RE: Possibly getting an older Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

Slight correction,

Yosemite was released 2 years ago, 2014,
El capitan was released last year.

But still good choice I say get it and learn I still prefer features of 
yocsemite 

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On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2016 6:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possibly getting an older Mac

Since it is running Yosemite, I would get it. Yosemite was released last year, 
so VoiceOver should work fine.

Kind regards,

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> On 6/12/2016, at 16:56, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> A lot of this depends on what kind of a Mac it is and how it’s configured.  
> What you should have your friend do is go to the apple menu, about this Mac, 
> and give you the information contained there as in what kind of Mac it is, 
> what kind of processor, how much memory and from there we can answer these 
> questions more intelligently.  That’s how I would start.  If you can post 
> that information I’d be happy to answer the rest of your questions from there.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get 
>> anywhere else.
>> 
>> A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as 
>> she didn't say. I am assuming there are different ones?
>> 
>> She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to 
>> give it to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
>> She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
>> But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7 
>> laptop has a useless battery.
>> 
>> But here is where I am concerned.
>> Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider 
>> accepting it?
>> 
>> What happens if I can't upgrade it?
>> It's running Yosemite.
>> 
>> I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately 
>> cost, my chances of actually ever having one, is rare.
>> 
>> But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
>> If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
>> Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
>> What kinds of programs can I put on to it?
>> 
>> And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even 
>> begin to learn how to do this?
>> 
>> I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
>> But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. 
>> And I know without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.
>> 
>> If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more 
>> than appreciate it.
>> Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be 
>> appreciated.
>> I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Terri
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RE: Possibly getting an older Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Terri,

 Firstly welcome to the list,
 To anser one of your later questions, to get learning knowledge for using a 
mac,
 This is probably one of the better places to get information regarding learnin 
how to use a mac.

 Some great and very knowledgable people here.

 As for the mac, depending on how old it is yeah why not.

 If you had a model number then we could possibly tell you more but Yosemite is 
a nice version of the OS and would be ok to learn on,
 Most of what can be done on the newer 2 operating system versions after 
Yosemite can be done on that version as things pretty much stay the same.

 Batteries can be replaced in the majority of cases and shouldn't be hard to 
replace.

If the machine is being given to you then it's not a bad deal in my book and 
would be a good learning point until yoru in a situation to purchase a newer 
device.

 iPads and iPhones are similar in themselves but the mac os is different 
however with VO setup correctly you can use the mouse or track pad like an 
iPhone or iPad screan and they all work great toghether.

 Hope that helps  if you can get the model or year / period for when the device 
was released we could advise you on more.

Cheers,


Simon F

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2016 4:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Possibly getting an older Mac

Hello everyone,

I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get anywhere 
else.

A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as she didn't 
say. I am assuming there are different ones?

She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to give it 
to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7 laptop has 
a useless battery.

But here is where I am concerned.
Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider accepting it?

What happens if I can't upgrade it?
It's running Yosemite.

I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately cost, my 
chances of actually ever having one, is rare.

But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
What kinds of programs can I put on to it?

And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even begin to 
learn how to do this?

I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. And I know 
without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.

If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more than 
appreciate it.
Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be appreciated.
I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: How do I type a file path?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Robert,

Just note that with the file name on the end including the mp3 your not trying 
to get into a file share but actually play an MP3.
So is this file on your machine your sending this email from or on another 
machine?

The users/Robert/ is your user account and username on the machine,

Try in finder going to the “GO” menu and then down to “GO”  open this and type 
in the /box/music/ and it should take you to your music folder then hunt out 
your file of choice.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Cole
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2016 2:21 PM
To: Email Groups 
Subject: Re: How do I type a file path?

Hi Tim,
I copied and pasted the line you corrected for me into the open folder or file 
dialog, but it opens a finder window of the desktop folder.
users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3’
Even if I pasted the following, It still open the Desktop folder.
users/robert/

on Dec 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Kilburn 
> wrote:


Hi,

It depends on what app you're doing this in.  In terminal, you would do the 
following:

users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3'

Notice that I did two different things within your filename where there was a 
space or spaces.  You can put a back-slash in just before the space so that 
Terminal will ignore that space character, or further in the filename, I put 
quotes around the title.  Both single or double quotes will work.

When in AppleScript, you use colons where Terminal would use the slash, and the 
quotes are not necessary.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 5, 2016, at 11:49, Robert Cole 
> wrote:

Dear List,
Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
for example:

users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


Thanks in advance,
Rob

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RE: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi,

Yeah can understand however the placement of the cable is something that 
everyone needs to think about 

But good luck either way.

