Re: Quitting Pages

2015-05-05 Thread Robert Cole
Press command delete while in the save as window.


Sent from my iPhone

 On May 4, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Angus MacKinnon floda...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 In OS 10.9.5’s Pages, I do a cmd Q to Quit. I receive a message to save my 
 work or do not save my work. Only the Save As window is displayed and all I 
 can do is to close the Save As window and then a cmd + option + escape to do 
 a Force Quit. How does a person Quit without saving? Thank you.
 
 Angus MacKinnon
 
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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Hi Karen,
Sorry about that, you had said IOS so kind of made me chuckle. I believe the 
oldest version it can run on is Panther, OS 10.3.

God bless.
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On May 5, 2015, at 20:48, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:

Hi Matthew,
I do not have an ios device, but a mac. I know what the program is intended to 
do, but how far back will the program run?
As I asked, the earliest mac os edition on which it can work?

Thanks,
Karen


On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:

 Hi Karen,
 This is only for the Mac.
 This is an application for burning cd's, so unsure how a CD drive would be 
 able to work on an IOS device.
 Who knows, maybe someday.
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 5, 2015, at 20:22, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:
 
 Matthew,
 Sorry if you have answered this already, but does this program work for the 
 mac as well as ios?
 if yes, what is the earliest os  version the program supports?
 Thanks,
 Karen
 
 On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:
 
 Sure thing. Here you go.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
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 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Matthew,
 Can you send me a link for burn?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gabe,
 I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very 
 accessible, and can burn both audio and data cd's.
 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist 
 but I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does 
 anyone have some advice on an easy way to do so?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn 
 Audio CDs just fine.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive 
 on it is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to 
 burn music to a CD or is there any program that can be installed either 
 for free or otherwise to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to 
 burn a CD as a gift.
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 Gabe
 
 
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Connect your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Mac using Continuity

2015-05-05 Thread Apple - Support - Most Recent
Connect your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Mac using Continuity 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681
Continuity lets you seamlessly move between your iPhone, iPad, and Mac, or use 
them together.
URL: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681 
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681

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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Matthew,
I do not have an ios device, but a mac. I know what the program is 
intended to do, but 
how far back will the program run?

As I asked, the earliest mac os edition on which it can work?

Thanks,
Karen


On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Hi Karen,
This is only for the Mac.
This is an application for burning cd's, so unsure how a CD drive would be able 
to work on an IOS device.
Who knows, maybe someday.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 5, 2015, at 20:22, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:

Matthew,
Sorry if you have answered this already, but does this program work for the mac 
as well as ios?
if yes, what is the earliest os  version the program supports?
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Sure thing. Here you go.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Matthew,
Can you send me a link for burn?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net


On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:

Hello Gabe,
I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very accessible, 
and can burn both audio and data cd's.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist but 
I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does anyone 
have some advice on an easy way to do so?

Thanks,

Gabe


On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:


Hi,

Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn Audio 
CDs just fine.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive on it 
is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to burn music to 
a CD or is there any program that can be installed either for free or otherwise 
to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to burn a CD as a gift.

Thanks for any help.

Gabe


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cvs shows refuse to play on my mac anymore.

2015-05-05 Thread Jessica Moss
For some reason, cbs shows have decided not to play on my mac anymore, even 
after updating my flash player, and enabling the html5 extention, and have no 
idea what brought this on.
  I can get youtube videos to play just fine, but no dice with cbs, and it's 
driving me up the wall.  Has anybody ever had any issues with this?

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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Jamie Pauls
In the old Blind Cool Tech podcasts for the Mac done by Mike Arrigo, he didn’t 
use sounds either.

Take care and have a great day.
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 On May 5, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well seeing as how I don't use the sounds at all, I don't notice any odd 
 behavior. Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that doesn't use the 
 sounds on both my Mac and my iPhone?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On May 5, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 Nope. No response at all yet.
 
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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Mary Otten
I don't you sounds on my Mac at all. But I do use them on the phone. Go figure.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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 Well seeing as how I don't use the sounds at all, I don't notice any odd 
 behavior. Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that doesn't use the 
 sounds on both my Mac and my iPhone?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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 Nope. No response at all yet.
 
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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Nope. No response at all yet.

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Re: Hand Off Without A Mac, Can This Be Done?

