Excluding a folder from Icloud
Hi everyone, I hope you all had a joyous holiday season. Happy New Year to all. I discovered the other day my folder with al my music projects got backed up to Icloud. Is there a way to exclude this folder? I'm not interested in listening to things i'm working on with my Iphone. Thank you for any help. Allison Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
Hi guys. I am not having the same issue with my iPhone 4 s. In fact, things improved with iPhone 4 s when IOS 6 came out. I had the opposite problem with it until then. VoiceOver was so quiet that I couldn't hear it when I needed to deal with some computer that wouldn't shut up. Sorry guys, but I'm really liking the volume I'm having on mine these days. So, I'm not sure what is causing your troubles. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads the notification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna drive me nuts and make me deaf in the longrun if I can't figure it out. LOL! Yes, I literally mean it, it was that? loud! It was insane! The really bizarre thing is, now get a load a this! on speaker phone? I don't have that problem. voiceover is pretty much the same exact volume as the party who is on the line. Isn't? that! weird? Anyway, yeah... I'm at a loss. If anyone has any clue, please! do tell! Now, I'm really! curious. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mike H a question regarding accessible screen capture software.
thanks can you do that for a web page video as well? Thanks. On 2013-01-02, at 1:28 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: You mean you want to just record what's happening on the screen to a file? Just use QuicktimePlayer and choose New Screen Recording and go from there. CB On 12/31/12 12:36 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Hi there I'm wandering if someone knows of good screen capture recording software that you can use to record videos online or on a mak at all? Thanks. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
album art/movie covers?
Okay, I know that when you import a CD in to iTunes, it usually downloads the album cover automatically. Is there an app to have it do this for movies also? I rip and convert my DVD's, and would like the cover to show with the movie when I am going through it on my appleTV or iTunes. Is there something out there that will match the movies with their dvd covers or album art per say? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Anti-Virus for the Mac
Hi, It was mentioned furthered down in the thread but, here goes the link. http://www.eset.com/us/home/products/antivirus-for-mac?CMP=KNC-g-agmkwid=sQCKrnTyCpcrid=14917657690pmt=ppkw=eset%20for%20macgclid=COr0np2Az7QCFU-d4Aodd1QApA I used the 30 day free trial, and It was accessible. That isn't an issue. I recommend you trying it out just to see if it suits your needs. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: What anti virus app were you refering too? I've seen some people say this or that works, others say that those same apps don't work. I would like a little consistancy before I decide. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sorry. yes. That's what I was referring to. It works just fine. I believe there is a 30 day trial. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: I went to the site that was suggested and they only have Nod32 for Windows. For Mac, they have some ESET Cybersecurity FOr mac. Would you know if that works? According to the site it is for Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
dvd ripping software
Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: dvd ripping software
Most people like hand break, it's free and you have to Google it to find the down load link. Others like DVD remaster, I personally think it is over priced at $49.99 Another that they say is good with voice over is Mac DVD ripper pro, unlike the first 2 I mentioned, this one removes the incripsion for you, and is only $19.99 again, to find this one Google is your friend. HTH Kliphton Senior (EmailiMessage) kliph...@gmail.com (TwitterSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Noah Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:28 AM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: dvd ripping software Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd ripping software
Hi there to ancer your question regarding DVD ripping software I normly use rip it and it seams pretty excessible. If your doing tv show dvd's I use rip it and then hand brake to go through and sort out the episodes. Hope this helps. On 2013-01-04, at 9:28 AM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd ripping software
Thanks very much. I'll check those out. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca On 2013-01-04, at 10:32 AM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: Most people like hand break, it's free and you have to Google it to find the down load link. Others like DVD remaster, I personally think it is over priced at $49.99 Another that they say is good with voice over is Mac DVD ripper pro, unlike the first 2 I mentioned, this one removes the incripsion for you, and is only $19.99 again, to find this one Google is your friend. HTH Kliphton Senior (EmailiMessage) kliph...@gmail.com (TwitterSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of May and Noah Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:28 AM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: dvd ripping software Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd ripping software
Oo, now that's good to know for when I get those. I just have movies for now, but will get tv shows. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca On 2013-01-04, at 10:33 AM, Michael Huckabay mikehucka...@me.com wrote: Hi there to ancer your question regarding DVD ripping software I normly use rip it and it seams pretty excessible. If your doing tv show dvd's I use rip it and then hand brake to go through and sort out the episodes. Hope this helps. On 2013-01-04, at 9:28 AM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
voiceoverbugs
zHello, I would like to share some voiceover bugs in 10.8.2 to see if it are real bugs. 1. search with vo+f in mail seems not to work (always). The pattern isn't simply found. I don't know if the format (rtf, html…), affects the problem and it should perhaps work in txt-format. 2. I should think that command +left/right-arrow should go to the begin/end of a line. I don't know if this works always on my macbook: is it command+arrow left/right or do I need the fn key for this? Should command+left/right arrow be the same when quicknav is on/off? In any case, I think the cursor, presented as blinking dots on my braille display, is not jumping to the end or beginning of the line even if the typed at the beginning or end of the line. (the cursor is moved but the new position isn't shown on the braille display). 3. In safari , I can't jump to a menu-item : I press vo+m and then e.g. B (market as capital letter for the menu-item bookmarks). Voiceover says that no buttons are found. It seems voiceover thinks I have pressed vo+command+b. I have only discovered this problem in safari 6.0.2 with quicknav on. Any remarks of this 3 bugs are very welcome, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Anti-Virus for the Mac
