Re: Ellipsis sign

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Alternatively, Option+the semicolon key Will make the elypsis sign. Hope that 
helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2018, at 8:59 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Three periods make up the ellipsis sign.
> 
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
>> On 5/17/2018 6:55 AM, Stan ZA wrote:
>> Hi One&All,
>> I am wanting to make a “shortcut” to save attachments in mail, but I do not 
>> know how to type or make the “ellipsis sign”, can one please help.
>> Thanks.
>> Stan ZA
>> amista...@gmail.com 
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Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Glad it worked.  All that practice, you must be able to do it with your eyes 
closed ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2018, at 10:27, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi Tim. I reinstalled high sierra yet again, turning off file vault
this time. Thanks for the info!

Cameron.





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On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, odd indeed.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 17, 2018, at 09:10, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi. it's odd. It accepts my user name but not my password even though
> I remember exactly what it was because I had to type it in twice
> during setup.
> 
> Oh well, I guess I'll do a clean install once more from the flash
> drive and make sure to not enable file vault.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
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> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The beeps as you enter your password is normal.  If you don't get the
>> triple
>> beep after you press return, then it didn't like your password.  Try
>> again.
>> Make sure caps-lock is not on.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 08:44, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> That makes sense.
>> 
>> Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
>> get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
>> each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
>> hit enter, there's nothing.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
>>> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
>>> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case,
>>> no
>>> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two
>>> beeps,
>>> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then
>>> hear
>>> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear
>>> and
>>> it's ready to go as usual.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
>>> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to
>>> pay
>>> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do
>>> not
>>> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these
>>> installers,
>>> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit
>>> ball
>>> :).
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
>>> 
>>> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
>>> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
>>> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
>>> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
>>> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
>>> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
>>> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
>>>

Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi Tim. I reinstalled high sierra yet again, turning off file vault
this time. Thanks for the info!

Cameron.





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On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, odd indeed.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 17, 2018, at 09:10, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
>
> Hi. it's odd. It accepts my user name but not my password even though
> I remember exactly what it was because I had to type it in twice
> during setup.
>
> Oh well, I guess I'll do a clean install once more from the flash
> drive and make sure to not enable file vault.
>
> Cameron.
>
> 
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> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The beeps as you enter your password is normal.  If you don't get the
>> triple
>> beep after you press return, then it didn't like your password.  Try
>> again.
>> Make sure caps-lock is not on.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On May 17, 2018, at 08:44, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> That makes sense.
>>
>> Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
>> get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
>> each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
>> hit enter, there's nothing.
>>
>> Cameron.
>>
>>
>> 
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>> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
>>> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
>>> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case,
>>> no
>>> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two
>>> beeps,
>>> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then
>>> hear
>>> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear
>>> and
>>> it's ready to go as usual.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
>>> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to
>>> pay
>>> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do
>>> not
>>> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these
>>> installers,
>>> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit
>>> ball
>>> :).
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
>>>
>>> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
>>> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
>>> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
>>> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
>>> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
>>> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
>>> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
>>> screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.
>>>
>>> so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
>>> bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.
>>>
>>> Again the install went fine, I setup eve

Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, odd indeed.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2018, at 09:10, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi. it's odd. It accepts my user name but not my password even though
I remember exactly what it was because I had to type it in twice
during setup.

Oh well, I guess I'll do a clean install once more from the flash
drive and make sure to not enable file vault.

Cameron.




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On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The beeps as you enter your password is normal.  If you don't get the triple
> beep after you press return, then it didn't like your password.  Try again.
> Make sure caps-lock is not on.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 17, 2018, at 08:44, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> That makes sense.
> 
> Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
> get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
> each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
> hit enter, there's nothing.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
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> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
>> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
>> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case, no
>> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two beeps,
>> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then
>> hear
>> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear
>> and
>> it's ready to go as usual.
>> 
>> 
>> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
>> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to
>> pay
>> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do
>> not
>> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these
>> installers,
>> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit
>> ball
>> :).
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
>> 
>> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
>> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
>> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
>> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
>> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
>> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
>> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
>> screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.
>> 
>> so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
>> bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.
>> 
>> Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
>> loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
>> notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
>> iMessage on a new mac.
>> 
>> I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
>> got a single beep and then nothing.
>> 
>> I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
>> again, the exact same thing happened.
>> 
>> When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
>> partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.
>> 
>> I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any
>> ideas?
>> 
>> The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
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Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. it's odd. It accepts my user name but not my password even though
I remember exactly what it was because I had to type it in twice
during setup.