2015-05-05 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, for what it’s worth, I just checked my copy of iOS 8 Without the Eye, and 
it is very clear that handoff can benefit multiple iOS devices.  So Heather 
must have misremembered somehow.  In fact, I’m fairly sure I had that 
impression once as well; after all multiple iOS devices is presumably less 
obviously useful than iPhone to Mac.  These things happen.

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Re: Hand Off Without A Mac, Can This Be Done?

2015-05-05 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hello Shawn, as the author of that book, I can assure you that it makes it 
clear that hand-off works not just between compatible Macs and iDevices, but 
between compatible iDevices too.
Here's the opening paragraph of the Continuity chapter, where hand-off is 
discussed.
Most of us now have more than one device. It’s common these days to own a 
smartphone, a tablet, and a computer. Who knows, maybe next year, some of us 
will own an Apple Watch as well. If you have more than one Apple thing in your 
life, you’re going to love a series of features apple has labelled “Continuity”.

The philosophy behind Continuity is that you should be able to switch 
seamlessly from one device to another in the middle of a task, and just keep 
going with that task.

It then goes on to talk about Hand-off and all the apps it can work with.
Hope that helps.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 6/05/2015, at 12:28 pm, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey all. For those of you that aren't on the Peel the iPhone list, apparently 
 Heather read that she couldn't use hand off without a Mac in a book called 
 iOS 8 Without the Eye. Hopefully I'm saying that right. Somebody on the 
 list pointed her to a link using hand off without a Mac though and that was 
 the last I heard of that.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On May 5, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 One thing though, if the tool discovers that your mac doesn’t have a 
 Bluetooth 4.0 or whatever it is that works card or chip or whatever it will 
 warn you to that fact and quit, so i personally didn’t have any use for the 
 tool.
 /Krister
 
 4 maj 2015 kl. 21:49 skrev Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se:
 
 Hi!
 You can use hand off with old macs if you have the continuity activation 
 tool.
 I don’t have the link now but i can provide it if there’s any intrest.
 /A
 4 maj 2015 kl. 11:45 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com:
 
 Yes, it’s the case.  My Mac is too old for handoff, but since getting an 
 Apple Watch, it’s been worthwhile turning it back on on my phone, and also 
 my iPod Touch.  All three work together, sans Mac.
 
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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Sure thing. Here you go. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Matthew,
Can you send me a link for burn?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

 On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gabe,
 I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very 
 accessible, and can burn both audio and data cd's.
 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist 
 but I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does 
 anyone have some advice on an easy way to do so?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn Audio 
 CDs just fine.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive on 
 it is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to burn 
 music to a CD or is there any program that can be installed either for free 
 or otherwise to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to burn a CD as a 
 gift.
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 Gabe
 
 
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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Karen Lewellen

Matthew,
Sorry if you have answered this already, but does this program work for the 
mac as well as ios?

if yes, what is the earliest os  version the program supports?
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Sure thing. Here you go.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Matthew,
Can you send me a link for burn?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net


On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:

Hello Gabe,
I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very accessible, 
and can burn both audio and data cd's.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist but 
I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does anyone 
have some advice on an easy way to do so?

Thanks,

Gabe


On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:


Hi,

Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn Audio 
CDs just fine.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive on it 
is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to burn music to 
a CD or is there any program that can be installed either for free or otherwise 
to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to burn a CD as a gift.

Thanks for any help.

Gabe


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Re: Choppy alex.

2015-05-05 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Shaf. If you go to assistiveware.com http://assistiveware.com/ and 
download version 4.1 or up of Infovox Ivox, In that app you'll see an option to 
download Sharon. You can try her out for 30 days and then after the 30 days, 
you can buy voice credits which will activate the voice. HTH.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On May 4, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where are you finding Sharon? Am I missing something or is it an extra 
 purchase from the store?
 
 On 5/4/2015 10:26 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
 Oh yeah! Sharon's the best voice out of the Acapela voices. I really hope 
 they continue making voices that sound as awesome as her, maybe even better.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Or use acapella Sharron.
 I must say that Sharron is a big! step forwards for good and fast voices.
 /A
 4 maj 2015 kl. 14:26 skrev Debbie April Yuille 
 debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au:
 
 Yeah, that makes sense. I have 8 gigs of ram and I have no problems with 
 Alex. I guess a clean-up is the way to go.
 
 Debbie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
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 Subject: Re: Choppy alex.
 
