Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have speakable 
items on.
I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.

Lisette

s very quick if I stay within the same app.

On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will check 
 tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  I do 
 recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort of 
 lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks for the feedback, guys. i have a late 2009 Mac Mini running Mavericks. 
It doesn't lag if I invoke the command immediately the second and subsequent 
times.

I don't use dictation at all on the Mac. Do speakable items have to do with 
dictation? I'll try disabling them and see what happens.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Mar 30, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
 only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have speakable 
 items on.
 I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.
 
 Lisette
 
 s very quick if I stay within the same app.
 
 On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will check 
 tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  I do 
 recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort of 
 lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
I found my speakable items settings in Accessibility. I understand now that it 
has to do with speech recognition and not with dictation specifically. The 
speakable items setting was off all along. I've turned dictation off as well, 
but still get the same lag.

Teresa

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On Mar 30, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
 only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have speakable 
 items on.
 I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.
 
 Lisette
 
 s very quick if I stay within the same app.
 
 On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will check 
 tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  I do 
 recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort of 
 lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Still another VMWare Fusion Question

2014-03-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
May I ask when you installed Windows 8, how did you get it to speak as I could 
not get it to speak when I installed it under an unattended instalation. 
Perhaps you could write to me off list so as not to clutter people's mail boxes.

Thanks.

Kawal.

 On 31 Mar 2014, at 01:23 am, Barry Abbott bpabbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have been trying to purchase AVG Anti Virus and Spyware and when I press 
 the buy button I get the message make sure the Virtual Machine's 
 configuration allows guest hosts
 I have checked the archives, searched using google tried to get around in the 
 VMWAre support and can't seem to find an answer.
 
 I have also looked under preferences and the Window's settings using command 
 e I am pretty sure that VMWare tools are installed but cannot figure out how 
 to access them. What am I missing?
 
 Any assistance in correcting this configuration issue would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Note I am using Windows 8.1 and VmWare Fusion 6. 
 
 Thanks, Barry Abbott
 
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Re: how to hear the sound loops on the garage band

2014-03-31 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
thank you very much, i should press the real loop instead of the name of the 
loop
On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:41 am, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 If I understand your question about hearing the loops correctly, in GB10 you 
 Shift-VO-Spacebar--perform a hardware type mouse click with VoiceOver, on the 
 loop to listen to it.  You, then, perform the same action again to stop 
 listening.  While a loop is playing, you can move up  down through loops 
 with the arrow keys  continue listening to each new loop.  I'm afraid I 
 can't help with your second question.
 
 Good luck,
 
 CJ
 
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 how to listen the loops with voice over on the garage band, please help., 
 and can i record audio at the same time with video?
 
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iPad backup and restore

2014-03-31 Thread Chris G
Hi,
I currently have an iPad 3rd generation and just purchased an iPad mini
but haven't received it yet.

I have just backed my iPad up to the mac with iTunes.

When I get the new iPad mini what is the best way to restore the backup
 to the new mini?

I assume I power it up and go through the setup process but am unsure
after that.
Thanks

Chris

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Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
You have not mentioned about the [control voiceover by apple scripts check box]
So I was wondering if you have that checked or if it has become unchecked!
VO utility [VO+f8 and you should be on general just arrow across to find that 
check box and if unchecked just check it! *smile*
That should fix that problem!
HTH Colin

On 31 Mar 2014, at 07:34, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 I found my speakable items settings in Accessibility. I understand now that 
 it has to do with speech recognition and not with dictation specifically. The 
 speakable items setting was off all along. I've turned dictation off as well, 
 but still get the same lag.
 
 Teresa
   
 We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
 only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have 
 speakable items on.
 I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.
 
 Lisette
 
 s very quick if I stay within the same app.
 
 On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will check 
 tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  I do 
 recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort 
 of lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: IOS apps and TV access

2014-03-31 Thread Buddy Brannan
I can guarantee you it doesn't have Apple TV built in. Oh the irony!
On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 So we are going to buy a new, or at least new for us, TV. We're looking at a 
 Samsung 55=inch, don't know the exact model but it's last year's hot Samsung 
 TV. 
 
 The salesperson, in typical salesperson hype, said that it has Apple TV built 
 in. How does this work? 
 
 Can I control it through my phone or MBP? 
 
 He said there was an app, Samsung Smart Remorte, or something like that. 
 anyone used this? 
 
 Accessibility thoughts? the regular remote that comes with the TV scares me 
 enough. Is there a universal remote app I can use with Samsung TVs? 
 
 Help! :)
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Re: IOS apps and TV access

2014-03-31 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi,

Yes the app you have described works ok.  There are a lot of unlabeled so it is 
very tricky, but if you play around with it you ccan do some things like change 
the chanel up and down.  HTH.

Matthew


On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 So we are going to buy a new, or at least new for us, TV. We're looking at a 
 Samsung 55=inch, don't know the exact model but it's last year's hot Samsung 
 TV. 
 
 The salesperson, in typical salesperson hype, said that it has Apple TV built 
 in. How does this work? 
 
 Can I control it through my phone or MBP? 
 
 He said there was an app, Samsung Smart Remorte, or something like that. 
 anyone used this? 
 
 Accessibility thoughts? the regular remote that comes with the TV scares me 
 enough. Is there a universal remote app I can use with Samsung TVs? 
 
