date:20110123

I was groaning whern I read this. read more.

http://bit.ly/dPB5DK

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Re: anyone tried eharmony?

Hello,

I've never used eHarmony but I can tell you that both Match.com and Plenty of 
Fish have great iPhone Apps that are totally accessible.
 Strangely enough, I have yet to surf to any online dating sites via my Mac.  
I'll have to give it a try.

Mark
On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 yes, this is on topic lol.
 Sort of in the same spirit of Carolin's site question at that place that made 
 me hungry...honeybaked I think.
 What is so amazing about eharmony is that no one has not made them fix this 
 already.  One of the reps told me they have had complaints before, and yet on 
 one of the critical sections, the in my own words part of the profile, 
 requires a physical mouse click to submit...no button whatsoever.
 I have tried both lynx as in the cat, and e-links which can usually manage 
 java scripting, but it is a mess.  some links work others do not etc.
 Does not help that the men they are sending are totally wrong for me lol. Or 
 maybe I should be glad since I cannot do much at all.
 if someone wants to really take a look, I may have to share my log in, do not 
 mind for the sake of some wisdom, because  it is amazing .
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Re: anyone tried eharmony?

Wow!  That's great Jim.  I am so happy for you.

I have met some really nice ladies via online dating.

Some turned into rather long-term relationships and some did not but it was/is 
definitely worth the effort.

Mark
On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:

 Wow!  besides, just go outside is a rather insensitive thing to
 say.  I met my wife on E-harmony, and we're very happy together.
 
 Unfortunately, I can't help with the web page issues.  I used it on a
 windows machine, and I'm pretty sure I needed zoomtext to help make it
 work.
 
 Good Luck Karen,
 
 Jim
 
 On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:33:38PM -0800, Scott Granados wrote:
 Just to add to this a little, eharmony was known for being a bad net citizen 
 for a long time.  Lots of problems with spamming and other bad practices.  
 This may have been addressed since but it's something to watch out for.
 
 Besides, just go outside, you'll have better luck.:)  I honestly think 
 you'll have an easier time finding someone your a match with through common 
 activities or interests than website magic.
 
 just my $.02
 
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:16 AM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
 I had trouble with their site because, they give you sliding bars that, you 
 cant select.  Of course, no one ever got back to me, humm.  Heather
 - Original Message - From: Karen Lewellen 
 klewel...@shellworld.net
 To: list voiceover macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 3:51 AM
 Subject: anyone tried eharmony?
 
 
 yes, this is on topic lol.
 Sort of in the same spirit of Carolin's site question at that place that 
 made me hungry...honeybaked I think.
 What is so amazing about eharmony is that no one has not made them fix 
 this already.  One of the reps told me they have had complaints before, 
 and yet on one of the critical sections, the in my own words part of the 
 profile, requires a physical mouse click to submit...no button whatsoever.
 I have tried both lynx as in the cat, and e-links which can usually manage 
 java scripting, but it is a mess.  some links work others do not etc.
 Does not help that the men they are sending are totally wrong for me lol. 
 Or maybe I should be glad since I cannot do much at all.
 if someone wants to really take a look, I may have to share my log in, do 
 not mind for the sake of some wisdom, because  it is amazing .
 Karen
 
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Re: Apple was incorrect about the Audible syncing

2011-01-23 Thread Carolyn

Hi Ray:
I've nmever had audible sync from itunes.  I've always did the copy and paste 
routine.  My guess is this one's the fault of itunes/apple.

Carolyn H
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:38 PM
  Subject: Apple was incorrect about the Audible syncing

  I seem to recall that this morning, someone posted a reply from Apple about 
the Audibleactivate.sys key file.  Apple's reply seemed to imply, as best I 
could understand it, that if one connected the Stream to their Mac, ITunes 
would see it and Sync up with it; and, thus, authorize playback of Audible.com 
books.  It aint so.  I just connected my Stream directly to my Apple Mac book 
pro, and, just as I suspected, ITunes did not see it or try to sync with it.  
It does show up as an extra volume just as if I had inserted the card from it 
in to the reader itself; but, no more.

  Clearly, the Onus is on Humanware to help us with a solution; or so I believe.

