Re: read receipt

2014-09-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
At the risk of boiling this over, to be honest I don't believe Mail.app is a 
very competent email client.  It's really Outlook Express for the Mac.  Once 
upon a time Apple may have cared--signs of Eudora were written all over it--but 
they don't now; for them, the metaphor of email is shattered by the slightest 
hint of advanced functionality.  I pity them, and us.

This is as much of a source of frustration to me as anyone, because I don't 
believe we have an alternative--Thunderbird doesn't work yet, for example.  At 
best, you can use a command-line or console client such as Heirloom mailx or 
mutt/alpine.

I have already filed bugs against specific aspects of Mail.app's protocol 
implementation, many of which were regressions from previous versions.  At best 
they have been marked as duplicate, but no further action on them has been 
taken.  I conclude that Mail.app really isn't an ideal email client for my 
needs.  It works in most cases, but you do have to squint pretty hard to 
overlook the ugliness.

As I said, the solution that you've outlined can work, but it won't work for 
people who have multiple accounts, and is IMO too clunky to be workable in 
day-to-day use.  If you find differently, by all means, use it and more power 
to you.  DSN (delivery receipt) is off the cards, because you absolutely 
require control over the SMTP dialog; you can't just use headers.  This is a 
great shame, since DSN is more ubiquitous even than read receipts; for example, 
iCloud supports it, even though you can't access it.  If the SMTP server you 
are sending through happens to be Sendmail, and a non-default option is set, 
then Sendmail will honour the obsolete Return-Receipt-To header, but many 
sites simply don't know the meaning of that header at all, so you will get 
unpredictable behaviour.

If I wanted to solve this problem more permanently, I'd use some sort of 
hand-written SMTP proxy server that made a set of changes to all mail that I 
sent out.  Maybe one day I'll do it, but right now I'm insufficiently 
motivated; it's easier just to start up Thunderbird in Windows.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Mac mail problems and frustrations.

2014-09-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
This may appear obvious, but be aware that when you start a note to a person by 
simply selecting an email address, you are not replying, even if you copy or 
construct an appropriate subject line.  Therefore extract the address from the 
headers (select the address character and then do VO space and choose Copy 
address), reply as usual, and wipe out any recipients and paste in your copied 
address.  Your reply will then show up at the recipient as directed to them but 
still be on the same thread as it originated.

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PDF Pen Pro

2014-09-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
I am trying this seemingly cool app, it's a PDF editor for OS X hence me 
writing to this list. Question is how exactly do I use one of these PDF 
editors? I see no way of inserting text into the document. So do I use 
an app like TextEdit, copy the text then paste it into the PDF document? 
Any help greatly appreciated but no mad rush as I'm not committing to a 
purchase yet. Thought to try it out after hearing good things about it 
on this and other Mac lists for the visually impaired. Anyway cheers!

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RE: read receipt

2014-09-03 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Saba,

Everyone is entitled to his opinion and I certainly respect yours but I
couldn't disagree with you more.

I use Outlook on a daily basis with both Jaws and/or Zoomtext.

When it comes to reading mass amounts of messages, I think the Mac Mail
application is a thousand times more efficient than Outlook has ever been.  

For example, the automatic reading of each message in a thread takes a
minimum of keystrokes when compared to Outlook via Jaws.  

To be even more honest, I would not subscribe to any email lists if I were
forced to muddle through them using Outlook.  

Finally, I will never understand people's desire to continue to compare one
platform over another.  Outlook certainly has its advantages over Mail but,
rest assured that the reverse is true, also.  

My friends, there is room on this tech train journey for everyone and
everything so sample and take what you like but do not disrespect those
things that you do not like.  

Most Sincerely and your brother in the journey,

mark

-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 11:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: read receipt

At the risk of boiling this over, to be honest I don't believe Mail.app is a
very competent email client.  It's really Outlook Express for the Mac.  Once
upon a time Apple may have cared--signs of Eudora were written all over
it--but they don't now; for them, the metaphor of email is shattered by the
slightest hint of advanced functionality.  I pity them, and us.

This is as much of a source of frustration to me as anyone, because I don't
believe we have an alternative--Thunderbird doesn't work yet, for example.
At best, you can use a command-line or console client such as Heirloom mailx
or mutt/alpine.

I have already filed bugs against specific aspects of Mail.app's protocol
implementation, many of which were regressions from previous versions.  At
best they have been marked as duplicate, but no further action on them has
been taken.  I conclude that Mail.app really isn't an ideal email client for
my needs.  It works in most cases, but you do have to squint pretty hard to
overlook the ugliness.

As I said, the solution that you've outlined can work, but it won't work for
people who have multiple accounts, and is IMO too clunky to be workable in
day-to-day use.  If you find differently, by all means, use it and more
power to you.  DSN (delivery receipt) is off the cards, because you
absolutely require control over the SMTP dialog; you can't just use headers.
This is a great shame, since DSN is more ubiquitous even than read receipts;
for example, iCloud supports it, even though you can't access it.  If the
SMTP server you are sending through happens to be Sendmail, and a
non-default option is set, then Sendmail will honour the obsolete
Return-Receipt-To header, but many sites simply don't know the meaning of
that header at all, so you will get unpredictable behaviour.

If I wanted to solve this problem more permanently, I'd use some sort of
hand-written SMTP proxy server that made a set of changes to all mail that I
sent out.  Maybe one day I'll do it, but right now I'm insufficiently
motivated; it's easier just to start up Thunderbird in Windows.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Permanently erase mail (bypassing the trash)

2014-09-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Unfortunately, there's no direct way to selectively expunge mail from a mailbox 
without affecting other mail, that I can see; it's all or nothing.  However, if 
under Preferences, Accounts, your account, Mailbox Behaviours, you choose not 
to move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox, you could then hide deleted 
messages from the View menu, and get into the habit of pressing 
Cmd+Shift+Delete to expunge.

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Re: reading without pause

2014-09-03 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
hey, Anne got a point, however it don't make much of a difference.
It will still make a simulated pause with , and .'s
If you want to read fast, set up your speech speed, i know it is not
what you are asking about, but it might be the best that can be done
right this moment.
At least it is the best i can come  up with right now :)

Sandi


On 9/2/14, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Use find and replace to get rid of them.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 3 Sep 2014, at 06:21, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:

 so what would i do?
 On 02 Sep 2014, at 22:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 VoiceOver pauses at new line characters. Check your text for these. The
 Mac considers a new line to be a paragraph break, but often, documents
 created using Windows has these extra new line characters all over the
 place.