 Help! :)
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: IOS apps and TV access

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Blouch
This is probably what the sales person was confused about. You can get 
an Apple iPhone app to control the TV but that's not AppleTV. That said, 
this is the battle currently being waged. Should the TV be 'smart' and 
support apps, web surfing etc or should it be a dumb screen which you 
connect to smart boxes like AppleTV or whatever you like? For me, I like 
to choose my stuff and want to plug in the device of my choosing, which 
currently is a Mac Mini. My in-laws have some kind of big flast screen 
with web surfing and such but they don't even use it. Just to cumbersome 
with a remote. I did get to go to Comcast's unveiling of their talking 
set-top box at CSUN which was impressive. They had an iPhone app and 
when you hit the button and said tune the weather channel the set top 
box changed the channel as expected. The whole interface on the box 
itself had speech so, like an iPhone, everything you navigated to would 
speak what it was. Quite nice. I was talking to some of the folks and 
they apparently took the Siri approach where they render the speech on 
their server farm and download it to the box on the fly. This makes it 
much easier to fix/improve things in the future without having to push 
out major software changes to a jillion boxes.


CB

On 3/30/14 8:19 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

Go to the app store. Double tap on the search At the bottom of the display. 
Type in Samsung remote. Double tap the search button. Several possible Samsung 
remote apps appear. The first one on my search is probably the one the store 
clerk was talking about. Download the app and see if it is accessible. The app 
is free.

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:56, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

So we are going to buy a new, or at least new for us, TV. We're looking at a 
Samsung 55=inch, don't know the exact model but it's last year's hot Samsung TV.

The salesperson, in typical salesperson hype, said that it has Apple TV built 
in. How does this work?

Can I control it through my phone or MBP?

He said there was an app, Samsung Smart Remorte, or something like that. anyone 
used this?

Accessibility thoughts? the regular remote that comes with the TV scares me 
enough. Is there a universal remote app I can use with Samsung TVs?

Help! :)
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Assigning braille commands with the Braille Edge 40

2014-03-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys 
I think I have figured out the problem that is causing some folks some grief. I 
went to the VoiceOvg Utility and tried to assign a new braille command to a 
braille key. I wanted to assign one for the Mac command accent symbol for going 
between windows. I could not get VoiceOver to let me add a row to the table, 
even though the directions says that you can add a row. As far as I can tell, 
the Mac just ignored me when I pressed the add button. If I am right here, this 
means you can only use the ones that are already assigned, the ones that are in 
the manuals from Apple and HIMS. This may be a problem with other braille 
displays, too, I don't know. 

I think in order for this to work you have to able to type in the meaning of 
the key and then be able to press command b like the instructions say when you 
are in the section for the braille key description. You also have to be able to 
type in the text for the key description and what it does, or it's useless. As 
far as I can tell right now, this does not work, for this braille display. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

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Re: unfollowing people with key commands in Night Owl

2014-03-31 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hello.
I am new to twitter and I just started to use this program myself. 
How do you follow someone from within this application? 
Is there somewhere a list of shortcuts or a tutorial?

Thanks.
Nektarios.

On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 As you may have already found, the drawer also holds the information for the 
 user - location, bio, follower counts, and so on. You can also block the user 
 from there, in the user action menu popup. I wish there was a quick way to 
 jump to and interact with it, but at least we can access it.
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks much. I always wondered what the drawer did. 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Not a quick way. Go to a tweet from them (you don't need to interact with 
 anything, just have VO say the tweet) then find the drawer. Interact, go to 
 the 'user action menu, and activate the popup menu. Choose following 
 status, then, from that submenu, stop following.
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
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 Is there a quick way to unfollow people in Night Owl? 
 
 Also, when using the listed keyboard commands, do you have to be 
 interacting with the message or just the table?
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Re: Assigning braille commands with the Braille Edge 40

2014-03-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
This has been going on for years as I can remember, you could never find 
commands using a braille display.

 On 31 Mar 2014, at 04:42 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys 
 I think I have figured out the problem that is causing some folks some grief. 
 I went to the VoiceOvg Utility and tried to assign a new braille command to a 
 braille key. I wanted to assign one for the Mac command accent symbol for 
 going between windows. I could not get VoiceOver to let me add a row to the 
 table, even though the directions says that you can add a row. As far as I 
 can tell, the Mac just ignored me when I pressed the add button. If I am 
 right here, this means you can only use the ones that are already assigned, 
 the ones that are in the manuals from Apple and HIMS. This may be a problem 
 with other braille displays, too, I don't know. 
 
 I think in order for this to work you have to able to type in the meaning of 
 the key and then be able to press command b like the instructions say when 
 you are in the section for the braille key description. You also have to be 
 able to type in the text for the key description and what it does, or it's 
 useless. As far as I can tell right now, this does not work, for this braille 
 display. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
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Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Teresa Cochran
Good thought, Colin. however, it was already checked. :)

Teresa

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 Hi!
 You have not mentioned about the [control voiceover by apple scripts check 
 box]
 So I was wondering if you have that checked or if it has become unchecked!
 VO utility [VO+f8 and you should be on general just arrow across to find that 
 check box and if unchecked just check it! *smile*
 That should fix that problem!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 31 Mar 2014, at 07:34, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I found my speakable items settings in Accessibility. I understand now that 
 it has to do with speech recognition and not with dictation specifically. 
 The speakable items setting was off all along. I've turned dictation off as 
 well, but still get the same lag.
 
