Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I read this.  It didn't help.

If you know of something I'm missing, please let me know.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 7:34 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> For the use of comments in Microsoft Word for Mac with VoiceOver, Microsoft's 
> official guide is at 
> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-add-read-and-delete-comments-in-word-c4648d50-4f7b-4795-b487-9e3141a5a596
> 
> On 7/28/18, 18:12, "Sarai Bucciarelli"  behalf of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>Maybe I'm thinking of track changes. LOL.
> 
>Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
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>From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
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>Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word
> 
>No actually if you’re using word and windows, Jaws shows you what text the 
> comments are associated with. It’s definitely easier to follow in windows the 
> native on the Mac.
>Cheers,
>Donna
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version of 
>> Word.
>> Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility.
>> 
>> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:41 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
>> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said 
>> Word is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  
>> But for my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is 
>> that, while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what 
>> text they are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  
>> Since that is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and 
>> I'll just have to be extra careful about document fonts.
>> 
>> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Indeed. Maybe hot spots can be usd here?

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On 7/28/2018 4:35 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Oh, right. The keystroke that requires 35 fingers. Apple so dropped the ball on 
that one! LOL
Cheers,
Donna

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On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   If your keyboard does not have the End key In that case the equivalent is 
VO-shift-Fn-right arrow. I am using an Apple wired keyboard so I forget this.

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Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan


On 7/28/2018 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Vo-end?  How does one accomplish that on a Mac laptop keyboard? Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new document, just 
press VO-end to fly by those settings.

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan


On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi all,
My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie questions.
Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set options 
so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every time you 
scan?
I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all the 
crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about re-shaping, 
drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that stuff go bye-bye?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: Back translation software

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Duxbury Braille Translator, which is available for the Mac, has had a 
reputation for many years as giving the most accurate results.

On 7/25/18, 11:22, "Joe Quinn"  wrote:


Forgive me if this had been covered before but 
Forgive me if this had been covered before but’s a good translation 
software to back translate .brf files into text? Preferably ueb? Thanks!

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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On my keyboard, at least, Ctrl, Option and FN are next to each other. If that's 
still awkward, which, granted, it may be, you could enable CapsLock as the 
VoiceOver key.

On 7/28/18, 19:35, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

Oh, right. The keystroke that requires 35 fingers. Apple so dropped the 
ball on that one! LOL
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> 
>   If your keyboard does not have the End key In that case the equivalent 
is VO-shift-Fn-right arrow. I am using an Apple wired keyboard so I forget this.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
> 
>> On 7/28/2018 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Vo-end?  How does one accomplish that on a Mac laptop keyboard? Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new 
document, just press VO-end to fly by those settings.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
>>> 
 On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi all,
 My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie 
questions.
 Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set 
options so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every time 
you scan?
 I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was 
all the crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about 
re-shaping, drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that 
stuff go bye-bye?
 TIA,
 Donna
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Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Times New Roman.  To be clear, the same Times New Roman that is available in 
Word is available in Pages.  Normally, for the Mac, all fonts are available to 
all apps that use the font collection.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 28, 2018, at 20:56, Brian Howerton  wrote:

In pages, what is the equivalent for times new roman font?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
> is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
> my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, 
> while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they 
> are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that 
> is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just 
> have to be extra careful about document fonts.
> 
> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

For the use of comments in Microsoft Word for Mac with VoiceOver, Microsoft's 
official guide is at 
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-add-read-and-delete-comments-in-word-c4648d50-4f7b-4795-b487-9e3141a5a596

On 7/28/18, 18:12, "Sarai Bucciarelli"  wrote:

Maybe I'm thinking of track changes. LOL.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 5:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

No actually if you’re using word and windows, Jaws shows you what text the 
comments are associated with. It’s definitely easier to follow in windows the 
native on the Mac.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version of 
Word.
> Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, while 
you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they are 
linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that is 
important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just have to 
be extra careful about document fonts.
> 
> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

