Re: just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

[Thuy Mallalieu]

Hi Ramy. You can select text by including text selection in the rotor. You have 
to go into general / accessibility / voiceover / rotor. Make sure you double 
tap on it to check/select it. Once you rotor to text selection, swiping up or 
down goes through the selection types i.e character, word, line, heading and 
select all.  Then double tap once you chosen which element to select by. The 
only slightly tricky thing is if you need to select from a certain point in the 
text. You have to navigate to that point using move by character, word or line. 
Then you have to turn the rotor to text selection and swipe up or down to the 
type of selection required as stated above. Hope this helps
Cheers
Thuy


Sent from my iPad

> On 21 Mar 2017, at 13:25, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> 
> After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
> something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
> so am I the only one that has this,?
> all I need is to select the hole text in the email.
> 
> my suggestion is as follows:
> why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
> for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
> we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
> an end mark.
> 
> Need to know your opinions.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: Creating email folders and labels

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello:

For unknown reasons, I can not get the full thread. but do you still
need help setting up Rools on Gmail etc?

On 3/14/17, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> Redirect is like a forward but instead of encapsulating the message in a new
> message the redirect-to: and redirect-from mail headers are added. This is
> not used much these days, but would be useful for example if you wanted to
> forward all messages from John Smith from your personal e-mail to your work
> e-mail. A significant advantage of redirecting is that reply will still work
> correctly.
>
>
>   Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>> On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>
>> I’m making them on my Mac.  Do you happen to know what the rule redirect
>> means?  I’m wondering the difference between move and redirect.
>>
>> I think I’ll delete the rule I created and start over.  The first go
>> round, did help me clean up my inbox, which was greatly needed.  ;)
>>
>> Maybe creating a new rule with an empty inbox will make the difference.
>> Otherwise, I’ll just log onto gMail on the web.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you making the rules on your macintosh, or on the Gmail site?
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a "skip inbox" function on the Macintosh rules,
>>> but I haven't played with them lately. The Macintosh mail rules have a
>>> copy and move function. So the move function would be like the Google's
>>> skip inbox.
>>>
>>> Most likely what is happening is that the Macintosh rules only run on
>>> unread e-mails when Mail is retrieving messages. So if you first read  a
>>> message on your IOS device and than it gets retrieved by the Mac the rule
>>> does not run.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 March 2017 at 14:19, Traci Duncan >> > wrote:
>>> Hi, as far as I know I have done things correctly, but the rules aren’t
>>> automatically running.  I came across a groupon email in my inbox and hit
>>> run rule, then it moved to my deals folder, but it didn’t do it without
>>> my input.
>>>
>>> Do you think I need to add a rule to skip inbox?  What I have is a list
>>> of addresses to move into deals folder.  Since sales emails sometimes use
>>> different email addresses, I set it up from contains groupon.com
>>> .  Another example is from contains propellants.com
>>> .  I went to the original emails to make sure I
>>> had the letters in the URL correct.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?  In the mean time, I’m going to look at the rule
>>> options again.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>>
 On Mar 9, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:

 If you create a folder under your Gmail account on Macintosh Mail, and
 you are using the IMAP protocol to retrieve e-mails then this will
 create a label on the web page.

 Let me know if you need more details.


 On 8 March 2017 at 15:17, Traci Duncan > wrote:
 I usually go onto the web and log into gMail to create new folders and
 labels, but I was wondering can this be done in Mac mail?  If so, would
 it be just the same as if I had gone to gMail on the web?  I want the
 folder and labels to show up across the board, like my others do.

