift-C to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 22:56, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to copy a line of text from Safari into the clipboard? > > I keep having this problem, today, I was on Google code and wanted to copy > just my generated password from the page. > > If I interact with the element, I don't seem to be able to select and copy > text like you can with jaws when browsing. > > The only reliable way I've found to do this is to copy the whole page into > text edit and then copy what I want from there. Not ideal if, for example, > you're reading a book online with sample code that you need to grab and use. > > Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple Seeds iOS 4.3 Beta to Developers
Will these features enhance accessibility and productivity for the consumer? read more: http://bit.ly/fmJNjY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Apps on IOS4 Devices
Thanks very much, Rafaela. :) Teresa On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > try www.applevis.com. > > It has an app directory with lots of different categories, where people > review apps they find accessible or they don't. there is a huge list of games > there. > > hth, > > Rafaela Freundt > > E-mail/MSN: rafafreu...@gmail.com > > Skype: rafafreundt > > El 12/01/2011, a las 13:16, Teresa Cochran escribió: > >> Hi, all, >> >> I guess today's my day for stirring the pot by starting some threads on this >> list. :) Anyhow, I'd like to know if Apple or anyone else might have started >> a listing of accessible apps for Ipod/iPad/Iphone. I'm particularly >> interested in games, but would love to see what else might be accessible. >> Could folks chime in here and tell me what they have found to be accessible? >> >> Thanks, >> Teresa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
Ah, ok, I just wanted to know the scope of this problem. I'm willing to work around it for now. Thanks, Teresa On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Erik, > I have the same problem with the bc40! > I am told by Handytech that if I pay $300 I can get the braillino to pair > successfully. I am reluctant to take that risk. > I am told the Refreshabraille will pair with the iphone. So it should do so > with the ipod touch. I am skeptical. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch > > >> Hi, My Ituch is doing this and I'm a bit let down about it. Most things do >> pare automaticly once you get them going the first time. Not so my braille >> connect and my ITouch. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >> 1-888-255-5194 >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2011-01-12, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Hi, folk, >>> >>> It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it >>> with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this >>> once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch >>> keyboard, it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired >>> every time they are used with IOS4? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Teresa >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
but th etell statement is only 1 line though. Ah well. I'll try it. Nope now i got this. Expected end of line, etc. but found “end tell”. Here is the script. tell application "skype" to activate end tell do shell script ./clisk I know I'm getting close and I won't give up. It's all part of the learning process. lol! SOn Jan 12, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Usually when you compile or run a script, you have to vo left then right to > get back to the source editor. It's an annoying bug i know but this is how i > circumvent it. > > On the script error, try two tiered scripting > > Tell application "skype" > Activate > End tell > > Then write your do shell script > > > Hope this helps > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Copying text from Safari
Hi Gary! I do not know if this will work or that you have already tried it! When your on that text and it is highlighted open vo+shift+m to see if you have a copy option there and if you have you should be sorted! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 12 Jan 2011, at 21:56, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to copy a line of text from Safari into the clipboard? > > I keep having this problem, today, I was on Google code and wanted to copy > just my generated password from the page. > > If I interact with the element, I don't seem to be able to select and copy > text like you can with jaws when browsing. > > The only reliable way I've found to do this is to copy the whole page into > text edit and then copy what I want from there. Not ideal if, for example, > you're reading a book online with sample code that you need to grab and use. > > Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Usually when you compile or run a script, you have to vo left then right to get back to the source editor. It's an annoying bug i know but this is how i circumvent it. On the script error, try two tiered scripting Tell application "skype" Activate End tell Then write your do shell script Hope this helps -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Copying text from Safari
Can anyone tell me how to copy a line of text from Safari into the clipboard? I keep having this problem, today, I was on Google code and wanted to copy just my generated password from the page. If I interact with the element, I don't seem to be able to select and copy text like you can with jaws when browsing. The only reliable way I've found to do this is to copy the whole page into text edit and then copy what I want from there. Not ideal if, for example, you're reading a book online with sample code that you need to grab and use. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Ok got the same error but this time voice over said this tell application "skype" to activate . is selected Note there is no period in the text of my script so I dunno what's going on. Here is th script wiht otu the try statement. tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end tell I've gone thorugh every step but dunno why this won't work. I hear skype starting but the script barfs before the do shell script command. I can't even save my changes for this reason. I have to eep a back up in text edit. Growl! Ok what now? S On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > try omitting the try block and put everything in the tell block instead to > see. > > Which editor are you working with? xcode or applescript editor? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
I'm working wiht apple script editor but for some reason I have to quit and reopen it as it wont' let me error away when I comand tab away from and back to it. I wish there were a save with out compile! Growl! On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > try omitting the try block and put everything in the tell block instead to > see. > > Which editor are you working with? xcode or applescript editor? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
Hello Erik, I have the same problem with the bc40! I am told by Handytech that if I pay $300 I can get the braillino to pair successfully. I am reluctant to take that risk. I am told the Refreshabraille will pair with the iphone. So it should do so with the ipod touch. I am skeptical. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch Hi, My Ituch is doing this and I'm a bit let down about it. Most things do pare automaticly once you get them going the first time. Not so my braille connect and my ITouch. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-01-12, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch keyboard, it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired every time they are used with IOS4? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