Oh well, I guess I'll do a clean install once more from the flash
drive and make sure to not enable file vault.

Cameron.




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On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The beeps as you enter your password is normal.  If you don't get the triple
> beep after you press return, then it didn't like your password.  Try again.
> Make sure caps-lock is not on.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 17, 2018, at 08:44, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> That makes sense.
>
> Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
> get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
> each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
> hit enter, there's nothing.
>
> Cameron.
>
>
> 
> 
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> On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
>> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
>> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case, no
>> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two beeps,
>> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then
>> hear
>> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear
>> and
>> it's ready to go as usual.
>>
>>
>> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
>> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to
>> pay
>> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do
>> not
>> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these
>> installers,
>> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit
>> ball
>> :).
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
>>
>> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
>> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
>> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
>> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
>> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
>> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
>> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
>> screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.
>>
>> so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
>> bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.
>>
>> Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
>> loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
>> notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
>> iMessage on a new mac.
>>
>> I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
>> got a single beep and then nothing.
>>
>> I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
>> again, the exact same thing happened.
>>
>> When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
>> partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.
>>
>> I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any
>> ideas?
>>
>> The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cameron.
>>
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Re: Updating iCloud Keychain

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The easiest way to do this is to just enter the new password in the field on 
apple.com, and Safari will ask if you'd like to update it.  Press on the Update 
button and it will be updated.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 16, 2018, at 16:30, E.T.  wrote:

  Today I signed out and back in on my iPhone. In the process I found a 
password autofill option. That gave me apple,com among other accounts. In 
looking at apple,com  I discovered it had an old password. How can I update 
that in Keychain Access?

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Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The beeps as you enter your password is normal.  If you don't get the triple 
beep after you press return, then it didn't like your password.  Try again.  
Make sure caps-lock is not on.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2018, at 08:44, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi.

That makes sense.

Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
hit enter, there's nothing.

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> Hi,
> 
> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case, no
> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two beeps,
> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then hear
> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear and
> it's ready to go as usual.
> 
> 
> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to pay
> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do not
> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these installers,
> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit ball
> :).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
> 
> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
> screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.
> 
> so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
> bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.
> 
> Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
> loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
> notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
> iMessage on a new mac.
> 
> I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
> got a single beep and then nothing.
> 
> I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
> again, the exact same thing happened.
> 
> When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
> partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.
> 
> I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any ideas?
> 
> The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
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oddity with google play music app

[aliFaisal]

Hello everyone,
I’m having a strange issue with the google play music app for IOS. I’m trying 
to play certain songs from my library, but I keep getting the message, can’t 
play now, try again later. I even tried uninstalling, and reinstalling the app 
to see if that fixes it, but sadly it hasn’t.
Does anyone know what could be causing this, and a possible solution?
This is running on the latest build of IOS 11, on an iPhone running voiceover.

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Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi.

That makes sense.

Okay, I get the single beep, enter my user name, and press enter. I
get the two beeps but when I try to type my password, I get a beep
each time I press a key on the keyboard. after I enter my password and
hit enter, there's nothing.

