Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi. Keep in mind, the service just came out yesterday. There's bound to be some 
kinks that Apple needs to work out. There have been reports that the beats one 
station was down for a couple people yesterday. Give it time before you say 
that's disconcerting.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
 because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
 long I listen to it.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I solved that by pluging my Iphone in to my cable box's USB port to keep it 
charged and running airplay.  Damn, Apple has really scored big with this one 
for sure!!!


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 I was playing with it awhile today, and got down to 55 percent. I think they 
 want you to have a watch or something to use as a Siri remote to be able to 
 keep the phone on the charger. Even with Spotify, and I usually airplay it 
 through my old inactive 4S, the battery is done with from full in 2 hours or 
 less, but that thing isn't anywhere near new any more.
 
 - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:00 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
 ago, and now it just said 60 percent.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
 today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
 multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
 doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
 signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
 automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
 someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
 it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
 already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also 
 be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
 blowing me away.
 
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Ray Foret Jr
YOu can stream anything your heart desires if it's in the iTunes music 
collection.  I have several Sesame Street records, Classic Rock, and so forth 
in my library at this moment.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yeah, is it all techno/hip hop/rappy/poppy stuff though?  If so, then I 
 really am not that interested.  I'm more an 
 oldies/country/folk/gospel/bluegrass/children's music as a last resort guyh.
 
 IE:  Randy Travis, Vince Gill, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Beach Boys, Peter Paul 
 and Mary, Iris Dement, Alison Krauss, the Krabb Family, The Booth Brothers, 
 the Stanley Brothers, Alan Jackson, maybe some more really mellow stuff by 
 Brooks and Dunn, Patty Loveless, Reba, maybe Bette Middler, Tommy Page, 
 Roxette, James Taylor, kind a stuff like that.  You get the idea.  Maybe John 
 Denver.  I'm just not sure how much Beats1 would cator to that type style.My 
 best friend calls it old fart music!  The bad thing's he's my age! 33 years 
 old!  So there!  Pull my finger!  Oh wait...  Seriously though, to you think 
 I should check it out, or do you agree, this probably ain't gonna be my cup a 
 tea.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:30 AM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 I thought it was pretty good. I'm not much into the techno stuff, or that 
 one exclusive song they played twice in a row, but for the hour or so I 
 listened, it was good. It's definitely a different style with the little 
 sounders mixed into the songs, but a live station wasn't meant to be 
 straight music and jingles either. It's definitely something to take a 
 listen to.
 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:17 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
 although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
 your ipinion?
 
 Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, probably 
 not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty good?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
 liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
 United States. The Beats1 isn't available in your country message I get 
 sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed 
 soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some 
 kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
 talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did. He 
 has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
 after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
 already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up. They 
 just automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
 unless someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
 and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
 I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
 also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that 
 is blowing me away.
 
 
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Re: What's the deal with syncing contacts between iPhone and Mac these days

2015-07-01 Thread Shaf

It should be auto synced.
If not, can you backup your contacts, delete them from iCloud and 
reupload them?

Also don't forget you have groups. Make sure you're not in the wrong group.


-Shaf
On 7/1/2015 7:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

I just noticed that there are some discrepancies in my contact lists between my 
Mac and my iPhone.  I remember that the whole syncing thing changed a year or 
so ago, but don't remember what the deal is currently.  Is there any way to get 
them synced?
Thanks,
Donna



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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Chris

Yes you can by getting the latest iTunes which is 12.2.

On 01/07/2015 18:57, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

can i play apple music on macbook?

On 01 Jul 2015, at 2:46 pm, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

The same thing happens with SiriusXM.  I guess it's their way to make sure you 
don't just leave it streaming if no one's listening.  But I agree, it is 
annoying.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
long I listen to it.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook




On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same now 
with Apple Music, but should imagine so.


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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if anyone 
else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip hop station 
that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to stream so don't 
know why this is happening. Any suggestions?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

2015-07-01 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
can i play bits music on my mac book?
 On 01 Jul 2015, at 9:31 am, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Since us in the UK never head Beats Music, shame on you, lol, I understand 
 both are the same.
 
 
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 02:13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's the difference now between Apple music and Beats music?  I didn't 
 know a change was made.
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name 
 to Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
 listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
 disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio 
 section so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. 
 If there is one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. 
 Thanks.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
 practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
 let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats 
 Music, Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
 
 And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
 
 I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs 
 some help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would 
 be an honor! to help you out with it.
 
 Chris.
 
 
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What's the deal with syncing contacts between iPhone and Mac these days

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

I just noticed that there are some discrepancies in my contact lists between my 
Mac and my iPhone.  I remember that the whole syncing thing changed a year or 
so ago, but don't remember what the deal is currently.  Is there any way to get 
them synced?
Thanks,
Donna

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logos bible software 6 with voiceover on the mac

2015-07-01 Thread Brian Howerton
Hello all,
I am thinking about purchasing logos bible software 6 for the mac.  I’m going 
to make the first payment and give it a test run with voiceover, but I was 
wondering if anyone has had a go with it with voiceover.  I know that a 
previous version was accessible, and the sales person I spoke with was familiar 
with voiceover.  I also posted to the logos bible software forums to see if 
anyone has had a gone with it with voiceover on the mac, but so far no 
response.  Has anyone on here played with it?  When I get it and have a chance 
to play with it, I will report on the accessibility of it.  I’m getting ready 
to start seminary in the fall, so being able to use logos bible software for 
school would be absolutely amazing.  
Brian

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Re: What's the deal with syncing contacts between iPhone and Mac these days

2015-07-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna,

You can either use iCloud or sync directly when you connect your iPhone to your 
Mac.
I sync my contacts when I connect my iPhone to my Mac, but I sync calendars via 
iCloud so that my husband and I can share them and keep track of appointments.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 1 Jul 2015, at 20:43, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just noticed that there are some discrepancies in my contact lists between 
 my Mac and my iPhone.  I remember that the whole syncing thing changed a year 
 or so ago, but don't remember what the deal is currently.  Is there any way 
 to get them synced?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sesame Street?  Um, Ray?  Is there something you'd like to tell us?

No, just kidding with ya.

C is fo coo kee, that's good enough... oh, wait.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  Seriously though, so do I, believe it or not.

Hey!  At least I don't got Dora the Explorer!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: Mac Visionaries List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:15 AM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


  YOu can stream anything your heart desires if it's in the iTunes music 
collection.  I have several Sesame Street records, Classic Rock, and so forth 
in my library at this moment.


  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in


On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Yeah, is it all techno/hip hop/rappy/poppy stuff though?  If so, then I 
really am not that interested.  I'm more an 
oldies/country/folk/gospel/bluegrass/children's music as a last resort guyh.

IE:  Randy Travis, Vince Gill, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Beach Boys, Peter Paul 
and Mary, Iris Dement, Alison Krauss, the Krabb Family, The Booth Brothers, the 
Stanley Brothers, Alan Jackson, maybe some more really mellow stuff by Brooks 
and Dunn, Patty Loveless, Reba, maybe Bette Middler, Tommy Page, Roxette, James 
Taylor, kind a stuff like that.  You get the idea.  Maybe John Denver.  I'm 
just not sure how much Beats1 would cator to that type style.My best friend 
calls it old fart music!  The bad thing's he's my age! 33 years old!  So there! 
 Pull my finger!  Oh wait...  Seriously though, to you think I should check it 
out, or do you agree, this probably ain't gonna be my cup a tea.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



  I thought it was pretty good. I'm not much into the techno stuff, or that 
one exclusive song they played twice in a row, but for the hour or so I 
listened, it was good. It's definitely a different style with the little 
sounders mixed into the songs, but a live station wasn't meant to be straight 
music and jingles either. It's definitely something to take a listen to.

  - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:17 PM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station 
yet, although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
your ipinion?

Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, 
probably not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty good?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



  That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the United 
States. The Beats1 isn't available in your country message I get sometimes 
when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed soon. The state of 
Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some kind of intermittent bug, 
or has to do with wifi calling.


  - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did. He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after doing 
so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already signed 
up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up. They just automatically 
logged him in.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding 
br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



  How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get 
in, unless someone else on your plan did it.

  - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com
  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
  Subject: More 

Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Brent Harding
I think this might be standard across the board because they all pay 
something in royalties per song played, so they don't want idlers that 
aren't listening to drive the cost up more. Then again, it might've just 
been a stream drop because of the high load of tons of people experimenting 
with it like us.


- Original Message - 
From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music


Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
long I listen to it.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I 
can correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see 
if anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the 
hip hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi 
to stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
The same thing happens with SiriusXM.  I guess it's their way to make sure you 
don't just leave it streaming if no one's listening.  But I agree, it is 
annoying.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
 because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
 long I listen to it.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, that 
will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
thanks,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, copy 
 music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the music 
 you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match 
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music 
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old 
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into 
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the 
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How do I 
add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I try to add 
it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I can't.
TIA,
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
I sure will, Chris.
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match subscription, 
 so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music subscription.  
 thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you have 
 the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, what is 
 the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
 iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
 music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
 bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
 having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
 being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
 loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
 wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
 last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old 
 itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, when I go to download 
 one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing 
 on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old 
 tracks not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states 
 and the fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. 
 Apple said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it 
 anyway when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Joe Quinn
The music that you legitimately purchase, you can do anything with it. Whether 
you have matched, Apple music, or nothing. Trust me, I know. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match 
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music 
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old 
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into 
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the 
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Playing music from Apple Music on the Mac

2015-07-01 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi,

I added several songs from Apple Music on my iPhone to my Library. They apear 
in the library in iTunes on my Mac but I’m not able to play them. If I click on 
a song it just make this plog sound and the play button is gray.