  Thoughts?

  Sincerely, 
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

  Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!

  Skype Name:
  barefootedray

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Re: Humanware OCR Product for the Mac?

2011-01-23 Thread Carolyn

Hi Erik:
Thanks for the fair and honest review.  I wondered how you were getting on with 
that product and the mac.

Carolyn H
  - Original Message - 
  From: erik burggraaf 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Humanware OCR Product for the Mac?

  Humanware is reselling the EyePal from ABISee.  I have one here to demo to 
clients and plan to add it to my training equipment.

  On the videos EyePal seems to be instantaneous.  It's not.  They obviously 
did some serious editing on those promos. I'd say it's between 10 and 15 
seconds per capture.  Not slouching along by any means, but not what the promos 
claim by a long shot either.
  The EyePal has very nice batch scanning features.  It converts text to mp3.  
It's got braille support in a limited way but they are going to remove it, 
since they aren't going to develop it anymore.  It comes with scansoft voices 
which I find a shame, but other people will quite like depending on your 
preference.

  On the dark side, the documentation is terrible and contains numerous grammar 
errors if not actual spelling mistakes.  The  braille support is about to die.  
The mac version is basically the windows version running in an emulator.  The 
install is buggy, the performance is slightly degraded, and it's not integrated 
with any of the mack features you know and love such as the ability to import 
directly to ITunes, the ability to choose voices from your mac speech library, 
the ability to navigate with the item chooser and more.

  I have to say, I have very mixed feelings about it.  To be fair, my demo unit 
is the old 3 mpx camera.  If I buy my own demo unit it will be the 5 mpx 
camera.  The price has also come way down.  Hopefully it will follow here in 
canada.  It's really not worth 2 grand.  I'm not even sure it's worth $1200 
unless you are using the batch scanning features, but it does the job in a 
half-baked round about way.

  Best,

  Erik Burggraaf
  User support consultant,
  Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
  1-888-255-5194
  http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

  On 2011-01-22, at 11:52 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

   Hi.  Several months ago, when Humanware's European marketing manager 
visited me here in Vienna, he told me that the company would soon be 
introducing an OCR product that would work with the Mac.  The user would 
purchase a tripod/camera that would connect to the Mac through the USB port and 
pages within a document would be scanned by taking Snapshots.

   The scanning process was very fast, at least under Windows, and I was 
assured that a similar system was almost finished for the Mac.  If anyone has 
tried out the system (I don't even remember what it was called) and would be 
interested in sharing their impressions, it would be most helpful.

   My best to all,

   Mike

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Re: iTunes Question

2011-01-23 Thread Charlie Doremus

I found something like 10 albums and an equal number of songs just by typing 
Josh Groban in the search box using my iPad. Wish I could help you more. 

Go Green Bay!

Aloha, 

Charlie

Our new book YOU MIGHT BE A MORON is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click 
the off the bookshelf link 



On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:14 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wish to purchase a song or an album.  Josh Groban is the artist and I tried 
 doing a search for his offerings using his name, but could not find anything. 
  I suspect I'm missing something here, as he must havbe offerings in the 
 iTunes store?  Thanks for any assistance.
 
 Les
 
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Re: Scanning

2011-01-23 Thread Carolyn

Hi Chris:
Try getting vuescan (around $40.00. It works with Canlon.  You cdan set it to 
send the scanned file to Abbyy.  I'm told that works.  But can't currently 
afford Abbyy.

Carolyn H
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  From: Christopher Peppel 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:15 PM
  Subject: Scanning

  Has anyone found a good scanning solution for the Mac?  I bought Abbyy fine 
reader and couldn't get it to work with theCannon lide 90 scanner.  This is the 
one thing I wish we had on the Mac.  Other then that, I am very happy I bought 
the Mac two years ago and wouldn't change my mind for anything.

  Thanks for any opinions.

