Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

[Faisal ali]

I am not.
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> And you're not on the public, nor private beta,  are you?
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Faisal ali 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:03 AM
>> Subject: RE: interesting behaviour in mac mail
>> 
>> I’m running the latest build of el capitan and I’m using the modern view.
>> I’m thinking removing the account and re-ading might be worth trying but 
>> want to try everything else first.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: November-25-15 7:57 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail
>>  
>> I'm not convinced that it's a power issue.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: joseph hudson 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail
>>>  
>>> Wow, how interesting. Have you ever tried rebuilding your mailboxes or 
>>> taking your account off-line and then bringing it back? Or even simply 
>>> removing the account and then re-adding it back? This may fix the issue.
>>> Joseph Hudson 
>>> Email
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>> I device support
>>> Telephone
>>> 2543007667
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>>>  
>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>>>  
 On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Faisal ali > wrote:
  
 This happens when it is unplugged and plugged in.
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:10 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
>  
> Is your Mac plugged in when this happens? Because if not, it could 
> possibly be a battery issue. I notice my mail those busy when my 
> batteries about to die.
> Joseph Hudson 
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
> I device support
> Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
> 
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>  
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>  
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Faisal ali > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello everyone,
>> I’m noticing something quite strange. In one of my accounts, I have a 
>> thread with 16 messages. However, when I get to this thread in my list 
>> of messages, mail becomes busy. Even with my arrowing past the inbox 
>> with this thread at the top of my messages table mail becomes busy. I’ve 
>> never noticed it before with larger threads. Anyone know why this is 
>> happening? I’m running a mac with 16 gigs of ram so surely its not my 
>> computer not having enough resources.
>> 
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

What is the website where I can take a look at this?  Thanks,
Brian
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:56 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Louis Braille Translator
> 
> 
>   I have looked at it but have not yet tried embossing with this software 
> which is free by the way.
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> On 11/25/2015 8:45 AM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> There sure was.  I don’t think there is anything now though.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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>>> Hello all,
>>> Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
>>> Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
>>> Brian   
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

There sure was.  I don’t think there is anything now though.


> On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
> Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
> Brian 
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[E.T.]

   Louis Braille Translator


   I have looked at it but have not yet tried embossing with this 
software which is free by the way.


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On 11/25/2015 8:45 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

There sure was.  I don’t think there is anything now though.



On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:

Hello all,
Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
Brian   

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Devin Prater]

Shoot, no one wants to pay for another $800 screen reader that doesn't offer 
much that NVDA has.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
> does Cobra compare to NVDA?
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>> On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> You haven’t tested cobra yet?
>> That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
>> They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
>> /A
>>> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
>>> utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
>>> 
>>> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
>>> 
>>> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
>>> getting around to this in 2016.14).
>>> 
>>> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
>>> closely followed by Window-Eyes.
>>> 
>>> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
>>> least since the dark days of iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough 
>>> to get through school is very snappy.
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
>>> 
>>> College of Business
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
 On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't 
 much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even 
 use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the 
> default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and 
> couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that 
> pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination for 
> either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
> 
> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
> combination brings focus to the next page.
> 
> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[E.T.]

   The link was in my message.

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On 11/25/2015 9:33 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:

What is the website where I can take a look at this?  Thanks,
Brian

On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:56 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Louis Braille Translator


   I have looked at it but have not yet tried embossing with this software 
which is free by the way.

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On 11/25/2015 8:45 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

There sure was.  I don’t think there is anything now though.



On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:

Hello all,
Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
Brian   

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Re: Bose Soundlink II speaker firmware update using the Mac.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Thanks so much Andrew. 

Have submitted a note to Bose. 

Now it remains to be seen. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 25 Nov 2015, at 2:42 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
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> Hi Sadam,
> 
> I live in the UK.  I went onto their website, www.bose.com (which I think is 
> their worldwide website), chose the country, UK in my case, and then clicked 
> on support link, then contact us link, and then chose e-mail, and on this 
> page finally I was able to find an e-mail form which I filled up.  I stated 
> my problems and submitted it and as a result got first a standard 
> confirmation and then a technical support representative wrote to me.  It's 
> long winded but that's the only way I was able to bring the accessibility 
> problems to their attention.  The e-mail form is very detailed.  they want 
> lots of details about you and many of the fields are mandatory marked with 
> asterisk.  There are a couple of awkward radio buttons to choose from 
> regarding how you might or not to be sent info  and then 'submit' button 
> which eluded me for a while. I had to use a combination of tab or item 
> chooser menu to find "submit' link.  It's not a button but link so you won't 
> find it by using vo+command+j.  If the form doesn't get sent , it means that 
> you have missed out on a field or it is wrongly filled.  
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 24 Nov 2015, at 12:19, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> 
>> Thanks for reporting back.
>> 
>> Do you have a link to contact technical support?
>> 
>> The website just takes me round and round in circles.
>> 
>> Yours truly,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
>> 
>> College of Business
>> 
>> RMIT University
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2015 1:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>> I've reported the lack of accessibility of Bose SoundLink speaker up for 
>>> the mac to Bose, and the representative who responded to my e-mail has 
>>> promised to relay this to their team.  Please report as well.  The more we 
>>> shout the more likely they are to listen.
>>> 
>>> Feeling defensive after my complaint, he pointed out that their Wave system 
>>> remote control has Braille on it and he also said that their mobile app for 
>>> SoundTouch speaker works with voiceOver.  So do keep writing/eamiling Bose 
>>> about this.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 23 Nov 2015, at 11:14, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Thanks for the update, even if I could figure out what damn buttons to 
 push it wouldn't do any good as the file just doesn't work with any screen 
 reader.
 
