A question on Mac Terminal. Was: Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Hi Jason and thanks for your kind answer.
I didn't know there is a BRLTTY support mailing list, I'm going to googling 
for it.


Before leaving you, I'd like to ask you something else as you're an 
experienced Linux user.


Do you know if there are important differences in between the Unix system used 
on the Mac Terminal and what you know under Linux?

Thanks.
Gabriel. 


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Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Pam,

Honestly I don't know how useful the app is to someone who uses VoiceOver and 
already uses keyboard commander to launch the main apps that you use. What I 
have found in my limited use of Launch Bar is it does help you get to a 
specific file a little quicker and find a song in your iTunes library quicker, 
but honestly I am not sure that warrants the price, as I do find myself getting 
lost in the indexes more often than getting to something I am looking for 
quickly. I am sure with more experience I will get more accustomed to it, but 
if you are on a fixed budget I don't think you are missing anything by not 
having it. Thanks again, and unfortunately still no answer to the annoying 
VoiceOver being read through both sets of my speakers, will have to contact the 
developer I guess, have never had this happen with any other application.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:35 PM, Pamela Francis  wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> If I personally use the app, I would help you. However I'm not familiar with 
> it therefore I forwarded  to you what I was hoping would help you. At least 
> you had listen to the podcast and purchase the book.  I certainly wish I 
> could've been more help. I may check out the app when I can afford it. Right 
> now funds are little tight.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
> bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio 
> issue and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO 
> specific question so thought someone using it who also uses different 
> speakers to send VO and music through might know the answer.
>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
>> addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold 
>> by take control books. 
>> In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
>> something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
>> also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> http://www.dr-carter.com
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
>> beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
>> for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going 
>> through the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver 
>> reads whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the 
>> internal system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know 
>> is going to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what 
>> you are doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO 
>> would just read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is 
>> the way it is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth 
>> speakers since VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help 
>> in advance.
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Eileen,
   I had to check out what the pan command does. Perhaps the Apex uses 
it differently. For the Braille Sense (also a 32 cell display), it moves 
by 32 items, not cells. My note taker is set to move by line using the 
scroll buttons.


   Might this act different when the display is connected to the Mac? I 
too need to spend some time with the Edge and Mac.


Quote of the nanosecond . . .
If toast always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on
their feet, what happens if you strap toast on the back of a cat
and drop it?
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On 6/24/2014 4:42 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Robert,

Thanks for that explanation. When I reviewed the command list for the Apex,
the thumb buttons should pan the document to advance or go back to the
previous chunk of 32 cells, which is the total cells on the Apex. I'll have
to dig into this more when I have another amount of spare time to devote to
it. Thanks.

Eileen

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Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen,
 Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to be
made clear.

 The commands list in the VO guide is the list of "commom" commands that
can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.

 There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands which
on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Four things a woman should know: How to look like a girl, How to act like a
lady, How to think like a man, And how to work like a dog.
   --Author Unknown
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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hello,

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to
look at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I
would assume in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had
either a Text Edit or iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys
on the Apex interacted with the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped
interacting. Is this the way it should be acting? I do have Win 8.1
installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to use the Apex is through
either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS on the Mac Air,
but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's nice to have
a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the computer.
Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further instructions on

where to find the mapping for the Apex.


Kind regards,
Eileen

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Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
navigation to be the inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
I'll try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin



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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
how about try to chech the apogee duet mic
On 25 Jun 2014, at 12:37 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I suggest you buy a usb mixer as it gives you better sound quality.
> Though i don't know any good once.
> /A
> 24 jun 2014 kl. 14:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :
> 
>> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
>> here can help. 
>> 
>> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
>> input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
>> like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
>> 
>> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
>> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
>> up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Brian,
If I personally use the app, I would help you. However I'm not familiar with it 
therefore I forwarded  to you what I was hoping would help you. At least you 
had listen to the podcast and purchase the book.  I certainly wish I could've 
been more help. I may check out the app when I can afford it. Right now funds 
are little tight.

Pam Francis

On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio issue 
and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO specific 
question so thought someone using it who also uses different speakers to send 
VO and music through might know the answer.
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
> addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold by 
> take control books. 
> In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
> something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
> also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> http://www.dr-carter.com
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
> beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
> for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going through 
> the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver reads 
> whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the internal 
> system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know is going 
> to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what you are 
> doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO would just 
> read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is the way it 
> is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth speakers since 
> VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
The table should be there, with a bunch of commands. Arrow to a row, interact, 
go-space on the menu button that says what the command does, and you can choose 
a new command. Or, press cmd-b (I think) to change the key combination assigned 
to the currently selected command.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> HiAlex,
>  
> You are correct that space-G will toggle between contracted and uncontracted 
> braille in VO. When I poked around in the VO utility-braille and clicked on 
> "assigned keystrokes," I was only given a short countdown to input the new 
> keystroke to change the setting. Do I need to tab to a table for the list of 
> assigned keystrokes in VO for braille? This is all new to me, as I begin 
> increasing my skills and venturing out from the basics.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>  
> Best,
> Eileen
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
>  
> All commands are in VO Utility > braille > Assign Commands. There, as the 
> name suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to 
> reviewing what is already there.
>  
> As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's 
> settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or 
> disable contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a 
> command to do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking of 
> iOS.
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jason, 
> 
> Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
> using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
> document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
> commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
> noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
> assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
> still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
> on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
> the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
> The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
> use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all that have responded. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
> 
> Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
> was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
> 
> I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
> keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
> VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
> press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
> commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
> braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
> combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
> 
> Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
> commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
> keys as you wish.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
HiAlex, 

 

You are correct that space-G will toggle between contracted and uncontracted
braille in VO. When I poked around in the VO utility-braille and clicked on
"assigned keystrokes," I was only given a short countdown to input the new
keystroke to change the setting. Do I need to tab to a table for the list of
assigned keystrokes in VO for braille? This is all new to me, as I begin
increasing my skills and venturing out from the basics. 

 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

 

Best, 

Eileen 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

 

All commands are in VO Utility > braille > Assign Commands. There, as the
name suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to
reviewing what is already there.

 

As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's
settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or
disable contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a
command to do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking
of iOS.

On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
wrote:





Hi Jason, 

Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.


Thanks to all that have responded. 

Eileen 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen Misrahi  wrote:



Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
me in the right direction that would be fantastic.


