Re: Reading pdf on the mac

[Mike Arrigo]

Uswually preview works quite well, it's an application that comes with the Mac.
> On Apr 18, 2017, at 4:17 PM, jennifer parry  wrote:
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> Hi all
> Does anyone know what is an accessible pdf reader that is good for the Mac 
> with voiceover? 
> thanks
> Jennifer Parry
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Re: Reading pdf on the mac

[Ryan Mann]

There is a built-in app called Preview that reads PDF files.  That
worked good when I tried it.

On 4/18/17, jennifer parry  wrote:
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> Does anyone know what is an accessible pdf reader that is good for the Mac
> with voiceover?
> thanks
> Jennifer Parry
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RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Erik Burggraaf]

I don't know about this on the iPhone, but since we're talking about an 
Android, yes, you can do VPN on a Droid. I think total Commander has an 
extension for that and ES File Explorer might have one as well.


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On April 17, 2017 7:42:27 PM Simon Fogarty  wrote:


Hi Anders,

 Just thinking though, can you setup a mapped drive to a mobile device?

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Hi!
That could be a very intresting sollution.
I will check this out later.
/A

16 apr. 2017 kl. 09:39 skrev Simon Fogarty :

HI Anders,

Apologies for th edelay,

One thing I use which only works for work currently is VPN connection
to the network I'm accessing and then mapped or shared drives between my 
notebook and the machine at work.


Ok this is within windows but I'm pretty sure you can do the same thing 
with the mac os.


The main reason for VPN is to get the secure connection to the correct network.

I can do it with home as well but the VPN isn't working as yet,

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Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend

14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty :

Is this just for file transfers between your devices?

I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.



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Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

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Reading pdf on the mac

[jennifer parry]

Hi all
Does anyone know what is an accessible pdf reader that is good for the Mac with 
voiceover? 
thanks
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Re: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

How do paragraph styles work in word on the mac with voiceover 
when writing research papers or advanced documents??Brian


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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:46 PM -0400, "Larry Thacker Jr." 
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Word works pretty well.  You may run into a little difficulty with complex 
editing tasks, but most things will work fine.  I found tables a little 
inconsistent. I use custom bullets in one of the documents I create, and 
there’s no way to identify with VO which one I’m selecting.  I’ve also 
discovered that things tend to work better with cursor tracking off.  I can’t 
really speak to how well it compares to Pages, since because of compatibility 
and familiarity I have stuck with Word.

Excel is another matter.  Maybe others who have been using the Mac longer would 
be able to work with it, but I found it nearly impossible.  Navigating the 
screen, though cumbersome, is doable.  Editing cells was another matter.  I 
would try to edit one and end up editing a completely different cell.  I gave 
up on it and imported the sheet to Numbers.

Power Point isn’t so great either.  I have rarely gotten VO to speak while 
trying to edit the contents of an item in a slide.  I have not tried it with 
Keynote.  Mostly what I have to do is small edits on someone else’s work, so I 
put up with it in order to insure that the file I save as a .ppsx will work on 
the Windows laptop where it will be used.

I can’t speak to Outlook, though others on this list say that it works well.

As for which is best, I guess that will depend on what you need to do.  
Everyone here will have an opinion.  

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
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> Hello folks,
> What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
> for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the 
> way to go on the mac?  Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Larry Thacker Jr.]

Word works pretty well.  You may run into a little difficulty with complex 
editing tasks, but most things will work fine.  I found tables a little 
inconsistent. I use custom bullets in one of the documents I create, and 
there’s no way to identify with VO which one I’m selecting.  I’ve also 
discovered that things tend to work better with cursor tracking off.  I can’t 
really speak to how well it compares to Pages, since because of compatibility 
and familiarity I have stuck with Word.

Excel is another matter.  Maybe others who have been using the Mac longer would 
be able to work with it, but I found it nearly impossible.  Navigating the 
screen, though cumbersome, is doable.  Editing cells was another matter.  I 
would try to edit one and end up editing a completely different cell.  I gave 
up on it and imported the sheet to Numbers.

Power Point isn’t so great either.  I have rarely gotten VO to speak while 
trying to edit the contents of an item in a slide.  I have not tried it with 
Keynote.  Mostly what I have to do is small edits on someone else’s work, so I 
put up with it in order to insure that the file I save as a .ppsx will work on 
the Windows laptop where it will be used.