 From JAWS, to NVDA, to VoiceOver no results.
 
 Very frustrating.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 College of Business
 
 RMIT University
 
>   On 11/23/2015 9:23 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> The only answer i got was to check the documentation on how to do this.
> On my soundlink mini iii you have to plug a usb device into the speaker 
> with the update on and then hold down some buttons.
> But i really haven’t got much in to this so i don’t know.
> /A
>> On 22 Nov 2015, at 12:51, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> Anders,
>> 
>> If you get any answers I'd appreciate it.
>> 
>> It's not stricktly needed but would be good to have.
>> 
>> The release notes say that the battery life gets a boost.
>> 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> 
>> Yours truly,
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> 
>> College of Business
>> 
>> RMIT University
>> 
>>> On 11/22/15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Sometimes its needed but as someone mentioned its hard to update.
>>> I think i’ll ask this on the pc-audio list to see if someone has any
>>> answers.
>>> /A
 On 21 Nov 2015, at 19:32, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I have a Bose sound link speaker and it is great, although I've never
 bothered with any firmware updates. I don't see the need. It works 
 fine as
 is
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Nov 21, 2015, at 4:20 AM, Sadam Ahmed  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Have purchased the above speaker and whilst I'm very happy when it 
> comes
> to sound struggling to update the firmware of the product.
> 
> Have tried both Windows and Mac and the accessibility of the file 
> leaves
> a lot to be desired.
> 
> If anyone has one of these speakers I'd love pointers on updating
> software?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> College of Business
> 
> RMIT University
> 
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Re: The Mac and Braille

[E.T.]

   Out of my reach. NVDA will have to do.

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On 11/25/2015 1:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I think you can find pricing on the baum USA site. But note, no windows 10 
support at all, and I don't think it supports Windows 8 I might be wrong on 
that one. But for sure, no windows 10.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
does Cobra compare to NVDA?

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On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise a 
HumanWare Brailliant.

Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there getting 
around to this in 2016.14).

As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
closely followed by Window-Eyes.

Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
since the dark days of iOS 7.

At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough to 
get through school is very snappy.

Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University


On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and couldn’t find any 
that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that pressing a router key above 
a space, then pressing the combination for either left or right arrow brings 
the focus to that point.

I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it gets to 
the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down combination brings 
focus to the next page.

I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: The Mac and Braille

[E.T.]

   Right. That was my thinking too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/25/2015 3:27 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Shoot, no one wants to pay for another $800 screen reader that doesn't offer 
much that NVDA has.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
does Cobra compare to NVDA?

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On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise a 
HumanWare Brailliant.

Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there getting 
around to this in 2016.14).

As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
closely followed by Window-Eyes.

Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
since the dark days of iOS 7.

At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough to 
get through school is very snappy.

Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University


On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and couldn’t find any 
that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that pressing a router key above 
a space, then pressing the combination for either left or right arrow brings 
the focus to that point.

I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it gets to 
the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down combination brings 
focus to the next page.

I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Or Dolphin Supernova. The best, most competent braille support I've ever seen 
in a graphical environment, personally.

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Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Infact its really great.
I haven’t used it much so i don’t know for all kinds of settings but the basics 
is accessible.
/A
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 15:09, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Is it all that accessible on I O S though?  I know at least on Android, the 
> accessibility leaves a lot to be desired.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files
> 
> 
> Hi!
> Another thing to point out is that vlc now also can be used on ios devices.
> Search for vlc on appStore.
> /A
>> On 24 Nov 2015, at 21:09, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> You can't really get that much from the mac app store nowadays. I see this 
>> as a definite plus. Google "VLC and you'll see the video LAN site. Its free, 
>> and open source.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this free? 
>>>  I seem to remember it being free.
>>> Brian
 On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
 wrote:
 
 Hello Brian,
 VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
 necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.
 Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.
 
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that 
> lets me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen to, 
> but I didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat without 
> converting them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc files as 
> they are.  Thanks,
> Brian
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RE: oppinions wanted

[Zoe Fiogkos]

If I'm on text edit or pages, arrow down jumps to the extras menu, but if I vo 
arrow down it stays where it should and moves properly.  Chris even if we solve 
this issue, the problem is bigger then that because the mac won't let me whipe 
the drive clean.  That's why the agent made the genious appointment, she's 
concerned why the osx won't reinstall.


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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
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Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

What's the work-around?  that may help us figure this out.

Chris.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


Yes, the agent had me test it on text edit, pages, and we even noticed it 
some times happens in finder that's why she thinks it's a software problem. 
Anyhow we'll see what the boys and girls at the genious bar say.
There is a work around for pages, but the agent admits it should not be 
happening and something odd is going on.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: November-24-15 8:16 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

I don’t use the iWork suite, but it sounds to me like the accessibility 
there is still patchy and that really, if my past experience is anything to 
go by, it isn’t your fault at all.  Other listers are presumably better with 
these tools.

Do you get the same navigational issues in TextEdit?

Hopefully whoever assists you is fully versed in the use of iWork with 
VoiceOver.

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RE: oppinions wanted

[Zoe Fiogkos]

 
Gee Chris thanks that was so easy.  I guess sometimes it’s just knowing where 
to look.  It’s done let’s see if this makes a difference.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: November-25-15 7:35 AM
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OK.  Go to your Voiceover Utility.  VO+F8.  If that doesn't work, then try 
fn+vo+F8.
 