I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
keys as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Using Vienna help

2014-06-24 Thread Geoff Stephens
Catherine -
If you are happy with what you are doing, by all means stick with it.  The 
reason I prefer to have the articles open in an external browser is so that I 
can quickly enable the reader with Command Shift R if it is available, thus 
saving me some time trying to find the text of articles in those sometimes very 
busy news sites.  But I have experimented with things to try to duplicate what 
is happening to you and I guess there are some advantages.

One thing that might solve the issue with getting back to the article list is 
to be sure not to have more than one article tab open.  Once you are done with 
an article, press Command W to close it and I think you should land in the 
article list.  But that may also depend on the layout.


On Jun 24, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the info, and everything you said before.  I have it set to
vertical layout but this approach still isn't working - I can arrow up
and down the folder list, press right when finding a folder I want,
arrow up and down the article list.  But then when I press VO j it
jumps me back to the folder list, not the html content.  Don't know
why.

But the good news is I found another way which seems to work well.
After finding an article I want I press enter.  I haven't set it up to
open in external browser and it seems when I press enter it opens in a
new tab but doesn't select that tab.  So I then press command option
right arrow which selects the next tab and also puts VO in the html
content.  When I've finished reading I press command w to close that
tab and I land back where I was in the article list.  So in case
anyone else has trouble perhaps you can try that method as well.
Mysterious as to why the first method isn't working for me but never
mind.

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 6/23/14, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> Make sure to use the vertical layout.  Choose Layout from the View Menu and
> set it to vertical.
> 
> You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press
> the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article
> list using up and down arrows  without having to interact with anything.
> 
> If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder
> list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on
> how much is downloaded.
> 
> Pressing Enter should open the article.  I find what works best is to set it
> so that the article opens in the external browser.  Set this in
> Preferences/General.
> I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an
> article.
> 
> 
> I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list.  Well, not
> too much more but.
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an
> efficient/convenient way of navigating around?
> 
> At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving
> across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I
> find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick
> "open article page".  This opens the article in a separate tab and I
> need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content,
> interact with and read it.
> 
> Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when
> in the articles list which should jump me to the html content.  I had
> this working at one point but it's not now.  When Ihˆ press VO j I get
> jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table.  I don't
> know what's different between when this was working and now that it's
> not.
> 
> Has anyone any suggestions on how to move a bit quicker?  Would love
> to hear how other people are using vienna.
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello Jessica, 

This is the only thing that I am having problems in with ML. I won't go as
far as a clean install of the OS, since it was a bear to get Win 8.1
installed in bootcamp. That is another topic or thread for this list in the
future. I have lived without a braille display this long, I can wait until
Yosemite comes out and hope that this can be fixed in the new operating
system. Thanks for your post and taking the time to write. 

Best, 
Eileen 
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Have you tried a reset of both devices? Kd that does not help, a clean
install of osx may be needed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, "Eileen Misrahi" 
wrote:
> 
> Hi Jason,
> 
> Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the 
> Apex using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
> document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille 
> commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help 
> and noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't 
> assigned. I'm assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke 
> with VO. The problem still exists with the inability to pan from line 
> to line and seeing the text on the Apex's braille display in 
> uncontracted braille. I also made sure that the Apex contracted braille
was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
> The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to 
> get use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be
great.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all that have responded. 
> 
> Eileen
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
> 
> Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
>> was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
>> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
> 
> I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille 
> keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you 
> invoke VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then 
> be able to press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display 
> to find out what commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver 
> documentation also lists braille display commands, most involving 
> entering braille characters in combination with the space bar, i.e., as
chords, as they used to be called.
> 
> Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated 
> with commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign 
> commands to keys as you wish.
> 
> I hope this helps.
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Robert, 

Thanks for that explanation. When I reviewed the command list for the Apex,
the thumb buttons should pan the document to advance or go back to the
previous chunk of 32 cells, which is the total cells on the Apex. I'll have
to dig into this more when I have another amount of spare time to devote to
it. Thanks. 

Eileen 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert C
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:34 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen,
Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to be
made clear.

The commands list in the VO guide is the list of "commom" commands that
can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.

There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands which
on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.

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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to 
> look at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I 
> would assume in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had 
> either a Text Edit or iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys 
> on the Apex interacted with the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped 
> interacting. Is this the way it should be acting? I do have Win 8.1 
> installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to use the Apex is through 
> either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS on the Mac Air, 
> but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's nice to have 
> a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the computer. 
> Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further instructions on
where to find the mapping for the Apex.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eileen
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin 
> Gucukoglu
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
>
> Hi Eileen,
>
> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, 
> it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd 
> encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  
> Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from 
> the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.
>
> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out 
> what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  
> I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical 
> navigation to be the inner ones.
>
> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and 
> I'll try and recreate your issue.
>
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
>

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Gabriele Battaglia  wrote:
> Doesn't any body know if BRLTTY works also to support Alva Satellite 540?

I think all of the Alva displays are supported. If you're experiencing
difficulties, the helpful people on the BRLTTY mailing list should be able to
assist.
> I'm trying to use it with NVDA on a Win 8.0 Virtualized with VmWare Fusion,
> under my iMac, but it seems not working at all.

That could be a little complicated to set up. The USB port has to be forwarded
to the virtual machine, then BRLTTY has to recognize the display, and finally
NVDA needs to connect to BRLTTY. I don't know Windows, so I can't help with
that aspect, but I use BRLTTY every day on Linux.

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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread CJ Daniel
Jenine,

You might look in to the M-Audio Fast Track or Fast Track Pro.  Those work 
pretty well with Mac.  But, I believe they're only 2 channel for the XLR's.  
On-the-other-hand, they're are more expensive models by the same manufacturer 
with 4-channels.  Also, depending on your Mac, your not limited to USB.  There 
are firewire models as well with much less latency issues.  You can use a 
firewire to Thunder Bolt adapter, from Apple, for later Macs.

CJ

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> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
> here can help. 
> 
> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
> I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
> computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
> 
> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
> up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
> Jenine Stanley
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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
I am pretty sure you are looking for an NTSC box, but I am not totally certain. 
Still, a cheap monitor these days can't be much, especially an older one. You 
will probably need a Mini Display to VGA converter if you get the NTSC box or 
an old monitor, just FYI That adapter says Mini Display, but it is the same as 
Thunderbolt and hooks up to that jack on the Mac Mini.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> Do you know what these converters are called?
> Thanks.
> /A
> 24 jun 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Alex Hall :
> 
>> That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
>> kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching 
>> for a screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be 
>> able to get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected 
>> when in reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if 
>> those are still around.
>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
>>> Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
>>> Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
>>> /A
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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Do you know what these converters are called?
Thanks.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Alex Hall :

> That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
> kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching for 
> a screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be able to 
> get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected when in 
> reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if those are 
> still around.
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
>> Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
>> Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
>> /A
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I suggest you buy a usb mixer as it gives you better sound quality.
Though i don't know any good once.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 14:55 skrev Jenine Stanley :

> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
> here can help. 
> 
> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
> I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
> computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
> 
> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
> up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Eileen,
   Tho I am far from being a proficient user of a braille display (the 
Braille Edge) with the Mac or iPhone, here is what I think may need to 
be made clear.