 Thank you, trying to tidy up my email account.  :)
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Ramy Moustafa]

Chris:
Thanks so much, this is very important info for me specially when
pasting some text in my Research.
Thanks again and thanks tim


On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Chris,
>
> thanks for this.  I think I've seen this but never really considered it for
> probably unknown reasons.  Could have just been my claims of being too busy
> to check into it.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:38, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> A similar effect can be had by doing a "paste without formatting" which is
> command-option-shift-V. This is also handy when you're pasting text from
> different places into a document and you don't want all the font and other
> formatting to come along, which usually means your pasted text will inherit
> the formatting of wherever it is you are pasting it.
>
> CB
>
> On 3/21/17 10:50 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Thanks Andrew.  Well explained.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 08:23, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>
>> Tim has just described how to select the entire text of a webpage once you
>> interact with it by pressing command+a.  Then you might wish to paste it
>> into textedit open document.  The key combination Tim has mentioned at
>> this stage, command+shift+t, converts what you've just pasted into plain
>> text, which strips it of all the links and other unnecessary features that
>> html has.  You will be asked to confirm this, press ok and you will have
>> just plain text of the page whose text you wish to copy in its entirety.
>>
>> Andrew
>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:10, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
>>> but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,

 There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.

 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block
 of
 text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
 clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.

 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected,
 then
 press cmd-c to copy.

 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it
 with
 VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to
 select,
 press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c
 to
 copy.

 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
 document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
 cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what
 you
 need from this text.

 Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area,
 and
 QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web
 content
 areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if
 it
 doesn't work, try one of the other methods.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa 
 wrote:

 Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
 it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
 text that I need to get.
 but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
 doing this? I mean copying a block of text?

 On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
>
> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
> especially
> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The
> way
> I
> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are
> interested
> in,
> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last
> phrase
> or
> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the
> key
> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in
> mind
> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than
> the
> bit
> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
> the
> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
> it's
> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
> that
> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a
> link
> or
> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
> "image',
> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you
> need
> to
> check and edit what has been 

Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Tim Kilburn]

Chris,

thanks for this.  I think I've seen this but never really considered it for 
probably unknown reasons.  Could have just been my claims of being too busy to 
check into it.

Thanks again.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:38, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

A similar effect can be had by doing a "paste without formatting" which is 
command-option-shift-V. This is also handy when you're pasting text from 
different places into a document and you don't want all the font and other 
formatting to come along, which usually means your pasted text will inherit the 
formatting of wherever it is you are pasting it.

CB

On 3/21/17 10:50 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Thanks Andrew.  Well explained.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 08:23, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Tim has just described how to select the entire text of a webpage once you 
> interact with it by pressing command+a.  Then you might wish to paste it into 
> textedit open document.  The key combination Tim has mentioned at this stage, 
> command+shift+t, converts what you've just pasted into plain text, which 
> strips it of all the links and other unnecessary features that html has.  You 
> will be asked to confirm this, press ok and you will have just plain text of 
> the page whose text you wish to copy in its entirety.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:10, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
>> but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>>> 
>>> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of
>>> text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
>>> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then
>>> press cmd-c to copy.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with
>>> VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select,
>>> press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to
>>> copy.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
>>> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
>>> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
>>> need from this text.
>>> 
>>> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and
>>> QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content
>>> areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it
>>> doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
>>> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
>>> text that I need to get.
>>> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
>>> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>>> 
>>> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 Hi Ramy,
 
 Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
 especially
 if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way
 I
 do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
 in,
 you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
 or
 portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
 combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
 that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
 clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
 bit
 you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
 the
 text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
 it's
 doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
 that
 it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link
 or
 image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
 "image',
 "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need
 to
 check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
 content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
 are
 more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
 text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
 regularly
 comes up and others have tried different solutions.
 
 Hope this will help a little.
 

Re: Selecting a text On Safari

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

A similar effect can be had by doing a "paste without formatting" which 
is command-option-shift-V. This is also handy when you're pasting text 
from different places into a document and you don't want all the font 
and other formatting to come along, which usually means your pasted text 
will inherit the formatting of wherever it is you are pasting it.


CB

On 3/21/17 10:50 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Thanks Andrew.  Well explained.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2017, at 08:23, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Tim has just described how to select the entire text of a webpage once you 
interact with it by pressing command+a.  Then you might wish to paste it into 
textedit open document.  The key combination Tim has mentioned at this stage, 
command+shift+t, converts what you've just pasted into plain text, which strips 
it of all the links and other unnecessary features that html has.  You will be 
asked to confirm this, press ok and you will have just plain text of the page 
whose text you wish to copy in its entirety.