Once the utility is opened, go to your menu bar, with vo+M.  VO+right arrow 
over to the file menu, and VO+Down arrow to open it.
 
Now, vo+Down arrow until you see Reset all Voiceover Settings.
 
VO+Space on this.  You'll now get a message asking if you're sure.  VO+Right 
arrow to the reset button, and hit VO+Space.
 
Beware, if you've made any Voiceover configuration changes, they'll be lost, 
but that said, at least you'll now be back at square 1.  If this fixes your 
problem, then before changing anything in here, let us know what you're 
specifically wanting to change.  This way if something goes awri, we know what 
you've done, and how to help you fix it.
 
Chris.
 
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From: Zoe Fiogkos   
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: oppinions wanted
 
Hi Chris thanks for all the suggestions, she did not have me do that.  How can 
I set voiceover settings to default?
 
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Sent: November-24-15 5:48 PM
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Did you have her reset all Voiceover settings in the Voiceover utility?
 
Chris.
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted
 
Chris, when we spoke last evening, I had her check the quick math. It was 
clearly turned off. Other than that little issue that she's having, her Mac 
seems to be running great.
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On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:
 
Honestly, there is one very obvious thing which I cannot believe no one told 
you to check.  Do you have quick nav enabled?  Press your left and right arrow 
keys together at the same time.  Not with your vo keys held down.  I'm 
literally saying just press left and right arrows together.  You want to be 
sure it says quick nav off.
 
Also, it surprises me to absolutely no end that they didn't have you change out 
the double A batteries in the wireless keyboard that comes with the IMac.  It 
could be that your batteries are nearly dead, and therefore it's producing 
strange results.
 
Also, I'm shocked they didn't have you try plugging in a wired USB keyboard, 
even if it's not an apple based keyboard, and see if your navigation works.
 
If nothing else, they should have offered to try replacing your wireless 
keyboard entirely and send you out a new one, being you said you still have 
Apple Care.
 
The other thing that I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that they didn't have 
you do was to run a disk permissions repair.  I understand now in El Capitan, 
this isn't as easily possible, but you were having this issue before in 
Mavericks, which definitely! you could have ran disk permissions repair, as 
well as an over all disk repair from there.
 
I'm not doubting the things you're telling us, but it just seems unusually 
weird that Apple, especially a senior advisor that works for Accessibility 
wouldn't have had you try these things.  I mean, I'm Apple certified, and 
that's one of the very first things I would have had you check.  Resetting PRam 
with command+Option+P+R is good, but that may a been overkill.  Also, I'm not 
sure if the IMacs would do this, but maybe you may wanna call Accessibility 
back and ask them to help you reset your SMC if that can be done.
 
Chris.
 
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From: Zoe Fiogkos   
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:52 PM
Subject: oppinions wanted
 
Today I was on the phone for over 2 hours with apple accessibility and they 
could not fix my problem, so they have made an appointment with the apple store 
for me on Saturday.  Below in point form is my problem and what apple 
accessibility said and I would like your opinions.
2014 February bought new iMac running mavericks.
Tried using pages and navigation did not work.
Left iMac on desk for over a year.
November 2015 turned on mac same problems.
Asked for help on various lists, answer was basically get training.
Took the suggestion of a friend and backed up and 

Re: The Mac and Braille

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A
> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise 
> a HumanWare Brailliant.
> 
> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
> 
> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
> getting around to this in 2016.14).
> 
> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
> closely followed by Window-Eyes.
> 
> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
> since the dark days of iOS 7.
> 
> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough 
> to get through school is very snappy.
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
> 
> College of Business
> 
> RMIT University
> 
> On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't 
>> much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even 
>> use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
>>> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the 
>>> default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and 
>>> couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that 
>>> pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination for 
>>> either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
>>> 
>>> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
>>> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
>>> combination brings focus to the next page.
>>> 
>>> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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63 unsyncable apps.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I get the error message that some apps could not be installed on my iphone when 
i sync it via Itunes.
I read Marks article about updating apps via Itunes.
This does not work on my mac though.
I try to right click on the app but no go.
I guess i have to go through this on my Iphone.
I wonder why they have removed this nice feature from ios 9?
/A

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Re: oppinions wanted

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, please let us know.  I'd be very very curious.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Zoe Fiogkos 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:25 PM
  Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


   

  Gee Chris thanks that was so easy.  I guess sometimes it’s just knowing where 
to look.  It’s done let’s see if this makes a difference.

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: November-25-15 7:35 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

   

  OK.  Go to your Voiceover Utility.  VO+F8.  If that doesn't work, then try 
fn+vo+F8.

   

  Once the utility is opened, go to your menu bar, with vo+M.  VO+right arrow 
over to the file menu, and VO+Down arrow to open it.

   

  Now, vo+Down arrow until you see Reset all Voiceover Settings.

   

  VO+Space on this.  You'll now get a message asking if you're sure.  VO+Right 
arrow to the reset button, and hit VO+Space.

   

  Beware, if you've made any Voiceover configuration changes, they'll be lost, 
but that said, at least you'll now be back at square 1.  If this fixes your 
problem, then before changing anything in here, let us know what you're 
specifically wanting to change.  This way if something goes awri, we know what 
you've done, and how to help you fix it.