I can’t speak to Outlook, though others on this list say that it works well.

As for which is best, I guess that will depend on what you need to do.  
Everyone here will have an opinion.  

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
> for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the 
> way to go on the mac?  Thanks,
> Brian
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Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the way 
to go on the mac?  Thanks,
Brian

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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks, everyone, for all the input. I'll look into getting a Speed Dots fitted 
over the Otterbox.

Simon, yes, the product you described is exactly what Speed Dots is. They make 
a variety of screen protectors that come with dots. Some have dots for all 
keyboard keys, some for just f and j, and so on.

As to the dial pad, I was talking about unlocking the device. If I'm not around 
and the client needs to use the iPad, Touch ID could fail and they'd be stuck. 
Also, Touch ID requires the passcode after a couple days of inactivity, and at 
this early stage, the client is likely to leave the iPad alone for long enough 
to cause such a lockout. I want them to be able to get into the iPad on their 
own, be it with Touch ID or a code.

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> On Apr 17, 2017, at 19:36, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I'm interested in why you would say don't use the dial pad or keyboard dots?
> 
> Surely using the dial pad at least would be a better way to learn than using 
> siri?
> 
> I would think siri is a more advanced option than actually knowing how to 
> dial and besides I'd be surprised if this client wasn't aware of how to use a 
> dial pad 
> Isn't that something most people know these days?
> 
> And learning the keyboard on an IOS 
> Device would be very fine finger work.
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?
> 
> Good morning, Alex.
> I have found the SpeedDots screen protectors to work, but if you introduce 
> too many applications at once, that it can be more confusing. In the case of 
> what you are describing, given the info I have, I would suggest the model 
> without the qwerty keyboard dots on it, since this person has never used a 
> computer, and therefor, probably doesn't understand where the keys are 
> anyway. I would also suggest not using the dial pad unless it is absolutely 
> necissary. Siri can dial numbers, of course, and entering touch tones may be 
> a concept for later once the client has gotten used to activating things on 
> the touch screen.
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> Scott
> 
>> On 4/17/17, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
>> not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on 
>> an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to 
>> explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. 
>> We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
>> having markers on the screen, of course.
>> 
>> My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
>> one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with 
>> iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt 
>> to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole 
>> different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode for an 
>> update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually presents the 
>> numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This client isn't 
>> using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys won't 
>> be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
>> people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to suggest.
>> 
>> For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
>> helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for 
>> the current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some 
>> tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? 
>> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
>> 
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Re: 2-Step Verification

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It's likely one of your Apple TV's, especially if they are Apple TV 2 or Apple 
TV 3's.  My son's Apple TV gives me notifications all the time, and one of 
these days he will actually verify things and these notifications should stop.  
You should be able to enter a code on that device and it will become a trusted 
device, thus stopping these notifications.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 17, 2017, at 23:15, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Scott,

In my case it was just the poiont that the 2ta was being recorded by the 
system, not that the location of the hack was, just the way apple work here I 
guess.

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That generally means someone’s trying to break in to your account if you’re not 
causing it yourself.  I would as Simon mentioned though possibly turning it off 
and then turning it on everything you have and make sure it works.  If you 
continue to see the message and your devices are accounted for it’s likely your 
account was owned somewhere else and the 2 factor is doing it’s job and 
preventing access even though your password is compromised.  Just a guess.

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> My thought would be to turn them all off and then one by one turn them on 
> again until such time as you figure out which one is giving you the prompt.
> 
> I know here in NZ 2 factor authentication is a surprise
> 
> I got the message that someone in a city 1800 Km away from me was accessing 
> my phone, turns out it was 2 factor authentication which made me turn it off 
> again.
> 
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 11:59 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: 2-Step Verification
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Every few days, I get a notice on my iPhone that a device near my city is 
> attempting to login using my Apple Id.  I can either allow or not, but I 
> can’t figure out which device might be requesting permission as I am not 
> using anything else at the time.
> 
> I have several Apple TVs, a Mac and an iPad to go with my iPhone.
> 
> Is there somewhere I can figure out which device is attempting to connect so 
> I can determine whether I want to allow it or not?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: How To Stop Those Annoying, Endless Robocalls To Your Smartphone, USA Today

[E.T.]

