Re: Apple tells app developers to disclose or remove screen recording code, TechCrunch

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

I am not chocked. If people can get away with things, they will.

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Feb 2019, at 06.09, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Apple tells app developers to disclose or remove screen recording code
> 6 hours ago
> 
> Apple is telling app developers to remove or properly disclose their use of
> analytics code that allows them to record how a user interacts with their
> iPhone apps - or face removal from the app store, TechCrunch can confirm.
> In an email, an Apple spokesperson said: "Protecting user privacy is
> paramount in the Apple ecosystem. Our App Store Review Guidelines require
> that apps request explicit user consent and provide a clear visual
> indication when recording, logging, or otherwise making a record of user
> activity."
> "We have notified the developers that are in violation of these strict
> privacy terms and guidelines, and will take immediate action if necessary,"
> the spokesperson added.
> It follows an investigation by TechCrunch that revealed major companies,
> like Expedia, Hollister and Hotels.com, were using a third-party analytics
> tool to record every tap and swipe inside the app. We found that none of the
> apps we tested asked the user for permission, and none of the companies said
> in their privacy policies that they were recording a user's app activity.
> Even though sensitive data is supposed to be masked, some data - like
> passport numbers and credit card numbers - was leaking.
> Glassbox is a cross-platform analytics tool that specializes in session
> replay technology. It allows companies to integrate its screen recording
> technology into their apps to replay how a user interacts with the apps.
> Glassbox says it provides the technology, among many reasons, to help reduce
> app error rates. But the company "doesn't enforce its customers" to mention
> that they use Glassbox's screen recording tools in their privacy policies.
> But Apple expressly forbids apps that covertly collect data without a user's
> permission.
> TechCrunch began hearing on Thursday that app developers had already been
> notified that their apps had fallen afoul of Apple's rules. One app
> developer was told by Apple to remove code that recorded app activities,
> citing the company's app store guidelines.
> "Your app uses analytics software to collect and send user or device data to
> a third party without the user's consent. Apps must request explicit user
> consent and provide a clear visual indication when recording, logging, or
> otherwise making a record of user activity," Apple said in the email.
> Apple gave the developer less than a day to remove the code and resubmit
> their app or the app would be removed from the app store, the email said.
> When asked if Glassbox was aware of the app store removals, a spokesperson
> for Glassbox said that "the communication with Apple is through our
> customers."
> Glassbox is also available to Android app developers. Google did not
> immediately comment if it would also ban the screen recording code. Google
> Play also expressly prohibits apps from secretly collecting device usage.
> "Apps must not hide or cloak tracking behavior or attempt to mislead users
> about such functionality," the developer rules state. We'll update if and
> when we hear back.
> It's the latest privacy debacle that has forced Apple to wade in to protect
> its customers after apps were caught misbehaving.
> Last week, TechCrunch reported that Apple banned Facebook's "research" app
> that the social media giant paid teenagers to collect all of their data.
> It followed another investigation by TechCrunch that revealed Facebook
> misused its Apple-issued enterprise developer certificate to build and
> provide apps for consumers outside Apple's App Store. Apple temporarily
> revoked Facebook's enterprise developer certificate, knocking all of the
> company's internal iOS apps offline for close to a day.
> 
> Original Article at::
> https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/07/apple-glassbox-apps/
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Re: menu extras

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Lorie,

You can get to menu extras using Control-F8. `you may need to add the FN key if 
you haven’t switched it in System Preferences.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 8 Feb 2019, at 07:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other than holding down vo 
> and pressing m twice? often when I do that, vo will say "menu extras" twice 
> and not show me anything.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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menu extras

[Lorie McCloud]

is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other than holding down vo and 
pressing m twice? often when I do that, vo will say "menu extras" twice and not 
show me anything.

thanks.
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Re: Sending an email to a sender and not to the same group?

[Lorie McCloud]

I think it depends on how the list is set up. if you don't know, the best thing 
to do is press command-optioon U when you're in the email and find the person's 
email address. it's the command for raw source and there's a bunch of jargon in 
there but you eventually find the sender's email address.