   The commands list in the VO guide is the list of "commom" commands 
that can be used on any braille display. Most of these seem to work.


   There is then a smaller list of commands that are specific to each 
display, assigned to the device's own buttons such as the pan commands 
which on the Edge are assigned to the scroll buttons.


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On 6/24/2014 3:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hello,

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex.

Kind regards,
Eileen

-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin



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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I never got brltty to work on my mac.
So  i gave it up and do an ssh from my linux box to my mac instead.
/A
24 jun 2014 kl. 10:02 skrev Jason White :

> Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
>> text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  
> 
> Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
> it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
Yes to both. Those are the right keys, and the key mappings are in VO Utility > 
Braille. Choose your display from the table (if you have more than one paired, 
or ever have done so) and then choose "change commands". Of course, these 
assignments have nothing to do with any Windows screen readers you use, and 
you'll need to disconnect VO before any other programs can use the Apex.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
> at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
> in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
> iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
> the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
> be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
> use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
> on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
> nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
> computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
> instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
> 
> Hi Eileen,
> 
> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
> doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
> to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
> up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
> I'm afraid.
> 
> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
> all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
> the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
> inner ones.
> 
> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
> try and recreate your issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello, 

I just responded to Jason's post on this matter. When you suggested to look
at the mapping for the Apex in VO, where would I find this? I would assume
in VO utility in braille. Is that correct? When I had either a Text Edit or
iText Express document opened, the 2 inner keys on the Apex interacted with
the doc and the 2 outer ones stopped interacting. Is this the way it should
be acting? I do have Win 8.1 installed through bootcamp, so my best bet to
use the Apex is through either JAWS or WE. Currently, I only installed JAWS
on the Mac Air, but I'm getting pretty close in installing WE also. It's
nice to have a choice when attempting to use braille to navigate the
computer. Thanks for your suggestions and I look forward to further
instructions on where to find the mapping for the Apex. 

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Hi Eileen,

To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see, it
doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd encourage you
to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.  Don't get your hopes
up for anything like the quality of support from the Windows screen readers,
I'm afraid.

With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out what
all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.  I changed
the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical navigation to be the
inner ones.

I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and I'll
try and recreate your issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Jessica D
Have you tried a reset of both devices? Kd that does not help, a clean install 
of osx may be needed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, "Eileen Misrahi"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jason, 
> 
> Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
> using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
> document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
> commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
> noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
> assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
> still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
> on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
> the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
> The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
> use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all that have responded. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
> 
> Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
>> was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
>> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
> 
> I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
> keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
> VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
> press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
> commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
> braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
> combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
> 
> Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
> commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
> keys as you wish.
> 
> I hope this helps.
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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
All commands are in VO Utility > braille > Assign Commands. There, as the name 
suggests, you can change any commands you don't like in addition to reviewing 
what is already there.

As to your braille grade, there is no relation between it and the Apex's 
settings. The Mac is driving everything, so simply be sure to enable or disable 
contracted braille in VO's braille settings. There should also be a command to 
do this, and space-g is coming to mind, but I might be thinking of iOS.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi Jason, 
> 
> Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
> using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
> document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
> commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
> noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
> assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
> still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
> on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
> the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
> The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
> use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all that have responded. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
> 
> Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
>> was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
>> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
> 
> I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
> keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
> VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
> press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
> commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
> braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
> combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.
> 
> Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
> commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
> keys as you wish.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
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RE: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Jason, 

Earlier today, I reviewed the support documents from Humanware for the Apex
using it as a braille display with VO, the "getting Started With VO"
document in the Vo help menu and the VO command help table for braille
commands. There wasn't much in the latter. I did put on keyboard help and
noticed a number of keystrokes with the Apex that weren't assigned. I'm
assuming that I can use these in assigning a keystroke with VO. The problem
still exists with the inability to pan from line to line and seeing the text
on the Apex's braille display in uncontracted braille. I also made sure that
the Apex contracted braille was turned on and it was. This is very funky.
The experience with my iPhone4 is quite different, with other items to get
use to. Any further suggestions on how to problem solve this would be great.


Thanks to all that have responded. 

Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently, but I 
> was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point 
> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.

I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to
keys as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Launch Bar Audio Question

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Pam, Thanks, yeah I had already listened to the podcast and have also 
bought the ebook and am 1/3 through the ebook but no mention of my audio issue 
and Voiceover on either the podcast or the ebook, I know this is a VO specific 
question so thought someone using it who also uses different speakers to send 
VO and music through might know the answer.
On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:

> Hello,
> Do you happen to be familiar with the tech doctor podcast? In the latest 
> addition, Dr. Carter goes through launch bar and talks about the book sold by 
> take control books. 
> In the demo, his computer is running a little fast, yet you still make it 
> something out of it. Within this email, is the link to his website. You can 
> also get it on the podcast page of iBlink Radio.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> http://www.dr-carter.com
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I just purchased Launch Bar and the ebook for it and am learning it from the 
> beginning. One thing which I doubt is covered in the ebook, I have my sound 
> for my system going through my bluetooth speakers and VoiceOver going through 
> the system speakers. For some reason when using Launch Bar VoiceOver reads 
> whatever I am doing both through my bluetooth speakers and the internal 
> system speakers, and you get a weird echo type affect which I know is going 
> to get quite annoying. Is there any way to just have VO read what you are 
> doing through one set of speakers? I would have assumed that VO would just 
> read what I am doing through the internal speakers since that is the way it 
> is set up. No clue why VO is also reading through my bluetooth speakers since 
> VO doesn't do that in any other program. Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
In my eyes the main advantage is no internet connection is required. 
Disadvantages well can't think of any other than the prerequisites in 
this guide.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 13:41, Jessica wrote:

what are the advantages of doing this?
what are the disadvantages as well?
why would someone want to create a bootible drive?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.

Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive

This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
take up at least this space.
A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
http://liondiskmaker.com/
The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.