 Hi!
 I have 8 gb of ram so i don’t think so.
 Maybe time for a cleanup.
 /A
 4 maj 2015 kl. 06:07 skrev Debbie April Yuille 
 debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au:
 
 It could be an issue with the amount of RAM you have. How much RAM do you 
 have?
 
 Debbie
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Monday, 4 May 2015 4:04 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Choppy alex.
 
 Hi!
 I don’t know what the problem may be but i have changed to alex because i 
 can’t no longer stand the nuance voices.
 I first couldn’t really stand Alex but now i have begun to like him a lot.
 However when scrolling in the list of mail he’s getting choppy sometimes.
 Changing to my swedish ivox voice and then back seem to resolve the 
 problem for a while.
 Any other having this problem.
 This is on a mac mini mid 2011 with Yosemite latest version.
 So it might be some lack of speed.
 But the ivox voice Elin works as a charm so i would be surprised if Alex 
 would take more power from the unit than the Ivox voices.
 /A
 
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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well seeing as how I don't use the sounds at all, I don't notice any odd 
behavior. Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that doesn't use the sounds 
on both my Mac and my iPhone?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On May 5, 2015, at 5:54 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 Nope. No response at all yet.
 
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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Karen Lewellen

Most cool.  will work for me in 10.5 then.
Thanks,
Karen


On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Hi Karen,
Sorry about that, you had said IOS so kind of made me chuckle. I believe the 
oldest version it can run on is Panther, OS 10.3.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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On May 5, 2015, at 20:48, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:

Hi Matthew,
I do not have an ios device, but a mac. I know what the program is intended to 
do, but how far back will the program run?
As I asked, the earliest mac os edition on which it can work?

Thanks,
Karen


On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Hi Karen,
This is only for the Mac.
This is an application for burning cd's, so unsure how a CD drive would be able 
to work on an IOS device.
Who knows, maybe someday.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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On May 5, 2015, at 20:22, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:

Matthew,
Sorry if you have answered this already, but does this program work for the mac 
as well as ios?
if yes, what is the earliest os  version the program supports?
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:


Sure thing. Here you go.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Matthew,
Can you send me a link for burn?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net


On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:

Hello Gabe,
I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very accessible, 
and can burn both audio and data cd's.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist but 
I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does anyone 
have some advice on an easy way to do so?

Thanks,

Gabe


On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:


Hi,

Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn Audio 
CDs just fine.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive on it 
is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to burn music to 
a CD or is there any program that can be installed either for free or otherwise 
to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to burn a CD as a gift.

Thanks for any help.

Gabe


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Re: burning a CD

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Hi Karen,
This is only for the Mac.
This is an application for burning cd's, so unsure how a CD drive would be able 
to work on an IOS device.
Who knows, maybe someday.
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On May 5, 2015, at 20:22, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote:

Matthew,
Sorry if you have answered this already, but does this program work for the mac 
as well as ios?
if yes, what is the earliest os  version the program supports?
Thanks,
Karen

On Tue, 5 May 2015, Matthew Dierckens wrote:

 Sure thing. Here you go.
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn-osx/files/Burn/2.5.1/burn251.zip/download
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 19:57, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Matthew,
 Can you send me a link for burn?
 
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
 
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens matt.dierck...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hello Gabe,
 I've used the app called Burn. This app is rather easy to use, very 
 accessible, and can burn both audio and data cd's.
 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
 U.S. number: 573-401-1018
 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
 
 On May 4, 2015, at 00:12, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. I found something online about doing it through creating a playlist 
 but I've never been able to successfully create a playlist in iTunes. Does 
 anyone have some advice on an easy way to do so?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Yes, it is an RW drive, both for CD and DVD burning.  iTunes will burn 
 Audio CDs just fine.
 
 Later...
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 3, 2015, at 16:18, Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a mac book pro from around 2012. Does anyone know if the CD drive on 
 it is an RW drive and if so is there built in software on the mac to burn 
 music to a CD or is there any program that can be installed either for free 
 or otherwise to burn a CD? I have some music and am trying to burn a CD as 
 a gift.
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 Gabe
 
 
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getting .m4v files into the cloud

2015-05-05 Thread Juliette Swiler
I have some TV shows that were converted to iTunes format, but I am trying to 
figure out how I can get them into the cloud, so they aren’t taking up so much 
hard drive space on my Mac. Is there a preference I need to change so the 
download isn’t just local? So that way it will upload them to the cloud? 
Thanks. 