try omitting the try block and put everything in the tell block instead to see. Which editor are you working with? xcode or applescript editor? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Nope I got this error again. Expected end of line, etc. but found unknown token. the try was highlighted but voice over said try period is selected. There is no period at the end of my try line. lol! Take care all and sorry for all of this. On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Checked your script and the end tell closing block for skype is missing > > Here is how i see it > > try > tell application "skype" to activate > do shell script ./clisk > end tell > end try > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Hmm. I'm still learning. lol! I should know some of this as I used to script for another platform. I was not very good at it but ah well. I'll try it. thanks. On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Checked your script and the end tell closing block for skype is missing > > Here is how i see it > > try > tell application "skype" to activate > do shell script ./clisk > end tell > end try > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
Hi Sarah, Checked your script and the end tell closing block for skype is missing Here is how i see it try tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end tell end try -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading all in pages
OK, so I have a different but related problem. I just bought pages the other day. When I try to read all, it always seems to start from the beginning of the file not from where the cursor is. Anyone got any thoughts on that one? I've only tried it with .doc file that I've opened which were originally written using MS word, not sure that makes any difference. Thanks On 11 Jan 2011, at 01:27, Laura Bratton wrote: > Hi, > > Rafaela Freundt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> You have to first interact with the text and then press vo a, then it will >> read to the bottom of the document. >> >> hth, >> >> Rafaela Freundt >> >> E-mail/MSN: rafafreu...@gmail.com >> >> Skype: rafafreundt >> >> El 09/01/2011, a las 18:55, Laura Bratton escribió: >> >>> Hi All, >>> When I press VO A in pages it will read down to the bottom of that page. >>> How do I change the settings so that I can read the whole document? >>> Thanks, >>> laura >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a question about apple scripting
No I looked. Here is the script. I'm confused as to why the error accured. try tell application "skype" to activate do shell script ./clisk end try On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > You probably have an extra character in the Try. I generally interact with > the error message and find the quoted text of what it found and then single > character through that. > > Jon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
Hi, My Ituch is doing this and I'm a bit let down about it. Most things do pare automaticly once you get them going the first time. Not so my braille connect and my ITouch. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-01-12, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, folk, > > It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it > with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this > once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch keyboard, > it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired every time > they are used with IOS4? > > Thanks, > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Airport Express question
Listers, Can a Airport Express connect directly into a modem (not a router) and provide internet connection wirelessly or does it have to connect through a router? Thanks in advance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Normally, as this is not a mac-related topic, I would not chime in to comment on such. However, here we go: A mod note on this very issue has already been posted, implying (pretty directly, by my interpretation of the message) that this topic be closed for any further discussion. I would not be surprised if there is another before long, the next probably not being so forgiving. We all have our various opinions on the subject--and this list doesn't exist as a forum for convincing people. It is highly unlikely that anyone will be convinced by anybody else's writing on the subject, especially as very few of us know one another and are completely anonymous. This can be read about elsewhere on the internet. The point is that no matter how much bickering one does regarding cursing on this list, nobody will change their opinion. So, the solution is obvious--just cease discussing it at all. The words have already flown and discussing it won't change it. People curse--occasionally they do it in inappropriate situation; this is no different. This isn't any kind of new development being discussed--it's a small issue that is being gone over more thoroughly than the global warming debate in a left-right wing shoot-out. It's not worth the bandwidth, it's off-topic, and the same things are being said over and over. Rather than trying to convince one another (which, I repeat, cannot be done through this medium of anonymous written communication), just agree that we each think differently and drop this topic. I would even be up to a windows vs. Mac debate as opposed to this petty nonsense. I feel as if I am wasting my time even writing this email to mention it; I have my own opinion on the issue, and I appreciate the efforts to educate others on the list, but it's a pointless endeavor which will only waste the time of those more patient on this list--and I count myself among those numbers. At some point in time, I might have indulged my opinion and attempted to "bring people to the light", but you can't save the world every time. I enjoy this list for the intelligence and innovation it yields, not its admittedly equal and remarkable ability to dispute etiquette and keep in mind the social welfare of its members. Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Colin M Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Colin M Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple Hi there! Well Scott you put your case pretty well! And shock horror no bad words! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 12 Jan 2011, at 19:28, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Scott G: > You are a true asset here. But, you already know that. Can't we just agree > to have different opinions? If you really need to win this one, I'd hate to > see you go. But, perhaps you want to run your own list and keep it as loose > as you so desire. > > I beg the mods' pardon for butting in. But, I would guess we all have better > things to do than read poopy language and argue about what constitutes poopy > language. > > Go fly your plane and curse at the top of your lungs if you like. Just don't > do it here. > Thanks you for reading. > > Carolyn H > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want >> reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral >> high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as >> a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If >> this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >> >> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the >> air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits >> that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to >> content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest >> order. >> >> Heh >> >> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of >> silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community >> lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper >> right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your >> pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express >> themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >> >> Good times! >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only sta
RE: the topic of bad language posts
