Another awesome thing with the Mac Platform

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi all

I am currently running the beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, however in the last 
hour I have installed the public release of OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite. All went 
well, and I can boot into either operating system, even though the primary 
partition has an operating system newer than the secondary partition. You try 
this on Windows, you will be out of luck. You must install the oldest version 
first then the newer one if you want a successful multiboot environment. No 
such limitation exists on the Mac platform though.

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Taking Video for Youtube

[Brandon A. Olivares]

Hi everyone,

A few questions. I’d like to record video to upload to Youtube. What’s the best 
application to use for this?

Secondly, on a more practical note, is there a way I can do this independently, 
and yet make sure it’s capturing my face, and not like the top of my head or 
something? I know it won’t be perfect, being blind, but would like to make it 
as good as possible. Any other recommendations would be appreciated as well.

Peace,
Brandon


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Re: Things

[Grant]

Did you just buy this app? Aside from contacting the developers, you could also 
contact Apple through the receipt you received from the App Store. The format 
of the receipt, I think, has just been updated, but there should be something 
like a "report a problem" link. If you plan to uninstall the app and 
discontinue use, you may be able to request a refund due to the app not being 
accessible with VoiceOver.

Grant

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Things is not as accessible as it could be. Great app, but not worth $60.
> For example, it's hard to schedule a task to do, project etc. I may contact 
> the developers to see if they have any tips or can fix the UI a little.
> 
> 
> -Shaf
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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Grant]

To tell the truth, I suspect that the built-in Reminders app would work just 
fine for your purposes. You can have multiple reminder lists (e.g. one for your 
shopping list, one for a project you are working on) and you can of course have 
many reminders per list. These reminders may be associated with a time and/or a 
location, or neither. For example, entries in a list of books you'd like to 
read might not have to have any time or location associated with them. You 
might just want a static list of items with the ability to check off the ones 
you are finished with. Aside from location-based reminders, there is the 
ability to set up complex recurring rules as well as synchronization with 
Microsoft Exchange or iCloud. I would recommend giving it a try to see if its 
features are sufficient.

Grant

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It keeps track of projects in progress.  You can divide things into areas and 
> such, so you can then make lists of things to do like grocry shopping, work, 
> home, etc, and keep track of things specific to those areas and get reminders 
> of those things when you are in that area.
> 
> Maybe if I understood how the native reminders app works better, I could 
> figure out if it’ll do everything I want..
> Cait
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> Caitlyn, 
>> 
>> What does this things app offer that you cannot use the native reminders and 
>> Calendar app? I’m asking because maybe if you explain exactly what your 
>> needs are others can share what solutions they have found. I personally love 
>> using the reminders app for simple things but I have not tried anything too 
>> complicated.
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, and 
>>> they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on 
>>> steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about $60.
>>> 
>>> does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t cost 
>>> an arm and a leg?
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
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Things

[Shaf]

Things is not as accessible as it could be. Great app, but not worth $60.
For example, it's hard to schedule a task to do, project etc. I may 
contact the developers to see if they have any tips or can fix the UI a 
little.



-Shaf

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Re: accessible ssh client

[Shaf]

Please reread the OP's message.
As far as I know, there is no 'terminal' for iOS unless the iPhone is 
jailbroken.

Also, this is probably a topic for viph...@googlegroups.com
On 6/12/2015 8:01 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote:

Why not use terminal?

On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:

Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?

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Re: accessible ssh client

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The question was related to ssh in iOS, not MacOS, thus Terminal isn't really 
an option.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2015, at 13:01, Tyler Thompson  wrote:

Why not use terminal?
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?
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Re: accessible ssh client

[Tyler Thompson]

Why not use terminal?
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
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> Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[Devin Prater]