Lorie

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:22 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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> Hi all:
> 
> I was doing this in windows but do not know how can i do that on the Mac mail 
> app.
> I need to send a private email to someone sent his message on the group, how 
> can i do that?
> thanks in advance 
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Sending an email to a sender and not to the same group?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I was doing this in windows but do not know how can i do that on the Mac mail 
app.
I need to send a private email to someone sent his message on the group, how 
can i do that?
thanks in advance 

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Re: Using delete and Application keys on Bootcamp

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi sir:

no delete key here,
i pressed the fn only. but nothing happened.
any ideas?

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:19 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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> To use the delete key, press the FN key in addition to the regular delete 
> key. There’s no equivalent of the application key, as far as I can tell. You 
> can press Shift+F10 and that should do the same thing.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 12:21 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
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>> Hi all:
>> I am using now windows 10 on a bootcamp on a macbook pro 2015, the only 2 
>> keys that i need a help with  are the delete key and the application key, 
>> what can i do to use them?
>> thanks
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Re: Accessible games for mac

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Dead? What do you mean? I played RS Games last night and it was fine.

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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> ok, but what are all these things?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:01 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
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>> If you want ones with sounds, there is 
>> Alteraeon 
>> Kalisti 
>> 
>> Note that you’ll need Homebrew installed, gnu-utils, gnu-sed, and Tintin 
>> installd.
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, and where can i find these text games please?
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Space games? There is cosmic rage.
 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which 
>> use Tintin++, the MUD client.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> rs_games is sort of dead I think
>>> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
>>> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com 
>>> the great toy robbery from l-works.net  and a few 
>>> more.
>>> 
>>> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE >> > wrote:
 Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
 Best wishes
 Julie
 
 Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
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 School of Education
 Durham University
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 Tel: 0191 3348249
 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
 >
 Twitter @joolsled
 
 
 
 On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
 >>> >>
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 Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
 rsgames.org >.
 
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 >>> >> wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games 
 for the
 Mac -
 Best wishes
 Julie
 
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Thanks I will look in to it further as it really looks like a good option - 
does it matter where in the world you are based? i.e. is it just a US service?
Best wishes
Julie

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On 7 Feb 2019, at 21:52, Karen Lewellen 
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:

If you are an individual, not a school there is no limit.
There are blanket passes for schools to engage in converting for their students.
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, RATTRAY, JULIE wrote:

Hi,

Looking at this it might not work for the current issue because it says you 
can’t be linked to an academic institution I guess if you did it as an 
individual that would work but you might find if you tried to do lots it could 
become an issue - this is a pity because it looks like a good solution
Best wishes
Julie

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On 7 Feb 2019, at 18:27, Karen Lewellen 
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
 wrote:

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>>
 wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
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Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Apple tells app developers to disclose or remove screen recording code, TechCrunch

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Apple tells app developers to disclose or remove screen recording code
6 hours ago
 