 Cheers,

 Anne


 On 2 Sep 2014, at 22:55, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 i tried reading again with read all  gesture, it read pauses every line
 and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE
 and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak
 without pauses.

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VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message that 
VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to hear 
how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
Jonathan Mosen
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Re: A Question About App Delete

2014-09-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Clean My Mac does more than delete apps it can reset them for you by 
removing everything but the app file so it behaves as new. It cleans 
other things as well.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 02/09/2014 21:42, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi, What are the differences between Clean my mac and Appdelete? I use the 
latter and think it's ok but am open to new app suggestions.
/Krister


2 sep 2014 kl. 22:23 skrev Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com:

If you want more try Clean My Mac. $34.99 or so but worth it for what it does.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 02/09/2014 20:46, jeffrey greene wrote:

Hi app delete will get rid of all parts of an app including preference panes 
etc. You can get it for $7.99 from reggieashworth.com. And, its accessible with 
VO.
Hope this helps, Jeff

On Sep 2, 2014, at 2:41 PM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote:


As a point of interest,  what is it's purpose,  we've been discussing two
ways of deleting apps lately, so would like to know what benefit  an app
would have over the system methods discussed.

Thanks, Rh.
- Original Message -
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:35 PM
Subject: A Question About App Delete


Hello Jeff and Everyone,,

A sighted friend of mine raves about how much he loves App Delete.

I take it from your post, that App Delete is accessible via VoiceOver,
right?

 From where does one get this app?  Is it free? If not, how muchg does it
cost.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: introduction and a question

Hi Mike, I ended up removing the ap with app delete. I might try
re-installing it later.
Thanks, Jeff


On 9/1/14, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

It installs in the status menu, you will need to move to the status
menu, then use the voiceover keys to find the icon, although I also
had this problem and could not find the application last time I tried it

as well.

On Sep 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, jeff `greene greenebo...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi I'm Jeff and i just joined this email list. I'm kind of a slider
going between mac and windows, although I haven't had a mac for three
years. I just bought a like-new 2012 macbook pro 15-inch, so I
thought I would subscribe to this list. Ok on to my question:
I installed SMC fan control. It was highly recommended on
applevis.com, but now that it has been installed and launched for the
first time I can't find it. On first launch system control asked if
it was ok for SMC to make system changes, and I hit the ok button. It
is supposed to live in the menu bar but its not there. If i go to the
apps folder and hit open on it nothing happens. Anybody have any
suggestions?
Thanks, Jeff

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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit 
and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider 
upgrading.


Christopher Hallsworth
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On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message that 
VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to hear 
how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time to 
test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?  Is it 
Windows or Linux or both?

Many thanks

Andrew
On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit and 
 am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message that 
 VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to 
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
 Jonathan Mosen
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I have it up and running now too. It seems identical from a screen reader 
perspective, even though visually it's supposed to be different.
Jonathan Mosen
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On 4/09/2014, at 12:04 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time to 
 test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?  Is 
 it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit and 
 am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message that 
 VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to 
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
 Jonathan Mosen
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RE: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Bill Holton
And How much is it?


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?
Is it Windows or Linux or both?

Many thanks

Andrew
On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to
hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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does any one know how i can get rid of a new voice over voice i installed on my mack boook air?

2014-09-03 Thread adrian
does any one know of a way i can get rid of a voice i uninstalled from my mack 
boook air 11 inch i went to the voice over utalatity and i could not find the 
option to get rid of one of them

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Re: does any one know how i can get rid of a new voice over voice i installed on my mack boook air?

2014-09-03 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi,
There may be those who have another suggestion, however if you go into the 
voices tab  under  accessibility, correct me if I'm wrong, you'll see a list of 
voices. If you uncheck it,   It should go away. 

Pam Francis

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does any one know of a way i can get rid of a voice i uninstalled from my mack 
boook air 11 inch i went to the voice over utalatity and i could not find the 
option to get rid of one of them

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Re: does any one know how i can get rid of a new voice over voice i installed on my mack boook air?

2014-09-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Even ifit's on your computer, you don't ever have to use it. I have several 
voices that I never use. You are only going to hear the voices you pick.

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On Sep 3, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 There may be those who have another suggestion, however if you go into the 
 voices tab  under  accessibility, correct me if I'm wrong, you'll see a list 
 of voices. If you uncheck it,   It should go away. 
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 8:41 AM, adrian adrianle...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
 does any one know of a way i can get rid of a voice i uninstalled from my 
 mack boook air 11 inch i went to the voice over utalatity and i could not 
 find the option to get rid of one of them
 
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Re: reading without pause

2014-09-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What Ann says is exactly right. If you don't have extra new line characters in 
what you are reading, the pauses between sentences should be no more than you 
would hear in normal speech and shouldn't be annoying. But no matter how fast 
you set the speed, the new line characters are going to cause an irritating 
abnormal pausing. I would suggest that you find a variety of materials to read 
and figure out whether voiceover's speech itself is bothering you or if it is 
related to the setup of what you are trying to read.

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On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:00 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:

 hey, Anne got a point, however it don't make much of a difference.
 It will still make a simulated pause with , and .'s
 If you want to read fast, set up your speech speed, i know it is not
 what you are asking about, but it might be the best that can be done
 right this moment.
 At least it is the best i can come  up with right now :)
 
 Sandi
 
 
 On 9/2/14, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 Use find and replace to get rid of them.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 06:21, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 so what would i do?
 On 02 Sep 2014, at 22:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 VoiceOver pauses at new line characters. Check your text for these. The
 Mac considers a new line to be a paragraph break, but often, documents
 created using Windows has these extra new line characters all over the
 place.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 i tried reading again with read all  gesture, it read pauses every line
 and sentences. it's so awfull to here some pauses between the word THE
 and others. it's not nice to here, so i want the voice over to speak
 without pauses.
 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs $69.
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 And How much is it?
 
 
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 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to
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how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread Scott Berry
How does one collapse a folder?


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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
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Re: how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
command up arrow,
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 How does one collapse a folder?
 