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On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2016 8:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

Hi Simon and Hannah
Don't get me wrong.
I have been, and can still use, the extension, but due to my home set up, it is 
potentially dangerous. For example, it could wrap around the chair or even 
someone's leg. So a new charger would be worth it for me to eliminate that 
potential.

> On 5 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI Hannah & Chris,
> 
> Don't get me wrong,
> 
> I've got 2 ac adapters for my mac book air and one that I use at home 
> I have the extension connected 24 7, The second I have at work and that 
> doesn’t' have the extension as the lead is long enough to go over or round 
> the back of my desk.
> 
> Either way should be fine,
> 
> Unless there are broken coating then no need to by a new charger.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hannah day
> Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 6:01 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the 
> transformer
> 
> Hi that is what i thought but Chris did not agree . 
> 
> I wanted him to disconnect the extension as it is Dangerous . 
> 
> Should he replace the Charger?
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> No,
>> 
>> You shouldn't nee the extension,
>> 
>> That's really only needed if your further away from a power point 
>> than you are able to get to with the standard cable
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher 
>> hallsworth
>> Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 8:23 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
>> 
>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> I have a late 2011 13 inch Macbook Pro, as you may or may not know. This of 
>> course comes with the old charger where the transformer comes with an 
>> extension. My concern is I appear to require the extension in order to 
>> charge this mac. Is this correct? If not, should I be concerned? I am due to 
>> upgrade probably around my birthday anyway as I am just ready for one.
>> Thanks for any responses. These will be very much appreciated.
>> 
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RE: How do I type a file path?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Rob,

 It really can depend on the file share,

Is it a windows or mac based file share?

 On the mac back slash becomes a forward slash following on from the unix based 
system.

 If it's a windows based share is it using samba SMB or possibly CIFS 

 Also you could use an email address type log in or username if things are 
setup that way,

There are a number of variables here 

This path you have given,
Users/Robert/Box Sync/Music/Christmas/Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3

I've changed the slashs to forward slash rather than back slashs.

 You also have spaces, I could be wrong but in windows you need " quote marks"  
around a drive name or file name with spaces in it, 
Can't remember if this is the same for windows.
And this path is a music track on your machine in sub folders under your music 
folder.

Sorry I can't be more specific but with out the full information it's hard to 
advise.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Cole
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2016 7:49 AM
To: Email Groups 
Subject: How do I type a file path?

Dear List,
Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
for example:

users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Re: Possibly getting an older Mac

[E.T.]

   El Capitan was released last year, Yosemite the year before.

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On 12/5/2016 9:22 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

Since it is running Yosemite, I would get it. Yosemite was released last year, 
so VoiceOver should work fine.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 6/12/2016, at 16:56, Scott Granados  wrote:

A lot of this depends on what kind of a Mac it is and how it’s configured.  
What you should have your friend do is go to the apple menu, about this Mac, 
and give you the information contained there as in what kind of Mac it is, what 
kind of processor, how much memory and from there we can answer these questions 
more intelligently.  That’s how I would start.  If you can post that 
information I’d be happy to answer the rest of your questions from there.

Thanks
Scott


On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,

I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get
anywhere else.

A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as she
didn't say. I am assuming there are different ones?

She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to
give it to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7
laptop has a useless battery.

But here is where I am concerned.
Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider
accepting it?

What happens if I can't upgrade it?
It's running Yosemite.

I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately
cost, my chances of actually ever having one, is rare.

But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
What kinds of programs can I put on to it?

And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even
begin to learn how to do this?

I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. And I
know without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.

If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more than
appreciate it.
Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be
appreciated.
I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Possibly getting an older Mac

[David Chittenden]

Since it is running Yosemite, I would get it. Yosemite was released last year, 
so VoiceOver should work fine.