 Teresa
  
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 On Mar 30, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
 only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have 
 speakable items on.
 I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.
 
 Lisette
 
 s very quick if I stay within the same app.
 
 On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will 
 check tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  
 I do recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this 
 sort of lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
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Re: Assigning braille commands with the Braille Edge 40

2014-03-31 Thread John Panarese
   Oddly enough, I can assign commands with the Braille Edge.  I just go to the 
bottom of the table and do the command-b.  Then, I press the combination I 
desire and provided I am not duplicating an existing command, it will appear in 
the table and I then can assign the combination with the popup menu.


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On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi guys 
 I think I have figured out the problem that is causing some folks some grief. 
 I went to the VoiceOvg Utility and tried to assign a new braille command to a 
 braille key. I wanted to assign one for the Mac command accent symbol for 
 going between windows. I could not get VoiceOver to let me add a row to the 
 table, even though the directions says that you can add a row. As far as I 
 can tell, the Mac just ignored me when I pressed the add button. If I am 
 right here, this means you can only use the ones that are already assigned, 
 the ones that are in the manuals from Apple and HIMS. This may be a problem 
 with other braille displays, too, I don't know. 
 
 I think in order for this to work you have to able to type in the meaning of 
 the key and then be able to press command b like the instructions say when 
 you are in the section for the braille key description. You also have to be 
 able to type in the text for the key description and what it does, or it's 
 useless. As far as I can tell right now, this does not work, for this braille 
 display. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
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Re: iPad drops contact with shared library

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Blouch
As some background, years ago I had an 802.11B or G router (can't recall 
which) that would drop connections when I used my particular Panasonic 
wireless phone. Apparently that phone ran on the same 2.4GHz radio band 
as the Wifi which is also the same band as my microwave oven. In other 
words, that radio band is crowded such that using my microwave made 
noise on the phone while using my phone would cause my wifi to slow to a 
crawl or drop. The oven is old so apparently it is not as shielded as 
newer ones. Anyway, I never could get the wifi and phone to cooperate 
and ended up having to get a newer phone. Apparently the newer ones are 
'frequency agile' and will hop around noisy parts of the spectrum such 
as my wifi and microwave. After that I had no more problems. I ended up 
giving the old phone to my inlaws who put it in their detached garage, 
away from everything else.


CB

On 3/27/14 8:13 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Nope.  Your devices will just grab the signal they need no matter 
which channel is being broadcast.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com 
mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Thanks Tim,
the router is on channel 6. If I change it to 11, do I have to do 
anything to other wireless devices using the network?

Thanks again.
Max

On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:19 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

It could have something to do with the signal your router is 
delivering, that is, B, G or N signal.  If it is an older router and 
a newer iPad, they often don't like each other that much and this 
sort of thing isn't out of the ordinary.  The other option is signal 
interference from things like cordless phones and such.  These sorts 
of wireless devices often interfere with the WiFi signal at those 
older frequencies.  Make sure that those kinds of devices are not 
set close to the router itself and you may wish to change which 
signal frequency your router emits.  If it is transmits using 
channel 6, maybe change it to channel 11.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com 
mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Hi,
I have my Mac set to sleep after 3 hours. This is not an issue in 
this case as I was working on my computer and my wife was listening 
to music on the iPad. Yesterday it was dropping out after 15-20 
minutes.

Thanks for the help.
Max

On 28 Mar 2014, at 12:02 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

First, confirm that the computer delivering the Shared iTunes 
Library is not going to sleep.  You can set those settings in the 
Energy Saver pane of System Preferences.  Make sure that the 
computer never goes to sleep and that only the display goes to 
sleep.  This should eliminate that as an issue and can look at the 
router next.


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Re: Assigning braille commands with the Braille Edge 40

2014-03-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Ok, John. How did you get to the bottom of the table? That is an obvious 
question, I guess, but obviously I'm doing something wrong. VoiceOver says to 
go to Add so that's why I did it that way. The other thing is, when you press 
command b, how does it know what command you are telling the key to set itself 
to? Or, can you set commands for the ones on the table? 

Regards,
Gigi 

On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:00 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

   Oddly enough, I can assign commands with the Braille Edge.  I just go to 
 the bottom of the table and do the command-b.  Then, I press the combination 
 I desire and provided I am not duplicating an existing command, it will 
 appear in the table and I then can assign the combination with the popup menu.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
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 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Lion
 
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 On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys 
 I think I have figured out the problem that is causing some folks some 
 grief. I went to the VoiceOvg Utility and tried to assign a new braille 
 command to a braille key. I wanted to assign one for the Mac command accent 
 symbol for going between windows. I could not get VoiceOver to let me add a 
 row to the table, even though the directions says that you can add a row. As 
 far as I can tell, the Mac just ignored me when I pressed the add button. If 
 I am right here, this means you can only use the ones that are already 
 assigned, the ones that are in the manuals from Apple and HIMS. This may be 
 a problem with other braille displays, too, I don't know. 
 
 I think in order for this to work you have to able to type in the meaning of 
 the key and then be able to press command b like the instructions say when 
 you are in the section for the braille key description. You also have to be 
 able to type in the text for the key description and what it does, or it's 
 useless. As far as I can tell right now, this does not work, for this 
 braille display. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
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Re: login and keychain password

2014-03-31 Thread Robert C

Tim,
   I know I saw the Display name option somewhere and am certain my 
full name is there.