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On 5/17/18, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to
> enter your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered
> Cameron Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case, no
> spaces as the username, then press return.  You will then hear two beeps,
> enter your password at this point then press return.  You should then hear
> three beeps.  It will take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear and
> it's ready to go as usual.
>
>
> Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a
> dialog that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to pay
> attention to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do not
> want File Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these installers,
> but it sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit ball
> :).
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?
>
> I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
> not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
> the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
> doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
> I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
> machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
> voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
> screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.
>
> so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
> bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.
>
> Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
> loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
> notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
> iMessage on a new mac.
>
> I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
> got a single beep and then nothing.
>
> I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
> again, the exact same thing happened.
>
> When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
> partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.
>
> I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any ideas?
>
> The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cameron.
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Re: time machine weirdness

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Try going into System Preferences, Time Machine and seeing if there's a 
specific error mentioned there.  If there is, there's usually and Error 
Information button as well that could give you more detail.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 16, 2018, at 18:25, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

tonight I did a time-machine backup of my MBP running Sierra.  When I looked in 
Time Machine to make sure the backup was there, the date of the latest backup 
showed as May 2, the backup prior to this one.  I did another backup, and still 
the same date.  Anyone know what could be going on?  I looked on the drive, and 
there are two folders dated May 16.
TIA,
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Re: Lock Screen

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It's under the Apple menu.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2018, at 07:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Thanks for that one Tim.
Where did you find it?
Thanks?
/A

> 14 maj 2018 kl. 22:15 skrev Tim Kilburn  >:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes I get so used to using the keyboard shortcuts that I'm accustomed 
> to, that I don't notice that there are new ones in the menus.  I found this 
> one the other day.  It's cmd-ctrl-q.  This shortcut locks your Mac screen so 
> that you need to enter the password before getting at your Desktop or other 
> activity.  I realize that some of you find that bothersome or cumbersome, but 
> it is a quick and easy way of securing your Mac without closing the lid or 
> logging out.  My MBP will automatically do this after about 2 minutes of idol 
> time, but this is an easy thing to do when leaving my computer at my desk.
> 
> Just thought I'd share.
> 
> Later...
> 
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Re: mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sounds like File Vault is enabled.  The beep sound is waiting for you to enter 
your username.  It is expecting textual input.  So, if you entered Cameron 
Strife as your user, then enter cameronstrife, all lower case, no spaces as the 
username, then press return.  You will then hear two beeps, enter your password 
at this point then press return.  You should then hear three beeps.  It will 
take a minute or so, then your Desktop will appear and it's ready to go as 
usual.


Why did this happen you ask?  In the High Sierra installer, there is a dialog 
that, by default, has File Vault checked or enabled.  You need to pay attention 
to this part of the installer and uncheck that box if you do not want File 
Vault enabled.  We get used to cruising through these installers, but it 
sometimes ends up throwing us a curve ball, or maybe it's a spit ball :).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 17, 2018, at 07:58, Cameron Strife  wrote:

Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?

I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.

so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.

Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
iMessage on a new mac.

I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
got a single beep and then nothing.

I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
again, the exact same thing happened.

When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.

I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any ideas?

The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Re: Ellipsis sign

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   Three periods make up the ellipsis sign.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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mac OS high sierra install issue?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi everyone. Hopefully someone has a fix for this?

I bought a second hand mac book air recently. The previous owner had
not wiped their drive so as I always do with a new machine, I wiped
the drive after booting into recovery. I reinstalled high sierra after
doing that while still in utilities. The install seemed to go fine and
I setup high sierra and installed my apps etc. After rebooting the
machine however, all i get after the mac chime is a single beep.
voiceover will not load and I can't seem to read anything on the
screen using the seeing AI iPhone app.

so, i wiped the drive again and this time, installed high sierra via a
bootable flash drive I created on my iMac using disk maker x.

Again the install went fine, I setup everything after high sierra
loaded and all seemed fine. I signed into iCloud and I get the
notification on my other devices that I'm signed into facetime and
iMessage on a new mac.

I restarted the machine and just as before, once the chime sounded, I
got a single beep and then nothing.

I powered down the machine and reset the pram. Once it restarted
again, the exact same thing happened.

When I boot into mac utilities again, I can see the macintosh
partition in startup disk but it says it can't access it.

I haven't come across this before. Would anybody out there have any ideas?

The machine does not have apple care so I can't call them about it.

Thanks,

Cameron.