  Chris

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Different ways to forward and rewind in iTunes [was Re: Fast forwarding and rewinding in iTunes]

2011-01-23 Thread Esther

Hi Victor,

As stated by many posters, the keyboard shortcuts for fast forwarding and 
rewinding in iTunes are Command+Option+Right and Left Arrow, and you can find 
the list of keyboard shortcuts for iTunes under the Help menu of the iTunes 
menu bar (either VO+M or Control+F2 to move to the menu bar; press H to move 
to the help menu, then arrow down to Keyboard Shortcuts).  If you have an 
Apple keyboard with media control keys, you can also use the F7, F8, and F9 
keys to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward.  Depending on how your keyboard 
is configured in System Preferences, you may need to hold down an Fn key with 
these keys.  You can also control fast forward and rewind with an Apple Remote, 
such as is supplied with the Apple TV (and which used to be packaged with some 
Macs up through early 2008), provided that your Mac has an infrared sensor. 
(The new MacBook Airs do not have infrared sensors). And of course, if you have 
an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad running the Apple Remote app, and have paired 
this to your computer's iTunes library, you can also control volume, playback, 
and navigation through that app.

These options are explained in detailed in many archived list posts, including 
one that I posted 2 years ago titled, Rewinding and Fast forwarding in iTunes 
that described using the shortcut keys, media function keys, the player control 
buttons in iTunes (that you asked about in the original post), and the infrared 
remote for controlling playback in iTunes, and navigation in audiobooks and 
other media such as movies that allow navigation by chapters.  (The post was 
made just after this list was moved to Google Groups, but before archiving at 
the secondary Mail Archive site was enabled, so it's not directly searchable in 
the Mail Archive, but I could find the Google Groups link by searching the Mail 
Archive site for an early post that referenced this link):

http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/9477875096ee36fc?
(Rewinding and Fast forwarding in iTunes [was Re: iTunes question])  February 
25, 2009

I'll simply point out that the media function controls (F7-F9 for playback; 
F10-F12 for mute along with  volume up and down) can be used when iTunes is 
playing in the background, and will also work for other media apps (such as DVD 
player) as well as third party apps (VLC, etc.)  However, they give a slightly 
different level of control: if I want to slow down my fast forwarding or 
rewinding within a track, audiobook chapter, podcast, movie, or TV show in 
iTunes, I can switch from pressing all of the keys in the Command+Option+Right 
or Left Arrow key shortcut combination to tapping the arrow key to move in 
short jumps.  And I won't move beyond the beginning of the track with this 
combination into the previous track -- I need to switch to Option+Left Arrow if 
I want to do that.  (If the track is paused instead of playing, I also won't be 
able to move beyond the end of the current track with Command+Option+Right 
arrow to fast forward, but will have to use Option+Right Arrow.) If I tap the 
player control buttons or the media control F-keys (F7 or F9), then I jump to 
previous or next track (or chapter in an audiobook).  Also, when I use the 
media control keys (F10-F12) for volume or muting I'm adjusting the system 
volume for the whole computer.  When I use the iTunes specific controls 
(Command+Up Arrow to increase volume and Command+Down Arrow to decrease volume) 
I change the maximum volume in iTunes relative to the system volume, and I can 
either stop playing the track (pressing space bar to pause or resume) or mute 
the track but have it keep playing (Command+Option+Down Arrow), without 
affecting the system volume at all.

HTH.  I know this is more than anyone needed to hear.  There are also more 
options you can read about in the archives, like the RestartAt AppleScript 
that will let you start playback of any track in iTunes at any time that you 
specify in the dialog window.  This is available from Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver 
Downloads page, which is now located at:

http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html

Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 23, 2011, at 01:03, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

 Hello.
 May be I am missing something here, but why don't you just use command + 
 option + left and right arrow keys to do that? 
 
 Nektarios.
 
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Victor Tsaran wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I found out a way to fast forward or rewind the clip in iTunes by
 first routing the mouse pointer to either fast forward or rewind
 button with CTRL+CMD+OPT+F5, and then holding the mouse's left button;
 release to stop either of the actions.
 The question is whether there is a mouse-down and mouse-up or lock a
 mouse button shortcut key in Voiceover that I'm not aware of?
 
 Thanks,
 Vic
 
 
 http://www.victortsaran.net
 

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Re: Apple TV question

Hello Donna.

The general answer to your question is Yes.

I'm assuming you mean that you want to see iTunes content from two computers 
each with its own unique iTunes account.