   Here is what I have so far. In the display login window part are 2 
radio buttons, one for 'list all users' and one for 'name and password'. 
If the first one is selected. I have to navigate to my account and then 
only have to type in the password. If the other option is selected, I 
have to type in both name and password. I will leave this the way it is 
for now. Gotta get to work on other things in the Mac.


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the right person.
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On 3/30/2014 9:38 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

In the Users  Groups pane of System Preferences, you may have accidentally deleted the text 
for your Display name.  Your Short Name cannot be removed, so the account remains OK. 
 You can fix this by going into the Users  Groups pane again, clicking the lock at the 
bottom of the pane and entering your password to unlock this pane, then you should be able to 
navigate around and find the field for the text of your Name.  What you've done by changing the 
format to actually require typing of both your name and password will do the trick but you may 
wish to fix the Display name as well.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


   Think I fixed this. It was after logging in I would hear 'noname volume'. 
Not too sure now what I did. But now when I log in, I have to type my name and 
then password where before it was just the password.

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On 3/30/2014 5:40 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

When do you hear the no name?  After you login or when the login screen 
appears?  If it's after you login, then VO is likely just telling you what has VO focus 
the after login process has completed.  This could be a thumb drive sort of thing that 
you have plugged in the USB port.  If that's not the case, I'll see what I can figure out 
after your answers to my questions.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


   Ok got VO speaking at login, opted to keep system safe.

   But I think I changed an option I did not need to. I hear 'noname' now. 
Before I mess anything else up, which option was that so I can put that right? 
Thanks.

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On 3/27/2014 5:59 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

The VO at login option is in the Login Options area within the Users  Groups 
pane of System Preferences as well.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


Tim,
   Valid points and I should consider that the Mac being a portable device, I 
ought to leave it in a secure state.

   I may have disabled VO somehow at login so if I turn it back on, logins will 
be easier and heck, can just leave the macnine running all day.

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On 3/26/2014 9:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

If I'm understanding correctly, you'd like your computer to go directly to your 
Desktop without a Login screen.  That's not a recommended behaviour because if 
your machine is stolen or accessed by someone else, they have easy access to 
all your personal files.  Now, if that isn't a concern to you, then do the 
following:

* go to the Apple menu and choose System Preferences.
* Select Users  Groups.
* Unlock the pane by pressing on the lock near the bottom of the pane, then 
enter your password.
* Interact with the Users, Groups  Login Options List near the top of the pane.
* navigate to the last item in that list, it should be Login Options.
* Stop Interacting with the list then navigate right to the Automatic Login 
pop-up.
* select which user you want to automatically login to on startup.
* close System Prefs.

That should do it.  A few things to note though.  If you have iCloud keychain 
turned on, this is definitely a bad idea as your saved passwords and such are 
more easily accessed by anyone who gains access to your machine.  If you don't 
use that feature, then it's not such a big deal other than what I mentioned 
earlier.  If the Automatic login pop-up is dimmed, then you did not unlock the 
pane yet.  If this is the way you wish to have your computer configured, make 
sure that you still have a password set so that your Mac, at least, requires 
that Admin password for installations or modifications 

Re: jump to window with braille edge and mac

2014-03-31 Thread Robert C

Alex,
   I will see if I can find that file. I need to work with Finder and 
get familiar with it so this might be a good place to start.


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On 3/30/2014 8:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

I don't think so. That said, I'm sure it is in a .plist file somewhere; Google 
might be able to help you there more than I could.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


Alex,
   Found it. Is there a way to print this list to a file?

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On 3/29/2014 10:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Sorry I wasn't clearer. Hit VO-f8 to open the Voiceover Utility. Arrow down to Braille, 
vo-right to the displays tab, and hit space. Find the table of displays, and arrow to the 
Edge, then vo-right to the Assign Commands button. That opens a window with 
the full list of commands and their braille keys, plus instructions on how to change an 
assignment if you want to.
On Mar 30, 2014, at 12:20 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


Alex,
   Yes I can do that, map keys but its too soon on the Mac experience yet. Why 
I am so fouused on a good list tho is that I am too new to the Mac and dont 
want to stumble around.

   When you say to go to display settings and look at the table, this is on the 
Mac? That might be just what I want. Thanks.

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On 3/29/2014 8:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

You can re-assign the keys on any braille display for the Mac. The best way to figure 
things out is to toss out the Hims command list, except for special scroll key commands, 
and go off what the Mac says. Open up your display settings, go to assign 
commands, and look at the table; those are the mappings your Edge will use.

As to the vo-j, yes, that's the command I mean. VoiceOver calls it jump to linked 
item, and if memory serves, it's in the Nvigation menu when you are choosing the 
command.
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Don and Alex,
   There has to be an updated list somewhere but it looks to be invisible. 
HIMS' and Apple's have lists but they do not agree with each other and when the 
Edge is in VO help mode, that too is not in agreement.

   I got the iPhone list sorted out but not the Mac. Wish HIMS would get on it.

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On 3/29/2014 7:51 PM, don bishop wrote:

Thanks Alex.
What I am doing is in mail I use  the classic view and have filters set up  for 
several mailboxes.  So, I arrow down the list of mailboxes and when I come 
across one containing messages I hit vo j to jump  to the list of actual 
messages.