So isn’t it possible to play songs from Apple Music on my Mac? I’m using 
Yosemite 10.10.4 and iTunes 12.2.

Thanks and all the best
Jürgen


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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
wo wo wo wo!  You're kidding me!  OK, can you take a wav file, import it 
into Garageband, and then export it to Apple Music?  If so, then you have 
just made one? happy camper by this discovery.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


One cool thing is that garageband has an update too, which allows you to 
post your created music to apple music.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



Chris,
  Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?


On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.

Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



  Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)

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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when 
I

called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



  Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater
One cool thing is that garageband has an update too, which allows you to post 
your created music to apple music.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 Chris,
   Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
 about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
 so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
 mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
 I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.
 
 Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
 stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
 changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
 downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
 and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Look'at! Dude?
 
 When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
 Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
 that message, Apple pushed the update.
 
 I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
 called.  Don't be so chastizing!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
 That's
 only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
 really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
 will
 have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dionipher Presas Herrera
 dionip...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
 Subject: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You wrote:

Even for music I legitimately purchased?

Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
of 'em!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?

thanks,
Donna

On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all 
the music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would 
you

please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
perplexed, not to mention intrigued.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
subscription.  thanks, Chris.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match 
as

well. And vice versa.


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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
thanks,
Donna

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from 
the

computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.

- Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
viph...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line 
today


If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in 
addition

to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. 
I've

found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing
something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the
subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes
today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However,
when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 
code

on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes
match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of,
what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them,
which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't
required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to
apple music. any ideas?  thanks!

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Tada!  Toldja!  Go figure.  Wow, for once I got something right!  Hahaha!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Devin Prater 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


  Guess what guys? I seriously don't know how but my brightness was at 100%, 
and my screen curtain was off! This was after the update, so me being pretty 
much totally blind, with only a little light perception with bright lights that 
can outshine the room lights, I didn't know this until I checked.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Neither is mine, and yes, I do lock my screen.

If nothing else, turn on your screen curtain, and also set your brightness 
on top of that, to 0%.

That should help.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Guys,
Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, 
and, on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual 
general usage of the device.


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  On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:



  Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.



  Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:



Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after doing 
so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already signed 
up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just automatically 
logged him in.



Chris.



- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM

Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service





  How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.



  - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

  To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM

  Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service





  Hi all

  I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music 
app, and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also 
be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
away.





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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Lol.  Thanks!
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The music that you legitimately purchase, you can do anything with it. 
 Whether you have matched, Apple music, or nothing. Trust me, I know. :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match 
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music 
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old 
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into 
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the 
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater
Guess what guys? I seriously don't know how but my brightness was at 100%, and 
my screen curtain was off! This was after the update, so me being pretty much 
totally blind, with only a little light perception with bright lights that can 
outshine the room lights, I didn't know this until I checked.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Neither is mine, and yes, I do lock my screen.
 
 If nothing else, turn on your screen curtain, and also set your brightness on 
 top of that, to 0%.
 
 That should help.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:27 AM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Guys,
 Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, 
 and, on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual 
 general usage of the device.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
 ago, and now it just said 60 percent.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
 today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
 multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
 doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
 signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
 automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
 someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
 and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
 I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
 also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
 blowing me away.
 
 
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 The Tech Zone
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Re: Playing music from Apple Music on the Mac

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know... I'll have to test this in a bit for ya once this playlist ends. 
I've just been adding tracks with my phone to a playlist, although there's a 
little gotcha to that, so see my prior message.  Then, I turn around, and 
hope and pray! that they come up on the mac.  LOL!


Chris.

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To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:09 AM
Subject: Playing music from Apple Music on the Mac


Hi,

I added several songs from Apple Music on my iPhone to my Library. They 
apear in the library in iTunes on my Mac but I’m not able to play them. If I 
click on a song it just make this plog sound and the play button is gray.


So isn’t it possible to play songs from Apple Music on my Mac? I’m using 
Yosemite 10.10.4 and iTunes 12.2.


Thanks and all the best
Jürgen


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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Shawn, it works perfectly! well, ok, fine! Almost! perfectly, on the mac. 
You need to go to the app store, check for updates, and grab the latest 
ITunes 12.2.  It finally got released yesterday.  I'm seeing one really 
really major bug that is absolutely downright annoying, and being I'm an 
Apple dev, I'll look and see if the bug tracker has a classification yet for 
Apple Music.  If it does, I'll file it.  there is a work-around though to 
the problem which though annoying as heck, does work, and is fairly easy to 
do.  I'll explain that though in another thread, just to keep things 
organized better by e-mail subject.


Basically though once you get the new update, go into your music source on 
the mac, and you'll see 7 radio buttons within music.  One of them just like 
on I O S will say For You.  Hit that, then go do a search like normal.  Go 
down to your html area, interact, and boom!  You'll then be able to do 
pretty much anything you need to do.


Chris.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



Good thing I have a 5 gb data plan then, although I don't ever use it up in 
one month. I have Wifi most of the time. And about the infinite skips thing, 
I'm sure that the people that want to use Apple music after the free trial 
without paying for it will probably have a limit to the number of skips they 
can use. Also, I thought iTunes wasn't capable of using it yet. If this is 
wrong, how would I use it on the Mac?


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


I had some issues getting custom made Apple Music tracks added to 
playlists to sync from my IPhone across to ITunes on the mac, but that's 
really the only quirk I've found.  Actually, it started working after a 
while.  I think it's server load.  The one thing though I had to do is, I 
can't find a way to manually resync playlists which have songs from Apple 
Music not in my local library, nor in the cloud, that I'm only streaming. 
So, what I had to do is, after adding them on I O S, as I can't find a way 
to go to the For you section on the mac, then add something to a playlist. 
But on I O S, if I do it, then the only way I so far have been successful 
even 3/4 of the time only, is to command+Q, and quit ITunes, then come 
back in, and then it'll update.


I suspect either 1, it's server load, or 2, it would! auto-refresh, but 
only automatically after X amount of time.  God knows what that amount 
would be. I know it can't be changed, as if it could, I would a seen the 
option by now, as thorough as I was looking at things, trust me!  I'd say 
logically though, I'd think maybe once an hour.  If you want sooner, you 
gotta restart ITunes to force it.  Realize what I am saying isn't 
necessarily fact.  It's only what my observation is so far, so people like 
Shaf etc. don't come down my throat.  I'm only telling you what I've so 
far seen.  If you think you know better, then by all means, correct me. 
Do tell, as I'd be curious.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



I created a custom station on my old iPhone for S, and the same one showed 
up when I signed into my iPhone 5s. So it seems that custom stations are 
moving across just fine. I don't yet have the new iTunes on my Mac. And I 
haven't tried all the fancy stuff you're talking about otherwise, but 
custom stations are sinking or whatever you call it


Sent from my iPhone


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The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem 
to sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. 
I have a mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually 
having wifi handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can 
figure out how to add whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks 
like this could replace several music apps once I can figure out how to 
manage playlists and stations and things across devices. Certainly 
impressed with sound quality and the fact that it has found everything I 
could possibly want to listen to. Now I just need to figure out how to 
make custom playlists and stations so I can do weird things like mix 
Accept albums with Bach and  bagpipe music and have it remember what I 
was playing  when I switch from one device to another because I bounce 
around a lot. But certainly this might save me from having to keep track 
of large collection of stuff once I can figure out the complexity! I 
certainly don't have enough disk space or time to go and download all the 
stuff I 

Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Why is that crap?  You dont' want it playing the same song 3 or 4 times in a 
row, do ya?  Well, let me reword that:  under normal condition! you don't, 
ha ha, do you?


Chris.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
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How crap. Lol! No repetitions so far with Apple Music.


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On 1 Jul 2015, at 01:52, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as 
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver 
user's standpoint



Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off 
with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, 
I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.


Shawn
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Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service 
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Apple music confusion: what am I doing wrong?

2015-07-01 Thread Christine Grassman
Okay, so multiple times, I have selected my most loved genres and have selected 
artists. At the end, it says got it. However, I am getting no recommendations, 
and each time I go back to it, it has not saved my options.
There is no done button, which I see on other screens. What am I doing wrong? I 
also do not see any next button when I am finished

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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Daniel, I just knew Shaf or someone would kick my mother effing ass! if I 
said what you just did, and that's why I bit my tongue and didn't, but 
frankly, thank you for beating me to it, and doing the job for me!  Guys, 
give Apple some slack!  They're really trying I think.


Chris.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music


Hi. Keep in mind, the service just came out yesterday. There's bound to be 
some kinks that Apple needs to work out. There have been reports that the 
beats one station was down for a couple people yesterday. Give it time 
before you say that's disconcerting.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably 
will because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit 
to how long I listen to it.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the 
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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've 
been listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no 
where the stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's 
something I can correct in settings but just thought I would get it out 
there to see if anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio 
station, the hip hop station that Apple created also does this as well. 
I'm using Wifi to stream so don't know why this is happening. Any 
suggestions?