Agreed!!! http://www.c-harrington.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: the topic of bad language posts I am just wondering how long is this topic going to keep going? What does it have to do with the purpose of the list? What does it have to do with the mac and voiceover? I was just wondering if the monitors can simplely remove the fokes who are using bad language and just have a 0 tolerance policy. So we won't have to keep going like the energizer bunny. It is just that I receive a lot of e-mails in my in box and I don't need anymore that are off topic. I really enjoy this list when it is on topic and have gained a lot of imformation. I really appreciated the eforts of the monitors who have taken it upon themselves to start this list. Please folks return to the original topic of discussing the mac and voiceover. Heather - Original Message - From: "Marc Workman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > Scott asked, > What's reasonable, who's definition of language? > > Marc says, > The communities definition, the moderators definition, the definition of > the wider society. > > Scott asked, > Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use > some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to > submission? > > Marc asks, > why do you insist on calling others names because they don't share your > opinion on this subject? I use offensive language all the time, but this > doesn't mean that it is appropriate in all situations. You don't have to > be a prude to think that swearing in front of a child, or on a bus, or on > this list is inappropriate. > > Scott asked, > What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience > as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? > If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? > > Marc says, > It's a good thing we're not talking about the indiosyncratic linguistic > preferences of a single person because then you might actually have a > point. We're talking about linguistic standards that shift over time and > are nagotiated through social dialogue, not one single person's feelings > towards a couple of words. > > Scott said, > At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over > the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed > suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects > to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the > highest order. > > Marc says, > again with the name calling. You clearly don't understand the opposing > position on this issue. I would urge you to take some time to reread the > posts and think about what is being said. > > Scott said, > Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community > lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper > right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get > your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to > express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that > mumbo jumbo. > > Marc says, > If we were talking about silencing a controversial idea, simply because it > was controversial, I, and I'm sure many others, would totally agree. > We're not talking about silencing a different opinion, a minority > position, or anything like that, despite your attempts to suggest that is > what's going on. We're talking about avoiding language that is generally > considered offensive. It's really not a difficult request to comply with, > especially when writing as opposed to speaking, where things tend to slip > out unintentionally. > > Best, > > Marc > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Granados" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple > > > What's reasonable, who's definition of language? > > Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? > > What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience > as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? > If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? > > At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over > the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed > suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects > to content
the topic of bad language posts
I am just wondering how long is this topic going to keep going? What does it have to do with the purpose of the list? What does it have to do with the mac and voiceover? I was just wondering if the monitors can simplely remove the fokes who are using bad language and just have a 0 tolerance policy. So we won't have to keep going like the energizer bunny. It is just that I receive a lot of e-mails in my in box and I don't need anymore that are off topic. I really enjoy this list when it is on topic and have gained a lot of imformation. I really appreciated the eforts of the monitors who have taken it upon themselves to start this list. Please folks return to the original topic of discussing the mac and voiceover. Heather - Original Message - From: "Marc Workman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple Scott asked, What's reasonable, who's definition of language? Marc says, The communities definition, the moderators definition, the definition of the wider society. Scott asked, Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? Marc asks, why do you insist on calling others names because they don't share your opinion on this subject? I use offensive language all the time, but this doesn't mean that it is appropriate in all situations. You don't have to be a prude to think that swearing in front of a child, or on a bus, or on this list is inappropriate. Scott asked, What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? Marc says, It's a good thing we're not talking about the indiosyncratic linguistic preferences of a single person because then you might actually have a point. We're talking about linguistic standards that shift over time and are nagotiated through social dialogue, not one single person's feelings towards a couple of words. Scott said, At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. Marc says, again with the name calling. You clearly don't understand the opposing position on this issue. I would urge you to take some time to reread the posts and think about what is being said. Scott said, Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. Marc says, If we were talking about silencing a controversial idea, simply because it was controversial, I, and I'm sure many others, would totally agree. We're not talking about silencing a different opinion, a minority position, or anything like that, despite your attempts to suggest that is what's going on. We're talking about avoiding language that is generally considered offensive. It's really not a difficult request to comply with, especially when writing as opposed to speaking, where things tend to slip out unintentionally. Best, Marc - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple What's reasonable, who's definition of language? Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. Heh Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hi/ Yes, i'm using a russian layout and english too. On the english all works, in russian almost nothing. And i can not use the russian layout when trying to search something by "Ctrl+Option+f" AZ 12.01.2011 21:23, Anne Robertson пишет: Hello Az, I'm afraid I don't understand what you're doing. I use both the British English and the French keyboard layout with no trouble at all. Are you using a layout that has a completely different character set such as greek or Russian? If so, I'll try to look into your problem. Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 18:09, AZ wrote: Hi. Using Windows and Jaws i frequently press "Ctrl+f" to find necessary word on a page. I know, the same feature exists in Voice Over search, "VO+f", but once i press this combination i cann't switch between languages to choose an other one. VoiceOver says that this combination is not supported here, once i switch the needed language before this combination i cann't call search feature because combinations in Mac OS X work only in english layout. Maybe someone has an advice? Thanks AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Hi there! Well Scott you put your case pretty well! And shock horror no bad words! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 12 Jan 2011, at 19:28, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Scott G: > You are a true asset here. But, you already know that. Can't we just agree > to have different opinions? If you really need to win this one, I'd hate to > see you go. But, perhaps you want to run your own list and keep it as loose > as you so desire. > > I beg the mods' pardon for butting in. But, I would guess we all have better > things to do than read poopy language and argue about what constitutes poopy > language. > > Go fly your plane and curse at the top of your lungs if you like. Just don't > do it here. > Thanks you for reading. > > Carolyn H > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> What's reasonable, who's definition of language? >> >> Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want >> reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral >> high ground to brow beat others in to submission? >> >> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as >> a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If >> this is acceptable then where does that logic end? >> >> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the >> air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits >> that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to >> content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest >> order. >> >> Heh >> >> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of >> silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community >> lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper >> right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your >> pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express >> themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. >> >> Good times! >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status >>> those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests >>> regarding language. >>> >>> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with >>> anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Scott asked, What's reasonable, who's definition of language? Marc says, The communities definition, the moderators definition, the definition of the wider society. Scott asked, Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? Marc asks, why do you insist on calling others names because they don't share your opinion on this subject? I use offensive language all the time, but this doesn't mean that it is appropriate in all situations. You don't have to be a prude to think that swearing in front of a child, or on a bus, or on this list is inappropriate. Scott asked, What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? Marc says, It's a good thing we're not talking about the indiosyncratic linguistic preferences of a single person because then you might actually have a point. We're talking about linguistic standards that shift over time and are nagotiated through social dialogue, not one single person's feelings towards a couple of words. Scott said, At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. Marc says, again with the name calling. You clearly don't understand the opposing position on this issue. I would urge you to take some time to reread the posts and think about what is being said. Scott said, Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. Marc says, If we were talking about silencing a controversial idea, simply because it was controversial, I, and I'm sure many others, would totally agree. We're not talking about silencing a different opinion, a minority position, or anything like that, despite your attempts to suggest that is what's going on. We're talking about avoiding language that is generally considered offensive. It's really not a difficult request to comply with, especially when writing as opposed to speaking, where things tend to slip out unintentionally. Best, Marc - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple What's reasonable, who's definition of language? Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. Heh Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. Good times! On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding language. Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To p
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
Hi Scott G: You are a true asset here. But, you already know that. Can't we just agree to have different opinions? If you really need to win this one, I'd hate to see you go. But, perhaps you want to run your own list and keep it as loose as you so desire. I beg the mods' pardon for butting in. But, I would guess we all have better things to do than read poopy language and argue about what constitutes poopy language. Go fly your plane and curse at the top of your lungs if you like. Just don't do it here. Thanks you for reading. Carolyn H On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > What's reasonable, who's definition of language? > > Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? > > What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as > a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If > this is acceptable then where does that logic end? > > At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the > air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that > seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content > that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. > > Heh > > Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community > lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper > right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your > pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express > themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. > > Good times! > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those >> persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding >> language. >> >> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with >> anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about searching from within folders
Hi Ricardo: I tried doing that with spotlight, and got exactly nowhere. Don't know why, though.:) Carolyn H On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Wow! > > using spotlight sounds a whole lot faster and easier. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: > >> 1. Open the folder >> 2. Hit command-option F to put the cursor in the find selector >> 3. Enter Sour cream >> 4. Stop Interacting with the tool bar >> 5. Hit VO-Right three times >> 6. You should be on a radio button that says "This Mac" >> 7. One more VO-RIght and you will be on recipes. Hit this radio button 8. >> Now continue until you find the standard Finder sub-windows... >> >> Best of luck, >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Lynn Schneider wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn. Actually, what I was hoping was that it could search the >>> contents of the recipes in a certain folder for this one ingredient. In >>> some recipes, sour cream isn't in the file name itself, so was hoping I >>> could get it to search the contents. I could do this on Windows quite >>> easily, so am hoping for a way to do it on Mac, or maybe a program that I >>> could download that will do this for me. >>> >>> Thanks so much for your help. >>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Lynn: Try interacting with the recipes folder. Then use item chooser (vo-i) and put in sour cream. Hope that helps. Carolyn H On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Lynn Schneider wrote: > I thought I was opening a container of rice pudding, but instead opened a > container of sour cream. I knew I had some recipes on my Mac that > contained sour cream, so, not wanting to waste the sour cream, thought > I'd bring them up and find one but just cannot figure out how to do it. > My recipes are all in a folder called recipes in my documents folder. I > first opened my recipes folder, then used option-F to bring up the find > dialog and typed in sour cream in the search box, but I can't figure out > how to make it just search the recipes folder and not the whole entire > hard drive. I know how to do it in Windows, but not sure on the Mac > side. Any help would be most gratefully appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Lynn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