Hope that clarifies.
Don


- Original Message -
From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: jump to window with braille edge and mac




I haven't looked in the menus, so it might not be there. Based on your subject, though, 
you might be looking for the wrong thing. The command you want to assign is jump to 
linked item. I'm pretty sure I've seen it, but don't have a display right here to 
check.

On Mar 29, 2014, at 10:14 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:


Hi,
I have a braille edge 40 which I use as a display and input device with my imac.
There are commands to do a lot of things, but I can't find an equivalent to the 
vo j command.  Does anyone know if this command is supported and if so what is 
the key combination?

Thanks,
Don


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Re: Assigning braille commands with the Braille Edge 40

2014-03-31 Thread John Panarese
  I interact and use got to end with VO-shift-end.


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On Mar 31, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Ok, John. How did you get to the bottom of the table? That is an obvious 
 question, I guess, but obviously I'm doing something wrong. VoiceOver says to 
 go to Add so that's why I did it that way. The other thing is, when you press 
 command b, how does it know what command you are telling the key to set 
 itself to? Or, can you set commands for the ones on the table? 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi 
 
 On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:00 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Oddly enough, I can assign commands with the Braille Edge.  I just go to 
 the bottom of the table and do the command-b.  Then, I press the combination 
 I desire and provided I am not duplicating an existing command, it will 
 appear in the table and I then can assign the combination with the popup 
 menu.
 
 
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 On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys 
 I think I have figured out the problem that is causing some folks some 
 grief. I went to the VoiceOvg Utility and tried to assign a new braille 
 command to a braille key. I wanted to assign one for the Mac command accent 
 symbol for going between windows. I could not get VoiceOver to let me add a 
 row to the table, even though the directions says that you can add a row. 
 As far as I can tell, the Mac just ignored me when I pressed the add 
 button. If I am right here, this means you can only use the ones that are 
 already assigned, the ones that are in the manuals from Apple and HIMS. 
 This may be a problem with other braille displays, too, I don't know. 
 
 I think in order for this to work you have to able to type in the meaning 
 of the key and then be able to press command b like the instructions say 
 when you are in the section for the braille key description. You also have 
 to be able to type in the text for the key description and what it does, or 
 it's useless. As far as I can tell right now, this does not work, for this 
 braille display. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
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Re: how to hear the sound loops on the garage band

2014-03-31 Thread CJ Daniel
Nope,

Press on the name of the loop.  At least that's the way I do it.

CJ


On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:43 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 thank you very much, i should press the real loop instead of the name of the 
 loop
 On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:41 am, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If I understand your question about hearing the loops correctly, in GB10 you 
 Shift-VO-Spacebar--perform a hardware type mouse click with VoiceOver, on 
 the loop to listen to it.  You, then, perform the same action again to stop 
 listening.  While a loop is playing, you can move up  down through loops 
 with the arrow keys  continue listening to each new loop.  I'm afraid I 
 can't help with your second question.
 
 Good luck,
 
 CJ
 
 
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 how to listen the loops with voice over on the garage band, please help., 
 and can i record audio at the same time with video?
 
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seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi all,
I was directed to where there used to be a copy of the Snow leopard one, but 
it seems to be gone  .anyone still have a copy of this user  guide?

Thanks much,
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Re: iPad drops contact with shared library

2014-03-31 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
I am reasonably sure that my phones are on 5GHZ band, so that shouldn’t be the 
problem. I am still having problems with the iPad continuing to play music. I 
called Apple but of course the problem did not occur when I was talking with 
them.
Max

On 1 Apr 2014, at 6:04 am, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 As some background, years ago I had an 802.11B or G router (can't recall 
 which) that would drop connections when I used my particular Panasonic 
 wireless phone. Apparently that phone ran on the same 2.4GHz radio band as 
 the Wifi which is also the same band as my microwave oven. In other words, 
 that radio band is crowded such that using my microwave made noise on the 
 phone while using my phone would cause my wifi to slow to a crawl or drop. 
 The oven is old so apparently it is not as shielded as newer ones. Anyway, I 
 never could get the wifi and phone to cooperate and ended up having to get a 
 newer phone. Apparently the newer ones are 'frequency agile' and will hop 
 around noisy parts of the spectrum such as my wifi and microwave. After that 
 I had no more problems. I ended up giving the old phone to my inlaws who put 
 it in their detached garage, away from everything else.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/27/14 8:13 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Nope.  Your devices will just grab the signal they need no matter which 
 channel is being broadcast.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Tim,
 the router is on channel 6. If I change it to 11, do I have to do anything 
 to other wireless devices using the network?
 Thanks again.
 Max
  
 On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:19 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It could have something to do with the signal your router is delivering, 
 that is, B, G or N signal.  If it is an older router and a newer iPad, 
 they often don’t like each other that much and this sort of thing isn’t 
 out of the ordinary.  The other option is signal interference from things 
 like cordless phones and such.  These sorts of wireless devices often 
 interfere with the WiFi signal at those older frequencies.  Make sure that 
 those kinds of devices are not set close to the router itself and you may 
 wish to change which signal frequency your router emits.  If it is 
 transmits using channel 6, maybe change it to channel 11.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have my Mac set to sleep after 3 hours. This is not an issue in this 
 case as I was working on my computer and my wife was listening to music 
 on the iPad. Yesterday it was dropping out after 15-20 minutes.
 Thanks for the help.
 Max
 
 On 28 Mar 2014, at 12:02 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 First, confirm that the computer delivering the Shared iTunes Library is 
 not going to sleep.  You can set those settings in the Energy Saver pane 
 of System Preferences.  Make sure that the computer never goes to sleep 
 and that only the display goes to sleep.  This should eliminate that as 
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Re: seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread Brian Moore

I think I do.  I shall have a look.
Brian.

