RE: setting up face recognition

[Simon Fogarty]

Yea can understand that one.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2017 12:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: setting up face recognition

Thanks, Simon.  I may well do that.  I'm likely to get the phone right before 
we travel for the Christmas holidays, so will want it to work smoothly and 
without much fuss.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'd say you'll have no issues.
> I don't think you'll need sighted help,
> 
> It has very good instructions on how or what to do to set it up.
> 
> I was a bit unsure att the start and it was also dark so I set the phone up 
> and used only the pin code for a few days till I could sit back and set it up 
> without worrying about it.
> 
> And that of course is an option also.
> Set it up and wait ttill you feel like you can do it and then set it up.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: setting up face recognition
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just thought I'd start getting ready.  What's the deal with setting up face 
> recognition on the X?  Do I need sighted assistance?  If not, what do I need 
> to do?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Five reasons you'll regret ditching your Apple iPhone for an Android

[M. Taylor]

Five reasons you'll regret ditching your Apple iPhone for an Android
Apple knows how to retain its customers.
By James Hetherington
November 27, 2017 16:55 GMT

It's official, the switch to Android is complete. Nearly three weeks on,
Google's mobile platform has more than lived up to the hype.

But we'd be lying if we said we didn't miss the iPhone. There are still
features you just cannot enjoy as much on Android. Here are the five we miss
the most:

1. iMessage
iMessage uses a notably blue speech bubble. Apple 
It's hard to believe iMessage didn't appear on iOS until 2011, four years
after the iPhone launched. Now, those blue message bubbles are all anyone on
the platform can talk about it. And yes, they are bloody fantastic.
Easy picture messaging, group chats, games, gifs... Apple has really kicked
the platform into overdrive in the past few years. And it should, it's a big
reason a lot of people don't want to leave iPhones or iOS.
Remember worrying about MMS and picture messaging charges? You can probably
thank Apple for making that redundant.

2. Live photos
Live Photos can bring stills to life 
Getting a photo sent to you is great, but when Apple unveiled live photos
for the iPhone 6S it added a whole extra dimension to snaps. Force touch the
picture and it would become "alive", with about 1.5 seconds of footage
recorded before and after you hit the shutter button.
It was easy for Apple to market: kids laughing and smiling, fireworks
exploding... You get the idea. As more and more people upgraded beyond the
iPhone 6s, it almost became the norm.
And although other companies offer alternatives, such as the Pixel 2's
motion photos, it's just not the same since you have to share with
software-compatible friends. There's a theme emerging here: Apple is very
good at locking you in.

3. Apple Pay
So here's the problem with Android Pay, not all banks need to buy in.
Barclays, for example, does not support Android Pay, choosing instead to
push its own app. This is such a major shortcoming.
Apple's "our way or the highway" mentality actually pays off in this
situation. My Apple Pay had accounts from three different banks set up and
it was easy to decide which one to use when purchasing something.
Sorry, no one wants to use two or three different apps to do the same thing.
Know anybody with three different Facebook apps? Didn't think so.

4. The connectivity
Apple's rather talented at locking you into its eco-system. Apple 
Boy oh boy Apple are good at locking you in. When you've got an iPhone,
buying a Macbook eventually becomes routine. You like how your iPhone works,
so it should be smooth for an Apple computer as well. And it is. But then
fast forward to a switch and now you've got a completely different setup to
tackle.
The Macbook doesn't matter too much, the real killer is the Apple Watch. Say
goodbye to notifications on your wrist, Apple Watch categorically does not
work with an Android phone. Ironically, it's still attached snugly to my
wrist. What for you ask? It's still a great fitness tracker without an
iPhone nearby. Plus, I can use Apple Pay.
One last thing: Apple TV. Go and buy yourself a Chromecast because that
little black box won't pick up a thing from your Android device (at least
not for free).