I think that I’d use Eloquence if it were for mac. We just have to get someone, 
like the person that made it for NVDA, to make it natively for mac.
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 10:49 AM, John D. Lipsey  wrote:
> 
> I like Eloquence well enough, but I would not want it on my mac or iPhone, 
> ever I don’t think.
> 
> For me, Eloquence is windows, Alex is Mac.  Since I do boot into a virtual 
> machine for mudding and the like, I enjoy having my 2 environments with 
> different voices.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> 
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> 
> Twitter: @J_TGL
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 23:38, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Like others on list I've played around with the solution that brings the 
>> Eloquence TTS to the Mac.
>> 
>> As pointed out it's horribly unstable.
>> 
>> If Apple can figure out a way of incorporating Eloquence in the next version 
>> of OS X I'd certainly be interested.
>> 
>> Alex has a very hard time announcing some names in Arabic and Somali my 
>> native languages.
>> 
>> Hope the Siri voices available in iOS 9 make  it into VoiceOver.
>> 
>> To be honest a lot of those voices need to go.
>> 
>> Not a lot has changed in terms of TTS since I got the Mac way back in 2010.
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> On 6/12/2015 6:32 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree with Shawn.  I've not been a fan of Eloquence ever primarily due to 
>>> how it sounds.  But, to each their own.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 14:11, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. The thing I have against Eloquence and even ESpeak is because they are 
>>> too robotic sounding. Actually, one of the reasons why I moved to the Mac 
>>> back in 2010 is because of Alex. When a friend of mine showed me how he 
>>> took breaths when he reads and when watching Youtube videos with him on 
>>> them, I was impressed with the way he sounded. Bottom line is, I moved to 
>>> the Mac to get away from all robotic voices. Now I'm using Sharon from 
>>> Acapela who I think is the best US English voice they made. In my opinion, 
>>> like it or not, human natural voices are the future for us so I don't think 
>>> Eloquence or eSpeak will ever come on to the Mac, especially if what that 
>>> other poster said is true that Eloquence is discontinued.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my White MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 Jonathan,
 
 I totally totally agree with you!  If we could get Eloquence on the mac, 
 that would probably be the happiest day of my life!  I am one of those who 
 falls into the category you mentioned regarding Alex.  I can use him, but 
 I have to keep it at the default speaking rate, and even then, with my 
 hearing loss, I have to pay fairly close attention.  Especially if I'm 
 reading say, an entire paragraph or whatever in one chunk.  Again, I can 
 do it, but it's not easy.
 
 I don't honestly know what so many people have against Eloquence.  Even 
 the Vocalizer voices I can't seem to really understand terribly well.  I 
 can do it, as I said, but not easily.  I can't ramp Eloquence up very 
 fast, but I definitely have it slightly faster than the default both on my 
 JAWS and my Window-eyes.
 
 I know that Eloquence is also available for NVDA, but not legally, so 
 there went that idea.
 
 I know there is a port for Eloquence done by Tylor Spivy of Eloquence that 
 works on the mac, but it's a bit tricky to get it working, and is 
 incredibly incredibly unstable.  I used it just long enough to see if it 
 really actually worked, but obviously took it off, 1, when I saw how 
 unstable it was, and 2, due to the fact it's also illegal.  Even had it 
 worked flawlessly, I couldn't have kept it in good concience.
 
 I agree though, if there was a way to buy a mac ported stable mind you, 
 license for Eloquence, for OSX, I'd do it faster than a blink of an eye! 
 Darn straight I would!  It's really about the only synth I can not only 
 understand, but comfortably can listen to on and on for hours at a time.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:17 PM
 Subject: Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice
 
 
 Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but
 each to there own.
 
 On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
> people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
> you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
> cranked up remarkably fast.
> Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
> mispronounces far too much for my liki

Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

[Shaf]

Thanks so much Tim - I didn't think pressing anything on the trackpad 
would work. But it did and I managed to uninstall, thanks a lot!


On 6/12/2015 7:43 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

hi,

You can do just what the Help article says.  That is, navigate to the System 
Pref you wish to remove, do not press or VO-space on it.  When focus is on the 
button, use VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus to the VO cursor, then hold down the 
Control key while pressing the mouse or trackpad button.  The Contextual menu 
will appear with the Remove option for you.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:23, Shaf  wrote:

Hi

If I install a custom System Preferences pain, how can I accessibly uninstall 
it? There's no uninstall button in said pain and the help files on Apple say to 
control right click.


-Shaf



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Re: accessible ssh client

[Shaf]

Yes. Prompt 2.

On 6/12/2015 7:25 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:

Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?