[Brian Howerton]

In pages, what is the equivalent for times new roman font?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
> is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
> my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, 
> while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they 
> are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that 
> is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just 
> have to be extra careful about document fonts.
> 
> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, right. The keystroke that requires 35 fingers. Apple so dropped the ball on 
that one! LOL
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Jul 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>   If your keyboard does not have the End key In that case the equivalent is 
> VO-shift-Fn-right arrow. I am using an Apple wired keyboard so I forget this.
> 
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>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
> 
>> On 7/28/2018 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Vo-end?  How does one accomplish that on a Mac laptop keyboard? Cheers,
>> Donna
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new document, 
>>> just press VO-end to fly by those settings.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
>>> 
 On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi all,
 My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie 
 questions.
 Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set 
 options so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every 
 time you scan?
 I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all 
 the crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about 
 re-shaping, drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that 
 stuff go bye-bye?
 TIA,
 Donna
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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   If your keyboard does not have the End key In that case the 
equivalent is VO-shift-Fn-right arrow. I am using an Apple wired 
keyboard so I forget this.


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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/28/2018 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Vo-end?  How does one accomplish that on a Mac laptop keyboard? Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Donna,
   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new document, just 
press VO-end to fly by those settings.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan


On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi all,
My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie questions.
Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set options 
so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every time you 
scan?
I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all the 
crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about re-shaping, 
drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that stuff go bye-bye?
TIA,
Donna


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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Vo-end?  How does one accomplish that on a Mac laptop keyboard? Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
>   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new document, just 
> press VO-end to fly by those settings.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
> 
>> On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie 
>> questions.
>> Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set 
>> options so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every 
>> time you scan?
>> I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all 
>> the crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about 
>> re-shaping, drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that 
>> stuff go bye-bye?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Donna,
   Once you set the options, they stick. So when you scan a new 
document, just press VO-end to fly by those settings.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/28/2018 11:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie questions.

Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set options 
so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every time you 
scan?

I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all the 
crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about re-shaping, 
drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that stuff go bye-bye?
TIA,
Donna



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RE: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Maybe I'm thinking of track changes. LOL.

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-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 5:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

No actually if you’re using word and windows, Jaws shows you what text the 
comments are associated with. It’s definitely easier to follow in windows the 
native on the Mac.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Hi:
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> Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version of 
> Word.
> Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility.
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
> is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
> my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, 
> while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they 
> are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that 
> is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just 
> have to be extra careful about document fonts.
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> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

No actually if you’re using word and windows, Jaws shows you what text the 
comments are associated with. It’s definitely easier to follow in windows the 
native on the Mac.
Cheers,
Donna

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> On Jul 28, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
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> Hi:
> 
> Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version of 
> Word.
> Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility.
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
> is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
> my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, 
> while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they 
> are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that 
> is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just 
> have to be extra careful about document fonts.
> 
> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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RE: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:

Just note the same issues with comments is also in the Windows version of Word.
Microsoft has done a wonderful job with accessibility.

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

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From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

Hi all,

So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have come 
to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word is 
very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for my 
purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, while you 
can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they are linked 
to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that is important 
for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just have to be extra 
careful about document fonts.

I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
Cheers,
Donna

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My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have come 
to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word is 
very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for my 
purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, while you 
can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they are linked 
to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that is important 
for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just have to be extra 
careful about document fonts.

I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
Cheers,
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A little hellp getting started with FineReader?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

My FineReader install has gone pretty well, but I have a few newbie questions.

Is there a hotkey to initiate a scan?  If not, is there any way to set options 
so you don't have to go through those two screens of prompts every time you 
scan?

I'm also remembering that one thing I hated about ABBYY in Windows was all the 
crap that's on the screen following a scan.  Lots of stuff about re-shaping, 
drawing, and defining the area.  Is there any way to make that stuff go bye-bye?
TIA,
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Re: mixed platform quesiton

[Jonathan Cohn]

One quick thing you could try is to set up a new Outlook profile. if you
are running Windows 7 I can give you instructions if you need them.