5. Accessories
Apple's Lightning headphones. Photo by Jessica Lewis from Pexels 
So many wasted cords, so many useless headphone adapters. Thanks to the rise
of Bluetooth, this issue is not nearly as bad as it once would have been.
Headphones, speakers and car connections are mostly wireless now anyway.
But that doesn't mean it's not an absolute pain to have countless lightning
cables sitting around for nothing. Come on, everyone has more than one,
don't they.
Then there's those little headphone to lightning adapters, they're all
useless now as well. Bringing back the theme, once you're in, Apple make
every effort to keep you locked down.

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How to Switch from the iPhone to the Pixel 2

[M. Taylor]

How to Switch from the iPhone to the Pixel 2
By Patrick Lucas, Austin Today

Anyone using an iPhone might think it's difficult to switch to an Android
device. But Google's latest smartphone, the Pixel 2, alleviates the anxiety
of switching by taking care of all the annoying bits, like copying your
photos or contacts. You'll need to change some settings before you can
transfer from one operating system to the next, but the entire process is a
lot less stressful than importing and exporting data you might have trouble
properly identifying or moving (everyone hates VCF files). 
What You'll Need:

To seamlessly transfer your data from iOS to Android, you'll need to get
your equipment in order. That means the computer that manages your iTunes
backups, your iPhone, a USB to Lightning cable, and your Pixel 2 equipment.

Bundled with the Pixel 2 (and 2 XL) is a Quick Switch Adapter, a USB-C to
USB-A adapter that lets you connect your Pixel 2, with its USB-C port, to an
iOS device using a traditional USB-A to Lightning cable. You'll need that.
Inside the box is a SIM card ejector tool. You'll need that, too. 

First, Disable iMessage
Before you switch from one phone to another, you'll need to turn off
iMessage. This will ensure your texts won't end up in message purgatory,
where texts sent by Android users switching from iOS end up undelivered.
Visit Settings, tap Messages, and toggle off iMessage. Simple!

Decrypt Your iPhone
The amount of data transferred to your Pixel 2 will be affected if you've
enabled backup encryption for your iOS device. To alleviate the issue,
you'll need to disable backup encryption by connecting your iOS device to a
computer running iTunes. Uncheck "Encrypt iPhone Backup" on Summary page,
and give iTunes a few minutes to backup your iPhone without encryption. 

Switch Your SIM, Charge Your Phones
You should switch out your iPhone's SIM after disabling iMessage and
decrypting your iPhone to avoid any complications. You can use the Pixel 2's
included SIM removal tool to pop open your iPhone's SIM and insert it into
your Pixel 2. You are now free to turn on both of your devices. Ensure both
have been charged to at least 50%, or else you won't be able to initiate the
transfer process. Connect your Pixel 2 to your preferred Wi-Fi network. Then
follow the Pixel 2's on-screen prompts. 

Make a Google Account, Select Your Data
If you're switching to Android, you're going to want to create a Google
account to store all that transferred data. After you create one (or sign in
with your current Google account) you can pick and choose which bits of data
to transfer, like photos, messages, calendars, and contacts. Or just copy it
all and say goodbye to your walled garden. Behold: your new, Android-based
walled garden, complete with AirDrop and Bluetooth-powered headphone-pairing
alternatives! 

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Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen Instead of Growing the Screen to Fill the Body

[M. Taylor]

Apple Should Have Shrunk the iPhone around the Screen,
Instead They Grew the Screen to Fill the Body.

By Robert Perez.

Dennis Green at Business Insider offered an explanation for why he's decided
to stop using the iPhone X and go back to a Plus, and it brings up a lot of
feelings I've had about Apple's (AAPL) new iPhone lately.

But there's really only one flaw that really matters to me: the phone is
impossible for me to use with one hand.

Though the phone is only a bit bigger than the iPhone 6, 7, and 8, the
bezel-less screen makes for an enormous size increase.

The new gestures required by the notch mean there's no way to look at my
notifications with only one hand, or access the control center. Those are
pretty essential functions, and it drastically limits the usability of the
phone when I'm on the go or when I only have one hand free.- Dennis Green,
Business Insider

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. The narrow aspect ratio of the
iPhone X is to make one-handed use easier but the user interface makes two
hands a necessity. I swing back and forth between upgrading to an 8 Plus or
an iPhone X.  I'm torn between the Plus's wider aspect ratio or getting the
iPhone X's awesome FaceID. 

