RE: skype nonsense

[M. Taylor]

Hello Doug,

Other than granting the Appropriate device permissions, VoiceOver and Skype, at 
least in my experience, are completely compatible on both Mac OS Mojave and the 
latest version of iOS.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 8:15 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: skype nonsense

Are there any MacOS accessibility or access settings that need to be enabled 
for Skype to work with VoiceOver?

Also, to the mention of Skype For Business (SFB): I am not aware of SFB being 
at least easily usable to replace Skype, as SFB requires a corporate server and 
does not, by default usage anyway, link to regular Skype users.
Conversations can be arranged between SFB contacts and Skype contacts, but I 
think that requires a bit of special setup for each contact. Corrections 
welcome.

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 06:22:49PM -0800, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Jean,

After reading your post, I opened Skype on my Mac OS Mojave computer.  And then 
I checked to make certain I have the latest version of Skype.

I've got to tell you that I have absolutely no problems using Skype with 
VoiceOver.  In fact, just before writing this, I both made and received a call 
using Skype.  Moreover, the experience on my Mac is almost identical to that of 
iOS, which, I might add, I thoroughly enjoy.

Unlike Jason, I do not have a Microsoft 360 account.  

Have you turned VoiceOver off and then back on, again after launching Skype?

Also, in some instances, it may be necessary to grant Skype both Microphone and 
Camera privileges before it will work as expected.  

To make certain that you have granted Skype the necessary permissions, go to 
System Preferences/Security/Privacy and check the various devices.

If all else fails, then uninstall Skype, reboot the computer, and then 
reinstall it.

Let us know what happens.

Mark 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:59 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: skype nonsense

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can???t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to 
close it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven???t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it 
was behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
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About Backups for iOS Devices, Apple Support

[M. Taylor]

About backups for iOS devices
You can copy and save the information on your iOS device by backing it up.
If you replace your device, you can use its backup to transfer your
information to a new iOS device.
 
Decide which method is best for you
This article can help you decide which backup method is best for you. In
case you ever need an alternative backup, you can make a backup in iCloud
and another in iTunes.  
 
iCloud
.   Stores backups in iCloud
.   Offers up to 2TB of storage (your first 5GB are free)
.   Always encrypts your backups
.   Lets you create and use backups from anywhere with Wi-Fi
 
iTunes
.   Stores backups on your Mac or PC
.   Storage depends on your Mac or PC's available space
.   Offers encrypted backups (off by default)
.   Lets you create and use backups from your Mac or PC
 
Learn how to make a backup or restore your device from a backup.  
 
iCloud backups
With a Wi-Fi network connection, you can make a backup of your device using
iCloud. You don't need to plug your device into a computer or even be at
home to back up with iCloud. 
iCloud backups include nearly all data and settings stored on your device.
iCloud backups don't include:
.   Data that's already stored in iCloud, like Contacts, Calendars,
Notes, iCloud Photos, iMessages, Voice Memos, and text (SMS) and multimedia
(MMS) messages*
.   Data stored in other cloud services, like Gmail and Exchange mail
.   Apple Mail data
.   Apple Pay information and settings
.   Touch ID settings
.   iCloud Music Library and App Store content (If it's still available
in the iTunes, App, or Apple Books store, you can tap to re-download your
already purchased content.)
Learn how to make an iCloud backup or how to manage iCloud storage and
delete backups that you no longer need.
* When you use Messages in iCloud or Voice Memos, or turn on iCloud Photos,
your content is automatically stored in iCloud.

 
iTunes backups
>From your Mac or PC, you can make a backup of your device in iTunes. Syncing
your device with your computer isn't the same as making a backup. An iTunes
backup includes nearly all of your device's data and settings. An iTunes
backup doesn't include:
.   Content from the iTunes and App Stores, or PDFs downloaded directly
to Apple Books
.   Content synced from iTunes, like imported MP3s or CDs, videos,
books, and photos
.   Data already stored in iCloud, like iCloud Photos, iMessages, and
text (SMS) and multimedia (MMS) messages
.   Face ID or Touch ID settings
.   Apple Pay information and settings
.   Apple Mail data
.   Activity, Health, and Keychain data (To back up this content, you'll
need to use Encrypted Backup in iTunes.)
Learn how to make backups in iTunes, how to find them on your Mac or PC, and
how to delete backups that you no longer need.
 
Can I use my device's backup for another kind of device, like an iPhone
backup for an iPad?
While you can restore a device from a backup of another kind of device, like
using an iPad backup for an iPhone, certain types of content won't transfer.
This content includes photos, Messages and attachments in Messages*, Voice
Memos, and apps that aren't compatible with the device that you're setting
up. For example, apps compatible only with iPad won't transfer to your
iPhone.
* If your devices use iCloud and Messages in iCloud, your iMessages and text
(SMS) and multimedia (MMS) messages are automatically stored in iCloud. 
 