 
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Re: how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
gotta remove that footer.  My fault CB 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 command up arrow,
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time machine question

2014-09-03 Thread Jean
Hello All:
What does it mean when it says that time machine backup was delayed?
Jean

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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Good to know and thanks for sharing.

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I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to hear 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Alex Hall
From a relatively new/infrequent VMWare Fusion user: do I need 7? That is, if 
I don't virtualize Windows 8.1, can I still run Fusion 6 on Yosemite?
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 Good to know and thanks for sharing.
 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Phil Halton
What might be the advantages or reasons for wanting to upgrade to seven if five 
or six is working just fine under Mavericks. Is it necessary for Yosemite?

Sent from my IPhone


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 If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs $69.
 Jonathan Mosen
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 On 4/09/2014, at 1:37 am, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And How much is it?
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:05 AM
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 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Joshua Tubbs
I’m pretty sure that it’ll be necessary for Yosemite.

 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What might be the advantages or reasons for wanting to upgrade to seven if 
 five or six is working just fine under Mavericks. Is it necessary for 
 Yosemite?
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs $69.
 Jonathan Mosen
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 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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 On 4/09/2014, at 1:37 am, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And How much is it?
 
 
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 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:challswor...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu http://www.hadley.edu/
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Well I will be using Windows for my VMs.

Christopher Hallsworth
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www.hadley.edu

On 03/09/2014 13:04, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time to 
test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?  Is it 
Windows or Linux or both?

Many thanks

Andrew
On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit and am 
currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider upgrading.

Christopher Hallsworth
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On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message that 
VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to hear 
how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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need some help

2014-09-03 Thread becky sabo
Hi all,
I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking again. 
 I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack because my 
internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is using word.  I 
found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will not let me edit 
it.
My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the document?
if anyone could get back to me asap.
Thanks again
Becky Sabo 

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Re: time machine question

2014-09-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
If you select the Time Machine menu item, it will give you a more complete 
explanation.  Normally though it just means that your disk has been made 
inaccessible for some reason; either it's not connected, or if it's on the 
network, it has become disconnected from your network (or your computer has).  
Try forcing another backup and you should be informed.

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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Pamela Francis
Hello Becky,
My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format for 
your supervisor.
HTH

Pam Francis

On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,
I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking again. 
 I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack because my 
internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is using word.  I 
found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will not let me edit 
it.
My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the document?
if anyone could get back to me asap.
Thanks again
Becky Sabo 

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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

As Pamela mentioned, Pages will do that for you.  Pages can open Word documents 
and will also export a Pages document into Word format so that others can open 
it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will 
 not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread becky sabo
Hi Pamma,
Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
Thanks again
Becky Sabo 
On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format for 
 your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will 
 not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
You can google around but here is one review that actually talks about 
the changes:


http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/03/vmware-fusion-fusion-pro-7-ready-for-os-x-yosemite/

Sounds to me like there is some performance bump, ability to have more 
resources dedicated to the VM, ability to use the iSight camera and dual 
GPUs etc. For me the performance bump is the only thing that would be 
enticing and I wonder how noticeable it really is.


CB

On 9/3/14, 11:34 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
From a relatively new/infrequent VMWare Fusion user: do I need 7? That 
is, if I don't virtualize Windows 8.1, can I still run Fusion 6 on 
Yosemite?
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote:



Good to know and thanks for sharing.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
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6 works with yosimiete just fine


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Yosemite support.
I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be 
interested to hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.

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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

No, she will not be able to open a Pages document.  After you have your 
document the way you want it, save it in Pages then go under the File menu to 
Export, select Word from the sub-menu and follow the prompts.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:48 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
 not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
 email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format for 
 your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will 
 not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
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 if anyone could get back to me asap.
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Alex Hall
You can't just save it in Pages; as you discovered, that makes a Pages file. 
Instead, go to the file menu and choose Export, then the Word format you want. 
Send the exported Word file, not the original Pages file.
On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
 not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
 email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format for 
 your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it will 
 not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
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Re: how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread jeff `greene
Hi Use VO+\ and the folder will either collapse or expand.
Hope this helps, Jeff


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Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS

2014-09-03 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Interesting. Can you dig up the model number? If you go to Utilities and 
open System Information. Row 1 is Hardware and if you VO-right twice to 
the Hardware Overview and interact you should find the model identifier. 
Mine is MacBookPro 9,1. That little bit of text is the exact model and 
you can look up stuff about the box from there. Here's the detail on my 
model:


http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=MacBookPro9,1

CB

On 9/2/14, 5:15 PM, The Believer wrote:

No its a MBP MacBook Pro, as I stated.

From The Believer. . .
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On 9/2/2014 1:00 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:

If you have only one USB port I suspect you have an Air, not a Pro.

At 01:46 PM 9/2/2014, you wrote:

My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port.

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On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports.
On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer
non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides.

CB

On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Mark,

Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you
want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had
trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I
removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device
Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I
should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the
Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no
guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I 
was

quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS.

Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a
little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've
experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer 
too

early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle
will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver
update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will
stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before
things start working again. Also of course on something like a 
Macbook

Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work
with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather
unfortunate.

While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a 
normal

part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple
does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a 
lot of

users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand
knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the
activation as well.

Cheers,

Grant

On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:


Hello Grant,

I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for
sharing
your insights.

How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers?

I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, 
after

reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this.

Thanks again,

Mark


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Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of 
JAWS


Hello all,

I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while
running
Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do 
some

troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could
find
apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch
was to
repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got
errors
saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again 
at a

later
time.

Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people 
got

these
errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore 
the

fix
was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair
the Boot
Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS
does in
fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I
uninstalled
it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp
installer
was able to run at that point and repaired the support software.

Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific 
Video

Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly
this
should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where
this
has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly minor system tweaks,
or even
smaller things such as turning off the Wi-Fi switch on a laptop, and
occasionally you can fix the problem by putting things back to 

Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Becky 
I do this all the time. As several people have said, you want Pages. It may e 
listed under iWorks these days, since it is part of the iWorks package you can 
get for your Mac. IWorks has Pages, Numbers, and Key Note. Numbers does 
spreadsheets, and I like it better than Excel. Pages does the word processing, 
including tables, and writing flyers. Anne Robertson on this list, together 
with her husband, does a wonderful Pages course to give a good idea of what you 
can do with Pages. She gave me files that I can keep so I can look up what we 
did in case I forget. When I got my Pages and Numbers, I had to pay about $21. 