Kind regards,

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> On 6/12/2016, at 16:56, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> A lot of this depends on what kind of a Mac it is and how it’s configured.  
> What you should have your friend do is go to the apple menu, about this Mac, 
> and give you the information contained there as in what kind of Mac it is, 
> what kind of processor, how much memory and from there we can answer these 
> questions more intelligently.  That’s how I would start.  If you can post 
> that information I’d be happy to answer the rest of your questions from there.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get 
>> anywhere else.
>> 
>> A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as she 
>> didn't say. I am assuming there are different ones?
>> 
>> She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to 
>> give it to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
>> She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
>> But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7 
>> laptop has a useless battery.
>> 
>> But here is where I am concerned.
>> Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider 
>> accepting it?
>> 
>> What happens if I can't upgrade it?
>> It's running Yosemite.
>> 
>> I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately 
>> cost, my chances of actually ever having one, is rare.
>> 
>> But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
>> If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
>> Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
>> What kinds of programs can I put on to it?
>> 
>> And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even 
>> begin to learn how to do this?
>> 
>> I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
>> But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. And I 
>> know without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.
>> 
>> If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more than 
>> appreciate it.
>> Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be 
>> appreciated.
>> I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: How do I type a file path?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Robert,

Good work.  Sorry, forgot to mention that part.  The slash in front denotes 
that you're starting at the root of the mounted volume, whereas neglecting the 
slash looks within the current folder.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 5, 2016, at 19:22, Robert Cole  wrote:

OK Tim,
I figured out the problem, I added a forward slash in front of users, and that 
fixed it.
/Users/Robert/Box Sync/Music/Christmas/Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


thanks again,

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It depends on what app you're doing this in.  In terminal, you would do the 
> following:
> 
> users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3'
> 
> Notice that I did two different things within your filename where there was a 
> space or spaces.  You can put a back-slash in just before the space so that 
> Terminal will ignore that space character, or further in the filename, I put 
> quotes around the title.  Both single or double quotes will work.
> 
> When in AppleScript, you use colons where Terminal would use the slash, and 
> the quotes are not necessary.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 11:49, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
> for example:
> 
> users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Rob
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Re: Question about the Sonos products

[Scott Granados]

I want 20 channel IMAX.;)

> On Dec 4, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hell no dude,
> Gotta have the 11.2.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2016 6:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> That’s correct, the receiver only is $3000, you have to buy up to 11 more 
> speakers and 2 subs to get the fullest as well as an additional 2 channel 
> amplifier.  You get 9 amplifiers built in to the receiver and an extra 2 
> channels out which you attach to a second amplifier.  Certainly, 9.2 would be 
> sufficient.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I'm guessing that's not with speakers the 3K?
>> 
>> That sounds bloody amazing shame I don't own this house, I'd knock the 
>> living room down and build my rooms around the stereo.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2016 1:24 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
>> 
>> For a goof today I went and looked at a ultra high end receiver.  I 
>> mention it here on the Mac list because it was very configurable via 
>> safari which I actually tried and loved.  You can set up all sorts of 
>> 32 bit audio processing, automatic room equalization, but the kicker, 
>> Dolby Atmos and it’s own proprietary 3d emersion algorithm along with 
>> DTS Neo and several other objected oriented DTS formats.  Whoa!  I 
>> listened to an 11 channel setup, believe it or not, 11.2 where you had 
>> 11 channels and 2 subwoofers.  Again, whoa!  Several sets of speakers 
>> were set in the front for an expanded sound stage in front of you, 
>> sides, back, and yes over head with 2 subwoofers that automatically 
>> adjust so the base is distributed evenly around the room rather than 
>> from a single point.  On the video side it upscaled everything to 4K 
>> 60 FPS complete with HDR video or you could genitive pass through if 
>> you wanted.  You could also break up the 11 channels and have 
>> different speakers for different zones so say 7.1 in the mail room and 
>> 5.1 in the other or 5.1 and several sets of 2 etc.  The thing that 
>> blew me away though was the automatic calibration and setup.  What 
>> would have taken an audio degree in my day to configure used 8 
>> microphone pickups that you scatter around the room and it uses pink 
>> noise and other pulses to set itself up.  Also included WiFi so you 
>> can grab your XM or other streamed content, it automatically software 
>> updated and you could buy extra CODECS and decoders for different 
>> surround standards.  All for $3000 which ain’t bad when you consider 
>> how many features you get.  There’s also an App for the iPad or iPhone 
>> to configure, supports bluetooth and includes preamp outs in case the 
>> 260 watts per channel CLASS AB amps weren’t good enough that are 
>> included.  You also get the full 260 watts class AB on all channels, 
>> not just the fronts.  Each channel has 4 32 bit convertors and they 
>> use 4 32 bit audicy DSP processors for signal manipulation.  (It does 
>> a hell of a lot of math, something like 10 billion flops)
>> 
>> You start adding speakers, installation of the speakers, cables, more 
>> decoders and such and you get in to very tall money very quickly but when I 
>> buy my next free standing house instead of a town house I know the way I’m 
>> going.  The other interesting thing it supposedly had a mechanism that 
>> isolated the sound with in your sound space so you didn’t blow your 
>> neighbors out of their units next door.  I’m skeptical with over a kw of 
>> power.  They didn’t have Sonos at this store, wasn’t high enough end for 
>> them:) but at least I found myself a store that’s still hanging in there 
>> against the big box shops and amazon.
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey David,
>>> 
>>> The sub woofer is a beast yes,
>>> 
>>> I was looking at the next step for my sound system and whether or not 
>>> I could have the play bar and 2 subs
>>> 
>>> See if it would work, no one can tell me
>>> 
>>> But yeah they are bloody easy to setup and use,
>>> 
>>> Add more units to a room and then pair each pair together If you play 
>>> them all as one synced room the sound is syncing perfectly, If 
>>> theaudio comes through different speakers in different rooms then there 
>>> will be a delay.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2016 3:39 PM
>>> To: 