Learn more
.   Make a backup of your device or restore from a backup.
.   Manage your iOS backups.
.   Encrypt your iTunes backups.
.   Back up your Apple Watch.


Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204136


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Google Drive on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

earlier I posted that I was having trouble getting sharable links from Google 
drive. in menu extras there's something called "frontend Agent". is that 
supposed to be there? what is it for?

thanks.
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Re: skype nonsense

[Doug Lee]

Are there any MacOS accessibility or access settings that need to be enabled 
for Skype to work with VoiceOver?

Also, to the mention of Skype For Business (SFB): I am not aware of SFB being 
at least easily usable to replace Skype, as SFB requires a corporate server and 
does not, by default usage anyway, link to regular Skype users.
Conversations can be arranged between SFB contacts and Skype contacts, but I 
think that requires a bit of special setup for each contact. Corrections 
welcome.

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 06:22:49PM -0800, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Jean,

After reading your post, I opened Skype on my Mac OS Mojave computer.  And then 
I checked to make certain I have the latest version of Skype.

I've got to tell you that I have absolutely no problems using Skype with 
VoiceOver.  In fact, just before writing this, I both made and received a call 
using Skype.  Moreover, the experience on my Mac is almost identical to that of 
iOS, which, I might add, I thoroughly enjoy.

Unlike Jason, I do not have a Microsoft 360 account.  

Have you turned VoiceOver off and then back on, again after launching Skype?

Also, in some instances, it may be necessary to grant Skype both Microphone and 
Camera privileges before it will work as expected.  

To make certain that you have granted Skype the necessary permissions, go to 
System Preferences/Security/Privacy and check the various devices.

If all else fails, then uninstall Skype, reboot the computer, and then 
reinstall it.

Let us know what happens.

Mark 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:59 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: skype nonsense

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can???t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to 
close it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven???t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it 
was behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




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Trans4m Center For Integral Development
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VMware and Windows Shortcuts

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   Latest Mojave and Fusion running Windows 7. I am again attempting to 
solve the inability to use some of the shortcuts for opening menus. Some 
work, such as Alt-E if the active app has an edit menu. Alt-T for tools 
also works. Alt-H for the help menu does not work, nor does ALt-F which 
in some apps will invoke the search function instead of opening the file 
menu. I do not use any third party key mapping apps, just what is 
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RE: skype nonsense

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jean,

After reading your post, I opened Skype on my Mac OS Mojave computer.  And then 
I checked to make certain I have the latest version of Skype.

I've got to tell you that I have absolutely no problems using Skype with 
VoiceOver.  In fact, just before writing this, I both made and received a call 
using Skype.  Moreover, the experience on my Mac is almost identical to that of 
iOS, which, I might add, I thoroughly enjoy.

Unlike Jason, I do not have a Microsoft 360 account.  

Have you turned VoiceOver off and then back on, again after launching Skype?

Also, in some instances, it may be necessary to grant Skype both Microphone and 
Camera privileges before it will work as expected.  

To make certain that you have granted Skype the necessary permissions, go to 
System Preferences/Security/Privacy and check the various devices.

If all else fails, then uninstall Skype, reboot the computer, and then 
reinstall it.

Let us know what happens.

Mark 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:59 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: skype nonsense

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can’t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to close 
it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven’t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it was 
behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
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Trans4m Center For Integral Development
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RE: skype nonsense

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I get the same results and reported them on the list recently. Skype for 
Business works though; you can try that if you have an Office 365 subscription.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of jean parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 7:59 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: skype nonsense

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can’t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to close 
it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven’t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it was 
behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




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skype nonsense

[jean parker]

Hello All:
I made the mistake of updating skype trying to resolve yet another problem it 
was causing. Now it is totally nonfunctional. When I open it, it says that 
skype has no windows. None of the shortcut keys work except for command 1 which 
opens a totally inaccessible web site. Everything in the menus is dimmed out. I 
can’t even make the thing quit correctly and have to do a forced quit to close 
it. I am using the latest version of Mac OS. 
I haven’t heard any complaints about skype for a while so I assumed that it was 
behaving itself. Or, maybe everyone has just given up on it, a perfectly 
understandable response to be sure.
Any and all ideas welcome including how to get a previous version that will at 
least do something productive.