Jonathan
 on how to do this if you need it. I did see a slight improvement

On 27 July 2018 at 22:38, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Thanks I appreciate it.
> But it's only outlook, word and excel seem to be fine.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2018 5:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: mixed platform quesiton
>
> I certainly have had issues with Outlook taking several seconds on my VM
> to open a new message after I click the control-less keystroke. I just got
> pushed a new copy of Outlook this morning and it is still happening on the
> PC side. Luckily for me the Macintosh Outlook does not have these slow
> downs, and the latest version of the insider fast build now does not jump
> back to the messages list when typing a folder name in the list of folders.
> This only got corrected in the insider build this week.
>
> I’ll ask a couple other people in office if they experience very slow
> outlook.
>
> Jonathan
>
> > On Jul 25, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > So I've got a mid 2013 mac book air with i7 1.7ghz processor and 8GB
> > ram 512GB ssd, This is an 11 inch notebook,
> >
> > I've got it bootcamped with windows 10 in the second partition The ssd
> > is divided equally,
> >
> > Both the mac os high sierra 10.13.6 as of a few days ago, And windows
> > are kept up to date with patching.
> >
> > What I've started noticing in the passed couple of weeks though is
> > that on the windows side more than the mac,
> >
> > MS Outlook is really really slow to open, Send / receive calls emails
> > and when reading or editing to reply things work really really slowly as
> in dead people walk faster.
> >
> > But then and oh yes there is more,
> > Since installing 10.13.6 I'm finding Outlook on the mac is also starting
> to behave like someone walking through thick cement!
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed any odd behaviour like this with either platform?
> >
> > I can't tell if it's an apple os or ms office issue But it's getting
> > bloody annoying
> >
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RE: Onnex for mac, how the heck do you work with this app.

[matthew dyer]

What version o I need.  I got the version of hi searier.

Matthew



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You might want to make sure you have the correct version, if you have the wrong 
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On Jul 27, 2018, at 4:36 PM, matthew dyer 
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Hi,

I don't even have this window.  I get system preferences to come up as well as 
a blank window.  What am I doing well.

Matthew



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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of jeff `greene
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Subject: Re: Onnex for mac, how the heck do you work with this app.

Hi Matthew,
I've gotOnyx on my wife's mac and have never had a problem with it.
What I do is after it checks the drive, I go to the automation tab, check all 
the boxes and hit run tasks. It does a pretty good job cleaning up a mac. I do 
prefer cocktail myself.
HTH Jeff


On 7/27/18, matthew dyer 
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Hi all,

Yesterday I installed onnex for mac and wondering if any one still
uses this app and how to work with this?  When onnex opens
systemprefs/privacy and securety also opens.  When trying to use this
app, I get the onnex has no windows.  I have also tried cocktale, but
this while it is accessible, it seems to make my mac unusable at times
as I get the busy message.  If there is a utility that is accessible
to c.lean up my mac, please let me know as my mac is really slow at times 
particularly after booting up at first.
Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Bootcamp versus Fusion?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I've heard positive comments about the use of Windows 10 with screen readers in 
VirtualBox, running on a Mac.

On 7/27/18, 22:37, "Simon Fogarty"  wrote:

I know we tried something like that with a vm workstation file I set up but 
I couldn't get it working in virtual box.

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I seem to remember some VM solutions could run other system’s VM packages. 
Could it be that Virtual box could run a Fusion created VM? That might be a 
quick solution.