I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone you can possibly get, but
the size was somewhat of a compromise. I constantly come back to the fact
that I wish Apple had shrunk the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus so that the the screen
sizes had remained unchanged and the bezels around them had shrunk. 

If Apple had shrunk the phone body around the 4.7" screen, then one-handed
use on the whole screen would have remained possible for most people.
Further, a lot of SE owners, like my wife, would have finally been able to
upgrade to the 4.7" screen. This group would have been ecstatic.

Also, a lot of us users of the 5.5" Plus prefer this wide aspect ratio
because the extra width makes everything feel more spacious. Video detail is
easier to see and fonts everywhere are bigger. The 5.8" screen on the X is
actually larger and can physically display more data, but due to the narrow
width, it looks cramped in comparison to the 5.5" Plus. 

I compared my phone to my co-workers X and found some interesting
differences. All the text and pictures on my 7 Plus were larger. You can see
much more content on the X but everything is much smaller. Apple seems to be
making an attempt to mitigate this by making the fonts render thicker. The
letters look much bolder than on my 7 Plus. It does help somewhat but
doesn't change the fact that the letters on the 7 Plus are significantly
larger and easier to read. I can read the 7 Plus without zooming in on the
text. I can't do that on the X, which renders its size advantage moot. 




My problem with the Plus has always been the length of the phone, not the
width. It is difficult to fit into pockets, will physically hurt your hip in
tight pants, and is prone to flipping back due to the higher center of
gravity. If Apple had removed the home button and shrunk all the bezels
around the 5.5" screen, I would have been overjoyed. The 5.5" screen is
4.75" tall. If Apple shrunk the bezels around this size screen, the phone
would be shorter than the iPhone 8, which is 5.45" tall. Can you imagine the
Plus sized iPhone being shorter than the iPhone 8? That would be awesome.

Apple tried to split the difference between the 7 and 7 Plus, but for a lot
of Plus owners it feels like a step backwards. If Apple had shrunk the
bezels on the 4.7" and 5.5" phones, everyone would have been happy. A lot of
4.7" owners would have upgraded to the 5.5" phone, but this would have been
offset by 4.0" SE owners upgrading to the 4.7" phone. 

If Apple had simply shrunk the bezels on their screens, one-handed use would
have been possible on the 4.7" phone and easier on a 5.5" screen than the
current tall 5.8" screen. I thought the benefit of a narrow phone was that
it was easier to use one-handed? If I need to use two hands, I might as well
get the benefit of a wider screen. 




Now that Apple has started down the road of tall narrow screens, I'm not so
sure that the rumored "X Plus" next year is going be the phone that I want.
It'll probably be an improvement over the current 5.8" X, but it's not going
to be the small-bezel 5.5" screen that I want. There's no way that Apple
could make the X Plus screen smaller than the X. That means that any X Plus
screen is probably going to be even taller and harder to use. Apple will
probably make an X Plus phone that is no shorter in height than the 8 Plus
or maybe even slightly taller. Again, not what I want. Height is the worst
thing about the current Plus. 

I still think that the iPhone X is the best phone on the market, bar none.
It has the best screen quality, and I'm seriously wanting that optical 2x
camera lens with optical image stabilization. Also, as a runner who can
never get TouchID to work after a sweaty summer run, to me FaceID looks like
a Godsend. I just wish that 

Re: Amazon Web Dialog Interference

['Peggy' via MacVisionaries]

I have the same problem. Hitting the close button doesn't help.
Peggy and Dixie Marie

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2017, at 9:24 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Christine,

I just performed a couple of searches on Amazon.com, after reading your post.

I receive no such web dialog box, as described in your post.  

I am using Safari on Mac OS High Sierra.