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On 31/03/2014 4:02 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi all,
I was directed to where there used to be a copy of the Snow leopard 
one, but it seems to be gone  .anyone still have a copy of this user  
guide?

Thanks much,
Karen



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Re: seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread John Panarese
   On my website, I have all of the previous user guides in the resources 
section under documentation.


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 Thanks much,
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Re: iPad drops contact with shared library

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Blouch
What kind of router is it and can you tell what networking is it using 
(802.11G or 802.11N)? 2007 is right about when the 802.11N routers came 
out and many of those were built using the draft standards which means 
they didn't get everything right. 802.11N also can run in the 5GHz range.


CB

On 3/31/14 4:56 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi,
I am reasonably sure that my phones are on 5GHZ band, so that 
shouldn’t be the problem. I am still having problems with the iPad 
continuing to play music. I called Apple but of course the problem did 
not occur when I was talking with them.

Max

On 1 Apr 2014, at 6:04 am, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com 
mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


As some background, years ago I had an 802.11B or G router (can't 
recall which) that would drop connections when I used my particular 
Panasonic wireless phone. Apparently that phone ran on the same 
2.4GHz radio band as the Wifi which is also the same band as my 
microwave oven. In other words, that radio band is crowded such that 
using my microwave made noise on the phone while using my phone would 
cause my wifi to slow to a crawl or drop. The oven is old so 
apparently it is not as shielded as newer ones. Anyway, I never could 
get the wifi and phone to cooperate and ended up having to get a 
newer phone. Apparently the newer ones are 'frequency agile' and will 
hop around noisy parts of the spectrum such as my wifi and microwave. 
After that I had no more problems. I ended up giving the old phone to 
my inlaws who put it in their detached garage, away from everything else.


CB

On 3/27/14 8:13 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Nope.  Your devices will just grab the signal they need no matter 
which channel is being broadcast.


Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com 
mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Thanks Tim,
the router is on channel 6. If I change it to 11, do I have to do 
anything to other wireless devices using the network?

Thanks again.
Max

On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:19 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

It could have something to do with the signal your router is 
delivering, that is, B, G or N signal.  If it is an older router 
and a newer iPad, they often don’t like each other that much and 
this sort of thing isn’t out of the ordinary.  The other option is 
signal interference from things like cordless phones and such. 
 These sorts of wireless devices often interfere with the WiFi 
signal at those older frequencies.  Make sure that those kinds of 
devices are not set close to the router itself and you may wish to 
change which signal frequency your router emits.  If it is 
transmits using channel 6, maybe change it to channel 11.


Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com 
mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Hi,
I have my Mac set to sleep after 3 hours. This is not an issue in 
this case as I was working on my computer and my wife was 
listening to music on the iPad. Yesterday it was dropping out 
after 15-20 minutes.

Thanks for the help.
Max

On 28 Mar 2014, at 12:02 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

First, confirm that the computer delivering the Shared iTunes 
Library is not going to sleep.  You can set those settings in 
the Energy Saver pane of System Preferences.  Make sure that the 
computer never goes to sleep and that only the display goes to 
sleep.  This should eliminate that as an issue and can look at 
the router next.


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Re: seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread Karen Lewellen

That was perfect thanks!
Kare

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, John Panarese wrote:


  On my website, I have all of the previous user guides in the resources 
section under documentation.


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seems to be gone  .anyone still have a copy of this user  guide?
Thanks much,
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Re: iPad drops contact with shared library

2014-03-31 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
the router is a Billion BiPac 7300G running 802.11G.
Thanks again for the help.
Max

On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:24 am, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 What kind of router is it and can you tell what networking is it using 
 (802.11G or 802.11N)? 2007 is right about when the 802.11N routers came out 
 and many of those were built using the draft standards which means they 
 didn't get everything right. 802.11N also can run in the 5GHz range.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/31/14 4:56 PM, Agent086b wrote:
 Hi,
 I am reasonably sure that my phones are on 5GHZ band, so that shouldn’t be 
 the problem. I am still having problems with the iPad continuing to play 
 music. I called Apple but of course the problem did not occur when I was 
 talking with them.
 Max
 
 On 1 Apr 2014, at 6:04 am, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 As some background, years ago I had an 802.11B or G router (can't recall 
 which) that would drop connections when I used my particular Panasonic 
 wireless phone. Apparently that phone ran on the same 2.4GHz radio band as 
 the Wifi which is also the same band as my microwave oven. In other words, 
 that radio band is crowded such that using my microwave made noise on the 
 phone while using my phone would cause my wifi to slow to a crawl or drop. 
 The oven is old so apparently it is not as shielded as newer ones. Anyway, 
 I never could get the wifi and phone to cooperate and ended up having to 
 get a newer phone. Apparently the newer ones are 'frequency agile' and will 
 hop around noisy parts of the spectrum such as my wifi and microwave. After 
 that I had no more problems. I ended up giving the old phone to my inlaws 
 who put it in their detached garage, away from everything else.
 