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Re: Hand Off Without A Mac, Can This Be Done?

2015-05-05 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey all. For those of you that aren't on the Peel the iPhone list, apparently 
Heather read that she couldn't use hand off without a Mac in a book called iOS 
8 Without the Eye. Hopefully I'm saying that right. Somebody on the list 
pointed her to a link using hand off without a Mac though and that was the last 
I heard of that.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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 One thing though, if the tool discovers that your mac doesn’t have a 
 Bluetooth 4.0 or whatever it is that works card or chip or whatever it will 
 warn you to that fact and quit, so i personally didn’t have any use for the 
 tool.
 /Krister
 
 4 maj 2015 kl. 21:49 skrev Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se:
 
 Hi!
 You can use hand off with old macs if you have the continuity activation 
 tool.
 I don’t have the link now but i can provide it if there’s any intrest.
 /A
 4 maj 2015 kl. 11:45 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com:
 
 Yes, it’s the case.  My Mac is too old for handoff, but since getting an 
 Apple Watch, it’s been worthwhile turning it back on on my phone, and also 
 my iPod Touch.  All three work together, sans Mac.
 
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Re: getting .m4v files into the cloud

2015-05-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

No, sorry, no preference changes will be able to accomplish that.  At the 
moment, the only movie and TV show media that iTunes allows in their Cloud is 
media purchased from the iTunes Store.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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I have some TV shows that were converted to iTunes format, but I am trying to 
figure out how I can get them into the cloud, so they aren’t taking up so much 
hard drive space on my Mac. Is there a preference I need to change so the 
download isn’t just local? So that way it will upload them to the cloud? 
Thanks. 

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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Barry Hadder
I believe That is not a bug but by design and I only barely notice this when 
the wrap sounds play.  Not during the selections sounds
The sound effects are there as a means of providing other types of information 
such as spacial.  If they fired at the same time as speech, they would be 
squashed.  Also, the effects happen quickly enough that any delay in speech is 
hardly noticeable.  What specific situation are you finding problems with?  You 
should always include that in any bug report.

On May 5, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:

I urge you all to also report this bug to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com so that they may take it seriously and squash 
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Date:   Tue, 05 May 2015 12:11:49 +0100
From:   Shaf s...@shafpatel.com mailto:s...@shafpatel.com
To: accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com

I've found a bug with VoiceOver on Mac running latest Yosemite:
Whenever you navigate through items with navigation sounds enabled, 
VoiceOver speech will always wait for the sound to finish and then speak 
the item focused. This increases the delay a lot. If turning sounds off, 
VoiceOver is a lot more responsive as it does not need to render sounds 
before speech.
Can we please have an option to play a sound an speak items 
simultaneously rather than having to wait for a navigation sound to play 
to here what's in focus? This would be much appreciated.


Warm Regards
-Shaf



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How Do You Format A USB Drive

2015-05-05 Thread Bill Gallik
I have 64 GB USB drive that I would like to format with my Mac mini but seem to 
be having some trouble figuring how to do this.  Can anybody help?
* * * * * * * * *
Bill Gallik
wfgal...@icloud.com


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Performance difference between iPhone 5 and iPhone six

2015-05-05 Thread Phil Halton
How much of the performance boost when I get by upgrading from an iPhone 5 to 
an iPhone 6? Is there a big processor improvement with the six? I notice a lot 
of lag at times with the iPhone 5 and I am wondering if it would be better on 
an iPhone 6. Of course, then there may be another piece of hardware in late 
October of this year, so I'm not sure it's worth upgrading just yet. I just 
want off contract and have a new OtterBox iPhone 5 and I'm probably going to 
hold off until the October surprise to see if there's a new piece of hardware 
worth buying them.

Sent from my IPhone

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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You’re not the only one who thinks this a bug.  See my report here:
http://openradar.appspot.com/radar?id=5865181770940416

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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Shaf
Have you had a response from Apple besides the generic response? This 
post is better than what I submitted to them. Nice job.