Instructions
1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
Important!
After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App Store 
the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will be erased 
upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of the installer 
where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
arrow keys and press command-o for open.
3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications folder.
7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With quickness 
enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
activate.
Note
By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
control-option.
8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
Note
If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
Tip
Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk preferences 
so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated bootable USB flash 
drive and test your creations. You are also invited to make a donation to the 
developers which is in fact the default button so pressing return will open 
your browser allowing you to make such a donation. Finally there is a quit 
button which does what it says; quit the application. Let's then click the open 
Start-up Disk Preferences button.
12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your bootable 
USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop interacting 
with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and stop interact 
with VoiceOver do one of the following:
A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop interacting.
B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
This is assuming quickness is enabled with left-right arrows.
13. Click restart button ag

Re: How to remove write-protection from my USB-stick or flash-drive, whatever they call them these days

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
How long have you had it for?  Some flash chipsets respond to complete wear by, 
you guessed it, turning read-only.  I wonder if perhaps the disk has had it?

Did it come with software, do you remember?  Perhaps you have need of it now, 
to "Unprotect" it.  Doubt this is the real reason if you've been happily using 
it all this time though.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Using Vienna help

2014-06-24 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the info, and everything you said before.  I have it set to
vertical layout but this approach still isn't working - I can arrow up
and down the folder list, press right when finding a folder I want,
arrow up and down the article list.  But then when I press VO j it
jumps me back to the folder list, not the html content.  Don't know
why.

But the good news is I found another way which seems to work well.
After finding an article I want I press enter.  I haven't set it up to
open in external browser and it seems when I press enter it opens in a
new tab but doesn't select that tab.  So I then press command option
right arrow which selects the next tab and also puts VO in the html
content.  When I've finished reading I press command w to close that
tab and I land back where I was in the article list.  So in case
anyone else has trouble perhaps you can try that method as well.
Mysterious as to why the first method isn't working for me but never
mind.

Thanks for your help,
Catherine

On 6/23/14, Geoff Stephens  wrote:
> Make sure to use the vertical layout.  Choose Layout from the View Menu and
> set it to vertical.
>
> You should be able to use the up and down arrows in the Folder List, press
> the Right Arrow when the desired folder is located, then review the article
> list using up and down arrows  without having to interact with anything.
>
> If you choose to use VO J at that point, it should switch between the folder
> list, article list and the HTML area that displays the article depending on
> how much is downloaded.
>
> Pressing Enter should open the article.  I find what works best is to set it
> so that the article opens in the external browser.  Set this in
> Preferences/General.
> I would have given up a long while back if I had to use the menu to open an
> article.
>
>
> I think I posted a lot of other things I found on the other list.  Well, not
> too much more but.
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Catherine Turner
>  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone who uses Vienna as an RSS reader help me figure out an
> efficient/convenient way of navigating around?
>
> At the moment I'm picking a feed from the table of feeds, moving
> across and interacting with/looking through the articles table; when I
> find an article I want to read I go into the context menu and pick
> "open article page".  This opens the article in a separate tab and I
> need to go and find that tab, select it, then find the html content,
> interact with and read it.
>
> Someone on another list suggested I should be able to do a VO j when
> in the articles list which should jump me to the html content.  I had
> this working at one point but it's not now.  When Ihˆ press VO j I get
> jumped in between the articles table and the feeds table.  I don't
> know what's different between when this was working and now that it's
> not.
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> to hear how other people are using vienna.
>
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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The combo-pack may happen but I'd guess that you're not going to see a combo 
modem/airport device any time in the near future.  ISP's often have proprietary 
devices that they have entered into agreements with specific venders but, they 
often end up behind the times technology-wise.  That is, all the new Airport 
Extreme and Time Capsule devices are Wireless AC devices whereas I'd venture to 
say that those packaged with ISP's are behind a level or two.  This likely 
won't make much difference to your Internet speed but makes a huge difference 
to your internal network speed.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> i'd rather wait for that to come :)
> On 24 Jun 2014, at 11:37 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>>> i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
>>> router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router
>> 
>> Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, 
>> or buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is 
>> actually supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the 
>> modem is part of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from 
>> the ISP and can be AirPort.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sabahattin
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thanks tim

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera

On 24 Jun 2014, at 06:26 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you already have iCloud syncing of Contacts enabled between your Mac and 
> her iPhone, then this will be relatively easy.  Do the following on her 
> iPhone:
> 
> * Go into Settings/iCloud and turn off Contact syncing.
> * You will be asked what you want to do with the existing Contacts, Keep them 
> on your iPhone, or Delete them from your iPhone.
> * Double-tap on the Keep them on my iPhone.
> * Then, setup her new Apple ID and when the iCloud options come up, make sure 
> Contact syncing is turned on so that these contacts will be moved up to 
> iCloud for her.
> * You can then go through all those contacts if you wish removing ones that 
> are not important to her life.  This will not affect your contact list at all 
> once your Apple ID has been disassociated with her iPhone.
> 
> Note that, you can do similar things with other iCloud services that keep 
> data both on the iDevice and within iCloud.  One other note, is that she 
> really wouldn't be able to see anything you're doing on your computer from 
> her Mac unless she installed some surveillance kind of software.  She may be 
> able to know where you are by using Find my Mac, learn if you have any new 
> Notes, Reminders, Calendar events or have added any new Contacts or apps, 
> but, for the most part, nothing profound.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she 
>> is still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new 
>> apple id for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she 
>> might see what im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way 
>> to send her all his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,
>> 
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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i'd rather wait for that to come :)
On 24 Jun 2014, at 11:37 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:

> On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
>> i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
>> router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router
> 
> Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, 
> or buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is 
> actually supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the 
> modem is part of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from 
> the ISP and can be AirPort.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread isaac
Hi there David welcome to the list.
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On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:

> Hello David:
> Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac 
> so you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care
> 
> 
> *** Mickey Quenzer ***
> *** Assistive Technology Training And Consulting Services LLC ***
> *** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
> *** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***
> 
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, "'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
>> write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and 
>> I've been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows 
>> and, a few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll 
>> admit that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I 
>> think was more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of 
>> tutorials and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point 
>> where I absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could 
>> get one for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they 
>> arise and I also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on 
>> gaps in my knowledge which I need to fill.
>> I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
>> and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been 
>> able to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to 
>> the Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with 
>> it.  I think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up 
>> to Apple and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see 
>> between iOS and Yosemite this fall.
>> thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: transferring contacts to a family member

2014-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

If you already have iCloud syncing of Contacts enabled between your Mac and her 
iPhone, then this will be relatively easy.  Do the following on her iPhone:

* Go into Settings/iCloud and turn off Contact syncing.
* You will be asked what you want to do with the existing Contacts, Keep them 
on your iPhone, or Delete them from your iPhone.
* Double-tap on the Keep them on my iPhone.
* Then, setup her new Apple ID and when the iCloud options come up, make sure 
Contact syncing is turned on so that these contacts will be moved up to iCloud 
for her.
* You can then go through all those contacts if you wish removing ones that are 
not important to her life.  This will not affect your contact list at all once 
your Apple ID has been disassociated with her iPhone.