   Thanks, good to know it works still.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 4/17/2017 9:47 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hello,
Yes, tapping the power button twice will decline the call and send it straight 
to voicemail.
Gabe


Sent from Gabe's iPhone


On Apr 17, 2017, at 8:10 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Exactly what I do, ignore callers who are not in my contacts. I also press 
the sleep button to stop the ringing. I think pressing sleep twice sends the 
caller straight to voicemail, not sure. A legitimate caller will leave a 
voicemail.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 4/17/2017 7:03 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:
I want my policy to be to remember not to answer every ring with a stranger’s 
number.  If the person really wants to talk, he/she can simply leave a message. 
 But thanks for sharing.  It would probably cut down on the ringing.  I wish 
everybody would show those scammers that their work isn’t worth it!  I read an 
article some time ago about how we can make a little profit by fining marketers 
for calling even when we have Do Not Call registered, but I’m not sure if it’s 
only for landlines.

Gerr!


On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:56 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello All,

I hope you find the following article helpful.

Mark

HOW TO STOP THOSE ANNOYING, ENDLESS ROBOCALLS TO YOUR SMARTPHONE
By Jennifer Jolly, Special for USA Today.

Have you noticed an uptick in those super annoying robocalls, telemarketers,
and scams hitting up your smartphone all hours of the day and night? I have,
and it's driving me nuts. Last month, I had a bogus call to lower my
electricity bill. A few weeks ago, it was a pause after I said hello, then a
woman saying, 'Oh, I'm sorry, I'm adjusting my headset,' before launching
into a sales pitch of some sort. And then there's the daily deluge of
numbers that look legit ' like my daughter's school calling, or a media
outlet from Manhattan ' only to end up being an obvious scam. This is George
Michael,' says a male caller with a heavy accent, 'calling from your online
pharmacy with your diet medication. Talk about adding insult to injury.
According to the Federal Communications Commission , there are nearly 2.4
billion robocalls made every month. That's more than 7'calls per person,
according to new research from the YouMail Robocall Index. At best, the
calls are frustrating. At worst, they're robbing us blind . So what can we
do about it once and for all? Let's start with a little self-education. How
the heck are these criminal-callers getting our cell numbers in the first
place? If you don't post it publicly across social media, use it on shady
shopping sites, or shout it out to every telemarketer who calls ' how is it
getting out there? The Better Business Bureau recommends Googling your own
number. Do it. I'll wait. Was it there? Mine was. It might not be alongside
your name, but chances are it's there, collected by a 'people search'
company like Nuwber that aggregates information from 'White Pages listings,
Public Records and Social Network Information. Thanks to modern technology,
these lists are now easy for cyber scammers to scrape. 'And that's how the
the robo-games begin. Related: Putting your number in the Do Not Call
registry is one step to blocking robocalls. (Photo: Jennifer Jolly for USA
TODAY.) If you haven't already, add your cell number to the National Do Not
Call list . I just went there to verify that I'm on the list and sure
enough, I've been registered since February 2006. So much for that.
Obviously, it doesn't fix the issue all the way around, but it does help
keep legitimate companies from cold-calling you. Sadly for us, the bad-guys
have easy workarounds (like #1). If you're already on the Do Not Call
Registry and still get hit up, report the calls to the FTC , which compiles
the reports and hands out the fines. You can also block them right from your
smartphone and block any spammy texts too. Here's where to block calls on
your iPhone. (Photo: Jennifer Jolly for USA TODAY) On iPhones , tap the
green phone icon on your home screen, select the 'Recents' tab on the bottom
of the screen, then tap the blue 'i' information icon next to the phone
number you want to block. A screen pops up with a bunch of options and at
the very bottom you'll find 'Block This Caller. Tap it and then when the
verification screen appears, confirm your decision. On most Androids , there
are two easy ways to block numbers. If you're on the standard version of
Android 6.0 you can go into your call log and long-press on the number you
want to block, 

Re: How To Stop Those Annoying, Endless Robocalls To Your Smartphone, USA Today

[Jonathan Cohn]

AH, that is much better than what I have been doing: hitting the volume
down button. I will have to retrain my fingers.