Thanks, already downloaded Cyber Security. So far it seems to work pretty well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
Hi, I have a 3gs and when I am using my phone without speakers, It is quite lould. I think it is something to do with ios itself. Just my thought. matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com On Jan 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads the notification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna drive me nuts and make me deaf in the longrun if I can't figure it out. LOL! Yes, I literally mean it, it was that? loud! It was insane! The really bizarre thing is, now get a load a this! on speaker phone? I don't have that problem. voiceover is pretty much the same exact volume as the party who is on the line. Isn't? that! weird? Anyway, yeah... I'm at a loss. If anyone has any clue, please! do tell! Now, I'm really! curious. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Anti-Virus for the Mac
Hi, I grabed clamsav yesterday and I ran a scan wkith it but was wondering if it is suposed to run on startup or if I have to run it manualy? I did grabe it from the app store and it is accessible. There are afew unlabled buttons. matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: What anti virus app were you refering too? I've seen some people say this or that works, others say that those same apps don't work. I would like a little consistancy before I decide. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sorry. yes. That's what I was referring to. It works just fine. I believe there is a 30 day trial. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: I went to the site that was suggested and they only have Nod32 for Windows. For Mac, they have some ESET Cybersecurity FOr mac. Would you know if that works? According to the site it is for Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
OK, I'm just glad to know that I'm not crazy. Have you gotten an opportunity to test this out and see if you, too, have the problem with an IPhone 5? When I bought the phone in the store yesterday, it had 6.0.1. I'm not totally sure if this occured before I updated it to 6.0.2. I'll be honest, I used it in the car pretty heavily coming back home, yes, but it wasn't for talking. It was more just setting things back up etc. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue? Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads the notification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna drive me nuts and make me deaf in the longrun if I can't figure it out. LOL! Yes, I literally mean it, it was that? loud! It was insane! The really bizarre thing is, now get a load a this! on speaker phone? I don't have that problem. voiceover is pretty much the same exact volume as the party who is on the line. Isn't? that! weird? Anyway, yeah... I'm at a loss. If anyone has any clue, please! do tell! Now, I'm really! curious. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
Gigi, Keep in mind, you speak of the 4S. I think you may be a little confused. We're not talking about the 4S. We're talking about the IPhone 5. Yes, I like you, didn't have any of these problems on my 4S either. It wasn't until I upgraded that I started experiencing them. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue? Hi guys. I am not having the same issue with my iPhone 4 s. In fact, things improved with iPhone 4 s when IOS 6 came out. I had the opposite problem with it until then. VoiceOver was so quiet that I couldn't hear it when I needed to deal with some computer that wouldn't shut up. Sorry guys, but I'm really liking the volume I'm having on mine these days. So, I'm not sure what is causing your troubles. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Michael Babcock michael.babcoc...@gmail.com wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads the notification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna drive me nuts and make me deaf in the longrun if I can't figure it out. LOL! Yes, I literally mean it, it was that? loud! It was insane! The really bizarre thing is, now get a load a this! on speaker phone? I don't have that problem. voiceover is pretty much the same exact volume as the party who is on the line. Isn't? that! weird? Anyway, yeah... I'm at a loss. If anyone has any clue, please! do tell! Now, I'm really! curious. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
Matthew, keep in mind that the 3GS had a few issues with the speaker. For one thing, I vaguely remember that it would distort really really badly if you turned it way up. The 5 isn't like that. I can crank it to full max, and it still maintains a very! very! cristal clear sound. I just don't like it blaring the hell outta me when I'm in a call. I do know one thing I could! do, to get around the issue, but it's really a poor man's work around. If you basically put the phone up to your ear and then somehow can lock your screen, while it's up to your ear on the receiver, not on speaker phone, which I don't know how to do that unless you have headphones plugged in initially, then you won't hear the notification be read out, provided under settings, general, accessibility you have that feature shut off, which I think by default, it is. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue? Hi, I have a 3gs and when I am using my phone without speakers, It is quite lould. I think it is something to do with ios itself. Just my thought. matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com On Jan 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads the notification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna drive me nuts and make me deaf in the longrun if I can't figure it out. LOL! Yes, I literally mean it, it was that? loud! It was insane! The really bizarre thing is, now get a load a this! on speaker phone? I don't have that problem. voiceover is pretty much the same exact volume as the party who is on the line. Isn't? that! weird? Anyway, yeah... I'm at a loss. If anyone has any clue, please! do tell! Now, I'm really! curious. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
album art/movie covers?
Okay, I know that when you import a CD in to iTunes, it usually downloads the album cover automatically. Is there an app to have it do this for movies also? I rip and convert my DVD's, and would like the cover to show with the movie when I am going through it on my appleTV or iTunes. Is there something out there that will match the movies with their dvd covers or album art per say? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mike H a question regarding accessible screen capture software.