Hi Scott: I just reread your post. I thought you meant lock the orietnation in portrait mode. If you meant the other, pardon. Also, I believe what you want is in settings under mail. Turn on push notification, which is a toggle. It may result in slightly poorer battery life. Carolyn On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: > Hi, > > That's interesting. I use the same method when typing, where I keep one > finger on the screen, stop when I reach the letter I want, and just tap the > phone with another finger. > > If you want to change the typing mode, when you are in a message, change the > rotor to the left until it says "typing mode." Now if you flick down, it will > toggle between "standard typing" and "touch typing." "Touch typing" is the > setting where the key is entered when your finger is lifted from it. > > Yes, you can lock the screen. It is on the top of the phone, to the right of > the headphone jack. The phone by default locks automatically after one > minute, but I disabled that setting. Check out the screen lock setting under > general in settings. > > If you want to delete mail instead of archive, go to Setting > Mail, > Contacts, Calendars > Gmail > Archive Messages. If you double tap archive > messages, it will turn it off. > > I agree that the iPhone is amazing. I've never seen any device that has been > so accessible. It seems that as a rule, things that are made for blind people > are (1) really expensive and (2) use proprietary formats, so they can't > interface with other devices very well. > > Brandon > On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the >> keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. >> Is this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found >> that the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life >> of me find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the >> setting? I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason >> that one would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I >> saved it however I cannot find it. >> Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail >> message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that >> post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail >> application running in the background and switch to other applications or >> just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b >> my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA >> has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and >> learn how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken >> this approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like >> it was developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have >> devices that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes >> their head in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally >> independent of anyones assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did >> not have to do any setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address >> book in minutes. The speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using >> an HTC 4200, when I got it it was considered fast. The speech delay was >> awful and navigation was painful. I have a device that is a very powerful >> PDA and could be so much more, however it cost around 6200. and the company >> will not open the environment for development. I have been pa rousing the >> app store and I can replace every application pick up a braille display and >> still not reach that cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, >> however in most cases they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one >> buys an app and it is not accessible you can go to the mac store and they >> will refund your purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology >> company doing that when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that >> we had intended for the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will >> get old quickly. >> Thank you all for your help. >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Brandon Olivares > www.thefulleffect.org - Healing the Whole Person > I help people to experience healing on all levels, and to choose a path that > is fulfilling for them. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the G
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
Hello Scott F: You raise some very valid points. And we're making accessibility progress faster than ever before. I started out as a split-typist as you are now. Then Touch came along, and I find it much quicker. When you're somewhere that has a texting field, you can perform a roter gesture, (like turning an imaginary dial on the screen) Then flick your finger I think up, or perhaps across to find typing mode. Select touchtyping twith a double tapo try that . way. To change from archiving Google message to deleting them, go to settings, then mail. Select your gmail account, and underneath the account name, you'll find the account name, followed by mail, (toggle on and off), calendar, notes and then archive: another toggle. Turn archive off and you'll have regular delete available. Finally, Orientation lock is to stop the phone from sensing when you turn it to a landscape, (like a book) position. It reorients the screen according to how it perceives your needs. This can be annoying when you're trying for exanple to write while in a car.:) So, if you want to lock it, double tap the home button to bring up app switcher. Take 3 fingers and flick across the screen to the right. which will bring you to page 2. Then flick with one finger Now flick right with one finger. It'll say .lock orientation changes, or unlock orientation changes. Hth and happy iPhoning.:) Carolyn H On Jan 12, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello everyone, > I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the > keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. Is > this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found that > the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life of me > find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the setting? > I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one > would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I saved it > however I cannot find it. > Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail > message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that > post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail > application running in the background and switch to other applications or > just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b >my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA > has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and learn > how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this > approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like it was > developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have devices > that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head > in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones > assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any > setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address book in minutes. The > speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using an HTC 4200, when I got > it it was considered fast. The speech delay was awful and navigation was > painful. I have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much > more, however it cost around 6200. and the company will not open the > environment for development. I have been pa rousing the app store and I can > replace every application pick up a braille display and still not reach that > cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases > they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is > not accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your > purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that > when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for > the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will get old quickly. > Thank you all for your help. > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Uninstalling VoxKeys
I need to get rid of the program; there is no possible way I can pay for the license for QuickKeys, so best for now not to have either. Where do I look to delete the files? Perhaps at a later point, I'll manage to buy QuickKeys, and then who knows? Till then ... Jane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Apps on IOS4 Devices
try www.applevis.com. It has an app directory with lots of different categories, where people review apps they find accessible or they don't. there is a huge list of games there. hth, Rafaela Freundt E-mail/MSN: rafafreu...@gmail.com Skype: rafafreundt El 12/01/2011, a las 13:16, Teresa Cochran escribió: > Hi, all, > > I guess today's my day for stirring the pot by starting some threads on this > list. :) Anyhow, I'd like to know if Apple or anyone else might have started > a listing of accessible apps for Ipod/iPad/Iphone. I'm particularly > interested in games, but would love to see what else might be accessible. > Could folks chime in here and tell me what they have found to be accessible? > > Thanks, > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