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:47 AM Gabe Griffith 
wrote:

> Hello,
> Yes, tapping the power button twice will decline the call and send it
> straight to voicemail.
> Gabe
>
>
> Sent from Gabe's iPhone
>
> > On Apr 17, 2017, at 8:10 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> >
> >   Exactly what I do, ignore callers who are not in my contacts. I also
> press the sleep button to stop the ringing. I think pressing sleep twice
> sends the caller straight to voicemail, not sure. A legitimate caller will
> leave a voicemail.
> >
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> >  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> >  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> >  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> >  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >
> >> On 4/17/2017 7:03 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:
> >> I want my policy to be to remember not to answer every ring with a
> stranger’s number.  If the person really wants to talk, he/she can simply
> leave a message.  But thanks for sharing.  It would probably cut down on
> the ringing.  I wish everybody would show those scammers that their work
> isn’t worth it!  I read an article some time ago about how we can make a
> little profit by fining marketers for calling even when we have Do Not Call
> registered, but I’m not sure if it’s only for landlines.
> >>
> >> Gerr!
> >>
> >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:56 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> I hope you find the following article helpful.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> HOW TO STOP THOSE ANNOYING, ENDLESS ROBOCALLS TO YOUR SMARTPHONE
> >>> By Jennifer Jolly, Special for USA Today.
> >>>
> >>> Have you noticed an uptick in those super annoying robocalls,
> telemarketers,
> >>> and scams hitting up your smartphone all hours of the day and night? I
> have,
> >>> and it's driving me nuts. Last month, I had a bogus call to lower my
> >>> electricity bill. A few weeks ago, it was a pause after I said hello,
> then a
> >>> woman saying, 'Oh, I'm sorry, I'm adjusting my headset,' before
> launching
> >>> into a sales pitch of some sort. And then there's the daily deluge of
> >>> numbers that look legit ' like my daughter's school calling, or a media
> >>> outlet from Manhattan ' only to end up being an obvious scam. This is
> George
> >>> Michael,' says a male caller with a heavy accent, 'calling from your
> online
> >>> pharmacy with your diet medication. Talk about adding insult to injury.
> >>> According to the Federal Communications Commission , there are nearly
> 2.4
> >>> billion robocalls made every month. That's more than 7'calls per
> person,
> >>> according to new research from the YouMail Robocall Index. At best, the
> >>> calls are frustrating. At worst, they're robbing us blind . So what
> can we
> >>> do about it once and for all? Let's start with a little
> self-education. How
> >>> the heck are these criminal-callers getting our cell numbers in the
> first
> >>> place? If you don't post it publicly across social media, use it on
> shady
> >>> shopping sites, or shout it out to every telemarketer who calls ' how
> is it
> >>> getting out there? The Better Business Bureau recommends Googling your
> own
> >>> number. Do it. I'll wait. Was it there? Mine was. It might not be
> alongside
> >>> your name, but chances are it's there, collected by a 'people search'
> >>> company like Nuwber that aggregates information from 'White Pages
> listings,
> >>> Public Records and Social Network Information. Thanks to modern
> technology,
> >>> these lists are now easy for cyber scammers to scrape. 'And that's how
> the
> >>> the robo-games begin. Related: Putting your number in the Do Not Call
> >>> registry is one step to blocking robocalls. (Photo: Jennifer Jolly for
> USA
> >>> TODAY.) If you haven't already, add your cell number to the National
> Do Not
> >>> Call list . I just went there to verify that I'm on the list and sure
> >>> enough, I've been registered since February 2006. So much for that.
> >>> Obviously, it doesn't fix the issue all the way around, but it does
> help
> >>> keep legitimate companies from cold-calling you. Sadly for us, the
> bad-guys
> >>> have easy workarounds (like #1). If you're already on the Do Not Call
> >>> Registry and still get hit up, report the calls to the FTC , which
> compiles
> >>> the reports and hands out the fines. You can also block them right
> from your
> >>> smartphone and block any spammy texts too. Here's where to block calls
> on
> >>> your iPhone. (Photo: Jennifer Jolly for USA TODAY) On iPhones , tap the
> >>> green phone icon on your home screen, select the 'Recents' tab on the
> bottom
> >>> of the screen, then tap the blue 'i' information icon next to the phone
> >>> number you want to block. A screen pops up with a bunch of options and
> at
> >>> 

Re: How To Stop Those Annoying, Endless Robocalls To Your Smartphone, USA Today

[E.T.]

Simon,
   You see the sigs many tack onto their emails. Some read like novels. 
All their social media contacts, phone numbers.