I think it records everything. That also means, depending on the resolution of your display and how long you record, that the file will be quite large. I tried it and a 2 minute video of my laptop screen (1440x900 resolution) was about 80MB. CB On 1/4/13 10:02 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote: thanks can you do that for a web page video as well? Thanks. On 2013-01-02, at 1:28 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: You mean you want to just record what's happening on the screen to a file? Just use QuicktimePlayer and choose New Screen Recording and go from there. CB On 12/31/12 12:36 AM, Michael Huckabay wrote: Hi there I'm wandering if someone knows of good screen capture recording software that you can use to record videos online or on a mak at all? Thanks. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
GarageBand loop browser again
Well, last night I did something to completely screw up the loop browser in GB. The last several days I've been messing around quite a bit, rebuilding the loop index, until finally nothing would show up in the browser even though I had recently sucessfully imported all 6 jampacks and had it working fine. Then, I deleted a project and suddenly nothing would show in the loop browser no matter what I did. Fortunately I keep a twice-weekly SuperDuper system image backup and was able to restore to the point where everything was working fine with all 6 jampacks loaded and showing up fine. Don't know what happened, but I think I'll just stop messing with the loop browser and let it do it's own thing. If the SuperDuper restore didn't work, the next step was a OS reinstall and I wasn't looking forward to that. Any thoughts on this whole mess I started? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceoverbugs
My responses are in your message below. On 1/4/13, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: zHello, I would like to share some voiceover bugs in 10.8.2 to see if it are real bugs. 1. search with vo+f in mail seems not to work (always). The pattern isn't simply found. I don't know if the format (rtf, html…), affects the problem and it should perhaps work in txt-format. I just use cmd-option-f to search within the selected mailbox. 2. I should think that command +left/right-arrow should go to the begin/end of a line. Yes it does. I don't know if this works always on my macbook: is it command+arrow left/right or do I need the fn key for this? No, just command. Should command+left/right arrow be the same when quicknav is on/off? I always leave quicknav off for editing as it can really mess things up. In any case, I think the cursor, presented as blinking dots on my braille display, is not jumping to the end or beginning of the line even if the typed at the beginning or end of the line. (the cursor is moved but the new position isn't shown on the braille display). I don't use a display much with my mac, so I can't comment. 3. In safari , I can't jump to a menu-item : I press vo+m and then e.g. B (market as capital letter for the menu-item bookmarks). Voiceover says that no buttons are found. It seems voiceover thinks I have pressed vo+command+b. I have only discovered this problem in safari 6.0.2 with quicknav on. There's your problem, quicknav is on. I almost always leave it off since, as you found, it can disrupt normal navigation. Any remarks of this 3 bugs are very welcome, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Is an OS reinstall in order
GarageBand is acting very screwy to the point where I'm considering the necessity of an OS (10.8.2) reinstall. The problem is this: I have 1 project in garage band. If I delete that project from finder, or do things like change the project time signature (the two things I've done so far), then, all my loops disappear from the loop browser. The one exception is the iLife sound effect loops - they are the only loops that show in Loop browser. This last time I change the project time signature and all the loops in the browser disappeared. I cancelled the changes and restarted GB and voila, the loops were back! But, change the time sig and they disappear. I've had to restore from backup twice so far to correct this disappearing loops problem. The whole thing seems a little screwy and I'm wondering if a fresh install of ML is in order? I've never done that before, but I am somewhat familiar with the process. Would I need to first erase the MacHD from the recovery partition before reinstalling, or just select reinstall OS from the recovery Partition menu? Thanks for any help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dvd ripping software
Hi May, I'd say Handbrake would probably be the best choice to go with. It's available from handbrake.fr On 2013-01-04, at 10:28 AM, May and Noah mcdonald@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Sorry if this thread was talked about before. What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows me to rip both the audio and the picture? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca m...@canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Questions
I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
Hi Chris I haven't had those exact issues with my iPhone 5. I have my ringer volume set not to be changed by the buttons. I do find vo chats more incessantly during a call which annoys me, but it's not loud at all. I just can't shut her up. Sometimes though, if I've made a phone call using the phone alone and not the head set, voice over really distorts badly after the call is over, so I have to turn the phone off and back on again. It's like the phone call messes with the volume which makes voice over super loud and distorting after the call is over. So something is going on here but not sure what. I, too, love my iPhone. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 6:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, keep in mind that the 3GS had a few issues with the speaker. For one thing, I vaguely remember that it would distort really really badly if you turned it way up. The 5 isn't like that. I can crank it to full max, and it still maintains a very! very! cristal clear sound. I just don't like it blaring the hell outta me when I'm in a call. I do know one thing I could! do, to get around the issue, but it's really a poor man's work around. If you basically put the phone up to your ear and then somehow can lock your screen, while it's up to your ear on the receiver, not on speaker phone, which I don't know how to do that unless you have headphones plugged in initially, then you won't hear the notification be read out, provided under settings, general, accessibility you have that feature shut off, which I think by default, it is. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue? Hi, I have a 3gs and when I am using my phone without speakers, It is quite lould. I think it is something to do with ios itself. Justmy thought. matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com On Jan 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads thenotification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you get my point.) LOL! The bottom line is, it was extremely! loud. and I do mean, l'l'l'loud! I mean that sucker, had to be at least! generously speaking, yet literally speaking, probably 3 or 4 times louder than the person I was speaking to. As she was reading the notification, I quickly clicked my volume down button on the left side of the phone, and I got it where Voiceover was no longer blaring, but at that point, the person I was talking to was almost inaudible. Could this be because the setting under settings, sound was set to where the volume buttons effect the ringer and alerts? I shut that off, as I normally have that off anyway, but for some odd reason, that setting didn't carry over from my backup's restoration from my old 4S. I just know that is gonna