Folder behavior

[Joseph Norton]

Hi list:

I am just now getting back into working with Mac OS, and, I’ve come across 
something which I can’t remember how to deal with.

I must have done something to my Downloads folder, because, when I press 
Command-O from the Home folder to get to Downloads, it doesn’t seem to actually 
  open the folder.  I bet I pressed some function key by accident, but, I’m not 
sure what it is.  Normally, when I press Command-O, it opens up the folder 
normally, but, now, it doesn’t seem to open it at all.  Other folders seem to 
behave ok.

Any suggestions as to how to fix this behavior?

Thanks!

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Re: Braille and VMWare Fusion?

[Scott Granados]

Hi there, yes to both.  First, start fusion and windows, next, attach your 
braille display and a popup will appear on the vm fusion application itself.  
It will ask if you wish to connect the device to your Mac or virtual machine 
and there is a check box to remember your choice so you don’t have to do it 
each time, pick virtual machine and set the checkbox as you desire.  You’ll 
then hear the windows sound for attaching a braille device.

Second, you can use the USB cable on the focus 40 and do the very same 
procedure I listed above, or, go to the settings for the VM, activate the 
bluetooth option so the bluetooth adapter is passed through to windows and use 
the normal braille pairing option from there.

Hope that helps.

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Brandt Steenkamp  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi there folks,
> 
> I have an old Alva 320 display, running off a cereal connection, Can you 
> connect a USB to cereal cable to windows in VMWare? If so, would an older 
> display work?
> 
> A second question. A friend of mine has a Focus 40 blue. How do you connect 
> it to Windows in Fusion?
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
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Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

[Scott Granados]

You can probably just buy that little slide in part for the charger.  Or just 
buy a charger.  You can get them on amazon for 40 or 50 bucks, quite a bit less 
than apple’s list price.

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 2:43 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon and Hannah
> Don't get me wrong.
> I have been, and can still use, the extension, but due to my home set up, it 
> is potentially dangerous. For example, it could wrap around the chair or even 
> someone's leg. So a new charger would be worth it for me to eliminate that 
> potential.
> 
>> On 5 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Hannah & Chris,
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong,
>> 
>> I've got 2 ac adapters for my mac book air and one that I use at home I have 
>> the extension connected 24 7,
>> The second I have at work and that doesn’t' have the extension as the lead 
>> is long enough to go over or round the back of my desk.
>> 
>> Either way should be fine,
>> 
>> Unless there are broken coating then no need to by a new charger.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hannah day
>> Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 6:01 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
>> 
>> Hi that is what i thought but Chris did not agree . 
>> 
>> I wanted him to disconnect the extension as it is Dangerous . 
>> 
>> Should he replace the Charger?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No,
>>> 
>>> You shouldn't nee the extension,
>>> 
>>> That's really only needed if your further away from a power point than you 
>>> are able to get to with the standard cable
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>>> Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 8:23 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries 
>>> Subject: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
>>> 
>>> Evening everyone.
>>> 
>>> I have a late 2011 13 inch Macbook Pro, as you may or may not know. This of 
>>> course comes with the old charger where the transformer comes with an 
>>> extension. My concern is I appear to require the extension in order to 
>>> charge this mac. Is this correct? If not, should I be concerned? I am due 
>>> to upgrade probably around my birthday anyway as I am just ready for one.
>>> Thanks for any responses. These will be very much appreciated.
>>> 
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Re: Possibly getting an older Mac

[Scott Granados]

A lot of this depends on what kind of a Mac it is and how it’s configured.  
What you should have your friend do is go to the apple menu, about this Mac, 
and give you the information contained there as in what kind of Mac it is, what 
kind of processor, how much memory and from there we can answer these questions 
more intelligently.  That’s how I would start.  If you can post that 
information I’d be happy to answer the rest of your questions from there.