You areIn a hello,I don't normally comment on things on this list. However I am compelled to comment on this. Let's face it folks the other 75% unemployment rate in the United States. Bad language scares potential employers period so that is not mistaken that there is no possibility of misinterpretation as the list moderator has said we don't know who's reading this. Let me also tell you that lists like this are archived in many different places. When you go to look for employment employers look at this list if there's bad language you can cost people jobs and that only 30% of blind Americans working in this country I implore you to please do not use inappropriate and nonprofessional language. Because it will cost somebody a job and I don't think that the participants and listless want to be having somebody on SSI SSP I and other government support programs for the rest of their lives simply because somebody doesn't know how to treat people with common respect and refrain from inappropriate language. In short I agree with the moderator, let's knock it off. To say that this thread disturbs me in many different ways, would be an understatement. Let's move on. I'm not a moderator, but if we're interested in all getting out there, and getting meaningful positions of employment for those of us were not working, using the target language is imperative. Thank you very much for reading this. PS, I am using dictation software. As my tagline says some words they actually come out and appropriately. However I think that you can get the inference of what I am saying. I will not comment any further on this subject. On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > What's reasonable, who's definition of language? > > Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want > reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral > high ground to brow beat others in to submission? > > What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as > a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If > this is acceptable then where does that logic end? > > At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the > air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that > seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content > that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. > > Heh > > Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of > silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community > lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper > right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your > pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express > themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. > > Good times! > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those >> persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding >> language. >> >> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with >> anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > maurice amateur radio call sign,kd0iko. national Federation of the blind of Cole Rondo assisted newsline coordinator, office phone 970. 373-3076 Northern Colorado amateur radio club tried Vander, newsletter editor. University of Northern Colorado student e-mail address , mine1...@bears.unco.edu. note this message has been dictate by using MacSpeech dictate, Some words may be spelled incorrectl, may also be in the wrong context. Please forgive any errors in the text of this communication. Thank you very much forreading this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisi
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
What's reasonable, who's definition of language? Why does your definition superseed mine? Why do prudes always want reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral high ground to brow beat others in to submission? What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano? If this is acceptable then where does that logic end? At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the air transmition. Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest order. Heh Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing. Instead of silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper right of your keyboard? Nobody loses in that situation. You don't get your pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express themselves. Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo. Good times! On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those > persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding > language. > > Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with > anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
Here Here Scott! There has been a definite movement towards more off the shelf technology recently and this can only be a good thing for our community. Apple really is a good example of accessibility done well. I hope Apple and others go with this company policy and put real pressure on the freedom scientifics and similar of the world. On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello everyone, > I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the > keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. Is > this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found that > the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life of me > find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the setting? > I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one > would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I saved it > however I cannot find it. > Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail > message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that > post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail > application running in the background and switch to other applications or > just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b >my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA > has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and learn > how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this > approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like it was > developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have devices > that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head > in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones > assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any > setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address book in minutes. The > speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using an HTC 4200, when I got > it it was considered fast. The speech delay was awful and navigation was > painful. I have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much > more, however it cost around 6200. and the company will not open the > environment for development. I have been pa rousing the app store and I can > replace every application pick up a braille display and still not reach that > cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases > they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is > not accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your > purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that > when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for > the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will get old quickly. > Thank you all for your help. > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hello Az, I'm afraid I don't understand what you're doing. I use both the British English and the French keyboard layout with no trouble at all. Are you using a layout that has a completely different character set such as greek or Russian? If so, I'll try to look into your problem. Cheers, Anne On 12 Jan 2011, at 18:09, AZ wrote: > Hi. > > Using Windows and Jaws i frequently press "Ctrl+f" to find necessary word on > a page. I know, the same feature exists in Voice Over search, "VO+f", but > once i press this combination i cann't switch between languages to choose an > other one. VoiceOver says that this combination is not supported here, once i > switch the needed language before this combination i cann't call search > feature because combinations in Mac OS X work only in english layout. Maybe > someone has an advice? > Thanks > >AZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible Apps on IOS4 Devices
Hi, all, I guess today's my day for stirring the pot by starting some threads on this list. :) Anyhow, I'd like to know if Apple or anyone else might have started a listing of accessible apps for Ipod/iPad/Iphone. I'm particularly interested in games, but would love to see what else might be accessible. Could folks chime in here and tell me what they have found to be accessible? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone and iPOD Touch differences?