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Re: uninstalling system prefs pain

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

You can do just what the Help article says.  That is, navigate to the System 
Pref you wish to remove, do not press or VO-space on it.  When focus is on the 
button, use VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus to the VO cursor, then hold down the 
Control key while pressing the mouse or trackpad button.  The Contextual menu 
will appear with the Remove option for you.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:23, Shaf  wrote:

Hi

If I install a custom System Preferences pain, how can I accessibly uninstall 
it? There's no uninstall button in said pain and the help files on Apple say to 
control right click.


-Shaf

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accessible ssh client

[Todor Fassl]

Can anyone please recommend an accessible ssh client for IOS?

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uninstalling system prefs pain

[Shaf]

Hi

If I install a custom System Preferences pain, how can I accessibly 
uninstall it? There's no uninstall button in said pain and the help 
files on Apple say to control right click.



-Shaf

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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Marshall Scott]

Hi, I guess you missed my post.  The Mac version of Things (possibly 
misspelled) is notaccessible.  There are items marked as unknown in the windows.
HTH
Marshall

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> I'm going to download a Mac copy from somewhere and see if it's accessible. 
> Will get back with an update.
> 
> On 6/12/2015 1:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> thanks for this suggestion.
>> Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. 
>>> However, I was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They 
>>> have an app which is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it 
>>> with exchange or some other calendar. You can list your roles that is 
>>> teacher, mother, spouse at Cetera.c then you can list your things to do 
>>> under each role. You can prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like 
>>> it a lot. Just my two cents.
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or 
 not..
 There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.
 
 I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly 
 later today.
 
 Thanks,
 Cait
 
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?
> 
>> On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which 
>> are both accessible *and* less expensive!!
>> 
>> I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does 
>> and then hopefully make intelligent suggestions!
>> 
>> Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
>> thanks for any help, etc..
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the 
>>> accessibility of the app?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
 Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to 
 answer your question???
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?
 
 How accessible is it, do you know?
 
> On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
> Hi,
> I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the 
> mac, and they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and 
> scheduler on steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is 
> very steep-about $60.
> 
> does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t 
> cost an arm and a leg?
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
> 
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Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice

[John D. Lipsey]

I like Eloquence well enough, but I would not want it on my mac or iPhone, ever 
I don’t think.

For me, Eloquence is windows, Alex is Mac.  Since I do boot into a virtual 
machine for mudding and the like, I enjoy having my 2 environments with 
different voices.

DFTBA!