Thanks
Scott

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get 
> anywhere else.
> 
> A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as she 
> didn't say. I am assuming there are different ones?
> 
> She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to 
> give it to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
> She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
> But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7 
> laptop has a useless battery.
> 
> But here is where I am concerned.
> Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider 
> accepting it?
> 
> What happens if I can't upgrade it?
> It's running Yosemite.
> 
> I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately 
> cost, my chances of actually ever having one, is rare.
> 
> But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
> If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
> Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
> What kinds of programs can I put on to it?
> 
> And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even 
> begin to learn how to do this?
> 
> I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
> But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. And I 
> know without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.
> 
> If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more than 
> appreciate it.
> Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be 
> appreciated.
> I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
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Possibly getting an older Mac

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I joined this list to get some information I am not sure where to get 
anywhere else.

A great friend of mine has a Mac laptop. I'm not sure which one, as she 
didn't say. I am assuming there are different ones?

She hardly uses it, and has cleaned her stuff off of it. She wants to 
give it to me as a gift, because she just really never used it.
She says that it can't be upgraded, and that the battery is bad.
But this part really doesn't concern me all that much. My windows 7 
laptop has a useless battery.

But here is where I am concerned.
Even though she is giving it to me as a gift, should I consider 
accepting it?

What happens if I can't upgrade it?
It's running Yosemite.

I have wanted a mac for years! But due to how much they unfortunately 
cost, my chances of actually ever having one, is rare.

But if I get this Mac from my friend, what could I do with it?
If it can't be upgraded, won't most Apps no longer work?
Also, what sorts of things can I do with the mac?
What kinds of programs can I put on to it?

And last but not least, if I've never used one before, how do I even 
begin to learn how to do this?

I have an Iphone 5S, and an Ipad mini4th Generation.
But I would imagine that the mac works way differently from those. And I 
know without a doubt it's way different from my laptop running windows.

If anyone could give me any thoughts, or suggestions, I would more than 
appreciate it.
Also, any sites that might be helpful to know about, will also be 
appreciated.
I go to get the mac, if I want it, this Saturday.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: How do I type a file path?

[Robert Cole]

OK Tim,
I figured out the problem, I added a forward slash in front of users, and that 
fixed it.
/Users/Robert/Box Sync/Music/Christmas/Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


thanks again,

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It depends on what app you're doing this in.  In terminal, you would do the 
> following:
> 
> users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3'
> 
> Notice that I did two different things within your filename where there was a 
> space or spaces.  You can put a back-slash in just before the space so that 
> Terminal will ignore that space character, or further in the filename, I put 
> quotes around the title.  Both single or double quotes will work.
> 
> When in AppleScript, you use colons where Terminal would use the slash, and 
> the quotes are not necessary.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 11:49, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
> for example:
> 
> users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Rob
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Re: How do I type a file path?

[Robert Cole]

Hi Tim,
I copied and pasted the line you corrected for me into the open folder or file 
dialog, but it opens a finder window of the desktop folder.
users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3’
> Even if I pasted the following, It still open the Desktop folder.
users/robert/

on Dec 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It depends on what app you're doing this in.  In terminal, you would do the 
> following:
> 
> users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3'
> 
> Notice that I did two different things within your filename where there was a 
> space or spaces.  You can put a back-slash in just before the space so that 
> Terminal will ignore that space character, or further in the filename, I put 
> quotes around the title.  Both single or double quotes will work.
> 
> When in AppleScript, you use colons where Terminal would use the slash, and 
> the quotes are not necessary.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 11:49, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
> for example:
> 
> users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
> Day.mp3
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Rob
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Re: Removing an email address from apple

[Agent086b]

Hi,
thanks for this.  I was receiving these messages on Two email accounts. I must 
have given one as a backup email address. I solved the issue by deleting my 
Hotmail account that I only used for junk accounts.
I was hoping to just tell iCloud not to use the second account. Not a problem 
any longer.
Thanks again.
Max.