On 5/5/2015 10:57 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:

You’re not the only one who thinks this a bug.  See my report here:
http://openradar.appspot.com/radar?id=5865181770940416



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Re: How Do You Format A USB Drive

2015-05-05 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
You'll want to use Disk Utility which is found in the Utilities folder. 
You can get there quickly when in the Finder by doing command-option-U. 
Basically you'll have to navigate to your USB drive then navigate to the 
Erase tab where you'll find options for what format to use and the name 
to call it. On thing you'll need to decide is whether you want this to 
work only on Macs or be usable on Windows boxes as well. If it's just 
Mac then you can use the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format. If you want 
to use it on Windows you'll want to select ExFAT. Post back if you get 
stuck.


CB

On 5/5/15 11:45 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

I have 64 GB USB drive that I would like to format with my Mac mini but seem to 
be having some trouble figuring how to do this.  Can anybody help?
* * * * * * * * *
Bill Gallik
wfgal...@icloud.com




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E-sword bible program

2015-05-05 Thread Terrence Sanders

Hello group,

   After reading your posts for a couple of years I finally bought a 
macbook pro.  I am definitely learning a lot.  Now, I need a Bible 
program for it.  I read that the E-sword works for iPhone.  But, before 
paying for it, I need to know does it work with the mac? Thanks for any 
help.  If not this program, then what Bible program will work on the mac?


Terry Sanders

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Re: vario ultra

2015-05-05 Thread Deb Lewis
I have mine connected to two Iphones, an Ipad and a Mac. i've had it
connected to the Windows machine but it has not been as satisfactory
an experience because of the problems I've mentioned before with the
JAWS driver. But I'm very pleased with all my apple connections.

On 5/5/15, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Gene.
 I'm sure others on the list may find the answers helpful. I have not
 connected mine to my Mac yet, but have been using it with my iPhone
 for the past couple of months. What questions did you have? You may
 also find my review at:
 http://www.applevis.com/reviews/braille-devices/varioultra-20-great-start-baum

 Scott

 On 5/4/15, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All:
 Some time ago there was a discussion on this list about the Vario Ultra
 and
 how it works with Mac and I-phone.  There were a couple of people who are
 using this machine and I would like to be in touch with them off list as
 I
 have some questions.

 If you could please contact me at:
 radiofore...@gmail.com mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com
 I would be very appreciative.

 Jean

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Re: Hand Off Without A Mac, Can This Be Done?

2015-05-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom
One thing though, if the tool discovers that your mac doesn’t have a Bluetooth 
4.0 or whatever it is that works card or chip or whatever it will warn you to 
that fact and quit, so i personally didn’t have any use for the tool.
/Krister

 4 maj 2015 kl. 21:49 skrev Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se:
 
 Hi!
 You can use hand off with old macs if you have the continuity activation tool.
 I don’t have the link now but i can provide it if there’s any intrest.
 /A
 4 maj 2015 kl. 11:45 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com:
 
 Yes, it’s the case.  My Mac is too old for handoff, but since getting an 
 Apple Watch, it’s been worthwhile turning it back on on my phone, and also 
 my iPod Touch.  All three work together, sans Mac.
 
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Re: Radium

2015-05-05 Thread Terje Strømberg
Maybe it is a setting to get the favorits launch at startup. Often «interact» 
vo-shift + m works to hit buttons and vo-shift + up arrow to get out again.

Take care

3. mai 2015 kl. 07:08 skrev gs geoffsli...@gmail.com:

Well, although I stated a little while ago that pressing the button in Radium 
would get one's favorite stations, it doesn't seem to work at this point.

I truly wish that an app that is rather accessible would elect to remain that 
way.

Radium for Mac OS X is a mess at this point.



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Re: E-sword bible program

2015-05-05 Thread Deb Lewis
We had this discussion somewhere a few weeks ago and think we all came
to agreement that there is currently no accessible Bible program for
the Mac. Most of us go to the Bible Gateway site in safari. Obviously
that doesn't offer some of the benefits of having a full featured app,
but no options right now.

On 5/5/15, Terrence Sanders sanders.terre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello group,

 After reading your posts for a couple of years I finally bought a
 macbook pro.  I am definitely learning a lot.  Now, I need a Bible
 program for it.  I read that the E-sword works for iPhone.  But, before
 paying for it, I need to know does it work with the mac? Thanks for any
 help.  If not this program, then what Bible program will work on the mac?