Note that, you can do similar things with other iCloud services that keep data 
both on the iDevice and within iCloud.  One other note, is that she really 
wouldn't be able to see anything you're doing on your computer from her Mac 
unless she installed some surveillance kind of software.  She may be able to 
know where you are by using Find my Mac, learn if you have any new Notes, 
Reminders, Calendar events or have added any new Contacts or apps, but, for the 
most part, nothing profound.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she 
> is still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new apple 
> id for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she might see 
> what im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way to send her 
> all his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,
> 
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Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread Mickey Quenzer
Hello David:
Welcome aboard the list it's definitely a good place to learn about your Mac so 
you have a good day and it's nice to hear a voice from the past! Take care


*** Mickey Quenzer ***
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*** Web site: http://www.attacs.net ***
*** Phone: 541-218-3975 ***

> On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:06 PM, "'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
> write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
> been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
> few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
> that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
> more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
> and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
> absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
> for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
> also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
> knowledge which I need to fill.
> I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
> and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
> to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
> Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
> think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
> and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
> iOS and Yosemite this fall.
> thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Goldfield,
> 
> 
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> Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> Feel free to visit my new Web site
> http://www.davidgoldfield.info/
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Re: Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Alex Hall
That is a problem with some Minis (mine included). You need a screen of some 
kind, even if the screen is off, or the Mac spends so much time searching for a 
screen that it slows down. There are also converters you used to be able to 
get, which would trick the Mac into thinking a screen was connected when in 
reality all that was there was a little box, but I don't know if those are 
still around.
On Jun 24, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

> Hi!
> I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
> Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
> Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
> /A
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Screenless mac.

2014-06-24 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have problems with my Mac Mini when i disconnect the screen i have.
Especially Itunes and mail is getting quite slow.
Is there a sollution to this or is it something i have to live with.
/A

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Re: iCloud and aliases

2014-06-24 Thread Robert C

Sabahattin,
   Thanks. It should work ok in Thunderbird for now. Its just a bit 
different from what I am used to but I can work with it and get ready to 
move over to the Mac.


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On 6/23/2014 10:38 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi Robert,

An alias (in iCloud terminology) is simply another recognised address for your 
account.  Apple Mail automatically allows you to choose from among your enabled 
aliases as the sender, but in other email software you will have to manually 
supply such addresses as potential From: addresses.  You may use any of your 
aliases at any time.  Therefore, tell Thunderbird that you would like to send 
from multiple From: addresses, or if you can control the field at time of 
sending, just do that.

Be aware that iCloud SMTP servers do not allow you to send mail from any 
address not your own.  This is not normally a problem unless you are sending 
mail on behalf of someone else, which typical usage wouldn't result in you 
doing.  However, you can redirect mail from Apple Mail without issue.

Cheers,
Sabahattin



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Re: Learning bash.

2014-06-24 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
hi, a fast feminine search gave me this from google.

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/

On 6/24/14, Gabriele Battaglia  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I would like to face my terminal on a scientific way learning the bash
> language.
> Does anybody have some basic document or web page where starting from?
> My knoledge about bash old by mac terminal is zero.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gabriel.
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Learning bash.

2014-06-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Hi all.
I would like to face my terminal on a scientific way learning the bash 
language.

Does anybody have some basic document or web page where starting from?
My knoledge about bash old by mac terminal is zero.

Thanks.

Gabriel. 


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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
Eric, 

What kinds of problems might I encounter with the USB mixer? I like no hum. 
Although I have a range of cables for the line-in, I haven't marked the 
troublesome ones or gotten rid of them. My bad there. 
Jenine Stanley
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On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:

> Hello,
> One important thing mentioning here is that if you go with a USB mixer, you 
> will eliminate the analog to digital conversion step that will be used if you 
> use a tradational line-in mixer. Now this isn't saying that you will notice 
> any degraded audio, but this may become a problem. Also, if you chose to go 
> with a USB mixer, you will not experience any hums and other annoyances, if 
> for some reason, your line-in cable is not properly shielded. 
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley  
> wrote:
> Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a 
> more practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not 
>> go with a small USB mixer instead?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe 
>>> someone here can help. 
>>> 
>>> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
>>> input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
>>> like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
>>> 
>>> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
>>> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be 
>>> taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
>>> Jenine Stanley
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Doesn't any body know if BRLTTY works also to support Alva Satellite 540?
I'm trying to use it with NVDA on a Win 8.0 Virtualized with VmWare Fusion, 
under my iMac, but it seems not working at all.

Thanks for every info.
Gabriel. 


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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Erik Heil
 Hello,
One important thing mentioning here is that if you go with a USB mixer, you
will eliminate the analog to digital conversion step that will be used if
you use a tradational line-in mixer. Now this isn't saying that you will
notice any degraded audio, but this may become a problem. Also, if you
chose to go with a USB mixer, you will not experience any hums and other
annoyances, if for some reason, your line-in cable is not properly
shielded.

Erik


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Jenine Stanley 
wrote:

> Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a
> more practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>
> I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why
> not go with a small USB mixer instead?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
>
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley 
> wrote:
>
> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe
> someone here can help.
>
> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in
> input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things
> like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic.
>
> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected
> to the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be
> taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :)
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
Ray and Cameron for suggesting the USB mixers. that actually sounds like a more 
practical answer. I knew someone here would have such an answer. :)
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not 
> go with a small USB mixer instead?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
>> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
>> here can help. 
>> 
>> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in 
>> input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things 
>> like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
>> 
>> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
>> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
>> up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. Something like one of the alesis multi mix USB mixers would work for that.

Cameron.





On 6/24/14, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not
> go with a small USB mixer instead?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
>
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley 
> wrote:
>
>> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe
>> someone here can help.
>>
>> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in
>> input. I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things
>> like the computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic.
>>
>> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected
>> to the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be
>> taken up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :)
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I'd say you got it about right:  but, here's some food for thought.  Why not go 
with a small USB mixer instead?