By the way, Pages on the iPhone works pretty good these days, although I 
haven't yet had the time to figure out the tables on the iPhone, particularly 
getting out of a cell. But I will work on that eventually. 



Gigi 

On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 You can't just save it in Pages; as you discovered, that makes a Pages file. 
 Instead, go to the file menu and choose Export, then the Word format you 
 want. Send the exported Word file, not the original Pages file.
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
 not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
 email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it 
 will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: Never Underestimate the Power of Ethernet

2014-09-03 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Odd, whatever works over ethernet should work over wifi, albeit more slowly.

Most Macs can do Gigabit ethernet which means they can transfer up to 
100MB/second. Even a perfect connection on the latest 802.11N wifi peaks 
at 300Megabit (.3 Gigabit). I have my laptop and an old Mac tower 
hardwired to a GB hub with TimeMachine backups going to a drive on the 
tower. The thing easily hits 40-50MB/s transfer rates and I suspect the 
limiting factor is the slow low-power drive in the laptop.


For a decade or so Macs had built-in automatic crossover on the ethernet 
port. If you're not familiar, imagine you had two phones dialed up to 
two people. If you wanted those two people to talk to each other you 
could just push the handsets together but they would be ear to ear and 
mic to mic. That wouldn't work. You would need to flip one over so the 
ear is to the mic on the opposite phone. That's what a crossover cable 
in the Ethernet world does and, since you're on a Mac, it just does that 
for you. So you can always just plug two machines Ethernet connections 
together to set up an ad-hoc private fast network for flinging files and 
the like. The Mac also is smart enough to self-assign an address when it 
can't get one from a router, which is the case when you're direct 
connecting two machines. So you basically plug the machines together 
with some Cat5 cable, turn on file sharing and go.


CB

On 8/30/14, 7:09 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Cool! I wonder if ethernet would work for the scenario where one needs 
to share files between mac and PC using a PC laptop or desktop and not 
say via Bootcamp or Fusion on the Mac. Over wifi it seems unreliable 
to say the least.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/08/2014 08:52, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As technology progresses, we sometimes forget that old and boring 
technology

that got us to where we are today.

With that in mind, I want to share with you that with regards to
manipulating data on my home network, I pretty much stick to WiFi.

However, Today I needed to copy an enormous amount of data from a NAS 
drive
to one of my computers. Slowly but surely I am removing all data from 
NAS

for reasons described in prior threads.

So, as I began the copy process, I was told that it would take about 6
hours.

Then, I remembered that along with my new Mac, I purchased a 
Thunderbolt to

Ethernet adaptor.

Using a wired connection, the same amount of data was transferred in 
less

than 35 minutes.

So, no matter how much progress we make, let's remember and revere the
old-school style that came before as, in some cases, it's still going
strong.

Happily,

Mark





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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

2014-09-03 Thread 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries
So, I sure would like to know if there would be a way to use a BRF file 
generated by this software and somehow use this to create a Braille file 
using a Tiger printer?

Thanks for any insight or suggestions.



-Original Message- 
From: Greg Kearney

Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 4:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; cb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Louis Braille translator version 3

A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released 
and can be downloaded from the following URL:


http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php

This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future 
version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.



Commonwealth Braille  Talking Book Cooperative
605 Robson Street, Suite 850
Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
CANADA
Email: i...@cbtbc.org


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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

2014-09-03 Thread Tim Emmons
Greg, can you tell me how to set up a Romeo embosser to work with Louis if we 
have the proper serial to Usb connecter, and know it communicates with the mac? 
Trying to figure a better way out than trying to get duxbury and running 
windows and all that fun. Tahnks. 
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 So, I sure would like to know if there would be a way to use a BRF file 
 generated by this software and somehow use this to create a Braille file 
 using a Tiger printer?
 Thanks for any insight or suggestions.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Greg Kearney
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 4:01 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; cb...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Louis Braille translator version 3
 
 A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released 
 and can be downloaded from the following URL:
 
 http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php
 
 This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future 
 version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.
 
 
 Commonwealth Braille  Talking Book Cooperative
 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
 Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
 CANADA
 Email: i...@cbtbc.org
 
 
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread becky sabo
Hi ,
Thank you for the suggestion for using pages.  Where do I fine these courses to 
learn more about pages?
Thanks again
Becky 
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Becky 
 I do this all the time. As several people have said, you want Pages. It may e 
 listed under iWorks these days, since it is part of the iWorks package you 
 can get for your Mac. IWorks has Pages, Numbers, and Key Note. Numbers does 
 spreadsheets, and I like it better than Excel. Pages does the word 
 processing, including tables, and writing flyers. Anne Robertson on this 
 list, together with her husband, does a wonderful Pages course to give a good 
 idea of what you can do with Pages. She gave me files that I can keep so I 
 can look up what we did in case I forget. When I got my Pages and Numbers, I 
 had to pay about $21. 
 
 By the way, Pages on the iPhone works pretty good these days, although I 
 haven't yet had the time to figure out the tables on the iPhone, particularly 
 getting out of a cell. But I will work on that eventually. 
 
 
 
 Gigi 
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can't just save it in Pages; as you discovered, that makes a Pages file. 
 Instead, go to the file menu and choose Export, then the Word format you 
 want. Send the exported Word file, not the original Pages file.
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I 
 am not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You 
 can email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my 
 mack because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone 
 else is using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some 
 reason it will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and 
 make changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread becky sabo
Hi 
When I try to save the file to a word document through exporting it will not do 
it for some reason.
Becky 
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 You can't just save it in Pages; as you discovered, that makes a Pages file. 
 Instead, go to the file menu and choose Export, then the Word format you 
 want. Send the exported Word file, not the original Pages file.
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
 not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
 email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it 
 will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread becky sabo
Hi 
I just responding to this last message .  Some reason it will not let me export 
the file for some reason.  Help please.
Becky 
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 No, she will not be able to open a Pages document.  After you have your 
 document the way you want it, save it in Pages then go under the File menu to 
 Export, select Word from the sub-menu and follow the prompts.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:48 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I am 
 not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You can 
 email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my mack 
 because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone else is 
 using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some reason it 
 will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and make 
 changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Becky, what happens when you try to export the document? Do you receive an 
error message, or are you having trouble navigating the interface? Note that 
there is no guarantee Pages will automatically save the document in the folder 
you are expecting. To be sure, you can navigate with VO+LEFT and RIGHT ARROW 
keys to explore the save as dialog box when it appears. There will be a popup 
button that displays the current folder in which Pages is about to save. If you 
are not happy with this, you can select a different folder in the usual way. 
For example, you can press VO+SPACE on the popup button and select from a set 
of common folders, or you can navigate to the list view and select any folder 
on your computer. If you can't see a list view, navigate with VO+ARROWS to the 
List View radio button and press VO+SPACE to select it. You can explore the 
list with arrows, and press COMMAND+DOWN ARROW to open a folder or COMMAND+UP 
ARROW to back out to the previous level. Navigate to the folder you want, press 
COMMAND+DOWN ARROW to open it, then navigate to the Save button and activate it.