Perhaps it might be useful to clear your website cookies and temp files.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Web Dialog Interference

I apologize if someone has brought this up already, but every single time I try 
shopping on Amazon lately, a web dialog keeps coming up; there’s a close 
button, but it doesn’t help. It is a nonstop occurrence, preventing me from 
going through search results or from navigating the screen. Is anyone else 
experiencing this, and does anyone know if there is a way to stop this idiocy? 
Thanks much.
Christine

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Re: How to clear up some space on my startup Disk

[E.T.]

Sharon,
   Sounds like you need to do some serious housekeeping.

   Ok, first, empty the trash. Until you do so, the space is not reclaimed.

   Then, open VMware Fusion, go to its preferences, Under the General 
tab find the clean disk button to reclaim the VM's space. This should be 
done on a regular basis.


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out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why’s he
constantly repairing and complaining? No, there’s one thing the Bible
makes clear: The biblical God is a sloppy manufacturer. He’s not
good at design, he’s not good at execution. He’d be out of business,
if there was any competition.” –Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/27/2017 4:05 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:

Hi,

I’m having trouble with using my Windows 10 virtual machine on my Mac Book Air, 
apparently still in El Capitan and not the latest VMWare Fusion update.  I was 
told that the startup disk is almost full so VMWare won’t always let me use it. 
 I went into library/app support/, etc, and deleted the documents that were 
there.  Now I don’t see all those folders or the direct path folders are empty. 
 What more can I do?

Thanks,



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How to clear up some space on my startup Disk

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

I’m having trouble with using my Windows 10 virtual machine on my Mac Book Air, 
apparently still in El Capitan and not the latest VMWare Fusion update.  I was 
told that the startup disk is almost full so VMWare won’t always let me use it. 
 I went into library/app support/, etc, and deleted the documents that were 
there.  Now I don’t see all those folders or the direct path folders are empty. 
 What more can I do?

Thanks,

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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, that's awesome!  Can't wait to hear what you think!
Cheers,
Donna


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  
> When I ordered my 10 I was told it would ship between December 8 to 15. I got 
> a notice the other day saying I should get it by the end of this week! I can 
> hardly wait.
>  
> Eileen
>  
>  
> From: Donna Goodin <>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:22 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: Well, I caved. lol
>  
> Hey Kliph,
> 
> It's really good to hear your rave reviews.  I do agree, when I saw the phone 
> on Saturday, I was surprised by how much I liked the form factor.
> 
> It's supposed to ship on Dec 13, keeping fingers crossed that it ships a 
> little earlier. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> > 
> > I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day.  I didn’t get it from my 
> > carrier though, I have a friend who is a verizon customer, he added a line 
> > to his account, and gave me the phone.  Of course I am paying him for it, 
> > but T-Mobile only opened the doors on launch day to tell customers they 
> > didn’t have any.  I wasn’t going to get it, but when I got that device in 
> > my hands?  It was a no brainer, it felt like a shiny new catalack with no 
> > miles on it!  It felt so good in my hands, and the design of it?  Man this 
> > phone is nice.  ANd the new gestures to me now are 2nd nature just like on 
> > my iPHone7 and before.  I see that the wait times are down to 1 to 2 weeks, 
> > instead of 5 weeks.  That is good for anyone who wants one.
> >> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Donna,
> >> 
> >> That's wonderful.  What a marvelous Christmas present.  
> >> 
> >> Yesterday, two friends and I walked into an Apple Store.  Quite 
> >> off-handedly, one of my friends asked if they had any iPhone 10s in stock. 
> >>  All three of us were expecting the Apple employee to say, "No."  However, 
> >> she said,  "Yes."  After the initial shock wore off, both of my friends, a 
> >> husband and wife team, decided to buy two devices, one for each of them.  
> >> 
> >> We had a lot of fun, setting up their new phones; and I just spoke to 
> >> them, today, and they are totally in love with their iPhone 10s.
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:56 AM
> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
> >> 
> >> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
> >> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen 
> >> Touch, and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the 
> >> wall more than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ 
> >> store, he told me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for 
> >> Christmas. So, given the iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure 
> >> if I'd bought an iPhone SE, which was the other option, it would have cost 
> >> as much, and I would have gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
> >> 
> >> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
> >> Cheers, Donna
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Re: Punctuation issue when you change the language