Andrew

On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:10, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?


On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.

1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of
text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.

2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then
press cmd-c to copy.

3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with
VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select,
press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to
copy.

4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
need from this text.

Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and
QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content
areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it
doesn't work, try one of the other methods.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
text that I need to get.
but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
doing this? I mean copying a block of text?

On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hi Ramy,

Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
especially
if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way
I
do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
in,
you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
or
portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
bit
you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
the
text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
it's
doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
that
it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link
or
image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
"image',
"clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need
to
check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
are
more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
regularly
comes up and others have tried different solutions.

Hope this will help a little.

Andrew

On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
wrote:

Hello all:
Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site
on
safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
file. how can i do this/
thanks in advance

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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi and ew Tim and John:

Thanks so much, I now have all the things to do what I need, again
thanks so much


On 3/21/17, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> Just a note on method 2. Generally when I have found this does not work is
> when the website has its own definition for the arrow keys defined. You can
> override this in VoiceOver Utility under the web area. Always allow
> keyboard commands to navigate websites unchecked
> If you check this box, then you can read web pages with just plain arrow
> keys and select with shift arrow keys.
>
> The problem is that with web pages that have javascript enabled menus or
> tree views those sections of the web page will not behave as expected.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:03 AM Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>>
>> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block
>> of text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
>> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>>
>> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected,
>> then press cmd-c to copy.
>>
>> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it
>> with VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to
>> select, press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press
>> cmd-c to copy.
>>
>> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
>> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
>> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what
>> you
>> need from this text.
>>
>> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area,
>> and QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web
>> content areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try
>> one, if it doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
>> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
>> text that I need to get.
>> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
>> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>>
>> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> > Hi Ramy,
>> >
>> > Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
>> especially
>> > if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The
>> way I
>> > do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
>> in,
>> > you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last
>> > phrase
>> or
>> > portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
>> > combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in
>> > mind
>> > that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
>> > clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
>> bit
>> > you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
>> the
>> > text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
>> it's
>> > doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
>> that
>> > it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a
>> link or
>> > image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
>> "image',
>> > "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you
>> need to
>> > check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
>> > content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
>> are
>> > more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of
>> > copying
>> > text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
>> regularly
>> > comes up and others have tried different solutions.
>> >
>> > Hope this will help a little.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello all:
>> >> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web
>> >> site
>> on
>> >> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to
>> >> another
>> >> file. how can i do this/
>> >> thanks in advance
>> >>
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Re: step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio Hijack interface?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Alex,
Thanks for your precise  tutorial.
I'm starting through it now.

Do you know if audio hijack can capture avid's pro tools audio?
Thanks again
Chuck


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On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Yes, I wrote the guide. Here's the link:
> https://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps-voiceover/guide-using-audio-hijack-voiceover
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 05:34, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> 
>> I have it , but since the only thing i use it for is flying, where we
>> just crank anything and everything up as loud as you can im not sure i
>> will be of much help
>> 
>> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> 
>>> Alex Hall - if I remember correctly - a member of this list did a short
>>> tutorial on Audiohijack 3, which you could possibly find on applevis website
>>> by doing a search.  The website url is
>>> www.applevis.com 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 20 Mar 2017, at 22:30, CHUCK REICHEL 
 wrote:
 
 Hi List,
 I just upgraded to Audio Hijack 3 on my El Capitan box, and Was wondering
 if anybody had a quick "step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio
 Hijack interface?
 Thanks
 Chuck
 
 
 
 
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Jonathan Cohn]

Just a note on method 2. Generally when I have found this does not work is
when the website has its own definition for the arrow keys defined. You can
override this in VoiceOver Utility under the web area. Always allow
keyboard commands to navigate websites unchecked
If you check this box, then you can read web pages with just plain arrow
keys and select with shift arrow keys.