> On 5 Dec. 2016, at 4:30 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, I think I understand your question and I believe there are two possible 
> answers neither of which you would like.
> 
> My understanding of the scenario is that you are logging into your account 
> and then you get a warning that you logged into your account. Since you know 
> you logged into your account you are finding this redundant. Now since you 
> are using private browsing no cookies or certificates on your computer are 
> available to provide to the server so the  service provider (iCloud ) has no 
> way of knowing that this is from a standard computer. In fact with IPv6 and 
> Sierra the computer will change its source address almost every time you 
> connect in order to prevent tracking by ethernet's MAC address. 
> 
> Now to the solutions:
> 1. Don't use private browsing. I
> 2. Tell Apple to never warn you
> 
> Obviously you understand why you are using private browsing so you would not 
> want to change that. And you would not want to disable the security 
> notifications (which I am not sure if Apple / iCloud even allows) because 
> then you would not know if your account is being compromised. 
> 
> What I would suggest is to create a mail rule for those messages about a 
> login and have the mail rule play a sound and then delete the message you 
> could have it place something in notification center if you can do some 
> simple Apple Scripting. Then if you get a login to server sound that you did 
> not expect you will be can investigate and  other wise your  time won't be 
> wasted deleting the security notifications.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:27 PM, Agent086b > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> when I log in to iCloud from a browser I receive an email telling me there 
>> has been a login from a browser. How can I change or remove an email 
>> address? The address is not my iCloud address. I know if I select remember 
>> me from a login screen I won’t get an email. However I mainly use private 
>> browsing mode so the cookie or however the checkbox is remembered won’t work.
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Max.
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Numbers Update

[Marissa Manzino]

Hi all,

I just wanted to thank you for your advise with Numbers. Enter and option 
works. I can now see the merged cells and edit them too. THank you so much.

Musically,
Allison

My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!



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Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi Simon and Hannah
Don't get me wrong.
I have been, and can still use, the extension, but due to my home set up, it is 
potentially dangerous. For example, it could wrap around the chair or even 
someone's leg. So a new charger would be worth it for me to eliminate that 
potential.

> On 5 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI Hannah & Chris,
> 
> Don't get me wrong,
> 
> I've got 2 ac adapters for my mac book air and one that I use at home I have 
> the extension connected 24 7,
> The second I have at work and that doesn’t' have the extension as the lead is 
> long enough to go over or round the back of my desk.
> 
> Either way should be fine,
> 
> Unless there are broken coating then no need to by a new charger.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hannah day
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
> 
> Hi that is what i thought but Chris did not agree . 
> 
> I wanted him to disconnect the extension as it is Dangerous . 
> 
> Should he replace the Charger?
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> No,
>> 
>> You shouldn't nee the extension,
>> 
>> That's really only needed if your further away from a power point than you 
>> are able to get to with the standard cable
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 8:23 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
>> 
>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> I have a late 2011 13 inch Macbook Pro, as you may or may not know. This of 
>> course comes with the old charger where the transformer comes with an 
>> extension. My concern is I appear to require the extension in order to 
>> charge this mac. Is this correct? If not, should I be concerned? I am due to 
>> upgrade probably around my birthday anyway as I am just ready for one.
>> Thanks for any responses. These will be very much appreciated.
>> 
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Re: How do I type a file path?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It depends on what app you're doing this in.  In terminal, you would do the 
following:

users/robert/Box\ Sync/Music/Christmas/'Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3'

Notice that I did two different things within your filename where there was a 
space or spaces.  You can put a back-slash in just before the space so that 
Terminal will ignore that space character, or further in the filename, I put 
quotes around the title.  Both single or double quotes will work.

When in AppleScript, you use colons where Terminal would use the slash, and the 
quotes are not necessary.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 5, 2016, at 11:49, Robert Cole  wrote:

Dear List,
Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
for example:

users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


Thanks in advance,
Rob

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How do I type a file path?

[Robert Cole]

Dear List,
Can someone tell me the correct way to type a file path?
for example:

users\robert\Box Sync\Music\Christmas\Johnny Gill - Give Love On Christmas 
Day.mp3


Thanks in advance,
Rob

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Braille and VMWare Fusion?