Right, the peal is GSM only. On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't seen anywhere that the apple peal is supported by sprint. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> and now from sprint there is I believe it's called the apple peal and it >> will run on the 3g network. Not sure if that's a good thing but maybe >> there's a bt adapter for headphones someday. >> >> s >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> The ipod touch does not work wth bluetooth gps receivers unfortunately, I >>> wish it did. It will run all the same apps. Like you said, the camera is >>> better, there are accessories you can get to allow the ipod touch to work >>> with GPS, not sure how well they work though. >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: >>> Hi all, I'm curious what you all know about the differences between the iPhone4 and the iPod touch, other than the obvious phone capabilities of course. I've had my eye on the iPhone since shortly after getting a mac, and as anyone following me on twitter could tell you I kept a close eye on any rumors about when it would get to Verizon. Strangely, now that Verizon has finally made it official, I'm suddenly not sure. The idea of adding another $30 to my bill for a smartphone data plan is a little hard to swallow. From what I can tell, the iPod touch can run all of the same apps, and I'm satisfied with a phone that places calls and does text messaging. Of course the touch can only use wifi, but if I'm away from a wifi connection, I'm probably quite busy doing something and don't need those distractions anyway. From what I have been able to gather, the phone has a far better camera, which is only compelling if there is a great OCR app available to use it with. More important is that the iPOD doesn't appear to have GPS functionality. One would hope that standard bluetooth GPS receivers would work with the touch and allow the use of apps such as Navigon. If not, it would seem odd if there wasn't a GPS receiver among the hundreds of add-ons designed specifically for the iPOD touch. Does anyone know if this is possible? Other than these, what other differences have you guys noticed? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
I bet if it's in there there will be a way to activate it. Just like the old tethering on the windows phones. On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > The article is about mobile hotspots. It doesn't mention tethering. It says > Mobile hotspot will be coming in IOS 4.3. But it will be carrier specific. > So ATT can still shut it down. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. but >> if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ >> >> read more if you can: >> >> http://dlvr.it/D7KPM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Papa Sangre: Anyone Finish This Game, and What Do You Think?
Hi, all, Personally, I loved the game; one of the best I've ever played on any platform. I still play the levels I like most, or try and see how much I can play nonstop when I'm on the bus. BTW, for those who don't know, this is a game for IOS4 on the mobile devices. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple to add Wi-Fi hotspot to GSM iPhone with iOS 4.3 - rumor
Thether is in the menu but you need to activate the service with your carrier I believe. It should say something about contacting ATT. As for unlocked, no you need to have the phone unlocked if that's possible. I do not have a good handle on the procedure yet. Thanks Scott On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello, > I just received a new Iphon from the VA yesterday and I saw that it had > tethering in one of the menus. Does this mean that if I started to use it I > would be charged an extra 30 a month? Am I correct in believing that since > the VA purchased the phone straight from apple without a plan that the phone > is unlocked. My wife was telling me that before I went and got a sim card > for the phone all kinds of launges were scrolling accross the screen. I > would kind of like to know if it is unlocked. Thank you for any help. > Scott > > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> sure, give me a minute. will want to clean up all the stuff at the top. >> Karen >> >> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually it's 30 not 20 according to what a rep told me. but yeah can you >>> copy the article in case others of us saw just the slash link? >>> >>> S >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> I could read it fine, and will copy if others cannot. apparently this feature is only available if the carrier offers it. at&T does not on the personal level, its an extra $20. Since the feature is already built into the new verizon phone, they must plan to offer it for free, its in the settings menu and can just be turned on or off. Or so I gathered from a fast read lol. Karen On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I could not read the article as all it shows is a link coded as slash. > but if this happens will we not have to pay for tethering for at&t or VZ > > read more if you can: > > http://dlvr.it/D7KPM > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Braille Display Won't Stay Paired With My IPod Touch
Hi, folk, It seems that I have to pair my Focus 40 Blue every time I want to use it with the IPod. I was under the impression that I would only need to do this once. Although I'm getting better at entering the pin via the touch keyboard, it's still kind of a pain. Do bluetooth devices need to be paired every time they are used with IOS4? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
1. I prefer touch typing, and I suspect most users do, though I'm sure there are those that prefer the standard method. To switch to touch typing: use the roter to select typing method. Put two fingers on the screen and rotate them either clockwise or counterclockwise until you hear voiceover say typing method. Lift your two fingers, and then swipe up or down with a single finger until you hear VO say touch typing. You are now using touch typing. Note that certain keys, e.g., shift, delete, return, etc, will still require you to select them using the standard method. 2. I keep the orientation locked all the time. The main reason is that I don't like VO to interupt and tell me that it has switched orientations whenever I sit down or when the phone shifts while in my pocket. I also have never found a need to use landscape mode. To lock orientation: press the home button twice to go to the app switcher. Use three fingers to swipe in a horizontal motion from left to right. Flick around until you find the lock orientation changes button. Double tap that button. You've now locked the orientation. 