Re: Accessible Anti-Virus for the Mac
Well, if it's fully accessible, then, it's high time I installed it wouldn't you say? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It was mentioned furthered down in the thread but, here goes the link. http://www.eset.com/us/home/products/antivirus-for-mac?CMP=KNC-g-agmkwid=sQCKrnTyCpcrid=14917657690pmt=ppkw=eset%20for%20macgclid=COr0np2Az7QCFU-d4Aodd1QApA I used the 30 day free trial, and It was accessible. That isn't an issue. I recommend you trying it out just to see if it suits your needs. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: What anti virus app were you refering too? I've seen some people say this or that works, others say that those same apps don't work. I would like a little consistancy before I decide. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sorry. yes. That's what I was referring to. It works just fine. I believe there is a 30 day trial. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: I went to the site that was suggested and they only have Nod32 for Windows. For Mac, they have some ESET Cybersecurity FOr mac. Would you know if that works? According to the site it is for Mountain Lion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceoverbugs
Hello Alex, thx for your answers. I have written new comments on question 1 and 3 so, if you want , you can answer them again. question 2 is not that clear perhaps: When I move with command+left/right and the keyboard-cursor is at the beginning/end of the line , the mark with dots7,8 on the braille display is gone or not on the place where the keyboard cursor is. This seems a bug or a limited implementation of braille on the mac? kind regards, William WIndels Op 4-jan.-2013, om 19:00 heeft Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: My responses are in your message below. On 1/4/13, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: zHello, I would like to share some voiceover bugs in 10.8.2 to see if it are real bugs. 1. search with vo+f in mail seems not to work (always). The pattern isn't simply found. I don't know if the format (rtf, html…), affects the problem and it should perhaps work in txt-format. I just use cmd-option-f to search within the selected mailbox. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough: I use vo+f to search in a open message. I use also command+option+f to search in a mailbox but this is something different. 2. I should think that command +left/right-arrow should go to the begin/end of a line. Yes it does. I don't know if this works always on my macbook: is it command+arrow left/right or do I need the fn key for this? No, just command. Should command+left/right arrow be the same when quicknav is on/off? I always leave quicknav off for editing as it can really mess things up. In any case, I think the cursor, presented as blinking dots on my braille display, is not jumping to the end or beginning of the line even if the typed at the beginning or end of the line. (the cursor is moved but the new position isn't shown on the braille display). I don't use a display much with my mac, so I can't comment. 3. In safari , I can't jump to a menu-item : I press vo+m and then e.g. B (market as capital letter for the menu-item bookmarks). Voiceover says that no buttons are found. It seems voiceover thinks I have pressed vo+command+b. I have only discovered this problem in safari 6.0.2 with quicknav on. There's your problem, quicknav is on. I almost always leave it off since, as you found, it can disrupt normal navigation. Sorry but if quicknav can't be on on a webpage, with the hotkeys for heathers , then you lose one of the most important functions of quicknav (in my opinion). This is really a bug? But, I can agree that quicknav should not always on. Any remarks of this 3 bugs are very welcome, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceoverbugs
Yes, the display cursor problem is a bug, as is the quicknav problem when trying to type or open menus. I have actually never tried searching within an open message before. On 1/4/13, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Alex, thx for your answers. I have written new comments on question 1 and 3 so, if you want , you can answer them again. question 2 is not that clear perhaps: When I move with command+left/right and the keyboard-cursor is at the beginning/end of the line , the mark with dots7,8 on the braille display is gone or not on the place where the keyboard cursor is. This seems a bug or a limited implementation of braille on the mac? kind regards, William WIndels Op 4-jan.-2013, om 19:00 heeft Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: My responses are in your message below. On 1/4/13, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: zHello, I would like to share some voiceover bugs in 10.8.2 to see if it are real bugs. 1. search with vo+f in mail seems not to work (always). The pattern isn't simply found. I don't know if the format (rtf, html…), affects the problem and it should perhaps work in txt-format. I just use cmd-option-f to search within the selected mailbox. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough: I use vo+f to search in a open message. I use also command+option+f to search in a mailbox but this is something different. 2. I should think that command +left/right-arrow should go to the begin/end of a line. Yes it does. I don't know if this works always on my macbook: is it command+arrow left/right or do I need the fn key for this? No, just command. Should command+left/right arrow be the same when quicknav is on/off? I always leave quicknav off for editing as it can really mess things up. In any case, I think the cursor, presented as blinking dots on my braille display, is not jumping to the end or beginning of the line even if the typed at the beginning or end of the line. (the cursor is moved but the new position isn't shown on the braille display). I don't use a display much with my mac, so I can't comment. 3. In safari , I can't jump to a menu-item : I press vo+m and then e.g. B (market as capital letter for the menu-item bookmarks). Voiceover says that no buttons are found. It seems voiceover thinks I have pressed vo+command+b. I have only discovered this problem in safari 6.0.2 with quicknav on. There's your problem, quicknav is on. I almost always leave it off since, as you found, it can disrupt normal navigation. Sorry but if quicknav can't be on on a webpage, with the hotkeys for heathers , then you lose one of the most important functions of quicknav (in my opinion). This is really a bug? But, I can agree that quicknav should not always on. Any remarks of this 3 bugs are very welcome, kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is an OS reinstall in order
It'll be best you wipe the mac HD partition In fact, I have a podcast on doing a clean install. From the podcast, however, you may want to consider making a USB thumb drive of M L in case the recovery goes. You can find my podcasts at www.danielcproductions.net The episode will be DPC Episode 3: Mountain Lion CleanInstall. dpc3.mp3 http://danielcproductions.net/files/dpc3.mp3 if you wish to subscribe to my podcast feed http://danielcproductions.net/files/feed.xml Let me know if my podcast helps; it goes through a live reinstall and media creation. As well, if you need help, please subscribe to my podcast mailing list dpc-subscr...@danielcproductions.net Have a great day. Daniel System Administrator www.Firestar-Hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
setting items to particular groups in contacts?