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

I don’t know whether you can do anything about this using third-party voices, 
but with the ones from the appstore, I haven’t found a way to do this.
I haven’t yet installed High Sierra on my personal computer, but the one we use 
for teaching has it and I hate the way it handles language switching.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 27 Nov 2017, at 15:01, Alex Yefetov  wrote:
> 
> Dear MacVisionaries,
> I use several languages on my Mac (High Sierra). 
> When I switch to the language other that my default (system) language , the 
> new synthesizer still tries to pronounce all the punctuation in system 
> language. Sounds sometimes really weird. Is there any way to change it? E.g. 
> in Jaws there is a choice how every voice will be reading the punctuation: in 
> its own or in system language. I'm sure there should be such an option in 
> MacOS, too...
> Thanks is advance. Any input will be highly appreciated!
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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Eileen Scrivani]

Donna, 

When I ordered my 10 I was told it would ship between December 8 to 15. I got a 
notice the other day saying I should get it by the end of this week! I can 
hardly wait.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Well, I caved. lol

Hey Kliph,

It's really good to hear your rave reviews.  I do agree, when I saw the phone 
on Saturday, I was surprised by how much I liked the form factor.

It's supposed to ship on Dec 13, keeping fingers crossed that it ships a little 
earlier. :)
Cheers,
Donna



> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day.  I didn’t get it from my 
> carrier though, I have a friend who is a verizon customer, he added a line to 
> his account, and gave me the phone.  Of course I am paying him for it, but 
> T-Mobile only opened the doors on launch day to tell customers they didn’t 
> have any.  I wasn’t going to get it, but when I got that device in my hands?  
> It was a no brainer, it felt like a shiny new catalack with no miles on it!  
> It felt so good in my hands, and the design of it?  Man this phone is nice.  
> ANd the new gestures to me now are 2nd nature just like on my iPHone7 and 
> before.  I see that the wait times are down to 1 to 2 weeks, instead of 5 
> weeks.  That is good for anyone who wants one.
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> That's wonderful.  What a marvelous Christmas present.  
>> 
>> Yesterday, two friends and I walked into an Apple Store.  Quite 
>> off-handedly, one of my friends asked if they had any iPhone 10s in stock.  
>> All three of us were expecting the Apple employee to say, "No."  However, 
>> she said,  "Yes."  After the initial shock wore off, both of my friends, a 
>> husband and wife team, decided to buy two devices, one for each of them.  
>> 
>> We had a lot of fun, setting up their new phones; and I just spoke to them, 
>> today, and they are totally in love with their iPhone 10s.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
>> 
>> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
>> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen Touch, 
>> and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the wall more 
>> than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ store, he told 
>> me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for Christmas. So, given the 
>> iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure if I'd bought an iPhone 
>> SE, which was the other option, it would have cost as much, and I would have 
>> gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
>> 
>> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
>> Cheers, Donna
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Re: Amazon Web Dialog Interference

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Christine,

Yes I'm getting the same thing just after the first product in the search! :(
I remember when this came up a while back someone suggested changing something 
in the develop menu but can't remember what?
I'm using a mac book air and Sierra.
Need solutions?
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Nov 27, 2017, at 5:11 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> I guess that is what I’ll have to do. I cleared cookies and it is still 
> happening. It seems to be related to reviews: there is a ratings distribution 
> for number of stars and a close button, but they never disappear. I am using 
> the Safari and High Sierra; perhaps I’ll try another browser. Glad to know it 
> isn’t just me. :)
> Christine
> 
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 10:42 PM, ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  I had the same problem and only solved it by using the mobile site. 
>> Amazon.com/access.  Or in my case smile.amazon.com/access. 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 21:24, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Christine,
>> 
>> I just performed a couple of searches on Amazon.com, after reading your post.
>> 
>> I receive no such web dialog box, as described in your post.  
>> 
>> I am using Safari on Mac OS High Sierra.
>> 
>> Perhaps it might be useful to clear your website cookies and temp files.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:16 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Amazon Web Dialog Interference
>> 
>> I apologize if someone has brought this up already, but every single time I 
>> try shopping on Amazon lately, a web dialog keeps coming up; there’s a close 
>> button, but it doesn’t help. It is a nonstop occurrence, preventing me from 
>> going through search results or from navigating the screen. Is anyone else 
>> experiencing this, and does anyone know if there is a way to stop this 
>> idiocy? Thanks much.
>> Christine
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Re: Amazon Web Dialog Interference