 Terry Sanders

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Re: vario ultra

2015-05-05 Thread Scott Davert
Hi Gene.
I'm sure others on the list may find the answers helpful. I have not
connected mine to my Mac yet, but have been using it with my iPhone
for the past couple of months. What questions did you have? You may
also find my review at:
http://www.applevis.com/reviews/braille-devices/varioultra-20-great-start-baum

Scott

On 5/4/15, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All:
 Some time ago there was a discussion on this list about the Vario Ultra and
 how it works with Mac and I-phone.  There were a couple of people who are
 using this machine and I would like to be in touch with them off list as I
 have some questions.

 If you could please contact me at:
 radiofore...@gmail.com mailto:radiofore...@gmail.com
 I would be very appreciative.

 Jean

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Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Shaf
Precisely. You need to send that entire message you wrote to 
accessibil...@apple.com. The more requests, the more likely we'll have 
it implemented.


On 5/5/2015 10:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
Ironically, when the JAWS Speech and Sounds Manager came to be back in 
JAWS 5.0 for Windows, I used to think it was a bug that JAWS 
*wouldn’t* take a pause while sounds were playing. In JAWS, the speech 
goes on over top of all sounds. However, as I continued to get used to 
the JAWS behaviour I realized that it is in fact a huge benefit and 
efficiency booster. For example, rather than having JAWS say the word 
“link” every time a link is encountered, it can play a subtle clicking 
sound. And since that sound doesn’t interrupt the flow of speech, it 
lets you get through web pages faster. While you can do this with VO, 
the speech pauses whenever the sounds are played, creating less of a 
speed improvement.


In any case, it would certainly be nice for this behaviour to be 
configurable. In fact, there are probably people who don’t like the 
JAWS approach and prefer the way VoiceOver handles this. So 
configurability is definitely the key.


Cheers.

Grant

On May 5, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com 
mailto:shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:


I urge you all to also report this bug to accessibil...@apple.com so 
that they may take it seriously and squash it.



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:VoiceOver responsive bug
Date:   Tue, 05 May 2015 12:11:49 +0100
From:   Shaf s...@shafpatel.com
To: accessibil...@apple.com



I've found a bug with VoiceOver on Mac running latest Yosemite:
Whenever you navigate through items with navigation sounds enabled,
VoiceOver speech will always wait for the sound to finish and then speak
the item focused. This increases the delay a lot. If turning sounds off,
VoiceOver is a lot more responsive as it does not need to render sounds
before speech.
Can we please have an option to play a sound an speak items
simultaneously rather than having to wait for a navigation sound to play
to here what's in focus? This would be much appreciated.


Warm Regards
-Shaf
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Re: anyone figured out how to move apps where you want them on the Apple watch?

2015-05-05 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Because I was tired George.
On 5 May 2015, at 03:19, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Hay kawal why didn't you change the subject line...lol


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 14:40
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: anyone figured out how to move apps where you want them on the 
Apple watch?

Hey Donna.

Please tell me how to get the watch to speak my messages if I lift my wrist 
please?

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 4 May 2015, at 09:53, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hi Kawal,

You know, it's funny.  I haven't yet taken a phone call, but I've used the 
messages app a lot, which I really hadn't expected to do.  But it is incredibly 
convenient to just lift your wrist, hear the message, and dictate the reply or 
use one of the auto-replies without having to mess with your phone.

I agree about the minute and second buttons, that would have been a much better 
way to set the work-out duration.  Flicking the digital crown till you get to 
the desired timetakes way too long.

I can see why your ex would return the watch.  For me, the volume is just about 
right, not so loud as to be disruptive, but loud enough that you can hear it.  
But it certainly seems like it would be insufficient for someone who has 
hearing difficulties.  I have the 38-inch model, though, I don't know whether 
the speaker is any louder on the 42 inch.
Cheers,
Donna
 On May 3, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'm very happy with my watch as it can get better.
 
 Tunin Radio Pro is not working on my watch, but Radio Player works very well 
 on it.  I picked up my first call using my Apple watch yesterday as it was 
 good not to run around the house looking for my phone to answer the call.
 
 If you remember, you stated that your work out had no ending, well, I did a 
 work out earlier today and there was no back button so that you could end the 
 work out, plus you had to keep flicking up when you had to add the minutes.  
 The problem was, there was no minute button so all the picker items started 
 in seconds then minutes.  So to flick 20 minutes, you had to flick more than 
 twenty times to get into minutes.  I don't understand why Apple didn't put a 
 minute and a second button in the work out app.  Then once the work out ended 
 which there was no feedback, this workout could have gone on and on and on.  
 So in the end, I powered my watch off.
 