I seem to be having a bit of a problem with contacts on my iphone. Some of my phone only contacts will not show up in phones under groups. the same goes for email addresses only and mailing lists. it gets even worse whe I use contacts from the phone app. some items don't even appear at all in any group or in all contacts. is there any way I can correct this? -eric Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is an OS reinstall in order
Thanks Daniel, I just grabbed the podcast and bookmarked your site. Hopefully it'll be just what I need to answer my questions. - Original Message - From: Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Is an OS reinstall in order It'll be best you wipe the mac HD partition In fact, I have a podcast on doing a clean install. From the podcast, however, you may want to consider making a USB thumb drive of M L in case the recovery goes. You can find my podcasts at www.danielcproductions.net The episode will be DPC Episode 3: Mountain Lion CleanInstall. dpc3.mp3 http://danielcproductions.net/files/dpc3.mp3 if you wish to subscribe to my podcast feed http://danielcproductions.net/files/feed.xml Let me know if my podcast helps; it goes through a live reinstall and media creation. As well, if you need help, please subscribe to my podcast mailing list dpc-subscr...@danielcproductions.net Have a great day. Daniel System Administrator www.Firestar-Hosting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Expanding Conversations in Mail
Nah, I have run into this problem too. In my case, I was interacting with the message list table and when I would press either left or right arrow keys without any other modifiers, I would hear a ding. The one way I'm able to get out of this bind is to turn off VO with the usual Command-F5 key, then press left or right arrow keys back and forth until it stops dinging. This usually fixes after a couple key strokes. then I can turn VO back on and all is fine after that until this happens a few days later. Not sure why this is happening and I'm not sure which package to blame but at least I can fix the deal without having to reboot or anything that drastic. HTH. On 1/3/13, Rodney Haynie rodney.hay...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like quick nab was on. Toggle with left and right arrows at the same time. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I read all messages with conversation view active. On occasion, I cannot expand the conversation by hitting the right arrow key. When this occurs, I restart the Mac and the problem is resolved. I've tried closing and re-starting mail, but that does not resolve this issue. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Controlling iTunes from an iPhone
Only complaint I have is it is a bit laggy. Couple seconds before iTunes responds. I was helping with the Christmas program at my church where they had a CD of music/sound effect tracks to be played at certain points and I thought it would be much easier to do that via the iPhone remote to my laptop than fiddle with the CD player. The couple seconds delay made it a no go and I went back to just playing the sounds from iTunes via the keyboard. Worked well that way. CB On 12/15/12 7:01 PM, chris bruinenberg wrote: I couldn't agree more. It's one of my favorite applications. On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: It's also useful if you are playing music through your computer, but are not right at the keyboard, or maybe you're in another application and it's just more convenient to hit next on your phone or iPod than to switch out of what you are doing to change the song or select a new playlist. On 12/15/12, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, The app is just called Remote and it is developed by Apple themselves. I use it when I have iTunes playing through Airplay to either of the sound systems in our house. If I don't feel like the song that is playing, I can skip to the next or totally change the Playlist if I wish. It is especially useful when we are outside around the fire pit listening to music and I wish to control the music that is playing. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-12-15, at 2:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote: Hi folks, Please forgive my ignorance. What is the name of the remote app in question? Also, how does controlling itunes from your iphone differ from controlling it on your computer? What is to be gained? thanks Pam Francis On Dec 15, 2012, at 2:59 PM, chris bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Max. Yes, it's very possible. Download the remote application made by apple. It will prompt you to type in a code on the amc and then you can control the mac with your phone with iTunes. I use this quite frequently, it works like a charm. THanks. Chris On Dec 15, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello all, I have been told that it is possible to control iTunes from an iPhone. Is this correct? If so how is this possible? Thanks for any help. Max. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
locking the mac update
Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Well darn. It works for me! Sorry to hear that. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: time machine basics
Hey John, Thanks a lot. I got the hang of it now, and it works beautifully. Thanks for your clear explanation. Paul. On Dec 30, 2012, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote: There are two ways to view Time Machine backups. 1. You can open up your backups folder in Finder from the Time Machine Partition you are using. This will show you a chronological list of folders that contain backups for that date and time. It will be like looking at your entire file system in the present, but it will, instead, reflect the specific date or time you have opened. This is the way I will often use to fish out files I have deleted in the past and need to recover. It's probably the easier way to do it. 2. YOu can use the Open Time Machine option from the Dock or the Status menu. This will be based on what last had the focus. So, if you were in Finder, it will relate to Finder backups. If you are in Mail, it will be in regard to previous versions of that mailbox. When you open Time Machine like this, you should here a strange sound that is like a sonogram for a few moments. Then, use the Window chooser menu with VO-F2 twice. YOu will see an item, Time Machine Controls. VO space on that and navigate to the slider that will have your Time Machine incremental backups. Interact and choose the date and time you want to view. YOu use the Window Chooser Menu to select the actual backup from the time you have chosen. So, for example, you will see your Finder as it had looked back on November 3, 2012, or something like that. You just close the window or hit escape when you want to close the Time Machine controls. I hope this helps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 30, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear and clever listers, There is something very basic with time machine it seems, that I cannot get my head around. I have backed up for months, and I restored an entire machine once. That went well. But, what if I want to browse what is on my backups? When I choose open time machine from the status menus, I land in the finder. Now, I'm not a complete fool, because several parts of me are still missing, but I suspect that this cannot be the finder, and has to be part of my backup. A number of questions I have. 1. How do I know when these files were backed up? 2. How do I get to an overview of my macintosh hd, earlier in time than what is initially displayed? 3. Can I search my entire time machine disk for a certain file name or a bit of contents, and then get an overview from which I can restore? 4. How does the restore process work? Can I command c, close all and command v? I didn't see any questions or answers to this as of lately, so I think this is clear to anyone. I'm using time machine, and it already saved my day once, because I restored an entire machine with it, having booted off the recovery partition. But I'd like to use time machine to have access to my entire backup set. Please explain how you go about this. Thank you in advance for your time. Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