Shawn
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So here's a little qwerk I found with Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm not sure if this is server load to blame, or really is! a bug.

Basically, I went on I O S to the For You tab.  I attempted to search for a 
song I'd never purchased before, and knew I never had in my ICloud, my 
purchases, or anything of sort.  Found the song and was able to play it just 
fine.  Once it played, I double tapped on the mini player.  In here I went to 
the more button bottom right corner of the screen.  In the menu I hit add to 
playlist, then added it to a playlist I created called Country Favorites.  Yes, 
I created this playlist on the IPhone by going to the my music tab, selecting 
playlists, then double tapping the new button, and filling out the info.

Once I selected that playlist to add the song to, Voiceover said it was added.  
Well, not really.  I went back and looked, and didn't see it at all.  After 
literally about the 10th time trying to add it, it finally! finally finally! 
took.  I then tried to go in ITunes on my mac.  I went to my music and to 
playlists.  I found the playlist, opened it up, but the song wasn't there.  I 
saw absolutely no way to refresh the playlist.  None at all!

Finally, after about the 3rd time quitting ITunes with Command+Q, and 
relaunching it from my dock, it finally! finally! updated, and I saw the song, 
but man! what a pain that was!

Now, you're probably saying, Chris, it's server overload.  You said so 
yourself.  Yes, you're right, I did indeed, but! here's what leads me to think 
otherwise that this may actually indeed be a true bug.  If I search for a song 
on I O S, then get to the search results, instead of double tapping the result 
to start playing it, if instead, I use my action rotor and flick down to more 
and double tap, if then! I use the menu, and hit add to playlist, then! select 
the country favorites playlist, then! it works very consistently, or, so it 
seems so far.  Then! if I close ITunes on my mac, and reopen it, it comes down 
right away.  It's the strangest! thing I've seen!  That's why I said, I don't 
know about what this whole ITunes match thing is vs. Apple Radio, per sé.  I 
thought maybe it was because if the song isn't in your library locally on the 
device/mac/PC, you then couldn't add it to the playlist, but just for the heck 
of it, obviously, I'm not this much a sicko! I would never ever ever ever ever 
ever! listen to this normally, but that was kind a my point.  I wanted 
something to the extreme.  I searched for and found the track, AntiChrist 
Superstar by Marilyn Manson.  Again, never would I normally listen to this.  
But, I added it to a playlist just to see if it would work.  It didn't when I 
did so from the now playing screen.  I thought well maybe if I locally download 
it to my device for offline playing, then it'll let me add it.  Tried doing 
that then adding from the mini player now playing screen.  It didn't work.  
Then, I went back and did it from the actions rotor without openning up the 
song or album to play first.  I just went to more within my actions rotor  out 
on the search results screen.  Then I tried from there adding it to the 
playlist.  Bam!  It worked like a charm first attempt.  I tried closing and 
reopenning ITunes, and what do ya know!  Bam!  There it was.  Obviously, I  
couldn't delete that satanic crap off my system fast enough, but I did so, and 
it did indeed go away on both my phone, and my mac, so, thank? Gawod!  My point 
is though, why the hell would this work from my results screen, but not from 
the now playing screen?  that is just totally cockeyed!

Any ideas?  I'm literally drawen a blank over here.

Chris.

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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Donna, I'm now really really confused as well, honestly.  See my soon coming 
message to the list about the bug I may a found in ITunes Music Playlist 
creation/syncing.  Then, I think you'll see what I mean about being so 
baffled.


Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you have 
the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, what is 
the cost of adding Apple Music?

thanks,
Donna

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.


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viph...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old 
itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, when I go to download 
one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing 
on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old 
tracks not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states 
and the fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. 
Apple said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it 
anyway when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!


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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wow, being I am an artist who is on ITunes, that's incredible!  I'll have to 
look more into this.


Chris.

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standpoint



Connect is a blog platform for artists and their fans connecting to each 
other, hence connect. I haven't really explored it to its fullest, but it 
looks like you double tap on an artist's post to see not only their post but 
any likes or comments posted. There is also a text field to submit your 
comment. If you have concerns over a post or comment(s), you can report your 
concerns to Apple. I'm actually surprised, in a good way of course, of how 
accessible it is. Of course, we won't be able to see their photos or videos, 
apart from the audio portion of course, but yes. That's accessible too, and, 
like I said, am pleasantly surprised of how they have done it.



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Chris, can you or someone else kind of explain what the connect feature 
does?


Chris.

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Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service 
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
Spotify.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I agree Ray.  Isn't it awesome?

As I said yesterday, I'm in heaven!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Mac Visionaries List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


  I solved that by pluging my Iphone in to my cable box's USB port to keep it 
charged and running airplay.  Damn, Apple has really scored big with this one 
for sure!!!




  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray


  Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

  Sent from my Mac,
  the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in


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I was playing with it awhile today, and got down to 55 percent. I think 
they want you to have a watch or something to use as a Siri remote to be able 
to keep the phone on the charger. Even with Spotify, and I usually airplay it 
through my old inactive 4S, the battery is done with from full in 2 hours or 
less, but that thing isn't anywhere near new any more.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.

Sent from my iPhone


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clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

  Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after doing 
so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already signed 
up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just automatically 
logged him in.

  Chris.

  - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
  Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service



How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.

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To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be 
the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
away.


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RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread george b
If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, copy 
music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the music you 
purchessed will be able to be burned and copied

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
perplexed, not to mention intrigued.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match 
subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music 
subscription.  thanks, Chris.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth 
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 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.


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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old 
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.

 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into 
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the 
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!

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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Ehh?  I dono though! Chris?  Here's the weird thing.  Look in ITunes on your 
mac.  Go in the menu bar to the Account menu.  In here you'll see ITunes 
Match...  If you hit this, it'll let you subscribe if not already for the 
$24 a year, or if already done, it'll let you turn it on or off.


The really bizarre thing though is, I signed up for Apple Music, Right? 
Well, it still is giving me under there, the option to pay the $24 anual fee 
to get Match.  So, I'm with Donna actually.  I'm totally conflabbergasted. 
I don't get it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
well. And vice versa.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
what is the cost of adding Apple Music?

thanks,
Donna

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.


- Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
viph...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, which 
is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
apple music. any ideas?  thanks!


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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Dude, there's not!  Just restart it.  I know it's a little inconvenient, but 
it's just one icon you gotta double tap to start playing again.  OK, 
granted, if you're at work and cant easily get to the device to do that, 
then? I could see your annoyance, but honestly I mean well when I say this, 
so please don't take this rudely, but am I just not understanding your 
lifestyle?  Is it really that hard to just hit one button, and go on?  It's 
not like you're having to do this after every single song.


Maybe I'm just too willing to put up with things, but honestly, that 
wouldn't really bother me too bad.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music


Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
long I listen to it.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.



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Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I 
can correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see 
if anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the 
hip hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi 
to stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?


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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you 
please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a 
perplexed, not to mention intrigued.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match 
subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music 
subscription.  thanks, Chris.

Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
well. And vice versa.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you 
have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, 
what is the cost of adding Apple Music?

thanks,
Donna

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old 
style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.


- Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
viph...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into 
the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the 
music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition 
to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, 
apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've 
found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing 
something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the 
subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes 
today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, 
when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code 
on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes 
match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of, 
what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to 
apple music. any ideas?  thanks!


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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Yeah.  That's kind a what I suspected.

Oh well, I may still listen just long enough to kind a see what it is, 
exactly. Never hurts to have an open mind.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi Chris. Yeah, Beats 1 is pretty much all rock, hip hop, techno and maybe 
some R  B tracks. The thing I like about it is unlike most FM radio 
stations, there's no real rotation so that means there's no repetition 
whatsoever. But if you're not into any of these genres I listed above, then 
no, it's not for you.


Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
your ipinion?


Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, 
probably not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty 
good?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
United States. The Beats1 isn't available in your country message I get 
sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed 
soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some 
kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that 
he'd already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up. 
They just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this 
should also be the case for the other family members. This is the 
latest that is blowing me away.



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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa, Pandora did that too.  I wonder if it's a way for them to cut down on 
their! server bandwdith cost.  I mean, if you're not listenning still, then 
why keep streaming it to you waisting their bandwidth, as if to them, money 
matters.  LOL!


I haven't had  a  station cut out completely, but what I have seen is, when 
streaming a song in the For You tab that I searched for, once in a blue 
moon, (great song by the way, LOL!) the audio would just all a sudden 
randomly duck itself about a 4th the volume lower.  It would be like going 
from 100% to about 75 to 80 percent volume.  It would do that for about half 
a second, then would go back to normal volume.  I thought it was just my 
ears being retarded though.  Maybe not though.


Chris.

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From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music


iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?


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RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread george b
No it will not be free until you buy the song

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 20:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.

- Original Message - 
From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
viph...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today

If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library

One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes 
match library. I thought, cool! However, when I go to download one of 
those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the 
iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks 
not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states and the 
fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. Apple 
said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it anyway 
when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!

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Re: Apple music confusion: what am I doing wrong?