3. I don't use gmail on the phone so cannot help here. Lastly, I only mention this in case you're not aware. You can search the archives to find posts you may have discarded. I used to keep every post that I thought might come in handy some time down the road. Now I delete them knowing that if I have a related question, I can go to the archives and find the answer. To get to the archives, just do a google search for the viphone googlegroup. I use these so often that I have bookmarked them. Then I go to the site, type in my search terms, and can usually find what I'm looking for. It can some times be difficult to find specific things, but I also often end up finding things I wasn't particularly looking for. Best, Marc - Original Message - From: "Scott Ford" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two. Hello everyone, I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. Is this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found that the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life of me find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the setting? I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I saved it however I cannot find it. Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail application running in the background and switch to other applications or just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and learn how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like it was developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have devices that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address book in minutes. The speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using an HTC 4200, when I got it it was considered fast. The speech delay was awful and navigation was painful. I have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much more, however it cost around 6200. and the company will not open the environment for development. I have been pa rousing the app store and I can replace every application pick up a braille display and still not reach that cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is not accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will get old quickly. Thank you all for your help. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Yo
Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests regarding language. Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New to the iphon intrested in opinions and have a question or two.
Hi, That's interesting. I use the same method when typing, where I keep one finger on the screen, stop when I reach the letter I want, and just tap the phone with another finger. If you want to change the typing mode, when you are in a message, change the rotor to the left until it says "typing mode." Now if you flick down, it will toggle between "standard typing" and "touch typing." "Touch typing" is the setting where the key is entered when your finger is lifted from it. Yes, you can lock the screen. It is on the top of the phone, to the right of the headphone jack. The phone by default locks automatically after one minute, but I disabled that setting. Check out the screen lock setting under general in settings. If you want to delete mail instead of archive, go to Setting > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Gmail > Archive Messages. If you double tap archive messages, it will turn it off. I agree that the iPhone is amazing. I've never seen any device that has been so accessible. It seems that as a rule, things that are made for blind people are (1) really expensive and (2) use proprietary formats, so they can't interface with other devices very well. Brandon On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello everyone, > I have been learning my iphone for the last day or two. I am using the > keyboard in the touch and then tap with another finger to choose an item. Is > this the best way that people have found to type? Or have people found that > the drag and release method to be better? If so I cannot for the life of me > find where that is changed. Could someone tell me how to change the setting? > I saw on the list that one can lock the screen, is there a reason that one > would want to and why? Can someone repost that setting as well? I saved it > however I cannot find it. > Now. I have also saw on the list how to change from archiving gmail > message to deleting them, I saved that as well, however I cannot find that > post either. Can you tell me how? Is there a way to keep the mail > application running in the background and switch to other applications or > just always have it collecting messages? Thank you for your help. b >my opinion and observations. I am a service connected vet and the VA > has spent a lot of money on me for adaptive technology. I sit here and learn > how to use this device and I am amazed that a company has not taken this > approach until now. We have had to endure technology that looks like it was > developed in soviet Russia for so many years. In fact we still have devices > that look and operate this way and cost money that one only shakes their head > in disgust. With this device I can operate it totally independent of anyones > assistance. I plugged it into my computer and I did not have to do any > setup, it just worked. I was syncing with my address book in minutes. The > speech is whip lash fast and responsive. I was using an HTC 4200, when I got > it it was considered fast. The speech delay was awful and navigation was > painful. I have a device that is a very powerful PDA and could be so much > more, however it cost around 6200. and the company will not open the > environment for development. I have been pa rousing the app store and I can > replace every application pick up a braille display and still not reach that > cost. Please keep in mind the apps will differ a bit, however in most cases > they are superior. I was told by a friend that if one buys an app and it is > not accessible you can go to the mac store and they will refund your > purchase. I certain do not see the adaptive technology company doing that > when we discover that we cannot accomplish that task that we had intended for > the machine to do. I could go on and on but this will get old quickly. > Thank you all for your help. > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Brandon Olivares www.thefulleffect.org - Healing the Whole Person I help people to experience healing on all levels, and to choose a path that is fulfilling for them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Non english layouts in VoiceOver search
Hi. Using Windows and Jaws i frequently press "Ctrl+f" to find necessary word on a page. I know, the same feature exists in Voice Over search, "VO+f", but once i press this combination i cann't switch between languages to choose an other one. VoiceOver says that this combination is not supported here, once i switch the needed language before this combination i cann't call search feature because combinations in Mac OS X work only in english layout. Maybe someone has an advice? Thanks AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