Apple is telling app developers to remove or properly disclose their use of
analytics code that allows them to record how a user interacts with their
iPhone apps - or face removal from the app store, TechCrunch can confirm.
In an email, an Apple spokesperson said: "Protecting user privacy is
paramount in the Apple ecosystem. Our App Store Review Guidelines require
that apps request explicit user consent and provide a clear visual
indication when recording, logging, or otherwise making a record of user
activity."
"We have notified the developers that are in violation of these strict
privacy terms and guidelines, and will take immediate action if necessary,"
the spokesperson added.
It follows an investigation by TechCrunch that revealed major companies,
like Expedia, Hollister and Hotels.com, were using a third-party analytics
tool to record every tap and swipe inside the app. We found that none of the
apps we tested asked the user for permission, and none of the companies said
in their privacy policies that they were recording a user's app activity.
Even though sensitive data is supposed to be masked, some data - like
passport numbers and credit card numbers - was leaking.
Glassbox is a cross-platform analytics tool that specializes in session
replay technology. It allows companies to integrate its screen recording
technology into their apps to replay how a user interacts with the apps.
Glassbox says it provides the technology, among many reasons, to help reduce
app error rates. But the company "doesn't enforce its customers" to mention
that they use Glassbox's screen recording tools in their privacy policies.
But Apple expressly forbids apps that covertly collect data without a user's
permission.
TechCrunch began hearing on Thursday that app developers had already been
notified that their apps had fallen afoul of Apple's rules. One app
developer was told by Apple to remove code that recorded app activities,
citing the company's app store guidelines.
"Your app uses analytics software to collect and send user or device data to
a third party without the user's consent. Apps must request explicit user
consent and provide a clear visual indication when recording, logging, or
otherwise making a record of user activity," Apple said in the email.
Apple gave the developer less than a day to remove the code and resubmit
their app or the app would be removed from the app store, the email said.
When asked if Glassbox was aware of the app store removals, a spokesperson
for Glassbox said that "the communication with Apple is through our
customers."
Glassbox is also available to Android app developers. Google did not
immediately comment if it would also ban the screen recording code. Google
Play also expressly prohibits apps from secretly collecting device usage.
"Apps must not hide or cloak tracking behavior or attempt to mislead users
about such functionality," the developer rules state. We'll update if and
when we hear back.
It's the latest privacy debacle that has forced Apple to wade in to protect
its customers after apps were caught misbehaving.
Last week, TechCrunch reported that Apple banned Facebook's "research" app
that the social media giant paid teenagers to collect all of their data.
It followed another investigation by TechCrunch that revealed Facebook
misused its Apple-issued enterprise developer certificate to build and
provide apps for consumers outside Apple's App Store. Apple temporarily
revoked Facebook's enterprise developer certificate, knocking all of the
company's internal iOS apps offline for close to a day.

Original Article at::
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Hi,

If it is an academic book or article they might be in a header or footer - 
certainly they are in most journals
Best wishes
Julie

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On 7 Feb 2019, at 20:59, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi:

Thanks so much for this, however the page numbers are not written, we know them 
just from the page itself.
so, willl the Robobraille will keep the same pagination?

On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Karen Lewellen 
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: VM fusion question

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

I do the same ,if it doesn’t work, write again so we can help you.

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Feb 2019, at 04.13, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.
>  
> Let me try and get back.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hema.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
> Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VM fusion question
>  
> Hema,
>  
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
>  
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
>  
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
>  
> Pete De Vasto
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> 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
> Hope I will get a response this time.
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RE: VM fusion question

[Hemachandran Karaha]

Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.

 

Let me try and get back.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM fusion question

 

Hema,

 

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

 

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

 

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

 

Pete De Vasto





On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

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Re: VM fusion podcaast

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   You bet Pete.

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On 2/7/2019 4:16 PM, Pete De Vasto wrote:

Thank you very much, E.T., for chiming in. I had been looking for a way to turn 
VO off but every time I tried to do Command+F5 I couldn’t get it to work. Your 
instructions are very helpful!

Pete


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   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, and be 
careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command while in the 
Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.

   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it to 
boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the keyboard. 
You should now have control in your Windows VM.

   If you want to enter the Mac environment, press command control to ungrab 
the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are now working in 
your Mac.

   When you want back in the VM, command tab to it and when focused on it, 
again press command f5 to turn VO off and press command g to grab the keyboard.

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Hi all,
Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM fusion 
on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.
Warmly,
Hem.
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Re: Adding a signature to my emails

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   That is normal. After  s while, you will get better with things. Go 
back and go through the steps again. Its good practice.


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On 2/7/2019 4:53 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi again,
After having a cup of coffee I tried again, and think I got it this time.
But like most things On this computer, I’m not quite sure  how I did it?
Thanks again,
Petrus


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   Ope








n the mail app. go to its preferences with command comma. go to the signatute 
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then jump to next window where you enter a title. Jump to the next window where 
you enter the actual text of your signature.