Mark
On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 My husband and I each have our own iTunes account, set up on our respective 
 computers.  Does anyone know if it's possible to make Apple TV see both our 
 libraries?  At the moment it appears only to be seeing mine, though both of 
 us have homesharing turned on.
 Thanks,
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Re: Victor Stream software for Mac?

2011-01-23 Thread Mike Arrigo

That's great, admitedly, at times it's annoying that mac users are treated as 
second class. While there still may be more pcs in use, the mac's market share 
is continuously increasing, for both blind and sighted users.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Rich Ring wrote:

 And, APH is working on software for the Bookport Plus that will run on the 
 Mac.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: Victor Stream software for Mac?
 
 
 The victor itself doesn't show up on my mac, I'm thinking this is a problem 
 with the stream though because my book sense, plextalk pocket and book port 
 plus show up just fine. Fortunately, there is an easy work around for the 
 stream, just put the card in to a card reader.
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
 
 I could never get that to work on 2 separate macs running 10 6 6. Has 
 anyone found any workarounds that would make it work? What I'm seeing here 
 is that it's hit or miss. Some folks got it to work, while others did not. 
 Maybe this is a chipset thing? Thoughts?
 
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Re: Apple TV question

2011-01-23 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi Mark,

That is correct.  We've been able to do it by entering my husband's account 
info every time, but is there a way to have both accounts come up when we turn 
on home sharing?
Thanks,
Donna
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

 Hello Donna.
 
 The general answer to your question is Yes.
 
 I'm assuming you mean that you want to see iTunes content from two computers 
 each with its own unique iTunes account.
 
 Mark
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My husband and I each have our own iTunes account, set up on our respective 
 computers.  Does anyone know if it's possible to make Apple TV see both our 
 libraries?  At the moment it appears only to be seeing mine, though both of 
 us have homesharing turned on.
 Thanks,
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Re: Apple to Remove the Home Button from Future iPads and iPhones?

Heh Apple has always had the keyboard twister going on. Remember the control
open apple, close apple reset command on the Apple 2.:)

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:11 PM, carlene knight wrote:

It will certainly beinteresting to see how they expect you to get back to the
home screen. I hope it's not some kind of crazy gesture that takes three
hands and a few toes.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Lol,

You would make such a decision without even using one to know if its better,
or comparable to an iPhone with a home button? Don't you think that is a
bit, well, impulsive?

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197

On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

if they do that i don't want an I phone

On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

Saw this story and thought I'd pass it along. This could spell trouble for
some of the accessibility features on the iPhone, for example,
triple-clicking the home button to toggle VO on and off.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/apple-to-remove-home-button-from-future-ipads-and-iphones/

Kevin

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authorizing multiple accounts on Apple TV - never mind, we got it!

2011-01-23 Thread Donna Goodin

Thanks, Mark, we got it figured out.
Best,
Donna

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Re: Apple TV question

Donna,

You should be able to see them both at the same time on your Apple TV.

I have multiple iTunes accounts on several computers in my home.  Later today, 
I will attempt to duplicate your scenario and let you know what happens, OK?

Mark
On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
 That is correct.  We've been able to do it by entering my husband's account 
 info every time, but is there a way to have both accounts come up when we 
 turn on home sharing?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 The general answer to your question is Yes.
 
 I'm assuming you mean that you want to see iTunes content from two computers 
 each with its own unique iTunes account.
 
 Mark
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My husband and I each have our own iTunes account, set up on our respective 
 computers.  Does anyone know if it's possible to make Apple TV see both our 
 libraries?  At the moment it appears only to be seeing mine, though both of 
 us have homesharing turned on.
 Thanks,
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Switching to Mac the missing manual

2011-01-23 Thread Carolyn Haas

Hi:
I wanted a purchased copy of this book, and thought I was finding a gem at the 
app store.  I bought an iPad version, and it is a mess with VO.  I brought it 
into my Apple store, and my trainer says indeed it isn't accessible.  Guess I 
waisted $5.99.  That store can sure confuse me easily.  I thought it was odd 
seeing that book as an App.  


Anyhow, Guess I'm disrecommending the app.