2015-07-01 Thread Ray Foret Jr
IF you love all the music types firs that you want, there is a next button in 
the uper right part of the screen.  IF swiping to the left of the first music 
type, you will see the next button.  Press it.  You can then select from the 
relevant artists which pertain to your first selections.  However, let's say 
you want to skip all that and just start adding albums to your library.  Do a 
search from the for you tab.  You can search for specific albums, artists or 
what ever.  You will find the artist you like, then, if you move by headings, 
you can get directly to the albums list.  IF there are very many of them, the 
albums heading will have a button on it.  Press this to show all albums.  
Double tap the album you want and from there, you can either play it, or add it 
to your library from which you can play it later.  HTH.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Okay, so multiple times, I have selected my most loved genres and have 
 selected artists. At the end, it says got it. However, I am getting no 
 recommendations, and each time I go back to it, it has not saved my options.
 There is no done button, which I see on other screens. What am I doing wrong? 
 I also do not see any next button when I am finished
 
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RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread george b
Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
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 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However,
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes
 match lapse, 

Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Greg Aikens
Did you create the signature with the account you want selected in the first 
table or was “All signatures” selected when you created the signature? I can’t 
figure out how to move signatures I created under “All signatures” to specific 
accounts, but if I select the account first and then hit add, it lets me create 
signatures under each account. 


 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created using 
 the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. When I 
 select that particular account in the table, the Names table is empty, and 
 the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Greg Aikens
Hi Anne,
Thanks for this solution. I almost have it working. For some reason though, I 
am adding the signature to the wrong account. When I bring the mouse the second 
time it says the correct account name but  when I hit Shift+VO+Cmd+Space  to 
drop the signature, it says “Mouse up” on the name of one of my other email 
accounts. The signature now shows up in that other account and not the account 
I wanted. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Greg

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 Hello Donna,
 
 Try this:
 • Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
 • Navigate to the appropriate account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
 • Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).
 
 You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I 
 can't.
 TIA,
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Greg Aikens
Never mind. I got it to work. For some reason I have to bring the mouse twice. 
The first time it does not move the mouse cursor to the correct position but 
the second time seems to work.

Thanks again for this.


 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 Thanks for this solution. I almost have it working. For some reason though, I 
 am adding the signature to the wrong account. When I bring the mouse the 
 second time it says the correct account name but  when I hit 
 Shift+VO+Cmd+Space  to drop the signature, it says “Mouse up” on the name of 
 one of my other email accounts. The signature now shows up in that other 
 account and not the account I wanted. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Try this:
 • Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
 • Navigate to the appropriate account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
 • Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).
 
 You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in 
 the list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures 
 under each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I 
 can't.
 TIA,
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Greg,

Thanks for that idea. It’s definitely worth knowing.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:43, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Never mind. I got it to work. For some reason I have to bring the mouse 
 twice. The first time it does not move the mouse cursor to the correct 
 position but the second time seems to work.
 
 Thanks again for this.
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 Thanks for this solution. I almost have it working. For some reason though, 
 I am adding the signature to the wrong account. When I bring the mouse the 
 second time it says the correct account name but  when I hit 
 Shift+VO+Cmd+Space  to drop the signature, it says “Mouse up” on the name of 
 one of my other email accounts. The signature now shows up in that other 
 account and not the account I wanted. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Try this:
 • Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
 • Navigate to the appropriate account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
 • Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).
 
 You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I 
 remembered someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to 
 locate it in the list archives. As a work around, I have just created the 
 signatures under each account name instead of under the all accounts 
 spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  
 How do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but 
 when I try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use 
 it, I can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created using 
the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. When I 
select that particular account in the table, the Names table is empty, and the 
Choose button is dimmed.  G.
Thanks,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How do 
 I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I try 
 to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Apart from the addition of Apple music, have any bugs been  addressed in this 
release as it relates to VoiceOver? 

With regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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 On 2 Jul 2015, at 12:35 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 You sure can.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 wo wo wo wo!  You're kidding me!  OK, can you take a wav file, import it 
 into Garageband, and then export it to Apple Music?  If so, then you have 
 just made one? happy camper by this discovery.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 One cool thing is that garageband has an update too, which allows you to 
 post your created music to apple music.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 Chris,
 Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
 about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
 so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
 mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
 I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.
 
 Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
 stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
 changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
 downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
 and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Look'at! Dude?
 
 When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
 Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
 that message, Apple pushed the update.
 
 I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
 called.  Don't be so chastizing!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 Like today? Its downloading at this moment.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
 That's
 only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
 really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
 will
 have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dionipher Presas Herrera
 dionip...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
 Subject: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.
 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Can you give me the steps to do that, please, if you don't mind?

I normally use ProTools, so I'm really not familiar much with GB.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



You sure can.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


wo wo wo wo!  You're kidding me!  OK, can you take a wav file, import it 
into Garageband, and then export it to Apple Music?  If so, then you have 
just made one? happy camper by this discovery.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here


One cool thing is that garageband has an update too, which allows you to 
post your created music to apple music.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



Chris,
 Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?


On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his 
message
about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to 
your's,

so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought 
maybe

I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.

Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



 Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?


On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite 
yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I 
wrote

that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially 
when I

called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. 
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



 Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?


On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will 
be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, 
which

will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Dionipher Presas Herrera
dionip...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread eileen . misrahi
Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've
 found a loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing
 something wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the
 subspription lapse last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes
 today, I saw my old itunes match library. I thought, cool! However,
 when I go to download one of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code
 on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes
 match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in spite of,
 what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them,
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to
 apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Greg,

You’re not doing anything wrong. Sometimes, when you have a lot of accounts, 
VoiceOver screws up the DragDrop. They really need to fix this. You could try 
hiding everything else to leave the screen as uncluttered as possible and maybe 
make the window as big as possible, but beyond that, I really don’t know.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:35, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Anne,
 Thanks for this solution. I almost have it working. For some reason though, I 
 am adding the signature to the wrong account. When I bring the mouse the 
 second time it says the correct account name but  when I hit 
 Shift+VO+Cmd+Space  to drop the signature, it says “Mouse up” on the name of 
 one of my other email accounts. The signature now shows up in that other 
 account and not the account I wanted. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Try this:
 • Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
 • Navigate to the appropriate account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
 • Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).
 
 You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in 
 the list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures 
 under each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I 
 can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater
You sure can.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 wo wo wo wo!  You're kidding me!  OK, can you take a wav file, import it into 
 Garageband, and then export it to Apple Music?  If so, then you have just 
 made one? happy camper by this discovery.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 One cool thing is that garageband has an update too, which allows you to 
 post your created music to apple music.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 Chris,
  Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
 about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
 so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
 mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
 I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.
 
 Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
 stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
 changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
  Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
 downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
 and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Look'at! Dude?
 
 When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
 Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
 that message, Apple pushed the update.
 
 I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
 called.  Don't be so chastizing!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
  Like today? Its downloading at this moment.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 6/30/2015 2:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
 That's
 only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
 really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
 will
 have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Dionipher Presas Herrera
 dionip...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:21 PM
 Subject: os 10.10.4 is here
 
 
 just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Greg Aikens
Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under each 
account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How do 
 I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I try to 
 add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna,

Try this:
• Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
• Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
• Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
• Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
• Navigate to the appropriate account;
• Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
• Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
• Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).

You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created using 
 the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. When I 
 select that particular account in the table, the Names table is empty, and 
 the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
I created the signature a long time ago, so I don't remember for sure.  But I 
think that at the time, having All Signatures selected was a nightmare, so I'm 
fairly certain I had the account selected.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Did you create the signature with the account you want selected in the first 
 table or was “All signatures” selected when you created the signature? I 
 can’t figure out how to move signatures I created under “All signatures” to 
 specific accounts, but if I select the account first and then hit add, it 
 lets me create signatures under each account. 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I 
 can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Shaf
Yes. The App Store freezing bug seems to have been fixed. But I only 
tried it out on 1 Mac.


On 7/1/2015 4:30 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Apart from the addition of Apple music, have any bugs been  addressed in this 
release as it relates to VoiceOver?

With regards,

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: can't add a signature

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Anne,

Thanks so much, I would *never have figured this out!  Talk about something 
that really shouldn't be so complicated!  Anyway, thanks for the help, I'm 
saving your message in case I ever need to do this again. :)
Best,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Try this:
 • Select the signature you wish to apply to an account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space to hold the mouse down;
 • Navigate to the appropriate account;
 • Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5);
 • Press VO-Cmd-Shift-Space;
 • Put cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3).
 
 You need to interact with the tables and navigate with VO for this to work.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:42, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ugh, well, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I have the signature created 
 using the right account name, but I can't make it pair with the account. 
 When I select that particular account in the table, the Names table is 
 empty, and the Choose button is dimmed.  G.
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not a dumb question. I can’t make this work either. I thought I remembered 
 someone offering a solution a while back but was unable to locate it in the 
 list archives. As a work around, I have just created the signatures under 
 each account name instead of under the all accounts spot. 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I know this is a dumb question, but I absolutely can't make it work.  How 
 do I add a sig to an email account?  the signature is created, but when I 
 try to add it to the specific email account where I want to use it, I 
 can't.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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RE: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread george b
yes

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:58
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

can i play apple music on macbook?
 On 01 Jul 2015, at 2:46 pm, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 The same thing happens with SiriusXM.  I guess it's their way to make sure 
 you don't just leave it streaming if no one's listening.  But I agree, it is 
 annoying.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
 because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
 long I listen to it.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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RE: Note about the new Update.

2015-07-01 Thread george b
And what update??
8.4, osx 10.10.4, iTunes 12.2?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:31
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Note about the new Update.