> On Jul 25, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> That's the problem I've got currently.
> 
> I'd normally set jaws as a laptop keyboard which makes caps lock the jaws 
key.
> 
> However for some reason it doesn't work in vm fusion, Works fine in 
> virtual box but that's not an easy one currently to setup.
> 
> I know this issue has been discussed on this list a number of times 
> Hopefully someone can refresh my memory for me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Thanks.  I'm leaning toward Fusion, because I like the idea of being able 
to switch back and forth.  I'm curious, though.  Since the laptops don't have 
an Insert key, what do you use for the JAWS key?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> It's really up to what you need to be able to do.
>> 
>> I've got 2 mac book devices
>> A 2013 air and a brand new mac book pro 13.
>> 
>> On my air I have windows 10 running in boot camp and it is my primary 
machine as I use windows primarily for most things.
>> 
>> On my mac book pro I've just setup vm fusion 10 pro with windows 10 
>> for now but will also setup a indows 7 machine as well for work
>> 
>> The fusion vm's let me flick back and forward between the different 
>> machines which my colleagues are using on iMacs
>> 
>> The only thing I don't like thus far about fusion is that I can't by 
default use the caps lock key as my jaws key and at the moment I'm having 
issues trying to setup a jaws key in my fusion vm's so am stuck with my vm's in 
desktop mode.
>> 
>> Other than that I'm using the windows machines with domain based 
authentication and that's just for access to some domain based services for 
work.
>> 
>> So really it comes down to what you need o be doing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2018 1:05 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Bootcamp versus Fusion?
>> 
>> Good morning, all,
>> 
>> I am fast coming to a computer crossroads, so thought I would seek some 
input from the list.
>> 
>> My job relies heavily on using MS Word.  I do a lot of document sharing, 
so use Comments and Track Changes extensively.  Though it may be because I'm 
not doing something right, I haven't found using Pages to be satisfactory.  The 
interface for reading comments and changes in Windows seems smoother, and i 
also notice that when I move documents between Pages and Word, the fonts don't 
seem to transfer, i.e. Mac doesn't seem to see Windows fonts and vice versa.
>> 
>> I have a PC that I bought back in 2010.  It continues to limp along, so 
that has primarily been the computer I use for work stuff.  But it's starting 
to grumble a little more than it used to, so I'm planning now for the day that 
it actually gives up the ghost.
>> 
>> One option is of course to just buy another inexpensive PC.  But I'm 
wondering about whether it's time to just buck up and install either bootcamp 
or Fusion.  Fusion is appealing because it would preserve the option to run 
Windows and Mac simultaneously.  I would be interested to hear thoughts on how 
both options work in High Sierra, and if anyone can speak to it, Mojave.  The 
things I would do in Windows are pretty limited.  Mostly, Word, Duxbury, 
K1000--which could conceivably be replaced with ABBYY on the Mac--and some web 
browsing when I can't get sites to play nice on the Mac.
>> 
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>> Cheers,
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Re: Where to Buy MS-Office for Mac

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,


The K-12 price is similar. 

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 9:16 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> If you have a university affiliation, check and see if you can get it there.  
> I think the price I saw online was like $145, but I only paid $20.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:48 AM, 'Peggy' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Amazon has it too.
>> 
>> Peggy and Dixie Marie
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 28, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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>> Office365.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Mac?
>> 
>> Many Thanks, for your patience as well as answering my question!
>> 
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Re: Where to Buy MS-Office for Mac

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

If you have a university affiliation, check and see if you can get it there.  I 
think the price I saw online was like $145, but I only paid $20.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Amazon has it too.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 28, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Office365.com
> 
> 
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> 
> Many Thanks, for your patience as well as answering my question!
> 
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Re: Abridged summary of macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

[Pavlo Yefetov]

hai list  id like to know wot else canbiuseed with atomatic language swiching 
because ,in normal document it' don't work 
can any of you give me you advice .
pavlo yefetov 
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a.. Onnex for mac, how the heck do you work with this app. - 4 Updates 
b.. ABBYY Fine Reader, is there a demo? - 7 Updates 
c.. installing Office/Word for Mac? - 11 Updates 
d.. High Sierra and automatic language switching - 1 Update 
e.. Where to Buy MS-Office for Mac - 2 Updates 
  Onnex for mac, how the heck do you work with this app. matthew dyer 
: Jul 27 06:14PM 