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Re: authorizing multiple accounts on Apple TV - never mind, we got it!

Great.

I am glad to hear it.

I never cease to be amazed at Apple's technology.  They really know how to do 
things right.

Mark
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 Best,
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Re: Victor Stream software for Mac?

2011-01-23 Thread Carolyn Haas

Hi Mike:
Interesting.  My experience is completely the opposite.  I can at least copy 
and paste to my VRS from my macbook pro.  But, I can't get it to work with the 
stream's sd card.  I did have to go have disk utility recognize the stream.  
But, it's worked ever si nce.

Things that make you go , Hmm! :)

Carolyn H
On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 The victor itself doesn't show up on my mac, I'm thinking this is a problem 
 with the stream though because my book sense, plextalk pocket and book port 
 plus show up just fine. Fortunately, there is an easy work around for the 
 stream, just put the card in to a card reader.
 On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
 
 I could never get that to work on 2 separate macs running 10 6 6. Has anyone 
 found any workarounds that would make it work? What I'm seeing here is that 
 it's hit or miss. Some folks got it to work, while others did not. Maybe 
 this is a chipset thing? Thoughts?
 
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Re: Jail breaking an IPhone 4 from a blind perspective, can't find the thread

Wow ok, I'll pass on the Jailbreak then.

I did some googling after posting that and it seemed that 4.2.1 was a 
challenge.  If I was on 4 I'd be set.:)


On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

 Assuming your on 4.2, jailbreak on the iPhone 4 is tethered at the
 moment, meaning that when ever your phone reboots, assuming that you
 want to run jailbreak apps, you'll have to rejailbreak the phone from
 a computer. Even if you don't want to run any jailbreak apps, safari
 will crash every time you open it if you don't run the tool.
 In other words its really not worth it.
 
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 Hi,
 I read sometime back a thread on jailbreaking the IPhone, the specific
 things to be done with out eyeballs and a link to a step by step.  Does
 anyone have that link or the thread?  I'd like to give it a shot.
 
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Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

Wow, this is one of the most short sited and close minded responses I've ever 
seen.

That's like saying everything the Government says is true or police are here to 
help all the time.  

Lets take it from the top.

Tweaking, taking things apart and curiosity are some of the most basic 
traights.  If you don't have that you've missed out on one of the most key and 
fundamental parts of the human experience.

I spent many an hour with my father as a child taking things apart, 
learning how they worked and even sometimes putting them back together.  You 
could never put a price on the value of that time.  My career today directly 
hindges on the fact that my interests in electronics and things technical were 
stimulated from an extremely early age.

Next, who the hell is anybody to say that something I've bought isn't mine to 
do with as I please.  Apple entered in to a deal with me, I gave them money and 
they gave me a device.  If I wish to use that device as a coaster I should be 
able to.  If I want to pop it open and see how it works I should.  If I buy a 
windows phone and I want all the features enabled that's my choise because I 
paid for it not some carrier or manufacturor so I'm unlocking the boot loader 
and fixing the problems.  If you sell me a CDMA device and leave open the 
ability to edit the access over load class so my calls have the same priority 
as the president or emergency responders and I figure that out, that's your 
fault not mine for using a feature made available to me.  

Your position is an immoral one.  It's wrong to sell me something then tell me 
what I can do with it.  If you want that sort of deal lease it to me then.  
That way, I don't own it, you preserve your property and IP rights and I have 
to play by your rules, else get out of the way of my experimentation.

:)


On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 ahem, I think not.  the smarter than average thinker will think it unwise to 
 tinker with such an investment.
 I have note even read it, and i find the concept hilarious!
 Actually its rather common for them makers of electronics to strongly suggest 
 that opening them up to have a look is a very bad idea.
 I for one prefer things like my television refrigerator and  yes even my 
 iphone if I had one kept closed.  I feel such devices deserve the respect of 
 keeping their innards private.  Modesty to say the least you know?
 Karen
 
 On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Oh no I'm aware of that and I don't have even the knoledge of the inside of 
 any phone lol! but what about those of us who are smarter then the avrage 
 tinkerer? lol. they might be able to make a something that might make my 
 phone do my dishes and homework. lol!
 On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about in 
 there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which 
 means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they 
 don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of 
 warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you 
 break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together.
 Scott
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep consumers 
 out? read more:
 
 http://bit.ly/gpoTpd
 
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Re: Accessing full status bar with voiceover?