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Hi all,
Sorry for this very possibly simple question. As I’m very new to the Mac and 
still teaching myself how to use it I feel overwhelmed on this list sometimes 
with some of the questions that are asked, as I have know idea what people are 
talking about most of the time.
I’m trying to add a signature to my emails but I’m still can’t work it  out.
I’m using the native mail app on the Mac. Once I’ve gotten past the subject 
field and it has the signature popup button, it actually says none signature  , 
I press V O space to open the options. It has: None, ticked, and edit 
signatures. So I open the edit option and I can find the signature I want in 
the edit field  but the button to choose the signature I  want is greyed out.
Thank you in advance for any help,
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Re: Adding a signature to my emails

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi again,
After having a cup of coffee I tried again, and think I got it this time. 
But like most things On this computer, I’m not quite sure  how I did it?
Thanks again,
Petrus 

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>   Ope






> n the mail app. go to its preferences with command comma. go to the signatute 
> tab. Under that tsb, if you only have one email account, find it in the fable 
> then jump to next window where you enter a title. Jump to the next window 
> where you enter the actual text of your signature.
> 
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>> Hi all,
>> Sorry for this very possibly simple question. As I’m very new to the Mac and 
>> still teaching myself how to use it I feel overwhelmed on this list 
>> sometimes with some of the questions that are asked, as I have know idea 
>> what people are talking about most of the time.
>> I’m trying to add a signature to my emails but I’m still can’t work it  out.
>> I’m using the native mail app on the Mac. Once I’ve gotten past the subject 
>> field and it has the signature popup button, it actually says none signature 
>>  , I press V O space to open the options. It has: None, ticked, and edit 
>> signatures. So I open the edit option and I can find the signature I want in 
>> the edit field  but the button to choose the signature I  want is greyed out.
>> Thank you in advance for any help,
>> Petrus
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Will give it a try tomorrow 

Thanks in advance 

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>   After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you will 
> have access to the same folder.
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>> On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
>> if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
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 On 2/7/2019 1:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hi all:
 I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. 
 can i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
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Re: Adding a signature to my emails

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thank for trying to help. But that didn’t get me any further as I could not 
find my email account in the table. I only have the one email account. Unless 
it’s google  I have to select, as my email is gmail?  I might give it another 
go soon, but I’ll have to get ready for work soon. 
Take care,
Petrus 

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>   Open the mail app. go to its preferences with command comma. go to the 
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> the fable then jump to next window where you enter a title. Jump to the next 
> window where you enter the actual text of your signature.
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>> Sorry for this very possibly simple question. As I’m very new to the Mac and 
>> still teaching myself how to use it I feel overwhelmed on this list 
>> sometimes with some of the questions that are asked, as I have know idea 
>> what people are talking about most of the time.
>> I’m trying to add a signature to my emails but I’m still can’t work it  out.
>> I’m using the native mail app on the Mac. Once I’ve gotten past the subject 
>> field and it has the signature popup button, it actually says none signature 
>>  , I press V O space to open the options. It has: None, ticked, and edit 
>> signatures. So I open the edit option and I can find the signature I want in 
>> the edit field  but the button to choose the signature I  want is greyed out.
>> Thank you in advance for any help,
>> Petrus
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Re: VM fusion podcaast

[Pete De Vasto]

Thank you very much, E.T., for chiming in. I had been looking for a way to turn 
VO off but every time I tried to do Command+F5 I couldn’t get it to work. Your 
instructions are very helpful!

Pete

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>   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, and be 
> careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command while in the 
> Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.
> 
>   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it to 
> boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the keyboard. 
> You should now have control in your Windows VM.
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> the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are now working in 
> your Mac.
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>> Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM 
>> fusion on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.
>> Warmly,
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Re: VM fusion podcaast

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, 
and be careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command 
while in the Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.


   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it 
to boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the 
keyboard. You should now have control in your Windows VM.


   If you want to enter the Mac environment, press command control to 
ungrab the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are 
now working in your Mac.


   When you want back in the VM, command tab to it and when focused on 
it, again press command f5 to turn VO off and press command g to grab 
the keyboard.


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On 2/4/2019 4:01 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:

Hi all,

Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM 
fusion on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.