   

  Chris.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Zoe Fiogkos 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:37 PM

Subject: RE: oppinions wanted

 

Hi Chris thanks for all the suggestions, she did not have me do that.  How 
can I set voiceover settings to default?

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: November-24-15 5:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

 

Did you have her reset all Voiceover settings in the Voiceover utility?

 

Chris.

 

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  From: joseph hudson 

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:14 PM

  Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

   

  Chris, when we spoke last evening, I had her check the quick math. It was 
clearly turned off. Other than that little issue that she's having, her Mac 
seems to be running great.

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On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:

 

Honestly, there is one very obvious thing which I cannot believe no one 
told you to check.  Do you have quick nav enabled?  Press your left and right 
arrow keys together at the same time.  Not with your vo keys held down.  I'm 
literally saying just press left and right arrows together.  You want to be 
sure it says quick nav off.

 

Also, it surprises me to absolutely no end that they didn't have you 
change out the double A batteries in the wireless keyboard that comes with the 
IMac.  It could be that your batteries are nearly dead, and therefore it's 
producing strange results.

 

Also, I'm shocked they didn't have you try plugging in a wired USB 
keyboard, even if it's not an apple based keyboard, and see if your navigation 
works.

 

If nothing else, they should have offered to try replacing your 
wireless keyboard entirely and send you out a new one, being you said you still 
have Apple Care.

 

The other thing that I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that they 
didn't have you do was to run a disk permissions repair.  I understand now in 
El Capitan, this isn't as easily possible, but you were having this issue 
before in Mavericks, which definitely! you could have ran disk permissions 
repair, as well as an over all disk repair from there.

 

I'm not doubting the things you're telling us, but it just seems 
unusually weird that Apple, especially a senior advisor that works for 
Accessibility wouldn't have had you try these things.  I mean, I'm Apple 
certified, and that's one of the very first things I would have had you check.  
Resetting PRam with command+Option+P+R is good, but that may a been overkill.  
Also, I'm not sure if the IMacs would do this, but maybe you may wanna call 
Accessibility back and ask them to help you reset your SMC if that can be done.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

  From: Zoe Fiogkos 

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, 

Re: oppinions wanted

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, ok.  I wasn't aware about that with it not reinstalling.  OK, then, 
yeah, you may just need to go in.  I'm sorry I couldn't help more.


The offer still does stand though.  I'm more than happy to help you down the 
road, if you need anything at all.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Zoe Fiogkos" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


If I'm on text edit or pages, arrow down jumps to the extras menu, but if I 
vo arrow down it stays where it should and moves properly.  Chris even if we 
solve this issue, the problem is bigger then that because the mac won't let 
me whipe the drive clean.  That's why the agent made the genious 
appointment, she's concerned why the osx won't reinstall.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: November-25-15 7:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

What's the work-around?  that may help us figure this out.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Zoe Fiogkos" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


Yes, the agent had me test it on text edit, pages, and we even noticed it
some times happens in finder that's why she thinks it's a software problem.
Anyhow we'll see what the boys and girls at the genious bar say.
There is a work around for pages, but the agent admits it should not be
happening and something odd is going on.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Sent: November-24-15 8:16 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

I don’t use the iWork suite, but it sounds to me like the accessibility
there is still patchy and that really, if my past experience is anything to
go by, it isn’t your fault at all.  Other listers are presumably better with
these tools.

Do you get the same navigational issues in TextEdit?

Hopefully whoever assists you is fully versed in the use of iWork with
VoiceOver.

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Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Cool.  Like I said, on Android, it's a nightmare!  I'll most definitely give 
it a try then, since you say it works fairly decently on I O S.  Thanks for 
the heads up.


Chris.

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files


Hi!
Infact its really great.
I haven’t used it much so i don’t know for all kinds of settings but the 
basics is accessible.

/A
On 25 Nov 2015, at 15:09, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Is it all that accessible on I O S though?  I know at least on Android, 
the accessibility leaves a lot to be desired.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files


Hi!
Another thing to point out is that vlc now also can be used on ios 
devices.

Search for vlc on appStore.
/A

On 24 Nov 2015, at 21:09, Devin Prater  wrote:

You can't really get that much from the mac app store nowadays. I see 
this as a definite plus. Google "VLC and you'll see the video LAN site. 
Its free, and open source.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Brian Howerton  
wrote:


Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this 
free?  I seem to remember it being free.

Brian
On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
wrote:


Hello Brian,
VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.

Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.

On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  
wrote:


Hello folks,
The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that 
lets me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen 
to, but I didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat 
without converting them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc 
files as they are.  Thanks,

Brian

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Mary Otten]

I think you can find pricing on the baum USA site. But note, no windows 10 
support at all, and I don't think it supports Windows 8 I might be wrong on 
that one. But for sure, no windows 10.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
> does Cobra compare to NVDA?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> You haven’t tested cobra yet?
>> That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
>> They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
>> /A
>>> On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
>>> utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
>>> 
>>> Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
>>> 
>>> NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
>>> getting around to this in 2016.14).
>>> 
>>> As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
>>> closely followed by Window-Eyes.
>>> 
>>> Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
>>> least since the dark days of iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough 
>>> to get through school is very snappy.
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> Bachelor of Business Information Systems
>>> 
>>> College of Business
>>> 
>>> RMIT University
>>> 
 On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
 No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't 
 much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even 
 use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the 
> default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and 
> couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that 
> pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination for 
> either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
> 
> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
> combination brings focus to the next page.
> 
> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Re: The Mac and Braille

[E.T.]

   Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in 
US$? How does Cobra compare to NVDA?


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
You haven’t tested cobra yet?
That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
/A

On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does utalise a 
HumanWare Brailliant.

Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there getting 
around to this in 2016.14).

As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
closely followed by Window-Eyes.

Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at least 
since the dark days of iOS 7.

At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky enough to 
get through school is very snappy.

Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University

On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and couldn’t find any 
that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that pressing a router key above 
a space, then pressing the combination for either left or right arrow brings 
the focus to that point.

I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it gets to 
the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down combination brings 
focus to the next page.

I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Sadam Ahmed]

>From what I understand it’s predominantly used by blind folk in the EU. 

Not even sure if  it’s distributed in Australia. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Certificate IV International Trade 

College of Business 

RMIT University 

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https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
 




> On 26 Nov 2015, at 10:27 am, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Shoot, no one wants to pay for another $800 screen reader that doesn't offer 
> much that NVDA has.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:46 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Never heard of it either. (smiles)  Do you know how much it is in US$? How 
>> does Cobra compare to NVDA?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2015 10:52 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> You haven’t tested cobra yet?
>>> That windows screenreader really kicks jaws and window-eyes out.
>>> They have the best braille output i’ve ever seen.
>>> /A
 On 25 Nov 2015, at 12:11, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
 
 Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
 utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.
 
 Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.
 
 NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
 getting around to this in 2016.14).
 
 As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille support 
 closely followed by Window-Eyes.
 
 Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
 least since the dark days of iOS 7.
 
 At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky 
 enough to get through school is very snappy.
 
 Sadam Ahmed
 
 Bachelor of Business Information Systems
 
 College of Business
 
 RMIT University
 
> On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
> No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't 
> much better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even 
> use braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to 
>> bring focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the 
>> default action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and 
>> couldn’t find any that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that 
>> pressing a router key above a space, then pressing the combination for 
>> either left or right arrow brings the focus to that point.
>> 
>> I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it 
>> gets to the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down 
>> combination brings focus to the next page.
>> 
>> I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Blee Blat]

Does anyone know which is the most responsive on OS X and iOS respectively and 
which  is better for battery life on both platforms? Is there a way to get data 
on this? I notice that VoiceOver doesn't show up in battery usage. I would pay 
for a software Voice equivalent to DoubleTalk if I could get one. These voices 
particularly Alex sound too human to me. I'd prefer a really fast mechanical 
voice for the times when I don't have braille handy. Does anyone know of such 
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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

I personally haven't encountered this, but Vocalizer does suffer from 
some other issues. I'm sure those will get addressed, as did the issue 
with the quality four years later.


Nicolai

On 11/25/2015 9:42 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:

All,

To those of you running El Capitan have Apple fixed the really 
annoying bug where Vocaliser voices would inexplicably change pitch?


I remember this was a bug they  introduced way back in Lion ( And for 
some reason it was never delt with.)


Thanks for the indulgence.

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please help, my hard drive is being inundated

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, I'm having a very strange problem.  At first I believed it might be my 
4-year-old SSD showing it's age, but I don't know...

Last week my mac reported that I was low on disk space.  So, I moved 20 gb of 
files off into storage drives.  An hour after moving all the files, my mac 
again reported low on disk space, and when I looked, sure enough my disk 
appeard to be full.

Today I moved 11 gb more files off to storage and was breathing easy when my 
mac once again reported my disk to be full and sure enough it seems to be.

I'm not putting any more files onto my disk though since the first time this 
happened.

I've run apples disk checking utilities and they tell me my disk is OK for what 
that's worth.  My disk's size appears normal.  I ran a malware bytes scan and 
it didn't find anything suspicious.

I'd appreciate any suggestions, as if this keeps up, I won't have enough disk 
space left to run an operating system.

Thanks,

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Re: secret folders for passwords

[Chris G]

Hi,
lastpass from www.lastpass.com works well.
Haven't tried the mac client but roboform seems to work well also.Chris 
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1Password is a great choice for a password manager. Windows, OS X
and iOS are supported and kept in sync. If you also use Windows they
offer a package deal and they will throw in a free upgrade for iOS.

This app also supports credit card support so you do not need to
enter your card every time you use it. Lots to look at,  but you get I
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Does anyone know about this?  With the length and alphanumeric  nature
of passwords I have difficulty remembering them.  Something like this
would be very helpful.  There are a couple of youtube videos but I
can’t understand either speaker.  A podcast might work better for me.

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Re: The Mac and Braille

[Sadam Ahmed]

Pretty sure one of the developers Jamie if I remember correctly does 
utalise a HumanWare Brailliant.


Braille on the Mac is horrible and that's giving it a kind word.

NVDA on Windows doesn't offer grade 1 or grade 2 entry. ( Believe there 
getting around to this in 2016.14).


As much as it pains me to admit it JAWS probs has the best braille 
support closely followed by Window-Eyes.


Might  be just me, but it seems iOS support has gotten a lot better at 
least since the dark days of iOS 7.


At least input using the aforementioned Brailliant which I was lucky 
enough to get through school is very snappy.


Sadam Ahmed

Bachelor of Business Information Systems

College of Business

RMIT University

On 11/25/2015 6:55 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

No, braille on the Mac has always been a little bad. VDA on Windows isn't much 
better though, I assure you, since the developers of NVDA don't even use 
braille. Anyways, thanks for the tips.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello everyone,

It used to be that you could press a router key on a Braille display to bring 
focus to that cell. These days, pressing a router key performs the default 
action for the item. I looked through all the VO commands and couldn’t find any 
that would do what I wanted, but I discovered that pressing a router key above 
a space, then pressing the combination for either left or right arrow brings 
the focus to that point.