Hi!
One thing i note with this new update is that it takes a bit longer before vo 
comes up talking.
Not a big deal, just a notice.
/A

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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Chris

Apple Music is not part of OS X but is part of iTunes.

On 01/07/2015 16:30, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

Apart from the addition of Apple music, have any bugs been  addressed in this 
release as it relates to VoiceOver?

With regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I am just in the middle of downloading Apple Music etc but today, I read an 
article from Mac rumours or whatever it is called.  It stated that you have to 
pay for Apple Music and ICloud match as they both compliment each other.  
However some on this list say that if you for instance have I Cloud Match then 
Apple Music is free.  Is this the case then, as the article said that you had 
to pay for both.

Kawal.
On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
 apparently being able to have 

matched vs. purchased, etc.

2015-07-01 Thread Joe Quinn
Seeing that I can't access my matched items, even though apple said I'd be able 
to with my having subscribed to apple music,  presumably cause I let my sub 
lapse, is why I can't though. Makes no sense to me, but there ya go. So, I may 
have to delete everything in my library that's matched, uploaded etc., and 
start again. Now how do I do this in the latest itunes? view options is of no 
help, and I've been through the preferences, but there's gotta be a way to 
sort, or at least be able to see whether your stuff is matched, or whatever. I 
can see if it's local or if I need to download it, but that's not what I want. 
Sorry for the rambling, but I wanted everyone to know where i'm at. Thanks for 
any help!

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RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread george b
Apple music is free for the first 90 days then you have to pay 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 14:14
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

I am just in the middle of downloading Apple Music etc but today, I read an 
article from Mac rumours or whatever it is called.  It stated that you have to 
pay for Apple Music and ICloud match as they both compliment each other.  
However some on this list say that if you for instance have I Cloud Match then 
Apple Music is free.  Is this the case then, as the article said that you had 
to pay for both.

Kawal.
On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 

Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Chris
Same here. I always have my iOS devices on me but not always my Mac or 
PC. Still no dealbreaker though.


On 01/07/2015 12:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Dude, there's not!  Just restart it.  I know it's a little inconvenient,
but it's just one icon you gotta double tap to start playing again.  OK,
granted, if you're at work and cant easily get to the device to do that,
then? I could see your annoyance, but honestly I mean well when I say
this, so please don't take this rudely, but am I just not understanding
your lifestyle?  Is it really that hard to just hit one button, and go
on?  It's not like you're having to do this after every single song.

Maybe I'm just too willing to put up with things, but honestly, that
wouldn't really bother me too bad.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music


Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably
will because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a
limit to how long I listen to it.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook




On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours
of inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is
the same now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.


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The Chat Zone
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The Tech Zone
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Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io






On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've
been listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no
where the stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's
something I can correct in settings but just thought I would get it
out there to see if anyone else experiences this. I also found
another radio station, the hip hop station that Apple created also
does this as well. I'm using Wifi to stream so don't know why this is
happening. Any suggestions?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Chris

Lol! I mean how crap you have to skip a lot in Spotify.

On 01/07/2015 12:14, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Why is that crap?  You dont' want it playing the same song 3 or 4 times
in a row, do ya?  Well, let me reword that:  under normal condition! you
don't, ha ha, do you?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver
user's standpoint


How crap. Lol! No repetitions so far with Apple Music.


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On 1 Jul 2015, at 01:52, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as
often, if not more, than FM radio at times.

- Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver
user's standpoint


Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango
when Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed
me off with Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning
with Spotify, I'd ban a song, and then after a while, I find that it's
playing again.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook




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challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi all
Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service
from a VoiceOver user's standpoint.
Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver.
Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect
feature appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye
from me to Spotify.
Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.


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apple care

2015-07-01 Thread May McDonald Homuth
Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so frustrated right 
now that I can't think straight.

Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple care if 
it's killed by water?

My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and soaking pretty 
much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain while I was out for lunch.

Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday here in 
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RE: apple care

2015-07-01 Thread M. Taylor
Hello May,

I am so sorry to hear about your poor Mac.

You can check the status of your Apple Care coverage at:
http://supportprofile.apple.com

I wish you all the best.

Mark 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of May McDonald Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvoiceo...@freelists.org
Subject: apple care

Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so frustrated right 
now that I can't think straight.

Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple care if 
it's killed by water?

My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and soaking pretty 
much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain while I was out for lunch.

Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday here in 
Canada, grrr!!


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m...@canadianlynx.ca

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Re: apple care

2015-07-01 Thread Shaf

No, your Mac is not covered if it is rain, spills etc.

On 7/1/2015 9:51 PM, May McDonald Homuth wrote:
Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so 
frustrated right now that I can't think straight.


Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple 
care if it's killed by water?


My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and 
soaking pretty much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain 
while I was out for lunch.


Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday 
here in Canada, grrr!!



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Re: What's the deal with syncing contacts between iPhone and Mac these days

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Ann,

That, apparently was my problem.  My iPhone was syncing with iCloud, but my Mac 
wasn't.  I think I now have it sorted out.  Thanks to you and Schaf for 
responding.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:55 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 You can either use iCloud or sync directly when you connect your iPhone to 
 your Mac.
 I sync my contacts when I connect my iPhone to my Mac, but I sync calendars 
 via iCloud so that my husband and I can share them and keep track of 
 appointments.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 20:43, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just noticed that there are some discrepancies in my contact lists between 
 my Mac and my iPhone.  I remember that the whole syncing thing changed a 
 year or so ago, but don't remember what the deal is currently.  Is there any 
 way to get them synced?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
can i play apple music on macbook?
 On 01 Jul 2015, at 2:46 pm, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 The same thing happens with SiriusXM.  I guess it's their way to make sure 
 you don't just leave it streaming if no one's listening.  But I agree, it is 
 annoying.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
 because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
 long I listen to it.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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Note about the new Update.

2015-07-01 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
One thing i note with this new update is that it takes a bit longer before vo 
comes up talking.
Not a big deal, just a notice.
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Good thing I have a 5 gb data plan then, although I don't ever use it up in one 
month. I have Wifi most of the time. And about the infinite skips thing, I'm 
sure that the people that want to use Apple music after the free trial without 
paying for it will probably have a limit to the number of skips they can use. 
Also, I thought iTunes wasn't capable of using it yet. If this is wrong, how 
would I use it on the Mac?

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I had some issues getting custom made Apple Music tracks added to playlists 
 to sync from my IPhone across to ITunes on the mac, but that's really the 
 only quirk I've found.  Actually, it started working after a while.  I think 
 it's server load.  The one thing though I had to do is, I can't find a way to 
 manually resync playlists which have songs from Apple Music not in my local 
 library, nor in the cloud, that I'm only streaming.  So, what I had to do is, 
 after adding them on I O S, as I can't find a way to go to the For you 
 section on the mac, then add something to a playlist.  But on I O S, if I do 
 it, then the only way I so far have been successful even 3/4 of the time 
 only, is to command+Q, and quit ITunes, then come back in, and then it'll 
 update.
 
 I suspect either 1, it's server load, or 2, it would! auto-refresh, but only 
 automatically after X amount of time.  God knows what that amount would be. I 
 know it can't be changed, as if it could, I would a seen the option by now, 
 as thorough as I was looking at things, trust me!  I'd say logically though, 
 I'd think maybe once an hour.  If you want sooner, you gotta restart ITunes 
 to force it.  Realize what I am saying isn't necessarily fact.  It's only 
 what my observation is so far, so people like Shaf etc. don't come down my 
 throat.  I'm only telling you what I've so far seen.  If you think you know 
 better, then by all means, correct me.  Do tell, as I'd be curious.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
 standpoint
 
 
 I created a custom station on my old iPhone for S, and the same one showed up 
 when I signed into my iPhone 5s. So it seems that custom stations are moving 
 across just fine. I don't yet have the new iTunes on my Mac. And I haven't 
 tried all the fancy stuff you're talking about otherwise, but custom stations 
 are sinking or whatever you call it
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Blee Blat bleeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem to 
 sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. I 
 have a mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually 
 having wifi handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can figure 
 out how to add whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks like this 
 could replace several music apps once I can figure out how to manage 
 playlists and stations and things across devices. Certainly impressed with 
 sound quality and the fact that it has found everything I could possibly 
 want to listen to. Now I just need to figure out how to make custom 
 playlists and stations so I can do weird things like mix Accept albums with 
 Bach and  bagpipe music and have it remember what I was playing  when I 
 switch from one device to another because I bounce around a lot. But 
 certainly this might save me from having to keep track of large collection 
 of stuff once I can figure out the complexity! I certainly don't have enough 
 disk space or time to go and download all the stuff I would listen to if it 
 was handy to stream so I think this looks very good. Big fat warning to 
 anyone with a data cap though this will eat it for lunch since 256kbps  is 
 what it streams at. I don't know if it has a lower bandwidth option so keep 
 the wifi handy!
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as well. 
And vice versa.


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 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you have 
 the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, what is the 
 cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
 iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
 music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
 bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
 having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
 being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
 loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
 wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
 last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes 
 match library. I thought, cool! However, when I go to download one of 
 those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the 
 iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks 
 not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states and the 
 fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. Apple 
 said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it anyway 
 when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if anyone 
else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip hop station 
that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to stream so don't 
know why this is happening. Any suggestions?

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
And it looks like it does apply to family member(s) as well so long as you 
the organizer signed up to the family plan.