Warmly,

Hem.

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Re: Accessible Web Browsers Other Than Safari

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Chrome for Mac would be worth trying. I don't know about its Java support 
though.

On 2/7/19, 18:11, "Pete De Vasto"  wrote:

Hi,

For the first time after upgrading to Mojave, I ran into a web site that 
uses the Java applets, and learned that with Safari 12 and higher, Java is no 
longer supported. If that’s in fact true, I guess I need to find another 
browser for my Mac that does support Java if I want to continue using that web 
site. I realize it’s been discussed before, but I’d like to hear some thoughts 
about what browsers others are using that are Accessible.

Thanks,
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Re: VM fusion question

[Pete De Vasto]

Hema,

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

Pete De Vasto

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>  
> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
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Re: VM fusion question

[KliphnShari Miller]

When fusion is running, it depends on how you have things setup.  But I use 
command tab to go between both systems


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Re: Adding a signature to my emails

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Open the mail app. go to its preferences with command comma. go to 
the signatute tab. Under that tsb, if you only have one email account, 
find it in the fable then jump to next window where you enter a title. 
Jump to the next window where you enter the actual text of your signature.


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On 2/7/2019 3:03 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Hi all,
Sorry for this very possibly simple question. As I’m very new to the Mac and 
still teaching myself how to use it I feel overwhelmed on this list sometimes 
with some of the questions that are asked, as I have know idea what people are 
talking about most of the time.

I’m trying to add a signature to my emails but I’m still can’t work it  out.
I’m using the native mail app on the Mac. Once I’ve gotten past the subject 
field and it has the signature popup button, it actually says none signature  , 
I press V O space to open the options. It has: None, ticked, and edit 
signatures. So I open the edit option and I can find the signature I want in 
the edit field  but the button to choose the signature I  want is greyed out.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Petrus



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Accessible Web Browsers Other Than Safari

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi,

For the first time after upgrading to Mojave, I ran into a web site that uses 
the Java applets, and learned that with Safari 12 and higher, Java is no longer 
supported. If that’s in fact true, I guess I need to find another browser for 
my Mac that does support Java if I want to continue using that web site. I 
realize it’s been discussed before, but I’d like to hear some thoughts about 
what browsers others are using that are Accessible.

Thanks,
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Adding a signature to my emails

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
Sorry for this very possibly simple question. As I’m very new to the Mac and 
still teaching myself how to use it I feel overwhelmed on this list sometimes 
with some of the questions that are asked, as I have know idea what people are 
talking about most of the time. 

I’m trying to add a signature to my emails but I’m still can’t work it  out. 
I’m using the native mail app on the Mac. Once I’ve gotten past the subject 
field and it has the signature popup button, it actually says none signature  , 
I press V O space to open the options. It has: None, ticked, and edit 
signatures. So I open the edit option and I can find the signature I want in 
the edit field  but the button to choose the signature I  want is greyed out. 
Thank you in advance for any help,
Petrus 

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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you 
will have access to the same folder.


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On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
Dropbox account.

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Hi all:
I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can i 
use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
Thanks in advance


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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Karen Lewellen]

Yes, I understand this.  However if the source document does not provide 
its   own page numbers, then it is unlikely anyone will  match that 
correctly.
For example if your source  is an electronic copy of a published   work 
that normally has other identifiers, chapter, paragraph etc., you  may get 
something that works.  Still,  because pdf files appear differently  the 
page numbers  are not likely to be consistent even without converting the 
file in my experience.




On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


Hi:

We need to Write the Correct page numbers as a Proof in our words.



On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:01 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

granted I did not see an example of your goal documents.  still as you spoke   
of research, my thought was that you were using existing documents  from which 
you were taking published information.
robobraille  converts the contents of a pdf file into another format, say rtf 
or text or html.
If your source document has no  provided page numbers, then why does the exact 
page number matter out of curiosity?
After all, pdf files appear differently in different readers meaning the page 
numbers might vary from program to program.

Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


Hi:

Thanks so much for this, however the page numbers are not written, we know them 
just from the page itself.
so, willl the Robobraille will keep the same pagination?