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

> This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
> here can help. 
> 
> I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. 
> I want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
> computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 
> 
> Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to 
> the Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken 
> up by the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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audio question

2014-06-24 Thread Jenine Stanley
This is possibly not a question specifically for this list but maybe someone 
here can help. 

I am looking at acquiring a small mixer with 4 outputs and one line in input. I 
want to use this to record interviews, podcasts and to mix things like the 
computer sound, i-phone and other things with a mic. 

Can I then also have say a pair of Aftershokz Blues headphones connected to the 
Mac to hear what I'm doing as my one and only line-in jack will be taken up by 
the mixer? Or am I making this too hard? :) 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Jessica
what are the advantages of doing this?
what are the disadvantages as well?
why would someone want to create a bootible drive?
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
>> can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? 
>> and please tell me how, thanks in advance
>> dionipher
>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.
>>> 
>>> Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive
>>> 
>>> This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to 
>>> install Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
>>> A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other 
>>> files take up at least this space.
>>> A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available 
>>> from
>>> http://liondiskmaker.com/
>>> The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
>>> Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.
>>> 
>>> Instructions
>>> 1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
>>> Important!
>>> After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App 
>>> Store the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will 
>>> be erased upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of 
>>> the installer where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
>>> 2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in 
>>> the image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file 
>>> with just arrow keys and press command-o for open.
>>> 3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
>>> command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your 
>>> applications folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, 
>>> command-shift-a to open the Applications folder and command-v to paste. 
>>> Once copied close all Finder windows with command-w so you're at the 
>>> desktop and eject the disk image by first highlighting it with just arrow 
>>> keys and press command-e for eject.
>>> 5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
>>> 6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications 
>>> folder.
>>> 7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
>>> vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With quickness 
>>> enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
>>> button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
>>> activate.
>>> Note
>>> By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
>>> control-option.
>>> 8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
>>> operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
>>> 9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 
>>> 8 GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make 
>>> sure your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
>>> Note
>>> If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
>>> volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
>>> Tip
>>> Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
>>> cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
>>> 10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about 
>>> any busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just 
>>> doing its work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when 
>>> prompted. VoiceOver makes a clicking type sound when in password text 
>>> fields.
>>> 11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk 
>>> preferences so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated 
>>> bootable USB flash drive and test your creations. You are also invited to 
>>> make a donation to the developers which is in fact the default button so 
>>> pressing return will open your browser allowing you to make such a 
>>> donation. Finally there is a quit button which does what it says; quit the 
>>> application. Let's then click the open Start-up Disk Preferences button.
>>> 12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your 
>>> bootable USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop 
>>> interacting with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and 
>>> stop interact with VoiceOver do one of the following:
>>> A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop 
>>> interacting.
>>> B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop 
>>> interacting. This is assuming quickness is enabled

Re: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Phil Halton
An interesting note about setting the tempo: a three finger swipe in the tempo 
picker will move by 8 or 10 bpm instead of just one at a time with a dingle 
finger swipe.

On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> 
> Hi, Scott.
> 
> I downloaded the app and although several of the buttons are unlabelled, the 
> app will do exactly what I want it to do.  The app is also free.
> 
> Another good thing about the app is that it will run while other audio apps 
> are running, provided you launch TempoPerfect last.  By the way, the spelling 
> of the app is TempoPerfect.
> 
> This app meets the bill.
> 
> Thank you very much and best regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 24,Jun,2014, at 11:41, Scott Erichsen  wrote:
> 
>> Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014 7:06 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?
>> 
>> Hi. 
>> 
>> I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
>> the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
>> app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
>> music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

You can but only if your mac does not include an internal optical drive.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 24/06/2014 09:54, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:


This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.

Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive

This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
take up at least this space.
A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
http://liondiskmaker.com/
The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.

Instructions
1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
Important!
After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App Store 
the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will be erased 
upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of the installer 
where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
arrow keys and press command-o for open.
3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications folder.
7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With QuickNav 
enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
activate.
Note
By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
control-option.
8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
Note
If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
Tip
Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk preferences 
so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated bootable USB flash 
drive and test your creations. You are also invited to make a donation to the 
developers which is in fact the default button so pressing return will open 
your browser allowing you to make such a donation. Finally there is a quit 
button which does what it says; quit the application. Let's then click the open 
Start-up Disk Preferences button.
12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your bootable 
USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop interacting 
with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and stop interact 
with VoiceOver do one of the following:
A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop interacting.
B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
This is assuming QuickNav is enabled with left-right arrows.
13. Click restart button again to confirm you want to restart the computer.
14. Your USB flash drive should now boot up and eventually display the Mac OS X 
Utilities with the applications table having keyboard focus. How long it takes 
depends on your USB flash drive. On my Verbatim 64 GB USB flash drive it takes 
about thirty seconds.
15. To enable the whole operation to talk and output to Braille if you have 
such facilities requires starting VoiceOver. To do this press command-F5. You 
may hear a different voi

Re: Introduction From New List Member

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi, David,

Wow, there's a name from the past.  My name is Mike Busboom, and we 
corresponded with one another in an earlier life.

I went to your website, and I will go back frequently.

Welcome to the list.  I'm still in Vienna after all these years.

Mike

On 19,Jun,2014, at 21:06, 'David Goldfield' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Hello.  I have just been approved as a new member on this list and wanted to 
> write a quick intro message.  I'm an assistive technology specialist and I've 
> been in the field for over 20 years.  I am a long-time user of windows and, a 
> few years ago, my employer purchased an iMac for our classroom.  I'll admit 
> that, for a couple of years, I truly hated using the Mac, which I think was 
> more due to my 20-year windows bias.  After listening to a lot of tutorials 
> and rummaging through a lot of Web sites, I've gotten to the point where I 
> absolutely love using the Mac and would be quite pleased if I could get one 
> for my next computer.  I'm on this list to ask questions as they arise and I 
> also just want to do a lot of reading and try and catch up on gaps in my 
> knowledge which I need to fill.
> I'll tell you that even when I despised the Mac I clearly saw its benefits 
> and I probably could have given a talk to 100 people and might have been able 
> to convince most of them to at least consider switching from Windows to the 
> Mac, even while I was going through my own love-hate relationship with it.  I 
> think that my recent purchase of an iPhone also helped me to warm up to Apple 
> and I'm particularly excited at the integration we're going to see between 
> iOS and Yosemite this fall.
> thanks for being there and I'm glad this list is available.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom

Hi, Scott.