The problem is that with web pages that have javascript enabled menus or
tree views those sections of the web page will not behave as expected.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:03 AM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>
> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block
> of text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>
> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected,
> then press cmd-c to copy.
>
> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it
> with VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to
> select, press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press
> cmd-c to copy.
>
> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
> need from this text.
>
> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area,
> and QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web
> content areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try
> one, if it doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
> text that I need to get.
> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>
> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> > Hi Ramy,
> >
> > Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
> especially
> > if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The
> way I
> > do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
> in,
> > you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
> or
> > portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
> > combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
> > that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
> > clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
> bit
> > you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
> the
> > text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
> it's
> > doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
> that
> > it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a
> link or
> > image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
> "image',
> > "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you
> need to
> > check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
> > content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
> are
> > more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
> > text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
> regularly
> > comes up and others have tried different solutions.
> >
> > Hope this will help a little.
> >
> > Andrew
> >> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all:
> >> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site
> on
> >> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
> >> file. how can i do this/
> >> thanks in advance
> >>
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Tim Kilburn]

Thanks Andrew.  Well explained.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2017, at 08:23, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Tim has just described how to select the entire text of a webpage once you 
interact with it by pressing command+a.  Then you might wish to paste it into 
textedit open document.  The key combination Tim has mentioned at this stage, 
command+shift+t, converts what you've just pasted into plain text, which strips 
it of all the links and other unnecessary features that html has.  You will be 
asked to confirm this, press ok and you will have just plain text of the page 
whose text you wish to copy in its entirety.

Andrew
> On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:10, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
> but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?
> 
> 
> On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>> 
>> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of
>> text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
>> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>> 
>> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then
>> press cmd-c to copy.
>> 
>> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with
>> VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select,
>> press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to
>> copy.
>> 
>> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
>> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
>> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
>> need from this text.
>> 
>> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and
>> QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content
>> areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it
>> doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
>> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
>> text that I need to get.
>> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
>> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>> 
>> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Ramy,
>>> 
>>> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
>>> especially
>>> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way
>>> I
>>> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
>>> in,
>>> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
>>> or
>>> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
>>> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
>>> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
>>> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
>>> bit
>>> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
>>> the
>>> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
>>> it's
>>> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
>>> that
>>> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link
>>> or
>>> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
>>> "image',
>>> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need
>>> to
>>> check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
>>> content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
>>> are
>>> more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
>>> text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
>>> regularly
>>> comes up and others have tried different solutions.
>>> 
>>> Hope this will help a little.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site
 on
 safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
 file. how can i do this/
 thanks in advance
 
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Directv App Question

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Re: step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio Hijack interface?

[Alex Hall]

Yes, I wrote the guide. Here's the link:
https://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps-voiceover/guide-using-audio-hijack-voiceover

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> On Mar 21, 2017, at 05:34, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
> 
> I have it , but since the only thing i use it for is flying, where we
> just crank anything and everything up as loud as you can im not sure i
> will be of much help
> 
> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hi Chuck,
>> 
>> Alex Hall - if I remember correctly - a member of this list did a short
>> tutorial on Audiohijack 3, which you could possibly find on applevis website
>> by doing a search.  The website url is
>> www.applevis.com 
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 20 Mar 2017, at 22:30, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> I just upgraded to Audio Hijack 3 on my El Capitan box, and Was wondering
>>> if anybody had a quick "step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio
>>> Hijack interface?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
>>> 954-742-0019
>>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>> Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee:
>>> because he trusteth in thee.
>>> 
>>> In GOD I Trust
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Andrew Lamanche]

Tim has just described how to select the entire text of a webpage once you 
interact with it by pressing command+a.  Then you might wish to paste it into 
textedit open document.  The key combination Tim has mentioned at this stage, 
command+shift+t, converts what you've just pasted into plain text, which strips 
it of all the links and other unnecessary features that html has.  You will be 
asked to confirm this, press ok and you will have just plain text of the page 
whose text you wish to copy in its entirety.