John D. Lipsey

mail: johnl1...@gmail.com

Twitter: @J_TGL

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 23:38, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Like others on list I've played around with the solution that brings the 
> Eloquence TTS to the Mac.
> 
> As pointed out it's horribly unstable.
> 
> If Apple can figure out a way of incorporating Eloquence in the next version 
> of OS X I'd certainly be interested.
> 
> Alex has a very hard time announcing some names in Arabic and Somali my 
> native languages.
> 
> Hope the Siri voices available in iOS 9 make  it into VoiceOver.
> 
> To be honest a lot of those voices need to go.
> 
> Not a lot has changed in terms of TTS since I got the Mac way back in 2010.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 6/12/2015 6:32 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I agree with Shawn.  I've not been a fan of Eloquence ever primarily due to 
>> how it sounds.  But, to each their own.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 14:11, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. The thing I have against Eloquence and even ESpeak is because they are 
>> too robotic sounding. Actually, one of the reasons why I moved to the Mac 
>> back in 2010 is because of Alex. When a friend of mine showed me how he took 
>> breaths when he reads and when watching Youtube videos with him on them, I 
>> was impressed with the way he sounded. Bottom line is, I moved to the Mac to 
>> get away from all robotic voices. Now I'm using Sharon from Acapela who I 
>> think is the best US English voice they made. In my opinion, like it or not, 
>> human natural voices are the future for us so I don't think Eloquence or 
>> eSpeak will ever come on to the Mac, especially if what that other poster 
>> said is true that Eloquence is discontinued.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan,
>>> 
>>> I totally totally agree with you!  If we could get Eloquence on the mac, 
>>> that would probably be the happiest day of my life!  I am one of those who 
>>> falls into the category you mentioned regarding Alex.  I can use him, but I 
>>> have to keep it at the default speaking rate, and even then, with my 
>>> hearing loss, I have to pay fairly close attention.  Especially if I'm 
>>> reading say, an entire paragraph or whatever in one chunk.  Again, I can do 
>>> it, but it's not easy.
>>> 
>>> I don't honestly know what so many people have against Eloquence.  Even the 
>>> Vocalizer voices I can't seem to really understand terribly well.  I can do 
>>> it, as I said, but not easily.  I can't ramp Eloquence up very fast, but I 
>>> definitely have it slightly faster than the default both on my JAWS and my 
>>> Window-eyes.
>>> 
>>> I know that Eloquence is also available for NVDA, but not legally, so there 
>>> went that idea.
>>> 
>>> I know there is a port for Eloquence done by Tylor Spivy of Eloquence that 
>>> works on the mac, but it's a bit tricky to get it working, and is 
>>> incredibly incredibly unstable.  I used it just long enough to see if it 
>>> really actually worked, but obviously took it off, 1, when I saw how 
>>> unstable it was, and 2, due to the fact it's also illegal.  Even had it 
>>> worked flawlessly, I couldn't have kept it in good concience.
>>> 
>>> I agree though, if there was a way to buy a mac ported stable mind you, 
>>> license for Eloquence, for OSX, I'd do it faster than a blink of an eye! 
>>> Darn straight I would!  It's really about the only synth I can not only 
>>> understand, but comfortably can listen to on and on for hours at a time.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but
>>> each to there own.
>>> 
>>> On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with 
 people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once 
 you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel 
 cranked up remarkably fast.
 Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
 mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the 
 more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech 
 is extremely subjective.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote

Organizer suggestions

[Nancy Badger]

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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Shaf]

Thanks for letting me know! I'll definitely take a look at this.


-Shaf

On 6/12/2015 3:07 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

Hi Shaf,

You can get a free trial of Things from the developer’s web site.  I got it and 
it is accessable.  There are only two unlabeled buttons, which are plus and 
moinus for adding and removing entries.  the free trial is 15 days long and 
seems to be fully functional.

If you look up Things in the mac app store, there is a link for the developer’s 
web site where you can download the free trial.

I don’t have time right now to go and get the link for everybody right now..
thanks!
Caitlyn


On Jun 12, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Shaf  wrote:

I'm going to download a Mac copy from somewhere and see if it's accessible. 
Will get back with an update.

On 6/12/2015 1:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

thanks for this suggestion.
Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
Caitlyn


On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

Hello,
I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. However, I 
was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They have an app which 
is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it with exchange or some 
other calendar. You can list your roles that is teacher, mother, spouse at 
Cetera.c then you can list your things to do under each role. You can 
prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like it a lot. Just my two cents.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

Hi there,
It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or not..
There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.

I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly later 
today.

Thanks,
Cait


On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:

I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?


On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which are both 
accessible *and* less expensive!!

I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does and then 
hopefully make intelligent suggestions!

Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
thanks for any help, etc..
Caitlyn


On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:

Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the accessibility 
of the app?



On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to answer your 
question???

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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?

How accessible is it, do you know?


On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
Hi,
I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, and they 
have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on steroids!!  I 
would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about $60.

does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t cost an 
arm and a leg?

thanks!
Caitlyn


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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Nancy Badger]

Yes it is available in the App Store. You just search for Franklin Covey. The 
app does not seem to have an actual name other than Franklin Covey. I will see 
if I can figure out how to share it from the app store.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:46 PM, John's Gmail  wrote:
> 
> What is the name of the app and is it available in the App Store?
> John Harden
> Quality Brailler Repair LLC
> 
> For professional Perkins Braille Writer repair.
>  
> 386-238-5871
> jharde...@cfl.rr.com 
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> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. However, 
>> I was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They have an app 
>> which is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it with 
>> exchange or some other calendar. You can list your roles that is teacher, 
>> mother, spouse at Cetera.c then you can list your things to do under each 
>> role. You can prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like it a lot. 
>> Just my two cents.
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or 
>>> not..
>>> There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.
>>> 
>>> I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly later 
>>> today.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
>>> 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:
 
 I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?
 