I downloaded the app and although several of the buttons are unlabelled, the 
app will do exactly what I want it to do.  The app is also free.

Another good thing about the app is that it will run while other audio apps are 
running, provided you launch TempoPerfect last.  By the way, the spelling of 
the app is TempoPerfect.

This app meets the bill.

Thank you very much and best regards,

Mike


On 24,Jun,2014, at 11:41, Scott Erichsen  wrote:

> Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014 7:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
> the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
> app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
> music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
> I haven't tried it since Leopard, so I couldn't say, however the driver
> interface meant that it was extremely limited anyway.  I have since taken to
> the song and dance of configuring VMWare to pass through my USB braille
> device (BrailleNote Apex) to a Linux VM, and then pulling and re-plugging
> quickly enough after starting a VM for it to be detected and used by Linux.
> Until VMWare pull their finger out and provide a proper way to interface
> serial devices, either to physical or software via sockets, this will have
> to suffice.  But it's worth it.  

It might be easier for those with genuine USB braille displays rather than
serial. Mine has USB, serial and Bluetooth interfaces.
> Not only is Linux a great way to get and
> install software, but it's trivial to ssh back into the Mac to get what CLI
> support is available from that platform (which I must say appears to be in a
> very sharp decline in recent times).

I've been using Linux for everything since 1998 or so, but decided this time
to buy a MacBook, partly for the hardware specifications, which are excellent,
and partly to try a different software environment that's nevertheless still
UNIX.

I'm still very much at the stage of having to search the Web a lot for
information as I come to terms with an unfamiliar operating system and its
supplied applications.

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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread alia robinson
I have used the focus display a little bit, but the braille edge is the one I'm 
getting if I get one. I want to be able to store books on it. 

The hand-copied thermaform braille is torture. I had to read a book for school 
once with it, and I litterally had to ask for an extension on the final 
assignment my fingers were so messed up. 

I just hope with this new release mac adds some braille options or at least 
improves some people are unhappy with. thanks for the comments. 

Alia
On Jun 23, 2014, at 8:57 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> I know that braille displays made braille accessible to me in a way that 
> revitalized my interest in using it.  I found a single line at a time much 
> less daunting than a 5 or 10 volume bralle book.  As for thermoform... Don't 
> get me started, especially in the muggy south west ontario summer.
> 
> When I first wen back to braille on receiving a braille display, my fingers 
> got very irritated.  I actually went to some braille proofers and asked if I 
> was likely to lose sensitivity by reading too much.  After they reassured me 
> I went nuts.  My fingers never actually bled though.  If you are experiencing 
> that, then your choice of braille display is extremely important and you will 
> want to make sure that the one you get is going to be gentle on your fingers. 
>  Of the four models I have personally used and trained on, I think that the 
> braille edge has the smoothest most comfortable dots, but this could be 
> entirely subjective.

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RE: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Scott Erichsen
Tempo perfect is a good one. Accessible and works well.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Busboom
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

Hi. 

I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need
the metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an
app that let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not
music score time signatures.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 24 Jun 2014, at 08:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:
> i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most 
> router now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router

Yeah, I know.  But you can often put your cable modem in pass-through mode, or 
buy a Draytek 120 for DSL passthrough.  In the UK, VDSL service is actually 
supplied in two boxes as standard: the modem, and the router; the modem is part 
of the national infrastructure, whereas the router comes from the ISP and can 
be AirPort.

Cheers,
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 24 Jun 2014, at 09:02, Jason White  wrote:
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
>> text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  
> 
> Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
> it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.

I haven't tried it since Leopard, so I couldn't say, however the driver 
interface meant that it was extremely limited anyway.  I have since taken to 
the song and dance of configuring VMWare to pass through my USB braille device 
(BrailleNote Apex) to a Linux VM, and then pulling and re-plugging quickly 
enough after starting a VM for it to be detected and used by Linux.  Until 
VMWare pull their finger out and provide a proper way to interface serial 
devices, either to physical or software via sockets, this will have to suffice. 
 But it's worth it.  Not only is Linux a great way to get and install software, 
but it's trivial to ssh back into the Mac to get what CLI support is available 
from that platform (which I must say appears to be in a very sharp decline in 
recent times).

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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transferring contacts to a family member

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
I would like to ask how can i edit the my mom's icloud contact, because she is 
still using my apple id on her iphone. i am planning to create a new apple id 
for her because im so afraid with the new OS this fall that she might see what 
im doing on my computer on her iphone. is there any easy way to send her all 
his contacts on my mac book? and please tell my how,

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Accessible Metronome App for iPhone?

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi. 

I am looking for an accessible metronome app for the iPhone.  I do not need the 
metronome for music; I need it for exercising.  So I'm looking for an app that 
let's me manually enter the number of audible beats per minute, not music score 
time signatures.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: Installing Mac OS X from USB flash drive