Andrew
> On 21 Mar 2017, at 14:10, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
> but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?
> 
> 
> On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>> 
>> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of
>> text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
>> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>> 
>> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then
>> press cmd-c to copy.
>> 
>> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with
>> VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select,
>> press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to
>> copy.
>> 
>> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
>> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
>> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
>> need from this text.
>> 
>> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and
>> QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content
>> areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it
>> doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
>> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
>> text that I need to get.
>> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
>> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>> 
>> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> Hi Ramy,
>>> 
>>> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
>>> especially
>>> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way
>>> I
>>> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
>>> in,
>>> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
>>> or
>>> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
>>> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
>>> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
>>> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
>>> bit
>>> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
>>> the
>>> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
>>> it's
>>> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
>>> that
>>> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link
>>> or
>>> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
>>> "image',
>>> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need
>>> to
>>> check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
>>> content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
>>> are
>>> more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
>>> text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
>>> regularly
>>> comes up and others have tried different solutions.
>>> 
>>> Hope this will help a little.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all:
 Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site
 on
 safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
 file. how can i do this/
 thanks in advance
 
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much tim, very helpful really
but may I know what is cmd-shift-t, ?


On 3/21/17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.
>
> 1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of
> text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the
> clipboard.  You can then paste it wherever you wish.
>
> 2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then
> press cmd-c to copy.
>
> 3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with
> VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select,
> press VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to
> copy.
>
> 4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit
> document and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press
> cmd-v to paste the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you
> need from this text.
>
> Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and
> QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content
> areas work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it
> doesn't work, try one of the other methods.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
> it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
> text that I need to get.
> but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
> doing this? I mean copying a block of text?
>
> On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hi Ramy,
>>
>> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem,
>> especially
>> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way
>> I
>> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested
>> in,
>> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase
>> or
>> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
>> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
>> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
>> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the
>> bit
>> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of
>> the
>> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least
>> it's
>> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything
>> that
>> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link
>> or
>> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link",
>> "image',
>> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need
>> to
>> check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
>> content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they
>> are
>> more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
>> text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic
>> regularly
>> comes up and others have tried different solutions.
>>
>> Hope this will help a little.
>>
>> Andrew
>>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all:
>>> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site
>>> on
>>> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
>>> file. how can i do this/
>>> thanks in advance
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There are multiple methods for copying from a web page.

1.  VO-shift-c as mentioned by Andrew.  Whereby you have VO read a block of 
text, press VO-shift-c to copy the last phrase uttered by VO to the clipboard.  
You can then paste it wherever you wish.

2.  Hold down the shift key then arrow through what you wish selected, then 
press cmd-c to copy.

3.  Navigate to the beginning of the section you wish selected, mark it with 
VO-return, navigate right through to the end of what you wish to select, press 
VO-return again to mark the end of the section, then press cmd-c to copy.

4.  Press cmd-a to select everything on the web page, open a TextEdit document 
and put it into Plain Text by pressing cmd-shift-t, then press cmd-v to paste 
the text into the document.  You can then copy out what you need from this text.

Note that in most cases, you need to Interact with the web content area, and 
QuickNav needs to be turned off.  Different web pages and/or web content areas 
work better with different methods listed above.  Just try one, if it doesn't 
work, try one of the other methods.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 21, 2017, at 07:22, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
text that I need to get.
but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
doing this? I mean copying a block of text?

On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
> 
> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem, especially
> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way I
> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested in,
> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase or
> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the bit
> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of the
> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least it's
> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything that
> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link or
> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link", "image',
> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need to
> check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
> content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they are
> more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
> text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic regularly
> comes up and others have tried different solutions.
> 
> Hope this will help a little.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site on
>> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
>> file. how can i do this/
>> thanks in advance
>> 
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just a suggestion, Selecting on Iphone

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello all:

After releasing the Ios v10, Selecting all text in an email or
something became very hard, I must make many many trials to succeed.
so am I the only one that has this,?
all I need is to select the hole text in the email.

my suggestion is as follows:
why apple can not try to give us a place to put a start and end mark
for selecting instead of using 2 fingers etc which is not easy?
we can just put a starting mark, and move by word or lines, then put
an end mark.