I’ve also found that the display shows the first line of a page when it gets to 
the bottom of that page, and pressing the Down or Page Down combination brings 
focus to the next page.

I’m working with a Braillino, so it may be different on other displays.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: oppinions wanted

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK.  Go to your Voiceover Utility.  VO+F8.  If that doesn't work, then try 
fn+vo+F8.

Once the utility is opened, go to your menu bar, with vo+M.  VO+right arrow 
over to the file menu, and VO+Down arrow to open it.

Now, vo+Down arrow until you see Reset all Voiceover Settings.

VO+Space on this.  You'll now get a message asking if you're sure.  VO+Right 
arrow to the reset button, and hit VO+Space.

Beware, if you've made any Voiceover configuration changes, they'll be lost, 
but that said, at least you'll now be back at square 1.  If this fixes your 
problem, then before changing anything in here, let us know what you're 
specifically wanting to change.  This way if something goes awri, we know what 
you've done, and how to help you fix it.

Chris.

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  From: Zoe Fiogkos 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:37 PM
  Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


  Hi Chris thanks for all the suggestions, she did not have me do that.  How 
can I set voiceover settings to default?

   

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  Did you have her reset all Voiceover settings in the Voiceover utility?

   

  Chris.

   

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From: joseph hudson 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

 

Chris, when we spoke last evening, I had her check the quick math. It was 
clearly turned off. Other than that little issue that she's having, her Mac 
seems to be running great.

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  On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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  Honestly, there is one very obvious thing which I cannot believe no one 
told you to check.  Do you have quick nav enabled?  Press your left and right 
arrow keys together at the same time.  Not with your vo keys held down.  I'm 
literally saying just press left and right arrows together.  You want to be 
sure it says quick nav off.

   

  Also, it surprises me to absolutely no end that they didn't have you 
change out the double A batteries in the wireless keyboard that comes with the 
IMac.  It could be that your batteries are nearly dead, and therefore it's 
producing strange results.

   

  Also, I'm shocked they didn't have you try plugging in a wired USB 
keyboard, even if it's not an apple based keyboard, and see if your navigation 
works.

   

  If nothing else, they should have offered to try replacing your wireless 
keyboard entirely and send you out a new one, being you said you still have 
Apple Care.

   

  The other thing that I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that they 
didn't have you do was to run a disk permissions repair.  I understand now in 
El Capitan, this isn't as easily possible, but you were having this issue 
before in Mavericks, which definitely! you could have ran disk permissions 
repair, as well as an over all disk repair from there.

   

  I'm not doubting the things you're telling us, but it just seems 
unusually weird that Apple, especially a senior advisor that works for 
Accessibility wouldn't have had you try these things.  I mean, I'm Apple 
certified, and that's one of the very first things I would have had you check.  
Resetting PRam with command+Option+P+R is good, but that may a been overkill.  
Also, I'm not sure if the IMacs would do this, but maybe you may wanna call 
Accessibility back and ask them to help you reset your SMC if that can be done.

   

  Chris.

   

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From: Zoe Fiogkos 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:52 PM

Subject: oppinions wanted

 

Today I was on the phone for over 2 hours with apple accessibility and 
they could not fix my problem, so they have made an appointment with the apple 
store for me on Saturday.  Below in point form is my problem and what apple 
accessibility said and I would like your opinions.

2014 February bought new iMac running mavericks.

Tried using pages and navigation did not work.

Left iMac on desk for over a year.

November 2015 turned on mac same problems.

Asked for help on various lists, answer was basically get training.

Took the suggestion of a friend and backed up and upgraded iMac to 
elcapitan.

Backed up and upgraded without a hitch.

Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Another thing to point out is that vlc now also can be used on ios devices.
Search for vlc on appStore.
/A
> On 24 Nov 2015, at 21:09, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> You can't really get that much from the mac app store nowadays. I see this as 
> a definite plus. Google "VLC and you'll see the video LAN site. Its free, and 
> open source.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this free?  
>> I seem to remember it being free.
>> Brian
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Brian,
>>> VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
>>> necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.
>>> Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.
>>> 
 On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  wrote:
 
 Hello folks,
 The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that lets 
 me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen to, but I 
 didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat without converting 
 them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc files as they are.  
 Thanks,
 Brian
 
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accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
Brian   

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Re: oppinions wanted

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What's the work-around?  that may help us figure this out.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: oppinions wanted


Yes, the agent had me test it on text edit, pages, and we even noticed it 
some times happens in finder that's why she thinks it's a software problem. 
Anyhow we'll see what the boys and girls at the genious bar say.
There is a work around for pages, but the agent admits it should not be 
happening and something odd is going on.



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu

Sent: November-24-15 8:16 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: oppinions wanted

I don’t use the iWork suite, but it sounds to me like the accessibility 
there is still patchy and that really, if my past experience is anything to 
go by, it isn’t your fault at all.  Other listers are presumably better with 
these tools.


Do you get the same navigational issues in TextEdit?

Hopefully whoever assists you is fully versed in the use of iWork with 
VoiceOver.


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Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm not convinced that it's a power issue.

Chris.