How did you discover this? I was wondering if and how I can lock my Mac desktop the same way I can do in Windows and glad it exists. Christopher Hallsworth On 04/01/2013 22:37, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
I pressed random buttons. I hope it works! I will upload audio of it. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: How did you discover this? I was wondering if and how I can lock my Mac desktop the same way I can do in Windows and glad it exists. Christopher Hallsworth On 04/01/2013 22:37, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Display Questions
Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: Braille Display Questions
I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: locking the mac update
Just curious. Why would anybody want to do that? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Well I use it to lock people out if I leave the room! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Just curious. Why would anybody want to do that? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Hmmm that's weird. It takes me straight to my login window. Well sorry to all' Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
Before anybody asks I've tried multiple times. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
I tried it and it went to the login window. When I tried to voice over to the password field, I was back in my mail where I was before trying the shortcut. On 2013-01-04, at 6:11 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm that's weird. It takes me straight to my login window. Well sorry to all' Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: locking the mac update
THat's crazy. It is supposed to take you to the log-in window. But if you have a password, it does the same thing. I don't know, maybe it's not that cool but i've been looking for something that would be similar to the windows+l command was with windows. I always locked my computer, because i was working at a job where they would fire you on the spot if you didn't lock it so i've gotten in a habit of doing it. :) On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I tried it and it went to the login window. When I tried to voice over to the password field, I was back in my mail where I was before trying the shortcut. On 2013-01-04, at 6:11 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm that's weird. It takes me straight to my login window. Well sorry to all' Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
Question mark is dots 2 3 6. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
You know, I do remember hearing David say that the app was developed by someone over in Italy, so, now that you mention it, I suppose you're right on the different standards. I forget that just because it's English doesn't mean that English uses all one braille table. So yeah, you have a very very good point that I didn't even admittedly consider. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 7:27 PM Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
OK, so that, they did! keep the same. I didn't know if they did that, or revertted to the t h sign like in computer braille. Did they use the low f for the exclaimation point, or is that gonna be the t h e sign, or what? Also, has anyone yet found the apostrophy? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 7:40 PM Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired Question mark is dots 2 3 6. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: Braille Display Questions
Chkristine. I just gfigured out how to interact with messages with your braille display. I thought it would work, and it did. Try pressing space bar with dots 2-3-6. I tested the other day to uninteract. That command is space bar and the dots 3-5-6. In other words, spacebar with the question mark to do it, and space bar with the low j to undo it. If you want to turn your speech off, do space bar and the letter m together. By the way, screen curtain is space bar and the for sign together. The muting command is same one if you want your speech back. Regards, Gigi On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Braille Display Questions
Hi. I have created my own command for this space with J. You can create keyboard commands on the display, however, they can only be for VoiceOver specific keyboard commands. For example, VO plus J works fine, but command Q, which is an OSX command, will not work. Apparently there is some kind of Apple scripting way of doing this, but I don't know how. SO in short, yes, you can program your display to use specific functions related to VoiceOver, but not any keyboard command that is generalized to the Mac. You'll find that some keyboard commands on the Mac already have a braille equivalent, such as space with 2-3-6 to interact with items and space with 3-5-6 to stop interacting. Scott On 1/4/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with BrailleTouch. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK will be onboard sometime soon as well. Scott On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with BrailleTouch. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
Can you ever say that again! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK will be onboard sometime soon as well. Scott On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with BrailleTouch. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Re: Braille Display Questions
HI Gigi. She was asking about VO plus J, which jumps to the text content of an email mesage. This is different than interacting with an item. I'm not trying to be rude or anything like that, I just thought I should clerify. Unless I'm the one off base here? Scott On 1/4/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have created my own command for this space with J. You can create keyboard commands on the display, however, they can only be for VoiceOver specific keyboard commands. For example, VO plus J works fine, but command Q, which is an OSX command, will not work. Apparently there is some kind of Apple scripting way of doing this, but I don't know how. SO in short, yes, you can program your display to use specific functions related to VoiceOver, but not any keyboard command that is generalized to the Mac. You'll find that some keyboard commands on the Mac already have a braille equivalent, such as space with 2-3-6 to interact with items and space with 3-5-6 to stop interacting. Scott On 1/4/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: Braille Display Questions