Need to know your opinions.
Thanks


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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello Andrew, thanks so much for that.
it's really so frustrating, specially if the page contains  a block of
text that I need to get.
but so so sorry for asking, are you sure that this is the only way of
doing this? I mean copying a block of text?

On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Ramy,
>
> Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem, especially
> if you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way I
> do it is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested in,
> you can invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase or
> portion of text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key
> combination you can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind
> that you may have to edit the pasted text since what's copied to the
> clipboard is the last spoken piece of text which may be longer than the bit
> you require.  You can then go back to Safari and copy another chunk of the
> text, using the same key combination.  This is not ideal but at least it's
> doable.  Just remember that Voiceover will copy absolutely everything that
> it has said.  So for instance, if the portion of the text includes a link or
> image or clickable text, and Voiceover says this, the word "link", "image',
> "clickable" will also be copied as part of the text.  that's why you need to
> check and edit what has been pasted.  If you need to copy the entire
> content, there are other methods but I won't describe them now as they are
> more complex.  You might find more information on the subject of copying
> text from a webpage in macvisionaries group archive as this topic regularly
> comes up and others have tried different solutions.
>
> Hope this will help a little.
>
> Andrew
>> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site on
>> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another
>> file. how can i do this/
>> thanks in advance
>>
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Re: step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio Hijack interface?

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

I have it , but since the only thing i use it for is flying, where we
just crank anything and everything up as loud as you can im not sure i
will be of much help

On 3/21/17, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Hi Chuck,
>
> Alex Hall - if I remember correctly - a member of this list did a short
> tutorial on Audiohijack 3, which you could possibly find on applevis website
> by doing a search.  The website url is
> www.applevis.com 
>
> Andrew
>> On 20 Mar 2017, at 22:30, CHUCK REICHEL 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>> I just upgraded to Audio Hijack 3 on my El Capitan box, and Was wondering
>> if anybody had a quick "step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio
>> Hijack interface?
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CHUCK REICHEL
>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
>> 954-742-0019
>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee:
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Re: Selecting a text On Safari

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Ramy,

Selecting text on a webpage has always been a bit of a problem, especially if 
you need to select and copy just a small portion of the text.  The way I do it 
is as follows: once you find and hear the text you are interested in, you can 
invoke Voiceover command vo+shift+c which copies the last phrase or portion of 
text that voiceover has just spoken.  Once you press the key combination you 
can then paste it into another application.  Bear in mind that you may have to 
edit the pasted text since what's copied to the clipboard is the last spoken 
piece of text which may be longer than the bit you require.  You can then go 
back to Safari and copy another chunk of the text, using the same key 
combination.  This is not ideal but at least it's doable.  Just remember that 
Voiceover will copy absolutely everything that it has said.  So for instance, 
if the portion of the text includes a link or image or clickable text, and 
Voiceover says this, the word "link", "image', "clickable" will also be copied 
as part of the text.  that's why you need to check and edit what has been 
pasted.  If you need to copy the entire content, there are other methods but I 
won't describe them now as they are more complex.  You might find more 
information on the subject of copying text from a webpage in macvisionaries 
group archive as this topic regularly comes up and others have tried different 
solutions.

Hope this will help a little.