[Robert Cole]

Turn off cursor tracking sometimes this will help

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> I apologize if someone has brought this up already, but every single time I 
> try shopping on Amazon lately, a web dialog keeps coming up; there’s a close 
> button, but it doesn’t help. It is a nonstop occurrence, preventing me from 
> going through search results or from navigating the screen. Is anyone else 
> experiencing this, and does anyone know if there is a way to stop this 
> idiocy? Thanks much.
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Punctuation issue when you change the language

[Alex Yefetov]

Dear MacVisionaries,
I use several languages on my Mac (High Sierra). 
When I switch to the language other that my default (system) language , the 
new synthesizer still tries to pronounce all the punctuation in system 
language. Sounds sometimes really weird. Is there any way to change it? 
E.g. in Jaws there is a choice how every voice will be reading the 
punctuation: in its own or in system language. I'm sure there should be 
such an option in MacOS, too...
Thanks is advance. Any input will be highly appreciated!

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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Donna Goodin]

Oh, wow, really? No, I didn't know that. That's cool!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Oh and Donna,
> 
> If you haven't seen the feature before,
> 
> Once you have done the setup of your language and region for your new phone,
> It has a quick setup assistant  which asks you to just put your old phone or 
> 7+ beside and it will sync a number of things between the devices,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Simon F
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:35 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Well, I caved. lol
> 
> I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day.  I didn’t get it from my 
> carrier though, I have a friend who is a verizon customer, he added a line to 
> his account, and gave me the phone.  Of course I am paying him for it, but 
> T-Mobile only opened the doors on launch day to tell customers they didn’t 
> have any.  I wasn’t going to get it, but when I got that device in my hands?  
> It was a no brainer, it felt like a shiny new catalack with no miles on it!  
> It felt so good in my hands, and the design of it?  Man this phone is nice.  
> ANd the new gestures to me now are 2nd nature just like on my iPHone7 and 
> before.  I see that the wait times are down to 1 to 2 weeks, instead of 5 
> weeks.  That is good for anyone who wants one.
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> That's wonderful.  What a marvelous Christmas present.  
>> 
>> Yesterday, two friends and I walked into an Apple Store.  Quite 
>> off-handedly, one of my friends asked if they had any iPhone 10s in stock.  
>> All three of us were expecting the Apple employee to say, "No."  However, 
>> she said,  "Yes."  After the initial shock wore off, both of my friends, a 
>> husband and wife team, decided to buy two devices, one for each of them.  
>> 
>> We had a lot of fun, setting up their new phones; and I just spoke to them, 
>> today, and they are totally in love with their iPhone 10s.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
>> 
>> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
>> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen Touch, 
>> and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the wall more 
>> than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ store, he told 
>> me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for Christmas. So, given the 
>> iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure if I'd bought an iPhone 
>> SE, which was the other option, it would have cost as much, and I would have 
>> gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
>> 
>> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
>> Cheers, Donna
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Re: setting up face recognition

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Simon.  I may well do that.  I'm likely to get the phone right before 
we travel for the Christmas holidays, so will want it to work smoothly and 
without much fuss.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'd say you'll have no issues.
> I don't think you'll need sighted help,
> 
> It has very good instructions on how or what to do to set it up.
> 
> I was a bit unsure att the start and it was also dark so I set the phone up 
> and used only the pin code for a few days till I could sit back and set it up 
> without worrying about it.
> 
> And that of course is an option also.
> Set it up and wait ttill you feel like you can do it and then set it up.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: setting up face recognition
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just thought I'd start getting ready.  What's the deal with setting up face 
> recognition on the X?  Do I need sighted assistance?  If not, what do I need 
> to do?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Donna Goodin]