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  From: joseph hudson 
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:23 PM
  Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail


  Wow, how interesting. Have you ever tried rebuilding your mailboxes or taking 
your account off-line and then bringing it back? Or even simply removing the 
account and then re-adding it back? This may fix the issue.

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On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:


This happens when it is unplugged and plugged in.

  On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:10 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:


  Is your Mac plugged in when this happens? Because if not, it could 
possibly be a battery issue. I notice my mail those busy when my batteries 
about to die.

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Hello everyone,
I’m noticing something quite strange. In one of my accounts, I have a 
thread with 16 messages. However, when I get to this thread in my list of 
messages, mail becomes busy. Even with my arrowing past the inbox with this 
thread at the top of my messages table mail becomes busy. I’ve never noticed it 
before with larger threads. Anyone know why this is happening? I’m running a 
mac with 16 gigs of ram so surely its not my computer not having enough 
resources.

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Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Its free.
But you have to download it from the videolan.org  site.
/A
> On 24 Nov 2015, at 21:06, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this free?  
> I seem to remember it being free.
> Brian
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Brian,
>> VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
>> necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.
>> Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that lets 
>>> me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen to, but I 
>>> didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat without converting 
>>> them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc files as they are.  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
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RE: interesting behaviour in mac mail

[Faisal ali]

I’m running the latest build of el capitan and I’m using the modern view.

I’m thinking removing the account and re-ading might be worth trying but want 
to try everything else first.

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: November-25-15 7:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

 

I'm not convinced that it's a power issue.

 

Chris.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:23 PM

Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

 

Wow, how interesting. Have you ever tried rebuilding your mailboxes or taking 
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On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Faisal ali  > wrote:

 

This happens when it is unplugged and plugged in.

On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:10 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:

 

Is your Mac plugged in when this happens? Because if not, it could possibly be 
a battery issue. I notice my mail those busy when my batteries about to die.

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On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Faisal ali  > wrote:

 

Hello everyone,
I’m noticing something quite strange. In one of my accounts, I have a thread 
with 16 messages. However, when I get to this thread in my list of messages, 
mail becomes busy. Even with my arrowing past the inbox with this thread at the 
top of my messages table mail becomes busy. I’ve never noticed it before with 
larger threads. Anyone know why this is happening? I’m running a mac with 16 
gigs of ram so surely its not my computer not having enough resources.

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Re: IOS software for recording an audio journal?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Why not use Voice Memos?  If nothing else, do you have Dropbox?  If so, you 
could use an app called Dropvox.  That's d r o p, V, as in victor, o x, as 
in XRay.  It's totally free, don't worry.


What I like about Dropvox is, it'll automatically upload the recording, when 
done recording, to your Dropbox, so then you can access it from anywhere.


Another app, though slightly pricy at $10, but that  is absolutely freaking 
amazing! is Bossjock Studio.


Chris.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:31 PM
Subject: IOS software for recording an audio journal?



Hi all,

I'm thinking about recording an audio journal, using my iPhone.  Just 
wondering if anyone else has done anything similar, and if so, what 
software you used?

TIA,
Donna

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Re: oppinions wanted

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Joseph, I e-mailed her my number off list.  Don't make it a burden on yourself. 
 I'm free, if she needs help, just so's long as she doesn't call on Thanks 
Giving Day specifically.

Any time today, or this Friday though should be fine.  We have the Android 
conference call from 8 to 9 eastern this Friday evening, but aside that, I 
should be free.

Chris.

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  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: oppinions wanted


  No I did not. Do you think that I should get with her before Saturday? And 
have her do that. If so, I can do that tomorrow evening if need be. It's not 
how I would like to spend my vacation but it can be done.

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Did you have her reset all Voiceover settings in the Voiceover utility?

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: oppinions wanted


  Chris, when we spoke last evening, I had her check the quick math. It was 
clearly turned off. Other than that little issue that she's having, her Mac 
seems to be running great.

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On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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Honestly, there is one very obvious thing which I cannot believe no one 
told you to check.  Do you have quick nav enabled?  Press your left and right 
arrow keys together at the same time.  Not with your vo keys held down.  I'm 
literally saying just press left and right arrows together.  You want to be 
sure it says quick nav off.

Also, it surprises me to absolutely no end that they didn't have you 
change out the double A batteries in the wireless keyboard that comes with the 
IMac.  It could be that your batteries are nearly dead, and therefore it's 
producing strange results.

Also, I'm shocked they didn't have you try plugging in a wired USB 
keyboard, even if it's not an apple based keyboard, and see if your navigation 
works.

If nothing else, they should have offered to try replacing your 
wireless keyboard entirely and send you out a new one, being you said you still 
have Apple Care.

The other thing that I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that they 
didn't have you do was to run a disk permissions repair.  I understand now in 
El Capitan, this isn't as easily possible, but you were having this issue 
before in Mavericks, which definitely! you could have ran disk permissions 
repair, as well as an over all disk repair from there.

I'm not doubting the things you're telling us, but it just seems 
unusually weird that Apple, especially a senior advisor that works for 
Accessibility wouldn't have had you try these things.  I mean, I'm Apple 
certified, and that's one of the very first things I would have had you check.  
Resetting PRam with command+Option+P+R is good, but that may a been overkill.  
Also, I'm not sure if the IMacs would do this, but maybe you may wanna call 
Accessibility back and ask them to help you reset your SMC if that can be done.

Chris.