Jean




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Lion Zombie Document Mystery Solved - TidBITS

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello, 

While this article is several years old, I am fairly confident that these 
behaviors of zombie windows being around behaves the same in Mohave. So if you 
are frustrated with windows that never die then read on for all the details. 

Jonathan 

> 
> https://tidbits.com/2012/05/23/lion-zombie-document-mystery-solved/ 
> 
> 
> Lion Zombie Document Mystery Solved
> 
> 23 May 2012
>  Thoughtful, detailed coverage of everything Apple for 
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> Apple professionals
> Although I’m the author of “Take Control of Using Lion 
> ,” I don’t actually 
> like Mac OS X 10.7 Lion very much; the book doesn’t express my biases 
> explicitly, but you can sense them clearly enough if you read attentively. 
> And one of the Lion features I dislike the most is Resume, which I privately 
> think of as “Zombies.” Resume comes in two parts:
> 
> When you start up the computer, Lion wants to launch all the applications 
> that were running just before you previously shut it down. The same applies, 
> obviously, to restarting, or logging out and logging back in.
> When you launch an application, Lion wants to open all the same documents and 
> windows that were open in that application when you previously terminated it.
> I don’t like these behaviors because, to me, they fly directly in the face of 
> precisely what restarting the computer or quitting an application is for. I 
> like to quit an application exactly as a way of making that application close 
> all its windows and forget about all its open documents. I like to restart 
> the computer (very frequently) as a way of blowing out all the cobwebs, 
> clearing memory, and putting the computer into a fresh state, with no 
> applications running. I don’t want applications launching themselves 
> automatically (aside from the few utilities that I’ve designated as Login 
> Items in the Users & Groups preference pane), and I certainly don’t want 
> applications that are launched to reopen a bunch of stale windows and 
> documents from the past.
> 
> In my book, I also explain how to take control of these features — which in 
> my case means turning them off. When I restart the computer or launch an 
> application, I want a clean slate, every time. Here’s how I get it:
> 
> To prevent applications from relaunching at system startup time, you have to 
> take preventative measures at shutdown time: in the dialog that appears when 
> you shut down or restart or log out, uncheck the checkbox that says “Reopen 
> windows when logging back in.” Of course, this means you have to avoid 
> situations where that dialog doesn’t appear — especially because, until the 
> recently released 10.7.4 update, Lion would check that checkbox by default 
> even if you had previously unchecked it. But, thanks to that update, the 
> checkbox is now staying unchecked; I suppose I should be grateful to Apple 
> for small favors.
>  
> To prevent windows from bringing their documents and windows back from the 
> dead at launch time, uncheck “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening 
> apps” in the General preference pane. (That hyphen is Apple’s mistake, not 
> mine: Apple really does write “reopen” in one place and “re-opening” in 
> another.) It’s possible, instead, to use a third-party utility such as 
> TinkerTool to turn off this behavior for individual applications, as I 
> explained in “Lion Frustrations? Don’t Forget TinkerTool 
> ” (29 October 2011), but I prefer to turn 
> off this feature globally.
> 
>  
> However, there’s a mystery. Even though I’ve unchecked “Restore windows when 
> quitting and re-opening apps”, some applications still sometimes bring their 
> zombie windows back from the dead when I launch them. Until recently, I 
> hadn’t paid much attention to this mystery; I tended to shrug it off as more 
> of Lion’s inscrutable annoyance. After all, coming back from the dead is what 
> zombies do, so it didn’t surprise me that a few of them wouldn’t stay dead. I 
> just sighed and closed the spontaneous windows by hand.
> 
> At the same time, though, it irked me that, while I was supposed to be 
> telling readers how to take control of Lion, I still couldn’t seem to get 
> full control of Lion myself. I mean, Lion has been around for a year, and I 
> still don’t have these issues straightened out? Shameful.
> 
> A few days ago, though, I suddenly thought I’d detected a pattern. I made a 
> few tests, and sure enough, there it was: the mystery was solved.
> 
> I know you’re right on the edge of your seat, so I won’t keep you in 
> suspense. Here’s the answer: If an application is running at 

Drive connected to airport extreme is invissible.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am a bit confused in regards to my Airport extreme and connecting a harddisk 
to it.
I have a drive which is formatted as mac extended jurnaled that has 2 
partitions.
One for files and one for backing up my mac.
Setting things up in time machine when smoothly and its backing everything up 
as it should.
However when i try to use the drive or the other partition as a network 
harddisk i can’t find it in finder.
>From what i understand I should enable file sharing within the airport utility 
>at the disks tab.
So i open up the airport utility and interact with the network area and 
navigate to my airport extreme and click on that. Then i press edit and get all 
the tabs from where i select the disks tab.
Here are my two partitions showing up and file sharing is enabled.
There’s also a checkbox to enable it to be available via wan but i have not 
that checked.
Then we come to the secure harddisk with and here i have  selected to secure my 
harddisk via a disk password.
Then i click save and update and when the thing gets started i went into finder 
and pressed shift cmd c to access my computer.
I go down to network and open that.
Here i see my airport extreme so i expand the item but here things stop working.
I don’t see my partitions at all.
But when i open Vlc on my Android Phone i can gain access to the disks with no 
problem.
So i don’t get this at all.
I can use the android phone but not my Mac to gain access to the network disks.
Very strange.
/A

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Re: screen replacement?