Hope this helps,

Grant

On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:59 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi 
 I just responding to this last message .  Some reason it will not let me 
 export the file for some reason.  Help please.
 Becky 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, she will not be able to open a Pages document.  After you have your 
 document the way you want it, save it in Pages then go under the File menu 
 to Export, select Word from the sub-menu and follow the prompts.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:48 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I 
 am not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You 
 can email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my 
 mack because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone 
 else is using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some 
 reason it will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Mike Arrigo
If I read it right, the price to go from pro version 6 to pro version 7 
is $79, that seems a bit high. Think I will wait until I upgrade to the 
next mac operating system first.

Original message:
You can google around but here is one review that actually talks about 
the changes:


http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/03/vmware-fusion-fusion-pro-7-ready-for-os-x-yosemite/ 
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/03/vmware-fusion-fusion-pro-7-ready-for-os-x-yosemite/


Sounds to me like there is some performance bump, ability to have more 
resources dedicated to the VM, ability to use the iSight camera and 
dual GPUs etc. For me the performance bump is the only thing that would 
be enticing and I wonder how noticeable it really is.



CB




On 9/3/14, 11:34 AM, Alex Hall wrote:



From a relatively new/infrequent VMWare Fusion user: do I need 7? That 
is, if I don't virtualize Windows 8.1, can I still run Fusion 6 on Yosemite?


On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
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Good to know and thanks for sharing.



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On 03/09/2014 16:02, Kliphton Senior wrote:




6 works with yosimiete just fine





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Settings in Mac

2014-09-03 Thread The Believer
   Had some more training with the Mac today and found some things I 
want to look at.


   One, are all the verbosity related settings in the same place in VO 
Utilities? I ask because at least in Mail, I am getting way too much 
feedback when typing text. Every letter gets the font and color 
attributes spoken. So when I get in there to change settings I want to 
try and deal with everything at one time. Probably will want to change 
other options too and hope I can do most if not all of it at the same time.


   I found Mail was not too bad after making a couple changes there and 
think it will be fine.


   Then we went to Safari and I found it hard to figure out how to 
navigate around. Like moving from one heading to another. I thought I 
just needed to change the rotor setting to Headings but the only options 
that came up were Characters Words and Navigation. Are all the needed 
navigation controls in that area? We had to stop there but we did find 
the options are checked in VO Utilities so I will go back into Safari 
later and try again.


   Lots to learn but its getting there.

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Re: how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread Anne Robertson
Left arrow alone will normally collapse a folder.

Cheers,

Anne


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Voiceover Randomly Stops Talking

2014-09-03 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Hello,

I just got a new computer about two months ago. Lately I've been noticing that 
Voiceover will randomly stop talking, and I have to restart the computer to get 
it back on. I'll just be in the middle of something, generally editing text in 
textedit or working in Terminal. I don't think it's happened to me in Safari 
yet.

Any idea why this might be happening? It's quite annoying.

I'm using Mavericks.

Thanks,
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
This is VMWare so the high price shouldn't really be much of a surprise to 
anyone, least of all Mac users. :)

Anybody who now has it tell me what the state of serial port emulation is?  Let 
me guess: you only have the option of writing to a disk file, yes?

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Re: Settings in Mac

2014-09-03 Thread Anne Robertson
In the Verbosity category in VoiceOver Utility, there are five tabs. The Text 
tab covers most of what you're talking about. I also turn Hints off as I can 
get the hint for any item by pressing VO-Shift-n.

Remember that all the VO commands can be found by doing VO-h-h and VO-k will 
allow you to test any command before issuing it.

You can also create activities with their own specific settings. I have an 
activity for Mail which has as low verbosity as I can make it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 3 Sep 2014, at 22:35, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:

   Had some more training with the Mac today and found some things I want to 
 look at.
 
   One, are all the verbosity related settings in the same place in VO 
 Utilities? I ask because at least in Mail, I am getting way too much feedback 
 when typing text. Every letter gets the font and color attributes spoken. So 
 when I get in there to change settings I want to try and deal with everything 
 at one time. Probably will want to change other options too and hope I can do 
 most if not all of it at the same time.
 
   I found Mail was not too bad after making a couple changes there and think 
 it will be fine.
 
   Then we went to Safari and I found it hard to figure out how to navigate 
 around. Like moving from one heading to another. I thought I just needed to 
 change the rotor setting to Headings but the only options that came up were 
 Characters Words and Navigation. Are all the needed navigation controls in 
 that area? We had to stop there but we did find the options are checked in VO 
 Utilities so I will go back into Safari later and try again.
 
   Lots to learn but its getting there.
 
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Re: Settings in Mac

2014-09-03 Thread Alex Hall
For quick settings changes, you can also use vo-v. Use left/right arrows to 
move through the items, and up or down to select your preference. Enter will 
close the window. Remember that these settings are not temporary or specific to 
the current app, they persist across the entire OS. VO-v is not a local 
settings change, it is a shortcut to common, global options.

As to Safari, I wrote a guide for AppleVis about using Safari and VoiceOver. 
You might find it useful:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-safari
On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 In the Verbosity category in VoiceOver Utility, there are five tabs. The Text 
 tab covers most of what you're talking about. I also turn Hints off as I can 
 get the hint for any item by pressing VO-Shift-n.
 
 Remember that all the VO commands can be found by doing VO-h-h and VO-k will 
 allow you to test any command before issuing it.
 
 You can also create activities with their own specific settings. I have an 
 activity for Mail which has as low verbosity as I can make it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 22:35, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
  Had some more training with the Mac today and found some things I want to 
 look at.
 