 CB
 
 On 3/27/14 8:13 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Nope.  Your devices will just grab the signal they need no matter which 
 channel is being broadcast.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
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 On Mar 27, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Tim,
 the router is on channel 6. If I change it to 11, do I have to do 
 anything to other wireless devices using the network?
 Thanks again.
 Max
  
 On 28 Mar 2014, at 10:19 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It could have something to do with the signal your router is delivering, 
 that is, B, G or N signal.  If it is an older router and a newer iPad, 
 they often don’t like each other that much and this sort of thing isn’t 
 out of the ordinary.  The other option is signal interference from 
 things like cordless phones and such.  These sorts of wireless devices 
 often interfere with the WiFi signal at those older frequencies.  Make 
 sure that those kinds of devices are not set close to the router itself 
 and you may wish to change which signal frequency your router emits.  If 
 it is transmits using channel 6, maybe change it to channel 11.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have my Mac set to sleep after 3 hours. This is not an issue in this 
 case as I was working on my computer and my wife was listening to music 
 on the iPad. Yesterday it was dropping out after 15-20 minutes.
 Thanks for the help.
 Max
 
 On 28 Mar 2014, at 12:02 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 First, confirm that the computer delivering the Shared iTunes Library 
 is not going to sleep.  You can set those settings in the Energy Saver 
 pane of System Preferences.  Make sure that the computer never goes to 
 sleep and that only the display goes to sleep.  This should eliminate 
 that as an issue and can look at the router next.
 
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Re: seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
Since my computer was under snow kitty for three days after I got it, I have a 
copy of the snow leopard manual on my computer that I don't need. Of course, 
you can get it from John's website just as well, but I think I've got it if you 
need it.
Gigi

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 On Mar 31, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:
 
 That was perfect thanks!
 Kare
 
 On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, John Panarese wrote:
 
  On my website, I have all of the previous user guides in the resources 
 section under documentation.
 
 
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 I was directed to where there used to be a copy of the Snow leopard one, 
 but it seems to be gone  .anyone still have a copy of this user  guide?
 Thanks much,
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Re: seeking an early voiceover getting started guide?

2014-03-31 Thread Karen Lewellen
Most kind of you to provide this offer.  I think John has met my needs, and 
Brian   as well.
In fact I better be sure just which one is on this ibook lol. sl I am 
almost certain.

Much appreciation,
Kare

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Eugenia Firth wrote:


Hi there
Since my computer was under snow kitty for three days after I got it, I have a 
copy of the snow leopard manual on my computer that I don't need. Of course, 
you can get it from John's website just as well, but I think I've got it if you 
need it.
Gigi

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That was perfect thanks!
Kare


On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, John Panarese wrote:

 On my website, I have all of the previous user guides in the resources section 
under documentation.


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seems to be gone  .anyone still have a copy of this user  guide?
Thanks much,
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Re: login and keychain password

2014-03-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

OK, if that is working for you and your comfortable with it, then that's the 
best thing for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 31, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tim,
   I know I saw the Display name option somewhere and am certain my full name 
 is there.
 
   Here is what I have so far. In the display login window part are 2 radio 
 buttons, one for 'list all users' and one for 'name and password'. If the 
 first one is selected. I have to navigate to my account and then only have to 
 type in the password. If the other option is selected, I have to type in both 
 name and password. I will leave this the way it is for now. Gotta get to work 
 on other things in the Mac.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 A successful marriage isn't finding the right person-it's being
 the right person.
 Robert  Annie Yanni ke7nwn
 E-mail-
 gone.to.da...@gmail.com
 
 On 3/30/2014 9:38 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In the Users  Groups pane of System Preferences, you may have accidentally 
 deleted the text for your Display name.  Your Short Name cannot be 
 removed, so the account remains OK.  You can fix this by going into the 
 Users  Groups pane again, clicking the lock at the bottom of the pane and 
 entering your password to unlock this pane, then you should be able to 
 navigate around and find the field for the text of your Name.  What you've 
 done by changing the format to actually require typing of both your name and 
 password will do the trick but you may wish to fix the Display name as well.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Think I fixed this. It was after logging in I would hear 'noname volume'. 
 Not too sure now what I did. But now when I log in, I have to type my name 
 and then password where before it was just the password.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?
 --Groucho Marx
 Robert  Annie Yanni ke7nwn
 E-mail-
 gone.to.da...@gmail.com
 
 On 3/30/2014 5:40 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When do you hear the no name?  After you login or when the login screen 
 appears?  If it's after you login, then VO is likely just telling you what 
 has VO focus the after login process has completed.  This could be a thumb 
 drive sort of thing that you have plugged in the USB port.  If that's not 
 the case, I'll see what I can figure out after your answers to my 
 questions.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Ok got VO speaking at login, opted to keep system safe.
 
   But I think I changed an option I did not need to. I hear 'noname' now. 
 Before I mess anything else up, which option was that so I can put that 
 right? Thanks.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is 
 research.
 --Steven Wright
 Robert  Annie Yanni ke7nwn
 E-mail-
 gone.to.da...@gmail.com
 
 On 3/27/2014 5:59 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The VO at login option is in the Login Options area within the Users  
 Groups pane of System Preferences as well.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tim,
   Valid points and I should consider that the Mac being a portable 
 device, I ought to leave it in a secure state.
 
   I may have disabled VO somehow at login so if I turn it back on, 
 logins will be easier and heck, can just leave the macnine running all 
 day.
 