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. You certainly don't want to leave it without the glass...

You can get a replacement glass panel that perfectly fits the imac
from various sellers on e bay for around $65. Just search for iMac
replacement glass and you should find it. be sure you know your imac
model before purchasing something though. Proper placement is
essential. The way guys do it a lot of the time is to use a few
suction cups to get it into position. You need to be careful when
placing it though as the magnets used to hold the glass panel in place
are very strong. The risk of the glass being cracked or broken though
is much higher when taking off an old panel though. Getting the
placement just right the first time will avoid you having to take the
new one off to reposition it...

Cameron.



On 1/8/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
>
> That model will likely no longer be supported by Apple, thus you're looking
> at a third party part.  If you can actually find one, you could be looking
> at anywhere up to $500 or so and not a guarantee of it actually being a new
> screen, as in it could be a used one from an iMac with other problems.
>
> The biggest issue that you may have with just leaving it be as is, is the
> dust and humidity access.  Without a screen on the front, you're allowing
> dust and humidity easier access to the internal workings of the iMac.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jan 7, 2019, at 12:51, The wolf  wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> my computer stand fell over and the mac fell on the floor the glass on the
> screen shaddered how ever it still works
>
> luckly I have carpet
>
> any one know how much it would cost to replace the glass part?
>
> or am I just best at leaving it as is?
>
> it is a early 2009 imac
>
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Re: screen replacement?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That model will likely no longer be supported by Apple, thus you're looking at 
a third party part.  If you can actually find one, you could be looking at 
anywhere up to $500 or so and not a guarantee of it actually being a new 
screen, as in it could be a used one from an iMac with other problems.

The biggest issue that you may have with just leaving it be as is, is the dust 
and humidity access.  Without a screen on the front, you're allowing dust and 
humidity easier access to the internal workings of the iMac.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 7, 2019, at 12:51, The wolf  wrote:

Hello

my computer stand fell over and the mac fell on the floor the glass on the 
screen shaddered how ever it still works

luckly I have carpet

any one know how much it would cost to replace the glass part?

or am I just best at leaving it as is?

it is a early 2009 imac


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Info about talking or application accessible thermostats

[Likidefs]

Hi list,
 I would like some info about   talking thermostats for a gas boiler. 
Autonomous talking  or fully accessible via application. The gas boiler I own 
is Buderus.
Thanks in advance
Steve

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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Well, Dan, there's only one thing I can say:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

:)

Janina

'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hello,
> Well, I don’t know what to say other than that my boes headphones with 3.5 mm 
> jack work just fine while installing windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014. While the 
> laptop speakers don’t work till windows comes up with the drivers, for some 
> reason the 3.5 mm connector works just fine.
> 
> 
> > On   Jan 7, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah I would have thought it would have to be a USB a device of some sort 
> > as audio not installed is a problem I have with servers being setup but USB 
> > speakers work fine for me.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> > Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2019 2:23 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a 
> > few questions
> > 
> > The speakers builtin on a Mac laptop will not work in Windows until the 
> > drivers they require are installed. That hasn't happened at the point 
> > Windows is being installed.
> > 
> > In fact, you may find you need to use a USB headphone or speaker, not just 
> > some headphone plugged into the headphone jack. That was my situation when 
> > I installed Windows under Bootcamp.
> > 
> > Once installed you also install the latest Bootcamp drivers from Apple for 
> > Windows, and your builtin speakers begin to work as expected.
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Phil Halton writes:
> >> Concerning the use of headphones during the windows installation, is there 
> >> any special adaptation for these headphones? That is, is it just a matter 
> >> of plugging in headphones into your MacBook airs speaker jack, or are they 
> >> USB headphones of some sort? And, why do we need to use headphones at all? 
> >> Is it that the speakers do not work during the installation? Please 
> >> elaborate.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my IPhone
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:59 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Janina and list,
> >>> First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key. 
> >>> That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
> >>> Ok, here goes.
> >>> It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october 
> >>> release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My 
> >>> reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
> >>> Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked 
> >>> through many different articles and finally found some info regarding 
> >>> using the April iso instead of the latest image from October. It had 
> >>> something to do with the latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
> >>> At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In 
> >>> fact, I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the 
> >>> installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any 
> >>> sighted assistance.
> >>> Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks to everyone for helping me.
> >>> Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or 
> >>> Pro? Do I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps 
> >>> both. If I decide to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, 
> >>> like a usb hub and some additional audio input/output devices.
> >>> 
> >>> Again, thanks to everyone.
> >>> BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes. 
> >>> Thanks to them as well.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Dan
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>   wrote:
>  
>  Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. 
>  So, should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will 
>  just be handled for you in the background.
>  
>  By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell 
>  us a little of how that got resolved, please.
>  
>  Janina
>  
>  'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
> > Hi folks,
> > I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
> > Now a few questions.
> > 
> > I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
> > 
> > The quesyion is this.
> > 
> > If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely 
> > reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work 
> > every time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for 
> > a key reset/reactivation?
> > 
> > As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole 
> > new install of windows using bootcamp.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dan
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Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a few questions

['Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries]

Hello,
Well, I don’t know what to say other than that my boes headphones with 3.5 mm 
jack work just fine while installing windows 10 on my MBP mid 2014. While the 
laptop speakers don’t work till windows comes up with the drivers, for some 
reason the 3.5 mm connector works just fine.


> On Jan 7, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I would have thought it would have to be a USB a device of some sort as 
> audio not installed is a problem I have with servers being setup but USB 
> speakers work fine for me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2019 2:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Finally got Windows 10 running on my mac with Bootcamp. Now a 
> few questions
> 
> The speakers builtin on a Mac laptop will not work in Windows until the 
> drivers they require are installed. That hasn't happened at the point Windows 
> is being installed.
> 
> In fact, you may find you need to use a USB headphone or speaker, not just 
> some headphone plugged into the headphone jack. That was my situation when I 
> installed Windows under Bootcamp.
> 
> Once installed you also install the latest Bootcamp drivers from Apple for 
> Windows, and your builtin speakers begin to work as expected.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> Phil Halton writes:
>> Concerning the use of headphones during the windows installation, is there 
>> any special adaptation for these headphones? That is, is it just a matter of 
>> plugging in headphones into your MacBook airs speaker jack, or are they USB 
>> headphones of some sort? And, why do we need to use headphones at all? Is it 
>> that the speakers do not work during the installation? Please elaborate.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2019, at 1:59 AM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Janina and list,
>>> First off. Thanks about answering the question regarding the product key. 
>>> That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.
>>> Ok, here goes.
>>> It's all about the correct iso. I was using the latest iso, the october 
>>> release. Even though I thought about running the April iso, I didn't My 
>>> reasoning was that narrator was improved after the April iso.
>>> Any way, I spoke with someone at apple accessibility and they looked 
>>> through many different articles and finally found some info regarding using 
>>> the April iso instead of the latest image from October. It had something to 
>>> do with the latest iOS 10.14.2 on the Mac.
>>> At any rate, after using the April iso file, I had no problems at all. In 
>>> fact, I did use narrator with headphones after I got to that point in the 
>>> installation process. I was able to complete the installation without any 
>>> sighted assistance.
>>> Wow, does windows 10 ever fly on my mid 2014 MBP.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone for helping me.
>>> Now, I need to decide where I go from here. Do I want Home addition or Pro? 
>>> Do I still want to consider a refirbished computer. or, perhaps both. If I 
>>> decide to use the Mac only, I'll probably get a few items, like a usb hub 
>>> and some additional audio input/output devices.
>>> 
>>> Again, thanks to everyone.
>>> BTW. I was on the phone with Apple accessibility for about 45 minutes. 
>>> Thanks to them as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 5, 2019, at 10:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Your product key will register you and your machine with Microsoft. 
 So, should you need to reinstall on the same machine, this will 
 just be handled for you in the background.
 
 By the way what was the resolution to your earlier failures? Tell 
 us a little of how that got resolved, please.
 
 Janina
 
 'Dan' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi folks,
> I got bootcamp install and windows running just fine on my mac.
> Now a few questions.
> 
> I'm running windows in restricted mode, that's without a product key.
> 
> The quesyion is this.
> 
> If I purchase a product key and for some reason I need to completely 
> reinstall windows on my mac with boot camp, will my product key work 
> every time I need to do this? Or, will I need to contact Microsoft for a 
> key reset/reactivation?
> 
> As I said, this is only if it becomes necessary to reinstall a whole new 
> install of windows using bootcamp.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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