2011-01-23 Thread joseph

hi ricardo

just to say thank you for this.  keep up the good work.

best
On 23 Jan 2011, at 17:45, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm not a braille user so I have no answers for you regarding that.  I'm a 
 bit confused about control F8 though.  I don't remember mentioning control F8 
 in the show.  I did say press control option F8 to open VO utilities.  Could 
 this be what your referring to?
 
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 On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:32 PM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo,
 thanx for your podcast  about this problem, it works!
 But, on my system , control+f8 isn't working also (f-functions are done 
 without fn).
 And about the settings in navigation of the vo-menu:
 normally the mouse-cursor was set to ignore the voiceover-cursor so , for 
 this, I have set it to follow the vo-cursor.
 
 I know that I have troubles with braille when I set this option to move 
 vo-cursorbut I don't know if move vo-cursor can be a default setting 
 without having problems in other situations/programs with vo and/or braille?
 
 Thanx  for your answer,
 
 best regards,
 William 
 Op 22-jan-2011, om 20:31 heeft Ricardo Walker het volgende geschreven:
 
 I show how to get to the hidden icons in the status bar like hot spot 
 shield.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Hello Ricardo,
 
 Are you saying that you discuss how to find hidden items like Hot Spot 
 Shield items in the system Status menu in this podcast? Or, rather, are 
 you referring to the Ctrl-F8 discussion point?
 
 Have a super weekend,
 
 Mike
 
 On 22,Jan,2011, at 5:56 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 this happens to be my main topic in my first episode of, Apple to the 
 core.  lol.  You can listen here
 http://goo.gl/8FoSJ
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
 Dane, are you sure about that command?  I hit the VO-M command twice to 
 get to the system status menu, but entering Ctrl-F8 didn't accomplish 
 anything.
 
 I have this program called Hot Spot Shield that hangs out in the System 
 Status area, and it is, thus far, inaccessible to me.  Too bad, because 
 it's a great program that hides your IP address which can be very useful 
 when you are out in public.  Does the Ctrl-F8 give you better access to 
 this area of the screen than the traditional VO-M*2?
 
 Take care,
 
 Mike
 
 On 22,Jan,2011, at 1:43 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Even better way of doing it, try ctrl-f8.
 
 
 On 22/01/2011, at 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I will add that if you VO M twice, and arrow through the menues, you 
 can get more info by pressing Option with left/right arrows to explore 
 the status bar.
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 VO-m two times quickly. Then right-arrow through the menu items till 
 you get to one you want to explore further.
 
 HTH,
 Teresa
 On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:55 AM, Jes Smith wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 How does one access the full status bar with voiceover, as I thought 
 the icons for things such as drop box and such were not accessible.
 I realize that someone posted a work around for the v o m m thing, 
 but I just subscribed to the list yesterday so would appreciate the 
 info.
 Thanks and take care.
 
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iTunes Password Prompt

2011-01-23 Thread Jeff Berwick

Hi all,

I was downloading a movie I purchased through iTunes last night and something 
happened.  Eventually I was able to download the move but, now, every time I 
launch iTunes, I have to enter in my password.  I've gone into my account and 
entered my password but, it is like it forgets it each time.

Does anybody have any idea how I can get rid of this annoyance?

Also, even though I downloaded the movie successfully, it still tells me there 
was an error.  These may be linked.

Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: Accessing full status bar with voiceover?

2011-01-23 Thread Esther

Hi Ricardo,

William is referring to the fact that the native Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts 
use Control+F2 to move to the menu bar, Control+F3 to move to the dock, and 
Control+F8 to move to the status menu bar.  So people who use the Mac defaults 
where available will use Control+F2 (instead of VO+M), and Control+F8 (instead 
of VO+M twice) to move to the application menu bar and the status menu bar.  
Either of these options works.  The advantage of using the native Mac shortcuts 
is that they work even if VoiceOver freezes.  I'm not sure why he can't use 
Control+F8.  Depending on whether your System Preferences for keyboard are set 
to use the F keys in their hardware or software functions, some operations 
requiring pressing an Fn key with a function key.