Hi all,
 
Yesterday I installed onnex for mac and wondering if any one still uses 
this app and how to work with this? When onnex opens systemprefs/privacy and 
securety also opens. When trying to ...more 
   
"jeff `greene" : Jul 27 02:30PM -0400 

Hi Matthew,
I've gotOnyx on my wife's mac and have never had a problem with it.
What I do is after it checks the drive, I go to the automation tab,
check all the boxes and hit run tasks. ...more 
   
"E.T." : Jul 27 11:34AM -0700 

I have not used Onyx in a long while, I prefer Clean My Mac. On the 
security thing, its been a while since I dealt with that. you might try 
VO space to get focus on that window.
...more 
   
matthew dyer : Jul 27 08:36PM 

Hi,
 
I don't even have this window. I get system preferences to come up as 
well as a blank window. What am I doing well.
 
Matthew
 
 
 
-Original Message- ...more 
   

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  ABBYY Fine Reader, is there a demo? Donna Goodin : Jul 27 
10:00AM -0500 

Hi all,
 
One other piece of my system upgrade puzzle is what to do for OCR 
software. If I go all Mac, I will have to switch from K1000 to ABBYY Fine 
Reader. I have used FineReader in Windows, and ...more 
   
"E.T." : Jul 27 08:15AM -0700 

Donna,
There is but don't know how log. Can't tell you how much better the 
Mac version is because I have an old old Windows version. I do not use 
it a lot but find the Mac version ...more 
   
Donna Goodin : Jul 27 10:17AM -0500 

Hey, thanks. By the way, I found out from Duxbury that my old Everest 
Embosser will work on my Mac. Unfortunately, the Duxbury version for Mac will 
run me $700. For that, I could buy a low end PC. ...more 
   
"E.T." : Jul 27 08:26AM -0700 

I want one of those...new of course. Yes and I have debated getting 
a new Windows laptop but I don't want to mess with Windows 10. Not in 
the budget though.
 
From E.T.'s Keyboard... ...more 
   
Donna Goodin : Jul 27 10:29AM -0500 

Yeah, not a huge fan of Windows 10, but I already had to learn it, so 
could deal. My Everest is pretty old, about 18 years. I probably should replace 
it, the paper feed doesn't work all that well. ...more 
   
Jonathan Cohn : Jul 27 12:14PM -0400 

Donna,
 
Perhaps BrailleBlaster (braille blaster.org) will work with your 
embosser. I keep meaning to see what features it has but haven’t tried it yet. 
If somebody on MacVisionaries raves about ...more 
   
Donna Goodin : Jul 27 11:56AM -0500 

Hi John,
 
Good suggestion - I forgot about braille blaster. I'll be interested to 
hear what others think about it. I suppose there's always roboBraille, too, 
though I'm not crazy about having to ...more 
   

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  installing Office/Word for Mac? Donna Goodin : Jul 26 
06:21PM -0500 

Hi all,
 
I just got Office for Mac. Is there anything I should know about the 
install before I get started? Is it accessible? Any problems to watch out for?
thanks,
Donna
...more 
   
Jason White : Jul 26 08:30PM -0400 

It was accessible when I used it. I installed from the Office 365 
download - that is, logged into my Office 365 account and downloaded the Mac 
installer. I don't remember any problems.
...more 
   
Donna Goodin : Jul 26 09:31PM -0500 

Hi Jason,
 
I got Office Not 365. Hopefully that will contain the same 
accessibility features, because I don't want something that requires a 
subscription.
 
Thanks for the installation info. ...more 
   
Tim Kilburn : Jul 27 08:13AM -0300 

Hi Donna,
 
I've used that installer package and 

Re: Where to Buy MS-Office for Mac

['Peggy' via MacVisionaries]

Amazon has it too.