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 wrote:
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
 today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
 multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
 doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
 signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
 automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
 someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
 it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
 already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also be 
 the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is blowing me 
 away.
 
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you have the 
one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, what is the cost 
of adding Apple Music?
thanks,
Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it before 
 you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people advocated 
 actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the computer after 
 making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality versions it matched. 
 The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style iTunes purchases, except 
 you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
 music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
 bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
 having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently being 
 able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a loophole in 
 this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something wrong. I used to 
 subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse last fibruary. 
 Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old itunes match library. 
 I thought, cool! However, when I go to download one of those old tracks, I 
 get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on the iOS devices. so, if you 
 let your itunes match lapse, are those old tracks not available any more, in 
 spite of, what, I think, apple states and the fact that I can still see them, 
 which is a bit misleading I think. Apple said that itunes match wasn't 
 required, that you'd essentally get it anyway when you subscribed to apple 
 music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Chris. Yeah, Beats 1 is pretty much all rock, hip hop, techno and maybe some 
R  B tracks. The thing I like about it is unlike most FM radio stations, 
there's no real rotation so that means there's no repetition whatsoever. But if 
you're not into any of these genres I listed above, then no, it's not for you.

Shawn
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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
 although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good in 
 your ipinion?
 
 Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, probably 
 not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty good?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm liking 
 Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the United 
 States. The Beats1 isn't available in your country message I get sometimes 
 when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets fixed soon. The state 
 of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be some kind of intermittent 
 bug, or has to do with wifi calling.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
 today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
 multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
 doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
 signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
 automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
 someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
 and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
 I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
 also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
 blowing me away.
 
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match subscription, 
so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music subscription.  
thanks, Chris.
Cheers,
Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as 
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you have 
 the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both, what is 
 the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it 
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people 
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the 
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality 
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old style 
 iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone' 
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into the 
 music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the music you 
 bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition to 
 having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also, apparently 
 being able to have your entire icloud music library too. I've found a 
 loophole in this, and wanna know if it's me, or if I'm doing something 
 wrong. I used to subscribe to itunes match, but let the subspription lapse 
 last fibruary. Thouugh, when I logged into itunes today, I saw my old 
 itunes match library. I thought, cool! However, when I go to download one 
 of those old tracks, I get an error 8003 code on the mac, and nothing on 
 the iOS devices. so, if you let your itunes match lapse, are those old 
 tracks not available any more, in spite of, what, I think, apple states and 
 the fact that I can still see them, which is a bit misleading I think. 
 Apple said that itunes match wasn't required, that you'd essentally get it 
 anyway when you subscribed to apple music. any ideas?  thanks!
 
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
Since us in the UK never head Beats Music, shame on you, lol, I understand both 
are the same.


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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 02:13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's the difference now between Apple music and Beats music?  I didn't know 
 a change was made.
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name to 
 Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I actually 
 listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised and 
 disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the radio 
 section so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 80s. If 
 there is one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
 practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, and 
 let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats 
 Music, Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
  
 And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
  
 I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs some 
 help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would be an 
 honor! to help you out with it.
  
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
How crap. Lol! No repetitions so far with Apple Music.


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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 01:52, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 Yeah, with Spotify, you have to keep on skipping because it repeats as often, 
 if not more, than FM radio at times.
 
 - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
 standpoint
 
 
 Hi Chris. Same here. I pretty much got rid of both Spotify and Jango when 
 Apple Music came out today. I hope though, and this really pissed me off with 
 Spotify, when you ban a song, it STAYS banned. Meaning with Spotify, I'd ban 
 a song, and then after a while, I find that it's playing again.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:00 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from a 
 VoiceOver user's standpoint.
 Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
 Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
 appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
 Spotify.
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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same now 
with Apple Music, but should imagine so.


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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip hop 
 station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to stream 
 so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
long I listen to it.

Shawn
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 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
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 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
Connect is a blog platform for artists and their fans connecting to each other, 
hence connect. I haven't really explored it to its fullest, but it looks like 
you double tap on an artist's post to see not only their post but any likes or 
comments posted. There is also a text field to submit your comment. If you have 
concerns over a post or comment(s), you can report your concerns to Apple. I'm 
actually surprised, in a good way of course, of how accessible it is. Of 
course, we won't be able to see their photos or videos, apart from the audio 
portion of course, but yes. That's accessible too, and, like I said, am 
pleasantly surprised of how they have done it.


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 wrote:
 
 Chris, can you or someone else kind of explain what the connect feature does?
 
 Chris.
 
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 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:00 PM
 Subject: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
 standpoint
 
 
 Hi all
 Let me share with you my thoughts so far with the Apple Music service from a 
 VoiceOver user's standpoint.
 Let me tell you, Apple Music is, absolutely, sweet, with VoiceOver. 
 Everything I have done so far works perfectly. Even the connect feature 
 appears to be working sweet. Darn impressed and it's goodbye from me to 
 Spotify.
 Short, but to the point and I hope you feel the same.
 
 
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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Sadam Ahmed
No. You need 8.4 or later. 

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 On 2 Jul 2015, at 12:05 pm, Stephanie natureloving...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Will my ipod touch running ios 6 run every thing I purchased with apple music?
 Steph
 
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 From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 2:10 am
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 
 Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
 load to iTunes
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my 
 LPS, if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from 
 iMatch and i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for 
 your advice. 
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being 
 one of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all 
 the music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
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 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
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 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
 style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
 viph...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line 
 today
 
 If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
 the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
 music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
 to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
 apparently being able to have your entire icloud 

satisfied with the new garageband

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater
Hi all. The new garageband works pretty well, with what I do anyways. The new 
automated drummers work well too, and I just figured out how to use 
arpeggiators well too. Now I have to figure out how everyone makes the  vocal 
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Downloading from Apple Music library

2015-07-01 Thread Chris

Hi all
After playing with the desktop version of the service, located inside 
iTunes 12.2 and later, for both Windows and Mac, I can confirm that each 
and every song you download from the Apple Music library, not your 
iCloud Music Library, has integrated copy protection. This can be 
observed by a change in the filename extention which we will all have to 
get used to; M4P. This is an iTunes protected file, hence the p, and 
can even consist of music videos, the file that is. So please, don't try 
to share what you download, legal or otherwise, as it's not going to 
work. Also, anything you download from the Apple Music library will 
refuse to play once the trial or subscription expires, whatever comes 
first. They will play again when you subscribe or re-subscribe whatever 
is the case. And how do I know? Once you download from the Apple Music 
library, it will be located in the following paths:

Windows: /users/username/music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Apple Music.
Mac: ~/music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Apple Music.
Apple has definitely gone about this the right way, and so they should 
since they've been dealing with music since the introduction of the iPod 
back in 2001.


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Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Stephanie
Hi all,
Will my ipod touch running ios 6 run every thing I purchased with apple music?
Steph

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 2:10 am
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library



 Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
 load to iTunes
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my 
 LPS, if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch 
 and i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your 
 advice. 
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  You wrote:
  
  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
  
  Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being 
  one of 'em!
  
  Chris.
  
  - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
  
  
  So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
  purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
  that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
  thanks,
  Donna
  On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
  copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all 
  the music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
  
  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
  Gilland
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
  
  Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
  please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
  perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
  
  Chris.
  
  - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
  
  
  Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
  subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
  subscription.  thanks, Chris.
  Cheers,
  Donna
  On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
  challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
  
  It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
  well. And vice versa.
  
  
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  On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
  
  So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
  have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
  what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
  thanks,
  Donna
  On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
  
  So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
  before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
  advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
  computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
  versions it matched. The beats stuff is probably similar to the old
  style iTunes purchases, except you can't burn them.
  
  - Original Message - From: george b gbma...@gmail.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; 'Viphone'
  viph...@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:42 PM
  Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library
  
  
  Here is what I was told dby a apple tech on the accessibility line 
  today
  
  If you do not have iMatch all your music you have on iTunes goes into
  the music cloud as beats apple music. Now when this happens all the
  music you bought became non burnable and non copy able for others.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 19:14
  To: Viphone
  Subject: Apple music and your iCloud music library
  
  One of the things that  Apple music touts is the ability to in addition
  to having the huge iTunes music catalog at your disposal, also,
  apparently being able to have your entire icloud music library too. 
  I've
  

Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Brent Harding
Nope, I don't think it stores anything. I think they just mark what you have 
access to in their system, and retrieve it on demand when you use it.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eileen Scrivani 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


  I have a question about signing up for the new Apple Music.  I have to say I 
am tempted.  However, I have not signed up for an I-Cloud account and don’t 
want to have to pay for one.  I haven’t intentionally stored anything on the 
bit of free storage allowed with I-Cloud either.  So with Apple music, is it 
mandatory to also get a paid I-Cloud account?  I might be willing to go for $10 
a month for the music, but don’t want the extra expense of $20 if I have to 
additionally pay for storage. Just wondering how it is handled.  

  Thanks.

  Eileen


  From: george b 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:58 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

  Apple music is free for the first 90 days then you have to pay 

  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 14:14
  To: Macvisionaries
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

  I am just in the middle of downloading Apple Music etc but today, I read an 
article from Mac rumours or whatever it is called.  It stated that you have to 
pay for Apple Music and ICloud match as they both compliment each other.  
However some on this list say that if you for instance have I Cloud Match then 
Apple Music is free.  Is this the case then, as the article said that you had 
to pay for both.