 Quote of the nanosecond . . .
 I am opposed to millionaires...but it would be dangerous to offer 
 me the position.
 --Mark Twain
 Robert  Annie Yanni ke7nwn
 E-mail-
 gone.to.da...@gmail.com
 
 On 3/26/2014 9:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If I'm understanding correctly, you'd like your computer to go 
 directly to your Desktop without a Login screen.  That's not a 
 recommended behaviour because if your machine is stolen or accessed by 
 someone else, they have easy access to all your personal files.  Now, 
 if that isn't a concern to you, then do the following:
 
 * go to the Apple menu and choose System Preferences.
 * Select Users  Groups.
 * Unlock the pane by pressing on the lock near the bottom of the pane, 
 then enter your password.
 * Interact with the Users, Groups  Login Options List near the top of 
 the pane.
 * navigate to the last item in that list, it should be Login Options.
 * Stop Interacting with the list then navigate right to the Automatic 
 Login pop-up.
 * select which user you want to automatically login to on startup.
 * close System Prefs.
 
 That should do it.  A few things to note though.  If you have iCloud 
 keychain turned on, this is definitely a bad idea as your saved 
 passwords and such are more easily accessed by anyone who gains access 
 to your machine.  If you don't use that feature, then 

Re: iPad backup and restore

2014-03-31 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
You can either restore from iCloud in the setup, or you can connect to iTunes, 
and restore from your backup with in iTunes. Both ways work fine.
On Mar 31, 2014, at 3:59 AM, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I currently have an iPad 3rd generation and just purchased an iPad mini
 but haven't received it yet.
 
 I have just backed my iPad up to the mac with iTunes.
 
 When I get the new iPad mini what is the best way to restore the backup
 to the new mini?
 
 I assume I power it up and go through the setup process but am unsure
 after that.
 Thanks
 
 Chris
 
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Re: iPad drops contact with shared library

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Blouch
Well, if it's 802.11G then it's not going to interfere with phones 
running at 5GHz. Maybe the device is reaching its end of life? I poked 
around in some forums and apparently there have been firmware updates 
for this device. Have you ever done a firmware update? Is this hardware 
supplied by your ISP? If so, maybe you can contact them about dropouts. 
They might have a few suggestions.


CB

On 3/31/14 5:53 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi,
the router is a Billion BiPac 7300G running 802.11G.
Thanks again for the help.
Max

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mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


What kind of router is it and can you tell what networking is it 
using (802.11G or 802.11N)? 2007 is right about when the 802.11N 
routers came out and many of those were built using the draft 
standards which means they didn't get everything right. 802.11N also 
can run in the 5GHz range.


CB

On 3/31/14 4:56 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi,
I am reasonably sure that my phones are on 5GHZ band, so that 
shouldn’t be the problem. I am still having problems with the iPad 
continuing to play music. I called Apple but of course the problem 
did not occur when I was talking with them.

Max

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mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


As some background, years ago I had an 802.11B or G router (can't 
recall which) that would drop connections when I used my particular 
Panasonic wireless phone. Apparently that phone ran on the same 
2.4GHz radio band as the Wifi which is also the same band as my 
microwave oven. In other words, that radio band is crowded such 
that using my microwave made noise on the phone while using my 
phone would cause my wifi to slow to a crawl or drop. The oven is 
old so apparently it is not as shielded as newer ones. Anyway, I 
never could get the wifi and phone to cooperate and ended up having 
to get a newer phone. Apparently the newer ones are 'frequency 
agile' and will hop around noisy parts of the spectrum such as my 
wifi and microwave. After that I had no more problems. I ended up 
giving the old phone to my inlaws who put it in their detached 
garage, away from everything else.


CB

On 3/27/14 8:13 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Nope.  Your devices will just grab the signal they need no matter 
which channel is being broadcast.


Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Thanks Tim,
the router is on channel 6. If I change it to 11, do I have to do 
anything to other wireless devices using the network?

Thanks again.
Max

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mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

It could have something to do with the signal your router is 
delivering, that is, B, G or N signal.  If it is an older router 
and a newer iPad, they often don’t like each other that much and 
this sort of thing isn’t out of the ordinary.  The other option 
is signal interference from things like cordless phones and 
such.  These sorts of wireless devices often interfere with the 
WiFi signal at those older frequencies.  Make sure that those 
kinds of devices are not set close to the router itself and you 
may wish to change which signal frequency your router emits.  If 
it is transmits using channel 6, maybe change it to channel 11.


Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com 
mailto:agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:



Hi,
I have my Mac set to sleep after 3 hours. This is not an issue 
in this case as I was working on my computer and my wife was 
listening to music on the iPad. Yesterday it was dropping out 
after 15-20 minutes.

Thanks for the help.
Max

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mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:



Hi,

First, confirm that the computer delivering the Shared iTunes 
Library is not going to sleep.  You can set those settings in 
the Energy Saver pane of System Preferences.  Make sure that 
the computer never goes to sleep and that only the display 
goes to sleep.  This should eliminate that as an issue and can 
look at the router next.


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folder groups and text groups in ML

2014-03-31 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi all,
I put ML on a 2010 model Macbook Pro. It was as clean an install as it could 
be. now when I go to my browser, instead of the normal column view, it says 
stuff like Folder Group and text group, and it's behaving quite strangely. 
Is there some obvious thing I'm overlooking? On my other computer with ML on 
it, it seems to be the normal column view where the name of the folder or file 
is announced, and that's it. I could really use some help here.

Friendly,
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