   An email address I got from my provider got more spam than normal 
email list traffic. Was so bad I had to close it and create a new one. 
No more spam because I do not use a single email address for everything.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 4/17/2017 10:11 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Ok, that's bloody scarey stuff,

 I just googled my mobile number and not only is it on there I was the one that 
posted it in an email to another list.
 Hells teeth.
Crazy crazy stff.



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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2017 12:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Stop Those Annoying, Endless Robocalls To Your Smartphone, USA 
Today

Hello All,

I hope you find the following article helpful.

Mark

HOW TO STOP THOSE ANNOYING, ENDLESS ROBOCALLS TO YOUR SMARTPHONE By Jennifer 
Jolly, Special for USA Today.

Have you noticed an uptick in those super annoying robocalls, telemarketers, 
and scams hitting up your smartphone all hours of the day and night? I have, 
and it's driving me nuts. Last month, I had a bogus call to lower my 
electricity bill. A few weeks ago, it was a pause after I said hello, then a 
woman saying, 'Oh, I'm sorry, I'm adjusting my headset,' before launching into 
a sales pitch of some sort. And then there's the daily deluge of numbers that 
look legit ' like my daughter's school calling, or a media outlet from 
Manhattan ' only to end up being an obvious scam. This is George Michael,' says 
a male caller with a heavy accent, 'calling from your online pharmacy with your 
diet medication. Talk about adding insult to injury.
According to the Federal Communications Commission , there are nearly 2.4 
billion robocalls made every month. That's more than 7'calls per person, 
according to new research from the YouMail Robocall Index. At best, the calls 
are frustrating. At worst, they're robbing us blind . So what can we do about 
it once and for all? Let's start with a little self-education. How the heck are 
these criminal-callers getting our cell numbers in the first place? If you 
don't post it publicly across social media, use it on shady shopping sites, or 
shout it out to every telemarketer who calls ' how is it getting out there? The 
Better Business Bureau recommends Googling your own number. Do it. I'll wait. 
Was it there? Mine was. It might not be alongside your name, but chances are 
it's there, collected by a 'people search'
company like Nuwber that aggregates information from 'White Pages listings, 
Public Records and Social Network Information. Thanks to modern technology, 
these lists are now easy for cyber scammers to scrape. 'And that's how the the 
robo-games begin. Related: Putting your number in the Do Not Call registry is 
one step to blocking robocalls. (Photo: Jennifer Jolly for USA
TODAY.) If you haven't already, add your cell number to the National Do Not 
Call list . I just went there to verify that I'm on the list and sure enough, 
I've been registered since February 2006. So much for that.
Obviously, it doesn't fix the issue all the way around, but it does help keep 
legitimate companies from cold-calling you. Sadly for us, the bad-guys have 
easy workarounds (like #1). If you're already on the Do Not Call Registry and 
still get hit up, report the calls to the FTC , which compiles the reports and 
hands out the fines. You can also block them right from your smartphone and 
block any spammy texts too. Here's where to block calls on your iPhone. (Photo: 
Jennifer Jolly for USA TODAY) On iPhones , tap the green phone icon on your 
home screen, select the 'Recents' tab on the bottom of the screen, then tap the 
blue 'i' information icon next to the phone number you want to block. A screen 
pops up with a bunch of options and at the very bottom you'll find 'Block This 
Caller. Tap it and then when the verification screen appears, confirm your 
decision. On most Androids , there are two easy ways to block numbers. If 
you're on the standard version of Android 6.0 you can go into your call log and 
long-press on the number you want to block, then select 'Block number' from the 
pop-up menu. If you're using a version of Android other than the stock version 
(or if you don't know which version you're actually using) you can select 
'Settings' and then 'Call blocking,' then tap 'Add number' and type in the 
number you want to block. Blocked calls on my iPhone using Nomorobo. (Photo: 
Jennifer Jolly/USA
TODAY) There are a handful of apps that promise enough anti-spam ammo to stop 
annoying calls for good. They 

Re: Finally Apple Music is working!