  Kawal.
  On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

  Hello,

  I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my 
LPS, if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch 
and i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your 
advice. 

  Eileen

  Sent from my iPhone

   On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   You wrote:
   
   Even for music I legitimately purchased?
   
   Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being 
one of 'em!
   
   Chris.
   
   - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
   Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
   
   
   So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, that 
will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
   thanks,
   Donna
   On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
   
   -Original Message-
   From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
   Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
   
   Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
   please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
   perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
   
   Chris.
   
   - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
   Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
   
   
   Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
   subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
   subscription.  thanks, Chris.
   Cheers,
   Donna
   On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
   challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
   
   It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
   well. And vice versa.
   
   
   Visit my groups:
   
   The Chat Zone
   the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
   The Tech Zone
   the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
   Apple Music
   apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
   
   
   
   
   
   On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
   
   So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if 

Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Chris
You don't need to pay for an iCloud account. You get 5 GB free, and 
music doesn't count towards your storage limit.


On 01/07/2015 23:42, Eileen Scrivani wrote:

I have a question about signing up for the new Apple Music.  I have to say I am 
tempted.  However, I have not signed up for an I-Cloud account and don’t want 
to have to pay for one.  I haven’t intentionally stored anything on the bit of 
free storage allowed with I-Cloud either.  So with Apple music, is it mandatory 
to also get a paid I-Cloud account?  I might be willing to go for $10 a month 
for the music, but don’t want the extra expense of $20 if I have to 
additionally pay for storage. Just wondering how it is handled.

Thanks.

Eileen


From: george b
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Apple music is free for the first 90 days then you have to pay

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 14:14
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

I am just in the middle of downloading Apple Music etc but today, I read an 
article from Mac rumours or whatever it is called.  It stated that you have to 
pay for Apple Music and ICloud match as they both compliment each other.  
However some on this list say that if you for instance have I Cloud Match then 
Apple Music is free.  Is this the case then, as the article said that you had 
to pay for both.

Kawal.
On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

You wrote:

Even for music I legitimately purchased?

Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one of 
'em!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library



So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, that 
will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
thanks,
Donna

On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, copy 
music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the music you 
purchessed will be able to be burned and copied

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
perplexed, not to mention intrigued.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library


Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
subscription.  thanks, Chris.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
well. And vice versa.


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On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
thanks,
Donna

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
computer after making a 

Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

2015-07-01 Thread Eileen Scrivani
I have a question about signing up for the new Apple Music.  I have to say I am 
tempted.  However, I have not signed up for an I-Cloud account and don’t want 
to have to pay for one.  I haven’t intentionally stored anything on the bit of 
free storage allowed with I-Cloud either.  So with Apple music, is it mandatory 
to also get a paid I-Cloud account?  I might be willing to go for $10 a month 
for the music, but don’t want the extra expense of $20 if I have to 
additionally pay for storage. Just wondering how it is handled.  

Thanks.

Eileen


From: george b 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Apple music is free for the first 90 days then you have to pay 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 14:14
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

I am just in the middle of downloading Apple Music etc but today, I read an 
article from Mac rumours or whatever it is called.  It stated that you have to 
pay for Apple Music and ICloud match as they both compliment each other.  
However some on this list say that if you for instance have I Cloud Match then 
Apple Music is free.  Is this the case then, as the article said that you had 
to pay for both.

Kawal.
On 1 Jul 2015, at 17:10, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes everything you paid for or someone els paid for like giving you a c d to 
load to iTunes

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of eileen.misr...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 09:06
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library

Hello,

I'm going to add a twist to this thread. Before embarking on digitizing my LPS, 
if I choose to purchase iMatch, will those songs be replaced from iMatch and 
i'll be able to download where I want and burn them? Thanks for your advice. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 You wrote:
 
 Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 
 Um, if so, that's gonna surely piss a lotta people off!  LOL!  Me, being one 
 of 'em!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 So, right now I only have Apple Match.  As I understand it, any music I've 
 purchased I can burn to a CD.  If I add Apple Music, but get rid of Match, 
 that will no longer be the case?  Even for music I legitimately purchased?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:59 AM, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you only have apple music, you will not be able to burn music to c d, 
 copy music and give to others.  If you have apple music and iMatch all the 
 music you purchessed will be able to be burned and copied
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
 Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 04:12
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 Yeah Donna, would you please?  If you find out what the deal is, would you
 please write us all, and kindly clarify?  Cause like you, I'm sort a
 perplexed, not to mention intrigued.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Apple music and your iCloud music library
 
 
 Hmm.  Maybe I just need to call Apple.  I just renewed my Match
 subscription, so I wonder if that can be credited toward an Apple Music
 subscription.  thanks, Chris.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:23 AM, christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It appears if you pay for Apple Music, you won't need to pay for Match as
 well. And vice versa.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:22, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 So I'm confused.  Do you pay for both match and Apple Music, or if you
 have the one, do you also get the other?  If you have to pay for both,
 what is the cost of adding Apple Music?
 thanks,
 Donna
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:
 
 So, if you get Match, it would be DRM-free, as long as you download it
 before you cancel your subscription. I thought back when that people
 advocated actually uploading the stuff into match, removing it from the
 computer after making a backup, and redownloading the higher quality
 versions it matched. The beats 

Re: apple care

2015-07-01 Thread Grant
AppleCare for a Mac is like an extended warranty, to the best of my knowledge. 
Accidental damage like this surely would not be covered. Your best bet would be 
to call apple or visit the genius bar to inquire what you're options are. You 
should discontinued use of the computer until you decide what to do, to avoid 
further damage.

Grant

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 Hey everyone. Hopefully someone can answer my question. I'm so frustrated 
 right now that I can't think straight.
 
 Is there a place where I can go see if my mac is covered under apple care if 
 it's killed by water?
 
 My poor mac was just drowned in rain thanks to mother nature and soaking 
 pretty much everything with blowing wind and loads of rain while I was out 
 for lunch.
 
 Sadly I can't call apple to ask them due to the fact it's a holiday here in 
 Canada, grrr!!
 
 
 May and LD Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
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Re: OK, it's official! I'm in blyss heaven! with Apple Music!

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi. Yes you can if you update to iTunes 12.2.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 can i play bits music on my mac book?
 On 01 Jul 2015, at 9:31 am, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Since us in the UK never head Beats Music, shame on you, lol, I understand 
 both are the same.
 
 
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 02:13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's the difference now between Apple music and Beats music?  I didn't 
 know a change was made.
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hey Chris. Didn't Apple buy out Beats Music and therefore change the name 
 to Apple Music? In any event, I'm pretty happy with Apple Music. I 
 actually listened to Beats 1 practically when it launched. I'm surprised 
 and disappointed, however, that it doesn't have a decades area in the 
 radio section so I could listen to music from a particular decade like the 
 80s. If there is one though, feel free to point me in the right direction. 
 Thanks.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wanted to see what you guys thought of Apple music so far!  I've been 
 practically all day listenning to things over here during the workday, 
 and let me tell you, I am blown away!  This puts Pandora, Spottify, Beats 
 Music, Slacker, all that stuff to bloody freaking shame!
 
 And, further, the Siri integration with Apple Music is breathtaking!
 
 I'm getting quite confident with using it on I O S, so if anyone needs 
 some help getting it up and running, shoot me back a reply, and it would 
 be an honor! to help you out with it.
 
 Chris.
 
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Weird,

I don't doubt you guys, please know that, but that's just strange!  I'm 
using an ATT 128GB IPhone 6+, and like I said, from about 1 yesterday 
afternoon until now, just call it, 3 in the morning nearly, I've not seen it 
go down but maybe to around 59 percent or so, and that's with no attempt yet 
to charge from a 100% battery kickoff at 1300 hours yesterday.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


I was playing with it awhile today, and got down to 55 percent. I think 
they want you to have a watch or something to use as a Siri remote to be 
able to keep the phone on the charger. Even with Spotify, and I usually 
airplay it through my old inactive 4S, the battery is done with from full 
in 2 hours or less, but that thing isn't anywhere near new any more.


- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that 
is blowing me away.



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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
Guys,
Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, and, 
on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual general 
usage of the device.


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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
 ago, and now it just said 60 percent.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
 today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
 multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
 doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd already 
 signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They just 
 automatically logged him in.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
 someone else on your plan did it.
 
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service
 
 
 Hi all
 I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, and 
 it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it I'm 
 already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should also 
 be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
 blowing me away.
 
 
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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, is it all techno/hip hop/rappy/poppy stuff though?  If so, then I 
really am not that interested.  I'm more an 
oldies/country/folk/gospel/bluegrass/children's music as a last resort guyh.


IE:  Randy Travis, Vince Gill, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Beach Boys, Peter Paul 
and Mary, Iris Dement, Alison Krauss, the Krabb Family, The Booth Brothers, 
the Stanley Brothers, Alan Jackson, maybe some more really mellow stuff by 
Brooks and Dunn, Patty Loveless, Reba, maybe Bette Middler, Tommy Page, 
Roxette, James Taylor, kind a stuff like that.  You get the idea.  Maybe 
John Denver.  I'm just not sure how much Beats1 would cator to that type 
style.My best friend calls it old fart music!  The bad thing's he's my age! 
33 years old!  So there!  Pull my finger!  Oh wait...  Seriously though, to 
you think I should check it out, or do you agree, this probably ain't gonna 
be my cup a tea.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


I thought it was pretty good. I'm not much into the techno stuff, or that 
one exclusive song they played twice in a row, but for the hour or so I 
listened, it was good. It's definitely a different style with the little 
sounders mixed into the songs, but a live station wasn't meant to be 
straight music and jingles either. It's definitely something to take a 
listen to.