Hi Scott. I realize that she was talking about Vo J and that it is different. However, I tested it, and it works anyway on email messages. I did that before I wrote the post. I wanted to see if it would work. It did. In fact, I wonder if these commands VO J and the usual interacting command are interchangeable. I'll test it and find out. On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: HI Gigi. She was asking about VO plus J, which jumps to the text content of an email mesage. This is different than interacting with an item. I'm not trying to be rude or anything like that, I just thought I should clerify. Unless I'm the one off base here? Scott On 1/4/13, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have created my own command for this space with J. You can create keyboard commands on the display, however, they can only be for VoiceOver specific keyboard commands. For example, VO plus J works fine, but command Q, which is an OSX command, will not work. Apparently there is some kind of Apple scripting way of doing this, but I don't know how. SO in short, yes, you can program your display to use specific functions related to VoiceOver, but not any keyboard command that is generalized to the Mac. You'll find that some keyboard commands on the Mac already have a braille equivalent, such as space with 2-3-6 to interact with items and space with 3-5-6 to stop interacting. Scott On 1/4/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
Scott Sorry but UEB won't solve this issue. It only applies to English speaking countries so the Europeans will keep their braille codes. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 2:15 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK will be onboard sometime soon as well. Scott On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with BrailleTouch. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received
Re: Braille Display Questions
Thanks Iggie, I'll try that. You can customize some things under Braille in the Voiceover utility, but you can only customize the choices that are offered and so many things are not. Apple has a way to go with their Braille support on the Mac. I'm hoping it's better on the iOS platform. I've heard it is. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Chkristine. I just gfigured out how to interact with messages with your braille display. I thought it would work, and it did. Try pressing space bar with dots 2-3-6. I tested the other day to uninteract. That command is space bar and the dots 3-5-6. In other words, spacebar with the question mark to do it, and space bar with the low j to undo it. If you want to turn your speech off, do space bar and the letter m together. By the way, screen curtain is space bar and the for sign together. The muting command is same one if you want your speech back. Regards, Gigi On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: Braille Display Questions
Hi again Kristeen. Well, I discovered that it doesn't always work. I got it to work the first time, but when I tried it again, it didn't work. In fact, it's real strange. It interacts and then says dimmed, even though it's still there and everything. I got the space D to work to delete an email. Say, let me know if you get the same result. Regards, Gigi On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Iggie, I'll try that. You can customize some things under Braille in the Voiceover utility, but you can only customize the choices that are offered and so many things are not. Apple has a way to go with their Braille support on the Mac. I'm hoping it's better on the iOS platform. I've heard it is. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Chkristine. I just gfigured out how to interact with messages with your braille display. I thought it would work, and it did. Try pressing space bar with dots 2-3-6. I tested the other day to uninteract. That command is space bar and the dots 3-5-6. In other words, spacebar with the question mark to do it, and space bar with the low j to undo it. If you want to turn your speech off, do space bar and the letter m together. By the way, screen curtain is space bar and the for sign together. The muting command is same one if you want your speech back. Regards, Gigi On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J command to get into the message. That is just an example. Kristeen On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote: I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well. On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. Best of luck deciding on one! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: I think the code is for the Focus. Les On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Kristeen. VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't find each other right away. After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for Christmas. Regards, Gigi On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started. Scott On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: you can email me off list if you like. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot of things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so as not to clutter? Please??? Kristeen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
Re: locking the mac update
hmmm. If you press command-shift-Q and tell OSX to reopen your recently-opened windows, it accomplishes the same thing, albeit with a bit of time added. In any case, this keystroke doesn't work for me. When I leave my house, though, I use command-shift-q to log out and then log back in when I'm ready to use the computer again. You can also use command-control-eject to restart and command-option-control-eject to shut down. This works best with no windows open. HtH, Teresa We're made of star-stuff.--Carl Sagan On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: THat's crazy. It is supposed to take you to the log-in window. But if you have a password, it does the same thing. I don't know, maybe it's not that cool but i've been looking for something that would be similar to the windows+l command was with windows. I always locked my computer, because i was working at a job where they would fire you on the spot if you didn't lock it so i've gotten in a habit of doing it. :) On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Bender rbende...@gmail.com wrote: I tried it and it went to the login window. When I tried to voice over to the password field, I was back in my mail where I was before trying the shortcut. On 2013-01-04, at 6:11 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm that's weird. It takes me straight to my login window. Well sorry to all' Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Guess what, didn't work for me neither. What's actually supposed to happen? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Chris, for some reason this didn't work for me. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 On 2013-01-04, at 3:37 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. A few weeks ago, i posted asking how to lock the mac. A simular command seams to work for me and I thought I would share it. It's similar to the windows+l command on windows where it locks your screen and takes you to the log in window. It's control+shift+eject. Hope that is of interest to anybody. Thanks. Chris Bruinenberg skype: cbruin7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
garage band question.
I've just started using Garage band, and have just been playing around with it, and so far can only get the piano portion of the pre-programed instruments to work, which makes no sense to me, considering the fact that my dad got this for his phone, and has been able to get all of them to work, and has recorded several tracks with it. Am I missing something here? Even when I get the piano keyboard up and running, I can't figure out how the keyboard itself is laid out, so even then, I can't seem to play an actual tune on it, which is really frustrating, so any help someone could give me would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garage band question.