Andrew
> On 21 Mar 2017, at 00:36, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> Sorry if my question is  a starting question, but  i came to a web site on 
> safari that i need to select some text from it, and copy them to another 
> file. how can i do this/
> thanks in advance 
> 
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Re: step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio Hijack interface?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Chuck,

Alex Hall - if I remember correctly - a member of this list did a short 
tutorial on Audiohijack 3, which you could possibly find on applevis website by 
doing a search.  The website url is 
www.applevis.com 

Andrew
> On 20 Mar 2017, at 22:30, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> I just upgraded to Audio Hijack 3 on my El Capitan box, and Was wondering if 
> anybody had a quick "step by step "tutorial"" for using the new Audio Hijack 
> interface?
> Thanks
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
> 954-742-0019
> Isaiah 26 : 3
>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
> he trusteth in thee.
> 
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RE: Question regarding clean install

[Simon Fogarty]

HI,

 Not a big fan of Podcasting and besides the differences between el cap and 
sierra  are pretty much the spelling of the name.

 Pretty much they are the same 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 3:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding clean install

Hi,


Thanks for the clearity.  I wish someone would do an updated install podcast.  
I know mike arrigo did one for el capitain, but no one has done one for Serria. 
 Thanks again for your help.


Matthew




On 03/20/2017 03:01 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
>
>   When you install the OS on your machine as a new installation That 
> process also sets up an installation recovery partition as part of the 
> process.
>
>   As for everytime a sierra update comes out you don't have to make or create 
> a new / updated USB installer  the Sierra update will / can be updated to 
> your machine through either the software updates or the applications store.
>
> As for eraising and or repartitioning of the drive, you can do that from disk 
> utilities at the start of the installation process.
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
> Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 4:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question regarding clean install
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I already have a uasb installer, but if I erase the driveand use the usb 
> installer to install the drive it should work then.  I am planing erasing the 
> drive and repartitioning the drive.  Just want to make sure I am clear on 
> this.  Also, if I  have 10.12.3, will need to redo the usb drive everytime a 
> new version of seria is out?  I though making a recovery usb was supposed to 
> save this stuff.  Thanks.
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
> On 03/19/2017 04:11 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Really easy way to do this is use the terminal from within your mac os,
>>So long as you have the installation package in your applications folder  
>> you just write the command
>>Sudo
>> /Applications/Install|MacOS|Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/Createinsta
>> l lationmedia --volume /Volume/USB-Device --applicationpath 
>> /Applications/Install|MacOS|Sierrra.app
>>
>> Give or take a couple of spaces and spelling mistakes the command is along 
>> that line.
>>
>>Doing a search for how to create Mac OS installer USB within 
>> Google should give you the ansers, All you have to do is ensure you 
>> have the latest update Hope that helps.
>>
>> Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 March 2017 2:57 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question regarding clean install
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Asked about this before but never got a clear answer.  I have used disk 
>> maker X to create an installer from  10.12, but not sure if this  there is 
>> an easyer way to do this as I want to be able to do a clean install.
>> In other words I want to erase the drive and have it repartisioneed if that 
>> makes any sense.  I have tried recovery disk assistant, but every time I 
>> open it it just tells me recovery disk assisstant has no windows.  What are 
>> people using to do this?  I am hopping to get a new external drive soon and 
>> from there I should be able to do what I want.
>> I just want to be clear.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
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RE: Firmware update for plantronics 5200 series available

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I got the same thing from my phone  but from windows it was finished in 
minutes.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Firmware update for plantronics 5200 series available

The update process on my Mac mini for my Voyager Edge was a problem: four times 
a pop up said the update had been interrupted and I should disconnect the USB 
cable and reconnect it and restart update. Eventually it went through. Whew!! 
Harry

> On 20 Mar 2017, at 06:56, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Cheers for this Scott,
> 
> I'll update mine now.
> 
> SF
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 4:03 AM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Firmware update for plantronics 5200 series available
> 
> Since there are several bluetooth headset enthusiasts and voyager 5200 series 
> users on here I wanted to make you aware software V135 is available for your 
> headset.  I did not find the native upgrade process accessible on the Mac but 
> under windows it went fine.
> 
> New features include additional language support including Korean, different 
> radio management settings, different Skype and Microsoft link features and 
> over all bug fixes.  Sound seems improved in wide band as well but that may 
> be subjective.
> 
> Good luck and enjoy
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