  One, are all the verbosity related settings in the same place in VO 
 Utilities? I ask because at least in Mail, I am getting way too much 
 feedback when typing text. Every letter gets the font and color attributes 
 spoken. So when I get in there to change settings I want to try and deal 
 with everything at one time. Probably will want to change other options too 
 and hope I can do most if not all of it at the same time.
 
  I found Mail was not too bad after making a couple changes there and think 
 it will be fine.
 
  Then we went to Safari and I found it hard to figure out how to navigate 
 around. Like moving from one heading to another. I thought I just needed to 
 change the rotor setting to Headings but the only options that came up were 
 Characters Words and Navigation. Are all the needed navigation controls in 
 that area? We had to stop there but we did find the options are checked in 
 VO Utilities so I will go back into Safari later and try again.
 
  Lots to learn but its getting there.
 
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strange situation after i cloned my 1tb harddrive please help kind regards trey.

2014-09-03 Thread trahern culver
hey all i managed to clone my 1tb hard drive to a new 2tb hard drive, i used 
carbon copy cloner. 

during the cloning  process i got an error message saying that the first hard 
drive had a physical problem no data would be corrupted but that things may 
take longer. 

I stopped the cloning process and found that a folder had not copied so i redid 
the process with the folders that were missing. 

The total size of all the data on the drive was about 800 gb but when i checked 
the free space after cloning on the second hard drive theres only around 730gb 
left out of 2tb is there a problem? and how can i fix it? 

your help with this problem would be most welcome kind regards trey.

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starting VO at log in screen

2014-09-03 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi all,

I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question but I can't seem to figure out how 
to get VO to start automatically at my log in screen. Currently I'm waiting 
until I'm sure the mac is at the log in screen and then start VO with command 
f5. I'm then able to navigate to my password field and log in. VO then does 
start automatically once I'm logged in. I've checked my start at boot-up 
setting but can't seem to find VO to get it checked. If anyone can direct me to 
where I can do this I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Gabe


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Re: starting VO at log in screen

2014-09-03 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Go to System Preferences and then Users  Groups. At the very bottom of 
that you'll find the click the lock to make changes button which will 
ask for your username and password. Once authenticated you'll be able to 
make changes to Login Options. In the Login Options you should find a 
checkbox that says Use Voiceover in the login window. Check that box and 
you should be all set.


CB

On 9/3/14, 5:17 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi all,

I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question but I can't seem to figure out how 
to get VO to start automatically at my log in screen. Currently I'm waiting 
until I'm sure the mac is at the log in screen and then start VO with command 
f5. I'm then able to navigate to my password field and log in. VO then does 
start automatically once I'm logged in. I've checked my start at boot-up 
setting but can't seem to find VO to get it checked. If anyone can direct me to 
where I can do this I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Gabe




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Re: how to collapse a folder

2014-09-03 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
navigate off then left arrow 
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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

2014-09-03 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Greg.

Will louis for mac come to support more languages.

I am danish and I know, that danish braille 8 dots contracted and uncontracted 
and 6 dots contracted and uncontracted is fully supported in liblouis. As I 
understand it, there will soon be a version out, that fixes the last problems 
with danish braille.

Best regards Annie.
Den 02/09/2014 kl. 23.01 skrev Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com:

 A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released 
 and can be downloaded from the following URL:
 
 http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php
 
 This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future 
 version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.
 
 
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Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS

2014-09-03 Thread The Believer

   Goodness, so much information there. :) Came up with mdoel 9.2.

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On 9/3/2014 10:38 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Interesting. Can you dig up the model number? If you go to Utilities and
open System Information. Row 1 is Hardware and if you VO-right twice to
the Hardware Overview and interact you should find the model identifier.
Mine is MacBookPro 9,1. That little bit of text is the exact model and
you can look up stuff about the box from there. Here's the detail on my
model:

http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=MacBookPro9,1

CB

On 9/2/14, 5:15 PM, The Believer wrote:

No its a MBP MacBook Pro, as I stated.

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On 9/2/2014 1:00 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:

If you have only one USB port I suspect you have an Air, not a Pro.

At 01:46 PM 9/2/2014, you wrote:

My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port.

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On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports.
On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer
non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides.

CB

On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Mark,

Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you
want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had
trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I
removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device
Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I
should have uninstalled Freedom Scientific Video Intercept from the
Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no
guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I
was
quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS.

Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a
little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've
experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer
too
early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the Dongle
will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a driver
update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle will
stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do before
things start working again. Also of course on something like a
Macbook
Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port to work
with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's rather
unfortunate.

While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a
normal
part of using the computer that most people will have to do, Apple
does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a
lot of
users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first hand
knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the
activation as well.

Cheers,

Grant

On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:


Hello Grant,

I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for
sharing
your insights.

How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers?

I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but,
after
reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this.

Thanks again,

Mark


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Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of
JAWS

Hello all,

I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro while
running
Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided to do
some
troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting suggestion I could
find
apart from erasing my Windows partition and starting from scratch
was to
repair the Boot Camp support software. I tried to do this but got
errors
saying that the installer could not complete and to try it again
at a
later
time.

Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people
got
these
errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and therefore
the
fix
was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video devices, repair
the Boot
Camp installation, then reinstall them. As you probably know, JAWS
does in
fact install a video driver to assist with screen reading, so I
uninstalled
it temporarily and sure enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp
installer
was able to run at that point and repaired the support software.

Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific
Video
Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. Clearly
this
should not have happened, but I've encountered many situations where
this
has happened to JAWS over the 

Re: Settings in Mac

2014-09-03 Thread The Believer

Anne and Alex,
   Very good ideas that I will sure put to use, especially turning off 
hints for there are times... LOL And the shortcut to verbosity will be 
perfect.


   Activitiies I will explore down the road as I learn the basic stuff 
first. Its important to learn the ropes and then start tying the more 
advanced knots.


From The Believer. . .
  What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/3/2014 2:07 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

For quick settings changes, you can also use vo-v. Use left/right arrows to 
move through the items, and up or down to select your preference. Enter will 
close the window. Remember that these settings are not temporary or specific to 
the current app, they persist across the entire OS. VO-v is not a local 
settings change, it is a shortcut to common, global options.