you don't say what keyboard you're using. is it a midi keyboard, or the on screen keyboard. Have you gone into the track info group and browsed the different instruments? - Original Message - From: Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:04 PM Subject: garage band question. I've just started using Garage band, and have just been playing around with it, and so far can only get the piano portion of the pre-programed instruments to work, which makes no sense to me, considering the fact that my dad got this for his phone, and has been able to get all of them to work, and has recorded several tracks with it. Am I missing something here? Even when I get the piano keyboard up and running, I can't figure out how the keyboard itself is laid out, so even then, I can't seem to play an actual tune on it, which is really frustrating, so any help someone could give me would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Tones in iOS6
Hi list, VoiceOver has serious problems focusing on my personalised/purchased ring tones in iOS6. When I go into Settings Sounds Ring Tone there is a section for all the ring tones I have purchased or created myself. However, I get different results when I flick right through the list compared with when I start at the end and flick left. I get different results again if I just touch randomly on the screen somewhere in that list. Some of the ring tones I have synced don't seem to be showing up at all. But this could just be a VoiceOver focus problem, rather than a problem with syncing. Is anyone else having this issue? Does anyone know of a solution or work around? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Song Genie
HI list, Has anyone here used Song Genie on the Mac for iTunes? I have bought it but have trouble using it. It seems accessible so far as all the buttons and menus are labelled etc, but I can't tell if/when it has updated song info or whether it requires some more input from me. If anyone has had any success with this app I'd really appreciate some help. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired
What is u e d anyway? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:46 PM Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired Scott Sorry but UEB won't solve this issue. It only applies to English speaking countries so the Europeans will keep their braille codes. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 2:15 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK will be onboard sometime soon as well. Scott On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with BrailleTouch. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write in cumbersome. That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in mind? As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in the app store this month. www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea which doesn't really work in practice. Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with it from the sound of what you say. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X. I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm just wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me understand the logic of a few things. First, the logic side of it: 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the next point. 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in computer braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator. 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or in computer braille was the number 2. 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. Now for my questions. 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is that still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? 4. How do I do a question mark? 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc. I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. If it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to complain, believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Tones in iOS6
I noticed that last night, oddly enough, but thought it was just Voiceover being stupid. Like me, are you using an IPhone 5? This didn't happen with my 4S. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:31 PM Subject: Tones in iOS6 Hi list, VoiceOver has serious problems focusing on my personalised/purchased ring tones in iOS6. When I go into Settings Sounds Ring Tone there is a section for all the ring tones I have purchased or created myself. However, I get different results when I flick right through the list compared with when I start at the end and flick left. I get different results again if I just touch randomly on the screen somewhere in that list. Some of the ring tones I have synced don't seem to be showing up at all. But this could just be a VoiceOver focus problem, rather than a problem with syncing. Is anyone else having this issue? Does anyone know of a solution or work around? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adobe Connect
Hello, is anyone familiar with Adobe Connect, by chance? An instructor in one of my classes is using it for weekly meetings, and I was wondering about its accessibility. Given that it is Adobe, I'm not sure. It allows users to both text chat and voice chat, and also allows the presenter to share his or her screen so that users, such as me, are able to see the screen; the presenter also has the option of showing PowerPoint presentations and the like. I wasn't able to find any direct information about accessibility on the website; only references to problems logging in, and the like. Thanks, Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue?
In the case where voiceover remains at the louder distorted volume after a call is ended, I have had this happen a few times over the past few months. I think something just fails to initialize back to where it is suppose to be after the call in those cases. If you are able to make another call to something that won't matter and then disconnect that call, it will then have the opportunity to set itself right and it normally does. It probably makes the carrier crazy if you do it, but I have usually used 611 for those purposes. Just call 611 and then hang up. Of course you are not waiting on the line for a person or something. Fortunately though the IPhone 5 boots up quick and so reboots are noticeably less annoying in terms of the time consumed than they were on older devices. On 1/4/13, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris I haven't had those exact issues with my iPhone 5. I have my ringer volume set not to be changed by the buttons. I do find vo chats more incessantly during a call which annoys me, but it's not loud at all. I just can't shut her up. Sometimes though, if I've made a phone call using the phone alone and not the head set, voice over really distorts badly after the call is over, so I have to turn the phone off and back on again. It's like the phone call messes with the volume which makes voice over super loud and distorting after the call is over. So something is going on here but not sure what. I, too, love my iPhone. Lisette On 5/01/2013, at 6:00 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, keep in mind that the 3GS had a few issues with the speaker. For one thing, I vaguely remember that it would distort really really badly if you turned it way up. The 5 isn't like that. I can crank it to full max, and it still maintains a very! very! cristal clear sound. I just don't like it blaring the hell outta me when I'm in a call. I do know one thing I could! do, to get around the issue, but it's really a poor man's work around. If you basically put the phone up to your ear and then somehow can lock your screen, while it's up to your ear on the receiver, not on speaker phone, which I don't know how to do that unless you have headphones plugged in initially, then you won't hear the notification be read out, provided under settings, general, accessibility you have that feature shut off, which I think by default, it is. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Has anyone with an IPhone 5 also had this issue? Hi, I have a 3gs and when I am using my phone without speakers, It is quite lould. I think it is something to do with ios itself. Justmy thought. matthew Dyer matthewdyer...@msn.com On Jan 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Michael Babcock wrote: Chris; I am having both of these issues with my iPhone 4S, running iOS six. I also tried changing the localization for Siri, for example switching it to the UK voice. I found that I was additionally having the same volume issue that you are having. Related to the notifications, that is very irritating when it occurs. I typically have to have someone repeat themselves when they are speaking to me on the phone. http://empoweringtheblind.com Empowering the blind, one person at a time. On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I just bit the bullet today and now have gotten an IPhone 5. God! Blessid! I love this thing! I do however have one very minor yet extremely irritating problem, and I didn't know if maybe I forgot to set something, or maybe if this is actually an IPhone 5 issue. First of all, let's talk about Siri. One thing I notice is that when she speaks back to me, even though I have Voiceover at a real comfortable volume, she is extremely quiet on the Siri side of things. Yes, I did turn it up while she was in the process of speaking, just like you do to raise the Voiceover volume. That worked, but I then find that sometimes if I use Siri dictation, when she repeats back what she's insertting into the text box, it's again really quiet. I'll turn it back up, but then later after a few times of use, she'll notcher self right back down. It's totally strange! I don't get it! Yeah, I did power off the phone and back on just in case of a glitch. I also did quickly quintupple rapidly do the 5 click press on the sleep button to reset my springboard. That did no good either. The other problem is, say I'm on a call and I get a text message, or say a Facebook alert etc. Voiceover reads thenotification so loudly that it almost blows my eardrum! The first time it happened, I almost through the thing across the room as it scared me so badly. (OK, that's being a bit exagerant, but you