[Mary Otten]

So, how did you do it? Get Apple Music working on your android?
Mary
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 2:56 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> By some great help from Apple Support i got apple music working on my Android 
> phone.
> So now things work as i expect it.
> Though some buttons are not labeled but that’s not a big issue for me.
> /A
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Re: Massive bug in the latest update of twitters app for the mac

[Michael Marshall]

damn, don't think i will bother if it is bing kept to the funders.
> On 18 Apr 2017, at 7:19 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> You can contact them, explaining that you use VoiceOver and would like to 
> help test their app for accessibility. However, I doubt you'll get far, as 
> beta testing was a perk of funding the project. I could easily be wrong, but 
> it seems like they'd keep the testing for the funders, else people may feel 
> cheated out of a perk they could have gotten free. I wouldn't feel that way, 
> but I can see the logic. Either way, it's worth reaching out to them to ask.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 18, 2017, at 01:20, Michael Marshall  > wrote:
> 
>> thanks a lot.
>> can other people become testers?
>>> On 18 Apr 2017, at 5:20 am, Brian Fischler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You may want to listen to the latest episode of my podcast iAccessVO as we 
>>> had one of the developers of Twitterrific on to discuss Project Phoenix 
>>> their Mac client and accessibility. You can listen hear the interview is 
>>> probably 25 or 30 minutes in to the show. 
>>> http://traffic.libsyn.com/iaccessvo/iAVO-039.mp3 
>>> 
 On Apr 7, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Matthew Dyer > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 
 I can conferm that the twitter app is broken as far as shortcuts  goe.  I 
 just use night howal at least for now.  I have twitterific on my ipod tuch 
 so I tend to use that for now.  looking forward to the mac os version.
 
 
 Matthew
 
 
 
 
 On 04/06/2017 07:45 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Honestly, I'm using Night Owl until the second I get the Twitterrific 
> beta. The final version should be out by August, according to the 
> fundraising campaign, so even if you didn't fund enough to get the beta, 
> you don't have too much longer. I figure I've gone this long without the 
> features I want, I can go a bit longer. If I need to quote something, 
> read a quote, etc, I grab my phone. It's not optimal, but it's all there 
> is for now as far as I know.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 18:13, Michael Marshall > > wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> i thought i would start using the official twitter app for the mac 
>> because night owl is missing a lot of new features and tweetbot will not 
>> fix the bug where VO will not read the names of posters.
>> i updated the twitter app on march 22 and found all the keyboard 
>> shortcuts were broken, even trying to activate options through the menus 
>> does nothing.
>> What clients do people use?
>> has anyone elce found the bug that i have?
>> i don't use night owl because it can't do things such as quoting tweets 
>> witch i love to do.
>> 
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
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Finally Apple Music is working!

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
By some great help from Apple Support i got apple music working on my Android 
phone.
So now things work as i expect it.
Though some buttons are not labeled but that’s not a big issue for me.
/A

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Re: Massive bug in the latest update of twitters app for the mac

[Alex Hall]

You can contact them, explaining that you use VoiceOver and would like to help 
test their app for accessibility. However, I doubt you'll get far, as beta 
testing was a perk of funding the project. I could easily be wrong, but it 
seems like they'd keep the testing for the funders, else people may feel 
cheated out of a perk they could have gotten free. I wouldn't feel that way, 
but I can see the logic. Either way, it's worth reaching out to them to ask.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 01:20, Michael Marshall  wrote:
> 
> thanks a lot.
> can other people become testers?
>> On 18 Apr 2017, at 5:20 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> You may want to listen to the latest episode of my podcast iAccessVO as we 
>> had one of the developers of Twitterrific on to discuss Project Phoenix 
>> their Mac client and accessibility. You can listen hear the interview is 
>> probably 25 or 30 minutes in to the show. 
>> http://traffic.libsyn.com/iaccessvo/iAVO-039.mp3
>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Matthew Dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can conferm that the twitter app is broken as far as shortcuts  goe.  I 
>>> just use night howal at least for now.  I have twitterific on my ipod tuch 
>>> so I tend to use that for now.  looking forward to the mac os version.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 04/06/2017 07:45 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 Honestly, I'm using Night Owl until the second I get the Twitterrific 
 beta. The final version should be out by August, according to the 
 fundraising campaign, so even if you didn't fund enough to get the beta, 
 you don't have too much longer. I figure I've gone this long without the 
 features I want, I can go a bit longer. If I need to quote something, read 
 a quote, etc, I grab my phone. It's not optimal, but it's all there is for 
 now as far as I know.
 