[Brandt Steenkamp]

Hi there folks,

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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes,  just use tab to navigate around the installer, and space to 
check/activate buttons.  VO is not needed nor particularly responsive in this 
installer.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 5, 2016, at 07:05, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

I use tab in the window and press the spacebar only to check the checkbox.
> On 5 Dec 2016, at 12:54, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> I am running the latest build of sierra, and yes I tried routing VO to the 
> mouse. When I do that, it brings up the apple menu for some reason.
>   
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. I 
>> know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing around 
>> the screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to install 
>> from scratch... Hmm. Let me think...
>> 
>> How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
>> mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?
>> 
>> What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
>> honestly, but, just in case it does...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "aliFaisal" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
>> Subject: Installing flash on the mac
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, 
>> I am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service thereby not 
>> being able to complete the installation. How does one go about selecting the 
>> check box?
>> Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track 
>> pad, nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I 
>> tried to press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for 
>> some reason, voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

I use tab in the window and press the spacebar only to check the checkbox.
> On 5 Dec 2016, at 12:54, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> I am running the latest build of sierra, and yes I tried routing VO to the 
> mouse. When I do that, it brings up the apple menu for some reason.
>   
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. I 
>> know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing around 
>> the screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to install 
>> from scratch... Hmm. Let me think...
>> 
>> How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
>> mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?
>> 
>> What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
>> honestly, but, just in case it does...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "aliFaisal" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
>> Subject: Installing flash on the mac
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, 
>> I am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service thereby not 
>> being able to complete the installation. How does one go about selecting the 
>> check box?
>> Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track 
>> pad, nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I 
>> tried to press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for 
>> some reason, voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[Christine Grassman]

I recently encountered this annoyance.. I shut off VoiceOver, and I  pressed 
spacebar in the place I believed the checkbox to be when VO was off. I turned 
VO back on, and it was checked. I tried this out of sheer frustration. Hope it 
works for you. 
Christine

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:54 AM, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> I am running the latest build of sierra, and yes I tried routing VO to the 
> mouse. When I do that, it brings up the apple menu for some reason.
>   
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. I 
>> know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing around 
>> the screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to install 
>> from scratch... Hmm. Let me think...
>> 
>> How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
>> mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?
>> 
>> What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
>> honestly, but, just in case it does...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "aliFaisal" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
>> Subject: Installing flash on the mac
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, 
>> I am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service thereby not 
>> being able to complete the installation. How does one go about selecting the 
>> check box?
>> Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track 
>> pad, nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I 
>> tried to press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for 
>> some reason, voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Gosh, you know... I've seen this behavior before, so you're not alone. I 
just don't know a sollution, lamentably. And, when I did! see it, it wasn't 
in the Flash installer.


It will be very interesting to see what you find out about this in the long 
run. :)


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "aliFaisal" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Installing flash on the mac


I am running the latest build of sierra, and yes I tried routing VO to the 
mouse. When I do that, it brings up the apple menu for some reason.


On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. 
I know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing 
around the screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to 
install from scratch... Hmm. Let me think...


How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?


What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
honestly, but, just in case it does...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "aliFaisal" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
Subject: Installing flash on the mac


I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation 
window, I am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service 
thereby not being able to complete the installation. How does one go about 
selecting the check box?
Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track 
pad, nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I 
tried to press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for 
some reason, voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.

Thanks

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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[aliFaisal]

I am running the latest build of sierra, and yes I tried routing VO to the 
mouse. When I do that, it brings up the apple menu for some reason.

> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. I 
> know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing around the 
> screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to install from 
> scratch... Hmm. Let me think...
> 
> How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
> mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?
> 
> What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
> honestly, but, just in case it does...
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "aliFaisal" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
> Subject: Installing flash on the mac
> 
> 
> I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, I 
> am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service thereby not 
> being able to complete the installation. How does one go about selecting the 
> check box?
> Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track pad, 
> nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I tried to 
> press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for some reason, 
> voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Installing flash on the mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hmm, let's see here. It's been a while since I initially installed Flash. I 
know the updater is accessible, I mean, yeah, you gotta tab. VOing around 
the screen won't cut it for some weird reason, but you're trying to install 
from scratch... Hmm. Let me think...


How about this: Have you tried maybe tabbing to that checkbox, routing the 
mouse with VO+Command+F5, then doing a VO+Shift+Space to click?


What version are you running of OSX? I'd not think that would matter, 
honestly, but, just in case it does...


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "aliFaisal" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:37 AM
Subject: Installing flash on the mac


I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, 
I am unable to check the box for accepting the terms of service thereby not 
being able to complete the installation. How does one go about selecting the 
check box?
Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track 
pad, nothing would happen. Likewise for VO left and right arrow. when I 
tried to press space or return on the checkbox, nothing would happen. for 
some reason, voiceover focus isn’t switching to it from what I can tell.

Thanks

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Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Even still, I've never heard of that.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anders Holmberg 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.