The setting for this behavior is in System Preferences  Keyboard and on the 
Keyboard tab of the Keyboard 
tab there is a check box for  Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function 
keys; When this option is selected, press the Fn key to use the special 
features printed on each key.

I suspect that the answer to William's question is that he could use map out 
the position of the Dropbox status menu icon with the Trackpad movement, using 
VO+F5 to check when Dropbox is under the mouse and VO+F5+F5 to read off the 
cursor location.  Then, he could use something like Voxkeys to make a script 
that would move the mouse to that location in the status menu bar and click the 
icon.  The script could be bound to a shortcut key and this could be used 
without requiring the navigation tracking setting in VoiceOver utility to be 
set to Mouse Cursor Moves VoiceOver Cursor.  In order to make the measurement 
in pixel coordinates (which the scripts would use), he'd have to set the combo 
box under the Announcements tab of Verbosity in VoiceOver Utility to Speak 
size and position in Pixels instead of millimeters or inches.  Then VO+F5 
would announce Dropbox is under the mouse and pressing the F5 key again 
(VO+F5+F5) would give the pixel coordinates of the mouse cursor on his status 
menu bar, for input into the relevant Voxkey scripts.

I should add that I'm not doing any work with scripts myself, but this is being 
discussed on other lists (for using the BBC iPlayer controls, for example).

It's also actually possible to map out the status bar menu cursor locations of 
those icons like Dropbox without having the mouse cursor set to follow the 
VoiceOver cursor, as long as no windows are open (or they're all hidden) and 
you're working from Finder, but it's trickier, and I wouldn't do this in 
practice.  

In answer to Jes' question (way down the thread) about how one is managing to 
access the full status bar, what's being used here is the ability to move the 
mouse cursor with the Trackpad independent of VoiceOver's navigation.  
VoiceOver can report when the cursor is on the icon in the status bar; it just 
doesn't have a way of navigating to some of these icons by VoiceOver shortcuts 
and keystrokes because they aren't exposed for navigation purposes.  VoiceOver 
can also report the pixel positions of icons, so you can get another feeling of 
how much you move between typical icons on the status menu bar if you check the 
offset positions for the icons you can navigate to with VoiceOver.  This is a 
particularly good case for using Trackpad navigation, since you can't move 
beyond the top of the screen with your cursor, even if you don't move the 
cursor to the right or left in a perfectly straight line.  So if you move to 
the left, but slightly up on the Trackpad, only your horizontal motion will be 
used if your vertical motion would otherwise position the cursor above the 
status bar.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 23, 2011, at 07:45, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm not a braille user so I have no answers for you regarding that.  I'm a 
 bit confused about control F8 though.  I don't remember mentioning control F8 
 in the show.  I did say press control option F8 to open VO utilities.  Could 
 this be what your referring to?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:32 PM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo,
 thanx for your podcast  about this problem, it works!
 But, on my system , control+f8 isn't working also (f-functions are done 
 without fn).
 And about the settings in navigation of the vo-menu:
 normally the mouse-cursor was set to ignore the voiceover-cursor so , for 
 this, I have set it to follow the vo-cursor.
 
 I know that I have troubles with braille when I set this option to move 
 vo-cursorbut I don't know if move vo-cursor can be a default setting 
 without having problems in other situations/programs with vo and/or braille?
 
 Thanx  for your answer,
 
 best regards,
 William 
 Op 22-jan-2011, om 20:31 heeft Ricardo Walker het volgende geschreven:
 
 I show how to get to the hidden icons in the status bar like hot spot 
 shield.

Can anyone help? Macs aren't seeing each other on the network

2011-01-23 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hello Listers.
I have two macs on my network that I want to share files and folders between. 
One of them is a mac mini running snow leopard server and the other is a 
macbook running snow leopard.
When I open network with command shift K, They both show up briefly but then 
soon disappear from the browser. I've checked the network connection on both 
machines but they are both still connected. Before anyone asks, file sharing is 
turned on on both machines.
Thanks for any assistance anyone can give.