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Hi One&All,
I am wanting to make a “shortcut” to save attachments in mail, but I do not 
know how to type or make the “ellipsis sign”, can one please help.
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Re: VoiceOver, Apple Maps, Yelp, and Google Trips Make for a Fabulous Vacation

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Mark!
But this is quite encouraging to hear that you did it all alone.
Ofcorse you have to get some help by sighted but that is not a problem or 
discouragement for me.
I don’t know how good such things as walking in a city works for blind and low 
vission people works in the US but here in Sweden it sometimes works quite well 
and sometimes not.
You have to be a bit brave too and that is my biggest issue these days.
BUt its really nice to see the technique in progress.
/A

> 17 maj 2018 kl. 08:32 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just returned from a 4-day mini vacation to Seattle, Washington.  
> 
> I planned my entire sightseeing excursions using the Google Trips app.  In
> addition, I used the Apple Maps transit directions and walking directions
> the entire time.  All of this via VoiceOver.  Oh, yes, I used Yelp,
> extensively, also.  
> 
> Seattle has a mono-rail, a light rail system, and several bus systems.  It
> is truly a metropolitan destination.  
> 
> I stayed at a hotel in downtown Seattle.  So, for example, I took the light
> rail to the downtown area and then walked about 20 minutes to my hotel.  The
> Apple Maps directions were perfect.  I really liked the fact that I could
> easily track each train stop along the way so that I knew exactly where to
> exit the coach.  I did not realize, until this trip that one can use swiping
> gestures to navigate along any transit route in order to monitor one's
> progress along the route.  Very, very impressive.  
> 
> I won't bore you with the details but I will tell you that, thanks to the
> Google Trips app, along with Apple Maps, and Yelp, I toured the Space
> Needle, went to the Waterfall Garden Park, home of the original UPS store,
> took an underground city tour, took a 1-hour harbor crews tour, explored
> Pike Square, Pioneer Square, Bell Town, the Market Square, went to the
> original Starbucks, took a ride on the largest Ferris Wheel on the west
> coast, shopped at the new Amazon Go store (an absolutely amazing experience,
> to say the least), and ate at some marvelous restaurants.
> 
> My point? I used public transportation, only.  No Uber, Lift, or taxis.
> Also, I decided what I was going to do, mostly on the fly, using the Google
> Trips app.
> 
> Now I'm not saying that the trip didn't have its challenges, for example,
> there is a lot of construction going on in downtown Seattle and I needed a
> lot of sighted assistance in order to navigate around it, but I am saying
> that I am certain I would not have had as much fun without my beloved iPHone
> 8 Plus and several very crucial apps such as Yelp, Apple Maps, the Amazon Go
> app, and of course, Google Trips for iOS.
> 
> Now I am not suggesting that a blind or low vision person can rely on any
> technology, alone, in order to explore a major city.  After all, at this
> point in history, technology is far from perfect.  And, when it's all said
> and done, what really made my vacation possible, was good old fashion people
> skills as sighted assistance was absolutely necessary for many of the
> activities described above.  Be that as it may, with the help of technology,
> I was able to independently explore the major city attractions and decide
> how I wanted to spend my time.
> 
> Let me add that, while I had a backup battery with me, I did not use it.
> The battery life on my 8 Plus was beyond amazing.  Even after over 12 hours
> of use, I didn't run out of juice.  Regardless, I was glad to have a mobile
> charging source with me, just in case.
> 
> While I had a lot of fun, I am delightfully exhausted and glad to be back.
> For, as the saying goes, "there's no place like home."  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Lock Screen

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thanks for that one Tim.
Where did you find it?
Thanks?
/A

> 14 maj 2018 kl. 22:15 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes I get so used to using the keyboard shortcuts that I'm accustomed 
> to, that I don't notice that there are new ones in the menus.  I found this 
> one the other day.  It's cmd-ctrl-q.  This shortcut locks your Mac screen so 
> that you need to enter the password before getting at your Desktop or other 
> activity.  I realize that some of you find that bothersome or cumbersome, but 
> it is a quick and easy way of securing your Mac without closing the lid or 
> logging out.  My MBP will automatically do this after about 2 minutes of idol 
> time, but this is an easy thing to do when leaving my computer at my desk.
> 
> Just thought I'd share.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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