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
can i install also a cracked windows 7 on a flash drive using the bootcamp? and 
please tell me how, thanks in advance
dionipher
On 23 Jun 2014, at 02:15 pm, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> This guide I have written myself so hope you like it. It is below.
> 
> Installing Mac OS X from a USB flash drive
> 
> This guide will show you how to create a bootable USB flash drive to install 
> Mac OS X. Here are the prerequisites.
> A USB flash drive that's at least 8 GB in size. The installer and other files 
> take up at least this space.
> A program called DiskMakerX previously known as Lion Disk Maker available from
> http://liondiskmaker.com/
> The latest version of a supported operating system (Lion, Mountain Lion or 
> Mavericks) available from the Mac App Store.
> 
> Instructions
> 1. Download the above two apps listed in the prerequisites.
> Important!
> After downloading the latest supported operating system from the Mac App 
> Store the installer opens automatically. Do not proceed since the file will 
> be erased upon the reboot. Instead, press command-q at the first screen of 
> the installer where the continue button has the keyboard focus.
> 2. Open the DiskMakerX disk image in the finder. It should then appear in the 
> image browser. You can accomplish this by highlighting the dmg file with just 
> arrow keys and press command-o for open.
> 3. For reasons of better accessibility I then switch to list view with 
> command-2. Copy the only .app file in there and paste into your applications 
> folder. This is accomplished with command-c for copy, command-shift-a to open 
> the Applications folder and command-v to paste. Once copied close all Finder 
> windows with command-w so you're at the desktop and eject the disk image by 
> first highlighting it with just arrow keys and press command-e for eject.
> 5. Connect the USB flash drive to your mac before beginning the next step.
> 6. Open the DiskMakerX which should now be located in your applications 
> folder.
> 7. When prompted that Safari has downloaded this application from the web 
> vo-arrow to the open button and press vo-space to activate. With QuickNav 
> enabled with left-right arrows together you can simply navigate to the open 
> button with left or right arrow keys then press up-down arrows together to 
> activate.
> Note
> By VO throughout this guide I am talking about the VoiceOver keys which are 
> control-option.
> 8. Follow the instructions on the screen. For example when choosing the 
> operating system click either Lion, Mountain Lion or Mavericks button.
> 9. When it comes to the USB flash drive part choose to have it create as an 8 
> GB flash drive. You will be warned that all data will be erased so make sure 
> your flash drive is backed up somewhere.
> Note
> If you have previously made a bootable USB flash drive you can update the 
> volume here by clicking the appropriate button.
> Tip
> Since the application uses appropriate options as default buttons in most 
> cases, pressing return will be enough to move on to the next screen.
> 10. The preparation and copying will eventually begin. Do not worry about any 
> busy busy busy messages or that the app has no windows. It is just doing its 
> work behind the scenes. Please enter any credentials when prompted. VoiceOver 
> makes a clicking type sound when in password text fields.
> 11. When all finished, you are invited to either open Start-up Disk 
> preferences so you can quickly change to the newly created or updated 
> bootable USB flash drive and test your creations. You are also invited to 
> make a donation to the developers which is in fact the default button so 
> pressing return will open your browser allowing you to make such a donation. 
> Finally there is a quit button which does what it says; quit the application. 
> Let's then click the open Start-up Disk Preferences button.
> 12. Interact with the possible start-up disks scroll area, choose your 
> bootable USB Flash Drive by selecting the appropriate radio buttons, stop 
> interacting with the scroll area and click restart button. To interact and 
> stop interact with VoiceOver do one of the following:
> A. Press vo-shift-down arrow to interact; vo-shift-up arrow to stop 
> interacting.
> B. Press down-right arrows to interact; down-left arrows to stop interacting. 
> This is assuming QuickNav is enabled with left-right arrows.
> 13. Click restart button again to confirm you want to restart the computer.
> 14. Your USB flash drive should now boot up and eventually display the Mac OS 
> X Utilities with the applications table having keyboard focus. How long it 
> takes depends on your USB flash drive. On my Verbatim 64 GB USB flash drive 
> it takes about thirty seconds.
> 15. To enable the whole operation to talk and output to Braille if you have 
> such facilities requires starting VoiceOver. To do this press command-F5. You 
> may hear a different voice than what you're used to. This is because in 
> eff

Re: Good iPhone app for recording audio snippets

2014-06-24 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi, Paul,

Since I wasn’t looking for a recording app, I almost deleted your message 
before even reading it.  However, I’m very, very glad that I didn’t.  I 
purchased List Recorder from the Austrian app store yesterday and thus far, I 
am delighted with the app.  It was also a real pleasure hearing Neal Ewers once 
again—a real bonus.

In your note, you mentioned that List Recorder recorded in MP3 format.  When I 
went into the settings I was unable to find the setting for MP3 recording 
rates.  Could you let me know, please, if those settings are somewhere, other 
than the other recording settings where WAV and M4A are options?

Another question: I have done virtually no recording with my iPhone 4S.  Are 
the unit’s built-in microphones good enough for decent stereo recordings and, 
if not, is it possible to use binaural microphones with the unit?

Thank you very much in advance for your input,

Mike

On 22,Jun,2014, at 17:31, Paul Erkens  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If looping audio is not your priority, and you are just looking for a good 
> recorder for your iphone that lets you organize your recordings into nice 
> folders, and which is  also completely VoiceOver accessible, then you could 
> take a look at list recorder. I'm using it all day. To rehurse my tenor parts 
> for the choir I'm in, to create short shopping lists, I keep a list of how to 
> operate our washing machine which has a display, how to operate the dish 
> washer etc, notes on things to do or remember etc, or send an audio event I 
> happen to be in, to someone else by email or IMessage., like a private audio 
> boo. It records in wav, in mp3, in m4a and in caf. Also, moving recording 
> from the phone to your computer can be done via dropbox if you want. When I 
> need more space on the phone, I just upload stuff to dropbox from list 
> recorder, so that I can delete it there. Once it's in dropbox, I can clip and 
> edit it on the mac and then store it for future use.
> 
> List recorder was created with lists of recordings in mind. I initially used 
> it as such, but I found it to be such an excellent, multi-purpose  handy 
> tool, that I use it whenever recording something near me is appropriate. It's 
> by sixth mode solutions. The developer is devoted to providing good VoiceOver 
> support.
> Just look in the iphone app store.
> 
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:36 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>> What about the app Jimmy Fallon used with Billy Joel on the Tonight Show 
>> called Loopy? Dunno if it's accessible though and it's $8.
>> 
>> http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/21/5532944/jimmy-fallon-billy-joel-sing-duet-with-ipad-app
>> 
>> http://loopyapp.com
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 6/18/14, 10:08 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>>> What about garage band? It can do this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I want to record short guitar riffs and progressions on the iPhone, and 
 then be able to easily play them back - perhaps looping them if desired. 
 Kind of like an audio scratchpad with looping capabilities. The built-in 
 voice recorder app is not quite up to speed for my needs, but something 
 like that app would work.
 
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Re: more questions about braille displays

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Yep!  Braille for me, but only with BRLTTY, and only at the command line in 
> text mode.  That is the complete braille experience, IMO.  

Indeed it is. Does BRLTTY still run on OS X? It used to work - I remember
it was discussed on the BRLTTY mailing list more than once.

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Re: Apple Time Capsule vs. AirPort Extreme vs. AirPort Express - which router should you choose? | iMore

2014-06-24 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i wish they included the functionality  of the modem on it, because most router 
now have modem included, which i am using now a D-link modem router

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Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions

2014-06-24 Thread Jason White
Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently,
> but I was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point
> me in the right direction that would be fantastic. 

I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard for input, so the keys will be different. However, if you invoke
VoiceOver keyboard help with control-option-k, you should then be able to
press keys, or combinations of keys, on the braille display to find out what
commands have been assigned to them. The VoiceOver documentation also lists
braille display commands, most involving entering braille characters in
combination with the space bar, i.e., as chords, as they used to be called.

Special keys, buttons etc., on your display should also be associated with
commands. If not, you can use the VoiceOver utility to assign commands to keys
as you wish.

I hope this helps.

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