Are you kidding? I'm going to toss that iPod onto a glorious bonfire!  I can't 
tell you how much it's been getting on my nerves, but I don't have a lot of 
patience for slow technology.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> What would you do if we told you we all lied and we hate our ten?
> 
> But hey I'm not going to do that.
> 
> Great job hope once it arrives you really enjoy it.
> 
> And don't throw your iPod  they do still have use.
> 
> 
> Good luck and let us know if you have trouble and how of course you get on.
> 
> Simon F
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:56 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
> 
> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen Touch, 
> and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the wall more 
> than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ store, he told 
> me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for Christmas. So, given the 
> iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure if I'd bought an iPhone SE, 
> which was the other option, it would have cost as much, and I would have 
> gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
> 
> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
> Cheers, Donna
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Re: Well, I caved. lol

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Kliph,

It's really good to hear your rave reviews.  I do agree, when I saw the phone 
on Saturday, I was surprised by how much I liked the form factor.

It's supposed to ship on Dec 13, keeping fingers crossed that it ships a little 
earlier. :)
Cheers,
Donna



> On Nov 26, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> I was lucky enough to get mine on launch day.  I didn’t get it from my 
> carrier though, I have a friend who is a verizon customer, he added a line to 
> his account, and gave me the phone.  Of course I am paying him for it, but 
> T-Mobile only opened the doors on launch day to tell customers they didn’t 
> have any.  I wasn’t going to get it, but when I got that device in my hands?  
> It was a no brainer, it felt like a shiny new catalack with no miles on it!  
> It felt so good in my hands, and the design of it?  Man this phone is nice.  
> ANd the new gestures to me now are 2nd nature just like on my iPHone7 and 
> before.  I see that the wait times are down to 1 to 2 weeks, instead of 5 
> weeks.  That is good for anyone who wants one.
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:31 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> That's wonderful.  What a marvelous Christmas present.  
>> 
>> Yesterday, two friends and I walked into an Apple Store.  Quite 
>> off-handedly, one of my friends asked if they had any iPhone 10s in stock.  
>> All three of us were expecting the Apple employee to say, "No."  However, 
>> she said,  "Yes."  After the initial shock wore off, both of my friends, a 
>> husband and wife team, decided to buy two devices, one for each of them.  
>> 
>> We had a lot of fun, setting up their new phones; and I just spoke to them, 
>> today, and they are totally in love with their iPhone 10s.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:56 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Well, I caved. lol
>> 
>> Before the X was released, I had been thinking I would buy it, so that I 
>> could keep my 7 and use it as an iPod.  My current iPod is a 5th Gen Touch, 
>> and it's gotten so slow that I've come close to hurling it at the wall more 
>> than once.  Last night, after my husband and I went to the VZ store, he told 
>> me that if I wanted the X, he'd give it to me for Christmas. So, given the 
>> iPod situation, I decided to go for it.  I figure if I'd bought an iPhone 
>> SE, which was the other option, it would have cost as much, and I would have 
>> gotten a device that was inferior to my 7.
>> 
>> So, after all my posts yesterday, here I am, waiting for my X to ship. lol 
>> Cheers, Donna
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Re: Amazon Web Dialog Interference

[Christine Grassman]

I guess that is what I’ll have to do. I cleared cookies and it is still 
happening. It seems to be related to reviews: there is a ratings distribution 
for number of stars and a close button, but they never disappear. I am using 
the Safari and High Sierra; perhaps I’ll try another browser. Glad to know it 
isn’t just me. :)
Christine