  Hi!
  Option command up arrow.
  /A

4 dec. 2016 kl. 23:02 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
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Option command left and right arrow? wuh? I've never heard a that. What did 
I miss?
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.


  Hi!
  Try option command left arrow and option command right arrow to go to top 
or bottom.
  You can use the shift key in conjunction with these keys to if you want 
to mark mails and remove them.
  Otherwise use arrow up or down with the shift key to mark the mails you 
want to remove.
  Hope this helps.
  /A

4 dec. 2016 kl. 22:43 skrev Eileen Scrivani :


Hi, 

I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS. 

First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to 
the very top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.

Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the 
in-box?  Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t 
have a numeric keypad.

Thanks for the help.

Eileen


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Installing flash on the mac

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I am trying to install flash on my mac. However in the installation window, I 
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Note, I can only get to it by tabbing. When I tried swiping on the track pad, 
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Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Im sorry that i gave the wrong commands.
I must have been out of coffee for to long.
/A
> 5 dec. 2016 kl. 00:19 skrev John Panarese :
> 
>It’s option-command-up or down arrow when you are interacted with the 
> table to get to the top or bottom of the list.
> 
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>> On Dec 4, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Eileen Scrivani > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I tried Command + Option left/right and neither worked.  Any other commands 
>> to going directly to the first & last message in the table?  I was 
>> interacting with the messages table when I tried this. Quick Nav was off. 
>> And it just did nothing.
>>  
>> Does any one know what the command is that will get me directly to the first 
>> & last messages in the in-box?  There are so many messages the method of 
>> using down/up arrow is painful.
>>  
>> Thanks for any help.
>>  
>> Eileen
>>  
>>  
>> From: Anders Holmberg <>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 4:57 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.
>>  
>> Hi!
>> Try option command left arrow and option command right arrow to go to top or 
>> bottom.
>> You can use the shift key in conjunction with these keys to if you want to 
>> mark mails and remove them.
>> Otherwise use arrow up or down with the shift key to mark the mails you want 
>> to remove.
>> Hope this helps.
>> /A
>>> 4 dec. 2016 kl. 22:43 skrev Eileen Scrivani >:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS.
>>>  
>>> First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to the   
>>>  very top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.
>>>  
>>> Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the 
>>> in-box?  Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t 
>>> have a numeric keypad.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>  
>>> Eileen
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Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Option command up arrow.
/A
> 4 dec. 2016 kl. 23:02 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland :
> 
> Option command left and right arrow? wuh? I've never heard a that. What did I 
> miss?
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anders Holmberg 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 4:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Few Basic Mail Questions.
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Try option command left arrow and option command right arrow to go to top or 
>> bottom.
>> You can use the shift key in conjunction with these keys to if you want to 
>> mark mails and remove them.
>> Otherwise use arrow up or down with the shift key to mark the mails you want 
>> to remove.
>> Hope this helps.
>> /A
>>> 4 dec. 2016 kl. 22:43 skrev Eileen Scrivani >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>>  
>>> I have a few basic mail questions.  This is in the latest OS. 
>>>  
>>> First I need to know the commands that will allow navigating to go to the 
>>> very top & very bottom of the messages in the in-box.
>>>  
>>> Second, what command will perform a mass deletion of messages in the 
>>> in-box?  Both of these are on a laptop so keep in mind the computer doesn’t 
>>> have a numeric keypad.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>  
>>> Eileen
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RE: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

[Simon Fogarty]

HI Hannah & Chris,

Don't get me wrong,

I've got 2 ac adapters for my mac book air and one that I use at home I have 
the extension connected 24 7,
 The second I have at work and that doesn’t' have the extension as the lead is 
long enough to go over or round the back of my desk.

 Either way should be fine,

 Unless there are broken coating then no need to by a new charger.

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On Behalf Of hannah day
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 6:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer

Hi that is what i thought but Chris did not agree . 

I wanted him to disconnect the extension as it is Dangerous . 

Should he replace the Charger?


> On 4 Dec 2016, at 08:40, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> No,
> 
> You shouldn't nee the extension,
> 
> That's really only needed if your further away from a power point than you 
> are able to get to with the standard cable
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2016 8:23 AM
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> Subject: Question about my mac and the extension for the transformer
> 
> Evening everyone.
> 
> I have a late 2011 13 inch Macbook Pro, as you may or may not know. This of 
> course comes with the old charger where the transformer comes with an 
> extension. My concern is I appear to require the extension in order to charge 
> this mac. Is this correct? If not, should I be concerned? I am due to upgrade 
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