As to Safari, I wrote a guide for AppleVis about using Safari and VoiceOver. 
You might find it useful:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-safari
On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:


In the Verbosity category in VoiceOver Utility, there are five tabs. The Text 
tab covers most of what you're talking about. I also turn Hints off as I can 
get the hint for any item by pressing VO-Shift-n.

Remember that all the VO commands can be found by doing VO-h-h and VO-k will 
allow you to test any command before issuing it.

You can also create activities with their own specific settings. I have an 
activity for Mail which has as low verbosity as I can make it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 3 Sep 2014, at 22:35, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:


  Had some more training with the Mac today and found some things I want to 
look at.

  One, are all the verbosity related settings in the same place in VO 
Utilities? I ask because at least in Mail, I am getting way too much feedback 
when typing text. Every letter gets the font and color attributes spoken. So 
when I get in there to change settings I want to try and deal with everything 
at one time. Probably will want to change other options too and hope I can do 
most if not all of it at the same time.

  I found Mail was not too bad after making a couple changes there and think it 
will be fine.

  Then we went to Safari and I found it hard to figure out how to navigate 
around. Like moving from one heading to another. I thought I just needed to 
change the rotor setting to Headings but the only options that came up were 
Characters Words and Navigation. Are all the needed navigation controls in that 
area? We had to stop there but we did find the options are checked in VO 
Utilities so I will go back into Safari later and try again.

  Lots to learn but its getting there.

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Re: need some help

2014-09-03 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Becky 
First, after you have chosen Export, you have to press the right arrow key. 
Then comes up another menu, and the first choice is pdf. Go down arrow once and 
it should say Word, and I forgot which type of Word file is the first one. Go 
through with the up and down arrows until you have the version of Word you 
want. That first one is the newest version of Word, and if that is the one you 
want, press Enter. Then you get another screen, and this is probably the one 
you didn't do right. You need to tab through this to find where the computer is 
going to put your file. When you hear something that sounds like a choice from 
Finder, such as the Desktop, or Documents, that lets you know where your file 
is going unless you change it. If it says something you want to change, press 
VO space and start going down arrow to hear the choices. I have found that 
sometimes the choice I really want is not there, so I choose one where I can 
find the file. Keep tabbing until you hear save. Press return. It's not hard, 
but it might be confusing because at one point VoiceOver says nothing when it 
brings up that first screen. 

Gigi 

On Sep 3, 2014, at 1:57 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi 
 When I try to save the file to a word document through exporting it will not 
 do it for some reason.
 Becky 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can't just save it in Pages; as you discovered, that makes a Pages file. 
 Instead, go to the file menu and choose Export, then the Word format you 
 want. Send the exported Word file, not the original Pages file.
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pamma,
 Some reason she can not open a page document .  I do not no for sure if I 
 am not saving it correctly.  I decently need some help with this asap.  You 
 can email me off list at beckyas...@gmail.com
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Becky,
 My daughter had a similar issue while in college.
 If I'm not mistaken, pages has a means to export a file into Word format 
 for your supervisor.
 HTH
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I posted yesterday here and did not get any response back so I am asking 
 again.  I am doing a internship and have to write some documents on my 
 mack because my internship did not set up a computer for me and everyone 
 else is using word.  I found a app yesterday call quick word but some 
 reason it will not let me edit it.
 My question is there any appp for word on the mack that I can edit and 
 make changes and send it to my supervisor and other people to look at the 
 document?
 if anyone could get back to me asap.
 Thanks again
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: starting VO at log in screen

2014-09-03 Thread Kevin Barry

An inexcusable defect as far as I am concerned.
At 05:35 PM 9/3/2014, you wrote:
Go to System Preferences and then Users  
Groups. At the very bottom of that you'll find 
the click the lock to make changes button 
which will ask for your username and password. 
Once authenticated you'll be able to make 
changes to Login Options. In the Login Options 
you should find a checkbox that says Use 
Voiceover in the login window. Check that box and you should be all set.


CB

On 9/3/14, 5:17 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi all,

I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question but 
I can't seem to figure out how to get VO to 
start automatically at my log in screen. 
Currently I'm waiting until I'm sure the mac is 
at the log in screen and then start VO with 
command f5. I'm then able to navigate to my 
password field and log in. VO then does start 
automatically once I'm logged in. I've checked 
my start at boot-up setting but can't seem to 
find VO to get it checked. If anyone can direct 
me to where I can do this I would really appreciate it.


Thanks,

Gabe



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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
yes you can.

Kliphton
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 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 From a relatively new/infrequent VMWare Fusion user: do I need 7? That is, if 
 I don't virtualize Windows 8.1, can I still run Fusion 6 on Yosemite?
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Good to know and thanks for sharing.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 16:02, Kliphton Senior wrote:
 6 works with yosimiete just fine
 
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 Our door is always open!
 
 
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 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message 
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to 
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
It is not necessary for yosemite I am using fusion 6 with no issues 

Kliphton
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 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Joshua Tubbs ori...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I’m pretty sure that it’ll be necessary for Yosemite.
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What might be the advantages or reasons for wanting to upgrade to seven if 
 five or six is working just fine under Mavericks. Is it necessary for 
 Yosemite?
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs 
 $69.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 4/09/2014, at 1:37 am, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And How much is it?
 
 
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 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
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 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested to
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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

2014-09-03 Thread Devin Prater

Thank you so much for this update! Does this include the latest liblouis?

On 9/2/2014 5:01 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:

A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released and 
can be downloaded from the following URL:

http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php

This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future version. 
PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.


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Re: Braille display and VO on the Mac

2014-09-03 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Well, i could  say a lot about braille on the mac. Most of it is really 
negative.
Tbut i can make a summary.
Don't expect it to be like using jaws with windows or any linux based 
screenreader.
They have a lot to improve which i've tried to tell them.
Hopfully they will listen.
/A
1 sep 2014 kl. 20:02 skrev Gerard Doody jerrydood...@gmail.com:

 Hi There, I think it depends on which display you are using.  I have found 
 that for use on a computer, the shorter ones, with 12, 18, even 32 characters 
 might not suite. However, if you have a 40 cell it works pretty well.  Oh, 
 also it depends on you skills using both the mac and braille.  
 I am a life-long braille user and I have connected a focus 40 and a 
 braillepen12 to my macbookpro.  hth
 Jerry Doody
 jerrydood...@gmail.com 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:31 am, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Here's a question to you who uses braille displays on a dayly base. Would you 
 say it's easiely possible to use braille as the main output device? Or would 
 you say braille on the Mac is too buggy and doesn't work to well?
 