 --
 Alex Hall
 
 
 
 
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 18:13, Michael Marshall  
> wrote:
> 
> hey all,
> i thought i would start using the official twitter app for the mac 
> because night owl is missing a lot of new features and tweetbot will not 
> fix the bug where VO will not read the names of posters.
> i updated the twitter app on march 22 and found all the keyboard 
> shortcuts were broken, even trying to activate options through the menus 
> does nothing.
> What clients do people use?
> has anyone elce found the bug that i have?
> i don't use night owl because it can't do things such as quoting tweets 
> witch i love to do.
> 
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
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Re: Looking for a VoiceOver Script

[Des Delgadillo]

Jonathan,
I’ve never used the mini browser but I’ll play around with it today. Shouldn’t 
be too much to learn.
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll download the remote app shortly and let you 
know how that goes.

Des Delgadillo
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> On Apr 17, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I had an ida on this one. There is a iTunes remote by Apple on the IOS App 
> Store. I believe that if you start a playlist with this app controlling your 
> Macintosh, then you can read the up next area of the remote app. 
> 
> I can't assure you of the reliability of the app. While I was trying to learn 
> the remote app, it did crash a few times, but my wife was also playing with 
> my iTunes on the computer, so that might have been reason. If you can't get 
> this to work, I'll attempt to do this via GUI scripting for you, are you OK 
> with using the mini browser? 
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn  
> 
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:57 AM Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> Hi Des,
> 
> Did you try the script I created?  For me, I set Option-n to announce the 
> next song using my Apple Script and it works as you requested.  There's about 
> one tenth of a second break in the current song as the script does it's 
> thing, but the announcement of the next song works.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 22:42, Des Delgadillo  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks all for the feedback.
> I’ll definitely reach out and suggest that this be  added to the scripting 
> dictionary. I feel this is a script other VO users would benefit from.
> 
> 
> Des Delgadillo
> Reporter
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> (562) 652-3415 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If I could just figure out how to access the "Up Next" list, this might be 
>> even more useful.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 18:56, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've modified one of my scripts to do what you're asking.  It's not perfect, 
>> but it does the job.  Basically, when you run it, it skips forward, takes 
>> note of the track, then flips back to the same time as when you left.  
>> You'll hear a very short pause in the current song, but nothing to write 
>> home about.  As always, for best results, it is best to set up a keyboard 
>> commander for this script.  It's named "Announce Next Song" and can be found 
>> in the iTunes folder at the following link.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, neither of those worked. The current playlist doesn't seem to change 
>> as songs are played, and when I started playing my music in random order, 
>> the first item in the current playlist was not the first item to be played.
>> 
>> I also looked at the miniplayer with up next as the view, and if one sets a 
>> hot spot on the table of up-next, it lets you know the hotspot data was 
>> deleted after the song on  the hotspot is played. So the hot spot is 
>> associated with the song in the up-next and not with the play order if that 
>> makes sense. 
>> 
>> So it looks like to Apple You must go!
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>>  
>> 
>> On 12 April 2017 at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> Alex,
>> I noticed two possibilities but cannot test on my current system.
>> 
>> 1. current playlist might actually be the "up next" list.
>> 2. placing a hotspot on the first column first row of the up next list and 
>> then speaking that hot spot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not possible. I just looked 
>> in iTunes' scripting dictionary, and there's no mention of accessing up next 
>> information. This is something you could ask Apple to include 
>> (www.apple.com/feedback ), but it's not 
>> currently available as far as I could tell.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 17:48, Des Delgadillo >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Not sure if there is a Vo script that does this, but I would like to be 
>>> able to hit a custom hot key and have Voiceover speak whatever track is 
>>> going to play next on iTunes. I know 

Re: A Blind legend

[David Chittenden]

It is an audio action role-playing game using binaural sound.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 18/04/2017, at 08:57, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What is a blind legend?
> 
> I know I'm one in my own lunch box but in the case of this post what is a 
> blind legend
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 17 April 2017 11:49 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Blind legend
> 
> It’s available in the app store last I checked.  The only thing that stopped 
> me from buying it, was that I don’t have the cash to shell out for it.
>> On Apr 16, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I'm writing to ask if there is a way to download  A Blind Legend for 
>> either PC or Mac? The only place I can find it is on steam.com. The 
>> caption code is what's stopping me from buying it via an account on 
>> steam.com. Any ideas or alternative sources to buy it from?
>> 
>> Thank you for your help.
>> Vaughn
>> 
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