> On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
> I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which 
> are both accessible *and* less expensive!!
> 
> I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does and 
> then hopefully make intelligent suggestions!
> 
> Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
> thanks for any help, etc..
> Caitlyn
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the 
>> accessibility of the app?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
>>> Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to 
>>> answer your question???
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?
>>> 
>>> How accessible is it, do you know?
>>> 
 On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 Hi,
 I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, 
 and they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on 
 steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about 
 $60.
 
 does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t 
 cost an arm and a leg?
 
 thanks!
 Caitlyn
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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi Shaf,

You can get a free trial of Things from the developer’s web site.  I got it and 
it is accessable.  There are only two unlabeled buttons, which are plus and 
moinus for adding and removing entries.  the free trial is 15 days long and 
seems to be fully functional.

If you look up Things in the mac app store, there is a link for the developer’s 
web site where you can download the free trial.

I don’t have time right now to go and get the link for everybody right now..
thanks!
Caitlyn

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> I'm going to download a Mac copy from somewhere and see if it's accessible. 
> Will get back with an update.
> 
> On 6/12/2015 1:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> thanks for this suggestion.
>> Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. 
>>> However, I was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They 
>>> have an app which is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it 
>>> with exchange or some other calendar. You can list your roles that is 
>>> teacher, mother, spouse at Cetera.c then you can list your things to do 
>>> under each role. You can prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like 
>>> it a lot. Just my two cents.
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
 wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or 
 not..
 There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.
 
 I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly 
 later today.
 
 Thanks,
 Cait
 
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?
> 
>> On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>> I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which 
>> are both accessible *and* less expensive!!
>> 
>> I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does 
>> and then hopefully make intelligent suggestions!
>> 
>> Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
>> thanks for any help, etc..
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the 
>>> accessibility of the app?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
 Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to 
 answer your question???
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?
 
 How accessible is it, do you know?
 
> On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
> Hi,
> I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the 
> mac, and they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and 
> scheduler on steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is 
> very steep-about $60.
> 
> does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t 
> cost an arm and a leg?
> 
> thanks!
> Caitlyn
> 
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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Shaf]

I'm going to download a Mac copy from somewhere and see if it's 
accessible. Will get back with an update.


On 6/12/2015 1:48 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:

thanks for this suggestion.
Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
Caitlyn


On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

Hello,
I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. However, I 
was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They have an app which 
is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it with exchange or some 
other calendar. You can list your roles that is teacher, mother, spouse at 
Cetera.c then you can list your things to do under each role. You can 
prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like it a lot. Just my two cents.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

Hi there,
It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or not..
There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.

I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly later 
today.

Thanks,
Cait


On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:

I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?


On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which are both 
accessible *and* less expensive!!

I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does and then 
hopefully make intelligent suggestions!

Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
thanks for any help, etc..
Caitlyn


On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:

Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the accessibility 
of the app?



On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to answer your 
question???

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Shaf
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?

How accessible is it, do you know?


On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
Hi,
I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, and they 
have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on steroids!!  I 
would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about $60.

does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t cost an 
arm and a leg?

thanks!
Caitlyn


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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Caitlyn Furness]

thanks for this suggestion.
Sounds interesting and similar to the Things app..
Caitlyn

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have not looked at the things app that you all are talking about. However, 
> I was recently at a Franklin Covey productivity training. They have an app 
> which is very accessible. It is free unless you want to sync it with exchange 
> or some other calendar. You can list your roles that is teacher, mother, 
> spouse at Cetera.c then you can list your things to do under each role. You 
> can prioritize things, and give them due dates. I like it a lot. Just my two 
> cents.
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> It’s in the mac app store.  I don’t know if there is a trial version or not..
>> There has to be something less costly and that works with vo.
>> 
>> I am going to email the developer and see if they made it vo friendly later 
>> today.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Shaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can get a copy from  somewhere and test it out for accessibility?
>>> 
 On 6/10/2015 11:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
 I’m asking because I am hoping people here will have suggestions which are 
 both accessible *and* less expensive!!
 