 For example: I saw braille used in Wikipedia and it was a catastrophy. But 
 maybe you know a way of using it efficiantly. I'd be glad for all of your 
 hints.
 
 Thanks and
 all the best
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Re: Louis Braille translator version 3

2014-09-03 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
What does this app?
Can you emboss with it or just translate into braille?
/A
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 Thank you so much for this update! Does this include the latest liblouis?
 
 On 9/2/2014 5:01 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
 A new version of the Louis Braille translator for MacOS X has been released 
 and can be downloaded from the following URL:
 
 http://www.cbtbc.org/louis/index.php
 
 This version now works with the latest MacOS and should work in future 
 version. PLease note the instructions found on the download page for use.
 
 
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Re: starting VO at log in screen

2014-09-03 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Kevin, to which defect are you referring? VO can indeed be configured to 
speak at the login screen, as per the message posted by Chris. Even if you have 
FileVault enabled, a full disk encryption system, there is audible feedback as 
you are unlocking your drive. I don’t think there’s a defect here, in fact I 
think it’s all quite well designed to be quite honest. When Windows 8.1 was my 
primary operating system, I had no audible feedback at all when BitLocker 
required authentication.

Grant

On Sep 3, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote:

 An inexcusable defect as far as I am concerned.
 At 05:35 PM 9/3/2014, you wrote:
 Go to System Preferences and then Users  Groups. At the very bottom of that 
 you'll find the click the lock to make changes button which will ask for 
 your username and password. Once authenticated you'll be able to make 
 changes to Login Options. In the Login Options you should find a checkbox 
 that says Use Voiceover in the login window. Check that box and you should 
 be all set.
 
 CB
 
 On 9/3/14, 5:17 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question but I can't seem to figure out 
 how to get VO to start automatically at my log in screen. Currently I'm 
 waiting until I'm sure the mac is at the log in screen and then start VO 
 with command f5. I'm then able to navigate to my password field and log in. 
 VO then does start automatically once I'm logged in. I've checked my start 
 at boot-up setting but can't seem to find VO to get it checked. If anyone 
 can direct me to where I can do this I would really appreciate it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
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Re: starting VO at log in screen

2014-09-03 Thread Gabe Griffith
Thanks Chris

I fumbled around a bit before finding the right list item to select and then 
the check box but it is now set.

Gabe


On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:35 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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 Go to System Preferences and then Users  Groups. At the very bottom of that 
 you'll find the click the lock to make changes button which will ask for 
 your username and password. Once authenticated you'll be able to make changes 
 to Login Options. In the Login Options you should find a checkbox that says 
 Use Voiceover in the login window. Check that box and you should be all set.
 
 CB
 
 On 9/3/14, 5:17 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm almost embarrassed to ask this question but I can't seem to figure out 
 how to get VO to start automatically at my log in screen. Currently I'm 
 waiting until I'm sure the mac is at the log in screen and then start VO 
 with command f5. I'm then able to navigate to my password field and log in. 
 VO then does start automatically once I'm logged in. I've checked my start 
 at boot-up setting but can't seem to find VO to get it checked. If anyone 
 can direct me to where I can do this I would really appreciate it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 
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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Jonathan Mosen
That's interesting, because if you Google, everything you'll find indicates 
Fusion 6 does not support Yosemite, and bad things have happened to many people 
who've tried.
Jonathan Mosen
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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 4/09/2014, at 12:32 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It is not necessary for yosemite I am using fusion 6 with no issues 
 
 Kliphton
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Joshua Tubbs ori...@icloud.com 
 mailto:ori...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I’m pretty sure that it’ll be necessary for Yosemite.
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com 
 mailto:philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What might be the advantages or reasons for wanting to upgrade to seven if 
 five or six is working just fine under Mavericks. Is it necessary for 
 Yosemite?
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs 
 $69.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 4/09/2014, at 1:37 am, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And How much is it?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:05 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware 
 fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 mailto:challswor...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu http://www.hadley.edu/
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested 
 to
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
 Jonathan Mosen
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fs:unopened ram for 8 and 12 core mac pros...

2014-09-03 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. I bought this but never ended up installing it. It's still new in
it's packaging. Please write off list if interested.

Lifetime Memory PC3 10600 ECC Dimms (8GB unregistered)

thanks,

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Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out

2014-09-03 Thread Kliphton Senior
That was true up through beta 2, but beta 3 and above, I have no issues.  
Running it every day with no crashes or problems at all.

Kliphton
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 That's interesting, because if you Google, everything you'll find indicates 
 Fusion 6 does not support Yosemite, and bad things have happened to many 
 people who've tried.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 4/09/2014, at 12:32 pm, Kliphton Senior m.kliph...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It is not necessary for yosemite I am using fusion 6 with no issues 
 
 Kliphton
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Joshua Tubbs ori...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I’m pretty sure that it’ll be necessary for Yosemite.
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What might be the advantages or reasons for wanting to upgrade to seven if 
 five or six is working just fine under Mavericks. Is it necessary for 
 Yosemite?
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 If you have 5.x or 6.x, there's a $49 upgrade offer. Buying it new costs 
 $69.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 4/09/2014, at 1:37 am, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And How much is it?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:05 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion 7 is Out
 
 Can you tell us Christopher of your impressions once you have had the 
 time
 to test drive it?  What operating systems are you running in vmware 
 fusion?
 Is it Windows or Linux or both?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 On 3 Sep 2014, at 11:00, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Yes, got it this morning. Interface doesn't seem to have changed one bit
 and am currently using the 30 days evaluation mode before I consider
 upgrading.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/09/2014 10:36, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi everyone. I started my VM this evening to be greeted with a message
 that VMWare Fusion 7 is now available, complete with Yosemite support.
 I'm not sure when I'll get to installing this, but would be interested 
 to
 hear how people get on if they purchase the upgrade.
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Re: fs:unopened ram for 8 and 12 core mac pros...

2014-09-03 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

to bad it won't work for mac mini

On 9/3/2014 8:47 PM, Cameron Strife wrote:

Hi. I bought this but never ended up installing it. It's still new in
it's packaging. Please write off list if interested.

Lifetime Memory PC3 10600 ECC Dimms (8GB unregistered)

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