 But in all, I like my watch and don't regret it.  In my view, the watch in 
 time will get better and although everyone says there will be a second 
 generation, I do wonder as know one knows how popular this item is.  I have a 
 feeling that this item may not be as I got my watch very early which leads me 
 to think there may be not a big demand for this product as people's budgets 
 don't always have the affordability to get new gadgets.  Time will tell as to 
 how many watches have sold.  I don't know if the blind community will go for 
 the watch as there are talking watches on the market although they are not 
 smart watches.
 
 I already know that Apple will say that they have sold many watches but I 
 don't think the blind community will by many unless they think that this 
 product is necessary.  I know from other blind lists, my Blind X husband is 
 already selling his because he can't hear it due to an hearing impairment.
 
 Kawal.
 On 3 May 2015, at 22:11, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 Yeah, I've pretty much given up, too.  that's too bad, it'd be nice to be 
 able to organize them so you can move efficiently between the ones you use 
 the most..
 
 How are you feeling about your watch at this point?  I still haven't decided 
 whether to keep it or return it.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 So I too experienced difficulty in moving apps on my Watch as when I used 
 the Watch app on my I phone to do it, I thought as I could never move stuff 
 on my I phone that it didn't work.  So I have given up how to move apps on 
 my I watch.
 
 Kawal.
 On 3 May 2015, at 03:35, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Charlie,
 
 But I'm not talking about the Watch Face, I'm talking about the home screen, 
 i.e. if you press the crown, you'll  probably hear it say Clock.  I'd like 
 the WorkOut icon to be one flick above Clock.  So the size of the icons on 
 the watch face is irrelevant.
 Cheers,
 Donna   
 On May 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, 
 
 Keep in mind turning the digital crown changes the size of the icons on the 
 watch face and the larger the fewer appear on the watch face. 
 If you. Have any other questions feel free.  
 
 Aloha,
 
 Charlie 
 
 On May 2, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Charlie,
 
 I got that far.  the problem is they don't show up 

Re: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Grant Hardy
Ironically, when the JAWS Speech and Sounds Manager came to be back in JAWS 5.0 
for Windows, I used to think it was a bug that JAWS *wouldn’t* take a pause 
while sounds were playing. In JAWS, the speech goes on over top of all sounds. 
However, as I continued to get used to the JAWS behaviour I realized that it is 
in fact a huge benefit and efficiency booster. For example, rather than having 
JAWS say the word “link” every time a link is encountered, it can play a subtle 
clicking sound. And since that sound doesn’t interrupt the flow of speech, it 
lets you get through web pages faster. While you can do this with VO, the 
speech pauses whenever the sounds are played, creating less of a speed 
improvement.

In any case, it would certainly be nice for this behaviour to be configurable. 
In fact, there are probably people who don’t like the JAWS approach and prefer 
the way VoiceOver handles this. So configurability is definitely the key.

Cheers.

Grant

On May 5, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:

I urge you all to also report this bug to accessibil...@apple.com 
mailto:accessibil...@apple.com so that they may take it seriously and squash 
it.


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:VoiceOver responsive bug
Date:   Tue, 05 May 2015 12:11:49 +0100
From:   Shaf s...@shafpatel.com mailto:s...@shafpatel.com
To: accessibil...@apple.com mailto:accessibil...@apple.com

I've found a bug with VoiceOver on Mac running latest Yosemite:
Whenever you navigate through items with navigation sounds enabled, 
VoiceOver speech will always wait for the sound to finish and then speak 
the item focused. This increases the delay a lot. If turning sounds off, 
VoiceOver is a lot more responsive as it does not need to render sounds 
before speech.
Can we please have an option to play a sound an speak items 
simultaneously rather than having to wait for a navigation sound to play 
to here what's in focus? This would be much appreciated.


Warm Regards
-Shaf

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RE: anyone figured out how to move apps where you want them on the Apple watch?

2015-05-05 Thread george b
Well I am tired opening messages that do not pertain to the subject line

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 14:27
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: anyone figured out how to move apps where you want them on the 
Apple watch?

Because I was tired George.
On 5 May 2015, at 03:19, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Hay kawal why didn't you change the subject line...lol


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 14:40
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: anyone figured out how to move apps where you want them on the 
Apple watch?