Peggy and Dixie Marie

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On Jul 28, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Office365.com


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Sent: Friday, 27 July 2018 2:28 PM
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Subject: Where to Buy MS-Office for Mac

Pardon me for asking  question that has been, i am sure, answered numerous 
times on this list; but where can I buy a copy of the MS-Office suite for Mac?

Many Thanks, for your patience as well as answering my question!


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Re: High Sierra and automatic language switching

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

First of all,  you need to add languages you wish to use in Voiceover utility.  
Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8 key combination and arrow down to voice 
category.  You will need to make sure that all the languages you wish to use 
with Voiceover are added to the list of languagges.  Once it’s done, You can 
use vo+command+shift+arrow keys to: first, find the Voice category and then 
using the same combination of keys pressed down but this time using up and down 
arrow, make sure you select automatic language switching.  Once you hear 
Voiceover say automatic language switching or something similar in the list of 
all languages you’ve selected for use, release the keys and automatic language 
switching will become your default.

Please note that automatic language switching at present doesn’t work properly 
with Greek.

Hope this will help a little.

Andrew
> On 27 Jul 2018, at 14:51, Pavel Yefetov  wrote:
> 
> Hi there exclaim I'd like to know is is there another way to have the 
> automatic language switching also in dictionary I have several Dictionary 
> this year is in in the app Dictionary which is in macOS for example if I if 
> I'd like to have automatically language switching
> 
> 
> For example: if the taxes in Arabic dictionary I'd like to have the Arabic 
> voice. How to make it possibly happening regards Pablo Pablo if I don't
> 
> Отправлено с iPhone
> 
> 17 июля 2018 г., в 13:27, Pavel Yefetov  > написал(а):
> 
>> hi remy how do you use those voices can you give me a the general idea how 
>> it's works 
>> 
>> пятница, 8 июня 2018 г., 5:23:43 UTC+3 пользователь Ramy Moustafa написал:
>> Hi:
>> thanks so much as mentioned, am using teh Infovox, and it’s working ok with 
>> 2 languages.
>> arabic and english.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Pavel Yefetov >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> среда, 20 декабря 2017 г., 1:41:06 UTC-5 пользователь Anne Robertson 
>>> написал:
>>> Hello Ramy, 
>>> 
>>> Automatic language switching only happens where language tags are 
>>> available, such as in HTML, and they have to be correctly applied. 
>>> Otherwise, switching voices is horrible in High Sierra. This is why I’m 
>>> still on Sierra as I switch between French and English many times every 
>>> day. 
>>> This topic has been discussed quite a bit on this list and there doesn’t 
>>> seem to be an easy solution to the problem. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> 
>>> Anne 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:02, Ramy Moustafa > wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Hello all: 
>>> > 
>>> > After 4 Hours, I updated my MacBook pro 2015 to High Sierra, and the 
>>> > only thing that I found that the volume went all down, and I called a 
>>> > helper on Be my eyes and he told me that the Mac is working, I 
>>> > increased the volume and all worked ok. 
>>> > 
>>> > Now I need to use the Automatic language swithch. 
>>> > my default language is English and am using the english voice, 
>>> > and I downloaded from  Sierra some Arabic voices like Tarek. 
>>> > 1- I selected the Automatically select paste on language, inside the 
>>> > voice chooser menu on the Voice over. 
>>> > 2- When I came across any Arabic word or something, VOice over did not 
>>> > switch to the Arabic Voice. 
>>> > Don' t know what can I do to use this feature. 
>>> > 
>>> > Please Help 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > -- 
>>> > Ramy MoustafaSaber 
>>> > Music instructor @: 
>>> > Faculty ofmusical education 
>>> > Music arranger and Sound engineer @: 
>>> > Harmony Recording Studio 
>>> > https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg 
>>> >  
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