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Yeah, I'm not real sure.  I actually haven't listened to the station yet, 
although I plan to soon.  How's the content variety?  Is it pretty good 
in your ipinion?


Granted, I dono what you like or if your taste is similar to mine, 
probably not, but I mean, just in general, do you find it to be pretty 
good?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


That's nice. You don't need any kind of restore purchases thing. I'm 
liking Beats 1 too, if it will consistently locate me properly in the 
United States. The Beats1 isn't available in your country message I 
get sometimes when using it with Siri is annoying. I hope that gets 
fixed soon. The state of Wisconsin isn't near any border, so it must be 
some kind of intermittent bug, or has to do with wifi calling.



- Original Message - 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did. 
He has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying 
is, after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered 
that he'd already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to 
sign up. They just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music 
app, and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to 
tell it I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, 
this should also be the case for the other family members. This is the 
latest that is blowing me away.



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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's standpoint

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I had some issues getting custom made Apple Music tracks added to playlists 
to sync from my IPhone across to ITunes on the mac, but that's really the 
only quirk I've found.  Actually, it started working after a while.  I think 
it's server load.  The one thing though I had to do is, I can't find a way 
to manually resync playlists which have songs from Apple Music not in my 
local library, nor in the cloud, that I'm only streaming.  So, what I had to 
do is, after adding them on I O S, as I can't find a way to go to the For 
you section on the mac, then add something to a playlist.  But on I O S, if 
I do it, then the only way I so far have been successful even 3/4 of the 
time only, is to command+Q, and quit ITunes, then come back in, and then 
it'll update.


I suspect either 1, it's server load, or 2, it would! auto-refresh, but only 
automatically after X amount of time.  God knows what that amount would be. 
I know it can't be changed, as if it could, I would a seen the option by 
now, as thorough as I was looking at things, trust me!  I'd say logically 
though, I'd think maybe once an hour.  If you want sooner, you gotta restart 
ITunes to force it.  Realize what I am saying isn't necessarily fact.  It's 
only what my observation is so far, so people like Shaf etc. don't come down 
my throat.  I'm only telling you what I've so far seen.  If you think you 
know better, then by all means, correct me.  Do tell, as I'd be curious.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the Apple Music service from a VoiceOver user's 
standpoint



I created a custom station on my old iPhone for S, and the same one showed 
up when I signed into my iPhone 5s. So it seems that custom stations are 
moving across just fine. I don't yet have the new iTunes on my Mac. And I 
haven't tried all the fancy stuff you're talking about otherwise, but custom 
stations are sinking or whatever you call it


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Blee Blat bleeb...@gmail.com wrote:

The only thing I've not been able to get to work is that it doesn't seem 
to sync created stations and music listening preferences  across devices. 
I have a mac and iphone that I've signed into here and since I'm usually 
having wifi handy I wouldn't mind paying for this especially if I can 
figure out how to add whole albums for streaming to my library. It looks 
like this could replace several music apps once I can figure out how to 
manage playlists and stations and things across devices. Certainly 
impressed with sound quality and the fact that it has found everything I 
could possibly want to listen to. Now I just need to figure out how to 
make custom playlists and stations so I can do weird things like mix 
Accept albums with Bach and  bagpipe music and have it remember what I was 
playing  when I switch from one device to another because I bounce around 
a lot. But certainly this might save me from having to keep track of large 
collection of stuff once I can figure out the complexity! I certainly 
don't have enough disk space or time to go and download all the stuff I 
would listen to if it was handy to stream so I think this looks very good. 
Big fat warning to anyone with a data cap though this will eat it for 
lunch since 256kbps  is what it streams at. I don't know if it has a lower 
bandwidth option so keep the wifi handy!


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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Uh, I think that's more than something with Apple Music.  I've lasted all 
day from about 1PM yesterday to now at 2:37AM and I still only now have 
about 65 percent.  What I O S device are you using?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 minutes 
ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both talked 
today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He has 
multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, after 
doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, unless 
someone else on your plan did it.


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challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that is 
blowing me away.



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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Just keep loving and disliking tracks.  It'll get to know you trust me. 
It's only been less than 24 hours, and this thing's already over here really 
starting to get a good idea with me.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Yup I dipped into the extra battery too. I was pretty sure the service would 
be pretty crummy but it's actually really good I just don't yet know how to 
make it fit my music listening habits since I'm used to having local copies 
of everything because streaming anything I might want hasn't been handy in 
decent quality before now.


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Re: os 10.10.4 is here

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Hey, I hear ya!  It's all good, my friend.  No harm done.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



Chris,
   Thanks and no worries. Those kinds of days get us all.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/30/2015 7:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Sorry, Shaf's message really had pissed me off, and I read his message
about me being a spammer right before seeing and responding to your's,
so needless to say, I was still pretty irked.  I apologize.  I didn't
mean to take it out on you.  It just came across like you thought maybe
I gave misinformation about it not being available initially.

Anyway, sorry for snapping.  Yeah, it has actually been a somewhat
stressful day.  I have a lot on my mind right now with major work
changes etc.  I again didn't mean to come down on ya.  Forgive me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Having a bad day Chris? It jsut happened that while I was
downloading the updates that I read your message. Take a chill pill
and enjoy Apple Music. (smiles)

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On 6/30/2015 4:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Look'at! Dude?

When I wrote that message, it may not have been available quite yet!
Give me a break for flipping sake!  It's possible that since I wrote
that message, Apple pushed the update.

I only am telling you what Apple Accessibility told me initially when I
called.  Don't be so chastizing!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: E.T. ancient.ali...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: os 10.10.4 is here



   Like today? Its downloading at this moment.

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Don't get too excited though.  It doesn't yet have Apple Music.
That's
only available as of today on I O S, although, I suspect it will be
really really really really soon when ITunes 12.2 comes out, which
will
have the integration.  Oh my God I can't wait!

Chris.

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Subject: os 10.10.4 is here



just want to to shout out that the 10.10.4 is ready to update.

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Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service

2015-07-01 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Neither is mine, and yes, I do lock my screen.

If nothing else, turn on your screen curtain, and also set your brightness 
on top of that, to 0%.


That should help.

Chris.

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To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Guys,
Are you locking the screen once you're streaming? I do this all the time, 
and, on my iPad at least, the battery isn't sucking apart from the usual 
general usage of the device.



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On 1 Jul 2015, at 05:00, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:

Holy crap, this really does eat up the battery! I was at 90% just 15 
minutes ago, and now it just said 60 percent.


Sent from my iPhone

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clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, no no.   you're confused.  I only know this as Chris and I both 
talked today via e-mail off list quite a bit, so I know what he did.  He 
has multiple I O S devices.  He signed up on one.  What he's saying is, 
after doing so on that one device, his other devices remembered that he'd 
already signed up, therefore they didn't ask him again to sign up.  They 
just automatically logged him in.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: More coolness with the Apple Music service


How did you end up joining it? I had to explicitly join to get in, 
unless someone else on your plan did it.


- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: macvisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: More coolness with the Apple Music service


Hi all
I have just updated to iOS 8.4 on my iPhone 4s. Launched the Music app, 
and it simply logged me into the service; I didn't even need to tell it 
I'm already a member. Since I signed up for the family plan, this should 
also be the case for the other family members. This is the latest that 
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Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music

2015-07-01 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well, you can't tap on the icon when you're sleeping, can you? You might think 
this weird but I like sleeping with music on and I wake up in the middle of the 
night kinda panicking if there's no music. But I think I may have found a work 
around to this problem which I'll post in another thread after I go through 
these hundreds of emails. Lol.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



 On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Dude, there's not!  Just restart it.  I know it's a little inconvenient, but 
 it's just one icon you gotta double tap to start playing again.  OK, granted, 
 if you're at work and cant easily get to the device to do that, then? I could 
 see your annoyance, but honestly I mean well when I say this, so please don't 
 take this rudely, but am I just not understanding your lifestyle?  Is it 
 really that hard to just hit one button, and go on?  It's not like you're 
 having to do this after every single song.
 
 Maybe I'm just too willing to put up with things, but honestly, that wouldn't 
 really bother me too bad.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Something Disconcerting About Apple Music
 
 
 Well that's stupid. If I'm gonna be paying $10 a month which I probably will 
 because this service is fricking awesome, there shouldn't be a limit to how 
 long I listen to it.
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:37 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 iTunes Radio did this I believe. It would stop playing after two hours of 
 inactivity and ask if you were still listening. Not sure if it is the same 
 now with Apple Music, but should imagine so.
 
 
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 Apple Music
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 On 1 Jul 2015, at 08:35, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I just found something disconcerting about Apple Music. I've been 
 listening to Beats 1 for the past couple of hours and out of no where the 
 stream cuts out. I don't know if that's a bug or if that's something I can 
 correct in settings but just thought I would get it out there to see if 
 anyone else experiences this. I also found another radio station, the hip 
 hop station that Apple created also does this as well. I'm using Wifi to 
 stream so don't know why this is happening. Any suggestions?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
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