> On Nov 26, 2017, at 10:42 PM, ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I had the same problem and only solved it by using the mobile site. 
> Amazon.com/access .  Or in my case 
> smile.amazon.com/access . 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 21:24, M. Taylor > 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Christine,
> 
> I just performed a couple of searches on Amazon.com , 
> after reading your post.
> 
> I receive no such web dialog box, as described in your post.  
> 
> I am using Safari on Mac OS High Sierra.
> 
> Perhaps it might be useful to clear your website cookies and temp files.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Amazon Web Dialog Interference
> 
> I apologize if someone has brought this up already, but every single time I 
> try shopping on Amazon lately, a web dialog keeps coming up; there’s a close 
> button, but it doesn’t help. It is a nonstop occurrence, preventing me from 
> going through search results or from navigating the screen. Is anyone else 
> experiencing this, and does anyone know if there is a way to stop this 
> idiocy? Thanks much.
> Christine
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Re: Seventh Heaven Apples, Anyone?

[David Chittenden]

This is an Australian plan with Telstra.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Nov 2017, at 16:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Is this plan an NZ plan or Austrailian?
> I was going to look at this but Vodafone seemingly are looking at removing 
> that option.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 11:16 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seventh Heaven Apples, Anyone?
> 
> Yes, I found the upgrade to be worth it. Then again, my plan gives me a new 
> phone upgrade once every 12 months. I upgraded from an iPhone 7. If I wait 
> two years, I get to keep the old phone. If I upgrade, I need to trade the old 
> phone in.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> 
>> On 26 Nov 2017, at 22:39, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Good to know, David, thanks.  Just curious, did you find the upgrade to the 
>> 10 worth it? If yes, what were you upgrading from?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 6:05 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find the new gesture to be easy now. I just start sliding my finger up 
>>> from the lightning port. I merely needed to learn to do so fairly quickly..
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 26 Nov 2017, at 03:10, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hey, Simon,
 
 The size wouldn't bother me, as I've never had a Plus phone.  So you 
 really don't miss the home button? I like the fact that with it being 
 tactile, I can press it without thinking about where I am on the screen, 
 etc.  Is the gesture that replaces it easy to invoke?
 
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Nov 25, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI Mark and Donna,
> 
> If I was to have a dislike for the x it has to now after a couple 
> of weeks, Be the size of it.
> 
> For the passed 3 years or so I've had + sized phones,
> 
> Now the x is the size of the 7  I am starting more to notice the 
> difference but it's growing on me.
> 
> I still look forward to what comes next year
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 1:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seventh Heaven Apples, Anyone?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> You know, I totally get why this is the case.  I've always been one who 
> wanted the latest and greatest iPhone, but I've decided to sit this year 
> out and hang on to my iPhone 7.  There are several reasons for this 
> decision.  the 8 just doesn't feel like much of a step up, so there 
> doesn't seem much point.  As for the X, first off, the price is 
> ridiculous. Though I'm curious about face  ID, I don't feel like I 
> absolutely have to have it.  I also like having a home button, and would 
> prefer not to give that up until I have to, and yes, I suppose that 
> within a year or two I will have to.  Finally, my hunch is that the phone 
> that Apple releases next year (10S?) will be an improved version of the 
> X, with many of the rough edges smoothed out, and probably a bit more 
> speed, if Apple's past history is predictive here.  I'm also betting that 
> once this model and it's technology are no longer new, the price will 
> drop significantly.
> 
> Just curious, after the 7, what was the most common answer?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 9:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Today, Friday, November 24, 2017 is/was Black Friday, here in the US.  
>> This is the busiest shopping day of the year, for us.
>> 
>> As it turned out, I went to two very large shopping centers today, 
>> each having an Apple Store.
>> 
>> At both locations, I was stunned to see so, so many people in 
>> lines, outside the stores, waiting to buy new iPhones. There were 
>> lines for other devices, also but the iPhone lines were definitely the 
>> longest.
>> 
>> As I passed by the lines, I decided to query some of the people to 
>> see which phone they were going to purchase.
>> 
>> It was strange, I only had to walk up to one or two people before 
>> everyone else began volunteering their choices.  Now that I think 
>> about it, these stores were near Hollywood and, no doubt, some of