Hey Donna.

Please tell me how to get the watch to speak my messages if I lift my wrist 
please?

Thanks.

Kawal.
On 4 May 2015, at 09:53, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

Hi Kawal,

You know, it's funny.  I haven't yet taken a phone call, but I've used the 
messages app a lot, which I really hadn't expected to do.  But it is incredibly 
convenient to just lift your wrist, hear the message, and dictate the reply or 
use one of the auto-replies without having to mess with your phone.

I agree about the minute and second buttons, that would have been a much better 
way to set the work-out duration.  Flicking the digital crown till you get to 
the desired timetakes way too long.

I can see why your ex would return the watch.  For me, the volume is just about 
right, not so loud as to be disruptive, but loud enough that you can hear it.  
But it certainly seems like it would be insufficient for someone who has 
hearing difficulties.  I have the 38-inch model, though, I don't know whether 
the speaker is any louder on the 42 inch.
Cheers,
Donna
 On May 3, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'm very happy with my watch as it can get better.
 
 Tunin Radio Pro is not working on my watch, but Radio Player works very well 
 on it.  I picked up my first call using my Apple watch yesterday as it was 
 good not to run around the house looking for my phone to answer the call.
 
 If you remember, you stated that your work out had no ending, well, I did a 
 work out earlier today and there was no back button so that you could end the 
 work out, plus you had to keep flicking up when you had to add the minutes.  
 The problem was, there was no minute button so all the picker items started 
 in seconds then minutes.  So to flick 20 minutes, you had to flick more than 
 twenty times to get into minutes.  I don't understand why Apple didn't put a 
 minute and a second button in the work out app.  Then once the work out ended 
 which there was no feedback, this workout could have gone on and on and on.  
 So in the end, I powered my watch off.
 
 But in all, I like my watch and don't regret it.  In my view, the watch in 
 time will get better and although everyone says there will be a second 
 generation, I do wonder as know one knows how popular this item is.  I have a 
 feeling that this item may not be as I got my watch very early which leads me 
 to think there may be not a big demand for this product as people's budgets 
 don't always have the affordability to get new gadgets.  Time will tell as to 
 how many watches have sold.  I don't know if the blind community will go for 
 the watch as there are talking watches on the market although they are not 
 smart watches.
 
 I already know that Apple will say that they have sold many watches but I 
 don't think the blind community will by many unless they think that this 
 product is necessary.  I know from other blind lists, my Blind X husband is 
 already selling his because he can't hear it due to an hearing impairment.
 
 Kawal.
 On 3 May 2015, at 22:11, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 Yeah, I've pretty much given up, too.  that's too bad, it'd be nice to be 
 able to organize them so you can move efficiently between the ones you use 
 the most..
 
 How are you feeling about your watch at this point?  I still haven't decided 
 whether to keep it or return it.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On May 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Donna.
 
 So I too experienced difficulty in moving apps on my Watch as when I used 
 the Watch app on my I phone to do it, I thought as I could never move stuff 
 on my I phone that it didn't work.  So I have given up how to move apps on 
 my I watch.
 
 Kawal.
 On 3 May 2015, at 03:35, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Charlie,
 
 But I'm not talking about the Watch Face, I'm talking about the home screen, 
 i.e. if you press the crown, you'll  probably hear it say Clock.  I'd like 
 the WorkOut icon to be one flick above Clock.  So the size of the icons on 
 the watch face is irrelevant.
 Cheers,
 Donna   
 On May 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Donna, 

Fwd: VoiceOver responsive bug

2015-05-05 Thread Shaf
I urge you all to also report this bug to accessibil...@apple.com so 
that they may take it seriously and squash it.



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:VoiceOver responsive bug
Date:   Tue, 05 May 2015 12:11:49 +0100
From:   Shaf s...@shafpatel.com
To: accessibil...@apple.com



I've found a bug with VoiceOver on Mac running latest Yosemite:
Whenever you navigate through items with navigation sounds enabled,
VoiceOver speech will always wait for the sound to finish and then speak
the item focused. This increases the delay a lot. If turning sounds off,
VoiceOver is a lot more responsive as it does not need to render sounds
before speech.
Can we please have an option to play a sound an speak items
simultaneously rather than having to wait for a navigation sound to play
to here what's in focus? This would be much appreciated.


Warm Regards
-Shaf



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