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Re: Apple to Remove the Home Button from Future iPads and iPhones?

Hey! I have not heard that command in years! but either my mind is blank or I'm
tired. what does that have to do wiht the home button beeing removed from
future IDevices? Not trying to be rude. I just got up from not sleeping for 24
hours.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Heh Apple has always had the keyboard twister going on. Remember the control
open apple, close apple reset command on the Apple 2.:)

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:11 PM, carlene knight wrote:

It will certainly beinteresting to see how they expect you to get back to
the home screen. I hope it's not some kind of crazy gesture that takes
three hands and a few toes.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Lol,

You would make such a decision without even using one to know if its
better, or comparable to an iPhone with a home button? Don't you think
that is a bit, well, impulsive?

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

if they do that i don't want an I phone

On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

Saw this story and thought I'd pass it along. This could spell trouble
for some of the accessibility features on the iPhone, for example,
triple-clicking the home button to toggle VO on and off.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/apple-to-remove-home-button-from-future-ipads-and-iphones/

Kevin

Re: Apple to Remove the Home Button from Future iPads and iPhones?

Actually, this is a non issue.

IPhonehacks is reporting that the 4 and 5 finger moves are not going to be
implimented in the iphone 5.

On Jan 23, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Hey! I have not heard that command in years! but either my mind is blank or
I'm tired. what does that have to do wiht the home button beeing removed from
future IDevices? Not trying to be rude. I just got up from not sleeping for
24 hours.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Heh Apple has always had the keyboard twister going on. Remember the
control open apple, close apple reset command on the Apple 2.:)

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:11 PM, carlene knight wrote:

It will certainly beinteresting to see how they expect you to get back to
the home screen. I hope it's not some kind of crazy gesture that takes
three hands and a few toes.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Lol,

You would make such a decision without even using one to know if its
better, or comparable to an iPhone with a home button? Don't you think
that is a bit, well, impulsive?

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197

On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

if they do that i don't want an I phone

On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

Saw this story and thought I'd pass it along. This could spell trouble
for some of the accessibility features on the iPhone, for example,
triple-clicking the home button to toggle VO on and off.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/apple-to-remove-home-button-from-future-ipads-and-iphones/

Kevin

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Re: Apple to Remove the Home Button from Future iPads and iPhones?

Ah. we'll see though. they are probably write but we'll see until the ios
updates and the phones come out.

S
On Jan 23, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Actually, this is a non issue.

IPhonehacks is reporting that the 4 and 5 finger moves are not going to be
implimented in the iphone 5.

On Jan 23, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Hey! I have not heard that command in years! but either my mind is blank or
I'm tired. what does that have to do wiht the home button beeing removed
from future IDevices? Not trying to be rude. I just got up from not sleeping
for 24 hours.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Heh Apple has always had the keyboard twister going on. Remember the
control open apple, close apple reset command on the Apple 2.:)

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:11 PM, carlene knight wrote:

It will certainly beinteresting to see how they expect you to get back to
the home screen. I hope it's not some kind of crazy gesture that takes
three hands and a few toes.

On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Lol,

You would make such a decision without even using one to know if its
better, or comparable to an iPhone with a home button? Don't you think
that is a bit, well, impulsive?

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On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

if they do that i don't want an I phone

On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote:

Saw this story and thought I'd pass it along. This could spell trouble
for some of the accessibility features on the iPhone, for example,
triple-clicking the home button to toggle VO on and off.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/13/apple-to-remove-home-button-from-future-ipads-and-iphones/

Kevin

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Re: Switching to Mac the missing manual

2011-01-23 Thread Candie Stiles

That book is available from book share if you'd like to download it there.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi:
 I wanted a purchased copy of this book, and thought I was finding a gem at 
 the app store.  I bought an iPad version, and it is a mess with VO.  I 
 brought it into my Apple store, and my trainer says indeed it isn't 
 accessible.  Guess I waisted $5.99.  That store can sure confuse me easily.  
 I thought it was odd seeing that book as an App.  
 
 
 Anyhow, Guess I'm disrecommending the app.
 
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