 I gave the name of the app so people could go read about what it does and 
 then hopefully make intelligent suggestions!
 
 Sheesh-you guys amaze me at times!!
 thanks for any help, etc..
 Caitlyn
 
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Shaf  wrote:
> 
> Why would she be asking about it if she didn't have a clue on the 
> accessibility of the app?
> 
> 
>> On 6/10/2015 4:09 PM, george b wrote:
>> Well if she said it was to expensive why do you think she has it to 
>> answer your question???
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shaf
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 08:03
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: organizer suggestions?
>> 
>> How accessible is it, do you know?
>> 
>>> On 6/10/2015 3:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, 
>>> and they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on 
>>> steroids!!  I would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about 
>>> $60.
>>> 
>>> does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t 
>>> cost an arm and a leg?
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
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Re: organizer suggestions?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
It keeps track of projects in progress.  You can divide things into areas and 
such, so you can then make lists of things to do like grocry shopping, work, 
home, etc, and keep track of things specific to those areas and get reminders 
of those things when you are in that area.

Maybe if I understood how the native reminders app works better, I could figure 
out if it’ll do everything I want..
Cait

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Caitlyn, 
> 
> What does this things app offer that you cannot use the native reminders and 
> Calendar app? I’m asking because maybe if you explain exactly what your needs 
> are others can share what solutions they have found. I personally love using 
> the reminders app for simple things but I have not tried anything too 
> complicated.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I was recently pointed toward an app called things.  It’s for the mac, and 
>> they have an i phone version.  It’s a to do list and scheduler on steroids!! 
>>  I would love to get it, but the price is very steep-about $60.
>> 
>> does anybody have suggestions for a good app like this which doesn’t cost an 
>> arm and a leg?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Caitlyn
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downloading karaoke songs on youtube

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

hello folks, can somebody give me some tips how to download now some songs on 
youtube because before i can download most of the songs on youtube but now, it 
said that it was copyrighted. 
thanks

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Re: Chess on a mac with a braille sense U2

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

if you want to hear the last move, this is the key command “12 Jun 2015, at 
12:25 am, Matthew Dierckens mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> Good points here, and I actually didn't think about that when I sent my 
> message.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com 
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 18:19, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> I don't think so, in either case. The problem is that Chess speaks using 
> system speech, not VoiceOver, and system speech can't talk to braille, only 
> VoiceOver can. I just had a look and, sadly, Chess offers no AppleScript 
> control ability. Maybe the moves are displayed in the window, I'm not sure, 
> but all I can think to suggest is the game log, which will likely get 
> annoying to use after a while. I hope someone else has a better solution. 
> Sorry.
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys.
>> I had someone recently ask me about using a braille sense U2 with the chess 
>> application on the Mac.
>> Now, I haven't been able to test this with braille, as I don't have the U2 
>> and also whenever I load chess, the computer will have a fit after a few 
>> moves and shut down.
>> 
>> Nevertheless, this person would like to know how to get the display to show 
>> the moves of the computer.
>> If they set it to where it  speaks the moves, then will they show up on the 
>> display?
>> If not, will they show up if they go into the speech history mode? I think 
>> there is a speech history mode with VO, I haven't had to use it. Any help 
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
>> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com 
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recording iPhone screen using quicktime

[Venkatesh Potluri]

Hi,

I am recording the iPhone’s screen using quicktime. I chose the iPhone as
the video source and my macbook’s internal microphone for audio. I intend
to record a video of using a specific app with voiceover and my narration.
I assumed that voiceover would speak out and it’s output will be captured
by my macbook’s microphone along side my narration. However, Voiceover
stops speaking when I am recording the video. What am I doing wrong here?

Is there any better way or app to do this?

Thank you.

Regards,

Venkatesh

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Annoying issue with an external sound card.

['Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all.
I’ve just bought an external sound card, it is a Tascam US4x4.
It is linked with my iMac27 via the USB port.

Each time I turn off the computer or I put it sleeping and wake up again, the 
sound card is switched off.
To get it work again, I  must unplug it and plug in once again, or turn its 
power off and on again.

Any tips to solve it?
Thanks.
Gabriel.
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Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)

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