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  From: Zoe Fiogkos 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:52 PM
  Subject: oppinions wanted


  Today I was on the phone for over 2 hours with apple accessibility 
and they could not fix my problem, so they have made an appointment with the 
apple store for me on Saturday.  Below in point form is my problem and what 
apple accessibility said and I would like your opinions.
  2014 February bought new iMac running mavericks.
  Tried using pages and navigation did not work.
  Left iMac on desk for over a year.
  November 2015 turned on mac same problems.
  Asked for help on various lists, answer was basically get training.
  Took the suggestion of a friend and backed up and upgraded iMac to 
elcapitan.
  Backed up and upgraded without a hitch.
  Problems still exist.
  Upgraded pages.
  On a body of text arrow up reads the text, arrow down jumps to menu 
extras.
  Tested on notes app same thing.
  Spoke with a list member on the 

Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Are you in classic view, or not?  Also, what version of OSX?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Faisal ali" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: interesting behaviour in mac mail


Hello everyone,
I’m noticing something quite strange. In one of my accounts, I have a thread 
with 16 messages. However, when I get to this thread in my list of messages, 
mail becomes busy. Even with my arrowing past the inbox with this thread at 
the top of my messages table mail becomes busy. I’ve never noticed it before 
with larger threads. Anyone know why this is happening? I’m running a mac 
with 16 gigs of ram so surely its not my computer not having enough 
resources.


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Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

And you're not on the public, nor private beta,  are you?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Faisal ali 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:03 AM
  Subject: RE: interesting behaviour in mac mail


  I’m running the latest build of el capitan and I’m using the modern view.

  I’m thinking removing the account and re-ading might be worth trying but want 
to try everything else first.

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: November-25-15 7:57 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

   

  I'm not convinced that it's a power issue.

   

  Chris.

   

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From: joseph hudson 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:23 PM

Subject: Re: interesting behaviour in mac mail

 

Wow, how interesting. Have you ever tried rebuilding your mailboxes or 
taking your account off-line and then bringing it back? Or even simply removing 
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Joseph Hudson 

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  On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:

   

  This happens when it is unplugged and plugged in.

On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:10 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

 

Is your Mac plugged in when this happens? Because if not, it could 
possibly be a battery issue. I notice my mail those busy when my batteries 
about to die.

Joseph Hudson 

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  On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Faisal ali  
wrote:

   

  Hello everyone,
  I’m noticing something quite strange. In one of my accounts, I have a 
thread with 16 messages. However, when I get to this thread in my list of 
messages, mail becomes busy. Even with my arrowing past the inbox with this 
thread at the top of my messages table mail becomes busy. I’ve never noticed it 
before with larger threads. Anyone know why this is happening? I’m running a 
mac with 16 gigs of ram so surely its not my computer not having enough 
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Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Is it all that accessible on I O S though?  I know at least on Android, the 
accessibility leaves a lot to be desired.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files


Hi!
Another thing to point out is that vlc now also can be used on ios devices.
Search for vlc on appStore.
/A

On 24 Nov 2015, at 21:09, Devin Prater  wrote:

You can't really get that much from the mac app store nowadays. I see this 
as a definite plus. Google "VLC and you'll see the video LAN site. Its 
free, and open source.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Brian Howerton  
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Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this 
free?  I seem to remember it being free.

Brian
On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens  
wrote:


Hello Brian,
VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.

Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.

On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton  
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Hello folks,
The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that 
lets me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen 
to, but I didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat 
without converting them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc 
files as they are.  Thanks,

Brian

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Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Sadam Ahmed]

All, 

To those of you running El Capitan have Apple fixed the really annoying bug 
where Vocaliser voices would inexplicably change pitch?  

I remember this was a bug they  introduced way back in Lion ( And for some 
reason it was never delt with.) 

Thanks for the indulgence. 

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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Matthew Dierckens]

Yes it was fixed a few beta’s ago, in 11.0

> On Nov 25, 2015, at 09:42, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> All, 
> 
> To those of you running El Capitan have Apple fixed the really annoying bug 
> where Vocaliser voices would inexplicably change pitch?  
> 
> I remember this was a bug they  introduced way back in Lion ( And for some 
> reason it was never delt with.) 
> 
> Thanks for the indulgence. 
> 
> Yours truly, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Certificate IV in International Trade 
> 
> College of Business 
> 
> RMIT University 
> 
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> https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Sadam Ahmed]

At CSUN earlier in the year there was mention of Duxbury coming to the Mac. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Certificate IV International Trade 

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> On 26 Nov 2015, at 12:50 am, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Duxbury

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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

[Sadam Ahmed]

What kind of issues? 

Noticed that some of the premium info box Ivox voices have a delay when typing. 

Heather in particular comes to mind. 

I just wish we could get the ETI synth on the Mac. 

Won’t happen any time soon. 

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> On 26 Nov 2015, at 2:12 am, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I personally haven't encountered this, but Vocalizer does suffer from some 
> other issues. I'm sure those will get addressed, as did the issue with the 
> quality four years later.
> 
> Nicolai
> 
> On 11/25/2015 9:42 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:
>> All, 
>> 
>> To those of you running El Capitan have Apple fixed the really annoying bug 
>> where Vocaliser voices would inexplicably change pitch?  
>> 
>> I remember this was a bug they  introduced way back in Lion ( And for some 
>> reason it was never delt with.) 
>> 
>> Thanks for the indulgence. 
>> 
>> Yours truly, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Certificate IV in International Trade 
>> 
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>> 
>> RMIT University 
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>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-04121258 
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