On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.



On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled




On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

We need to Write the Correct page numbers as a Proof in our words.


> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:01 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> granted I did not see an example of your goal documents.  still as you spoke  
>  of research, my thought was that you were using existing documents  from 
> which you were taking published information.
> robobraille  converts the contents of a pdf file into another format, say rtf 
> or text or html.
> If your source document has no  provided page numbers, then why does the 
> exact page number matter out of curiosity?
> After all, pdf files appear differently in different readers meaning the page 
> numbers might vary from program to program.
> 
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Thanks so much for this, however the page numbers are not written, we know 
>> them just from the page itself.
>> so, willl the Robobraille will keep the same pagination?
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
>>> If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
>>> www.robobraille.org
>>> which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
>>> conv...@robobraille.org
>>> With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are 
>>> actually  in the file, that information  remains.
>>> By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those 
>>> numbers will still be there, at least using robobraille.
>>> Just a thought,
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>>> 
 No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to 
 insert it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose 
 the correct number of page.
 
 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
> School of Education
> Durham University
> Leazes Road
> DURHAM
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 3348249
> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
> Twitter @joolsled
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has 
>> some Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using 
>> Arrows, can not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between 
>> lines and pages.
>> any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Karen Lewellen]

granted I did not see an example of your goal documents.  still as you 
spoke   of research, my thought was that you were using existing 
documents  from which you were taking published information.
robobraille  converts the contents of a pdf file into another format, say 
rtf or text or html.
If your source document has no  provided page numbers, then why does the 
exact page number matter out of curiosity?
After all, pdf files appear differently in different readers meaning the 
page numbers might vary from program to program.


Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


Hi:

Thanks so much for this, however the page numbers are not written, we know them 
just from the page itself.
so, willl the Robobraille will keep the same pagination?


On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.



On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled




On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Karen Lewellen]

If you are an individual, not a school there is no limit.
There are blanket passes for schools to engage in converting for their 
students.

Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, RATTRAY, JULIE wrote:


Hi,

Looking at this it might not work for the current issue because it says you 
can???t be linked to an academic institution I guess if you did it as an 
individual that would work but you might find if you tried to do lots it could 
become an issue - this is a pity because it looks like a good solution
Best wishes
Julie

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School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled



On 7 Feb 2019, at 18:27, Karen Lewellen 
mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: 
julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled



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mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>>
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Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: Accessible games for mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

ok, but what are all these things?



> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:01 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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> If you want ones with sounds, there is 
> Alteraeon 
> Kalisti 
> 
> Note that you’ll need Homebrew installed, gnu-utils, gnu-sed, and Tintin 
> installd.
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, and where can i find these text games please?
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Space games? There is cosmic rage.
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi:
 
 Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?
 
 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which 
> use Tintin++, the MUD client.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez > > wrote:
>> 
>> rs_games is sort of dead I think
>> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
>> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com 
>> the great toy robbery from l-works.net  and a few 
>> more.
>> 
>> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE > > wrote:
>>> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
>>> 
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>>> School of Education
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>>> DURHAM
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>>> 
>>> Tel: 0191 3348249
>>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
>>> >> >
>>> Twitter @joolsled
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
>>> >> >>  >>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
>>> rsgames.org >> >.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shawn,
>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for 
>>> the
>>> Mac -
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
>>> 
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
> Dropbox account.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 2/7/2019 1:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can 
>> i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

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   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can 
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Hi all:

I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can i 
use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
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Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

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Hi all:

I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can i 
use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
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Re: my mac pages, Reading the page number

[Ramy Moustafa]

thanks so much for this


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> VO-f3 should work.  Make sure that you have interacted with the document 
> area.  Depending on how you've configured your keyboard settings, you may 
> also need to add the FN key to the VO-f3 combination.
> 
> Regarding changing the Font size quickly, use cmd-plus to increase Font size 
> and cmd-minus to decrease it.  Note, I've written the words out in full, but 
> the command uses the plus and minus symbols.  If the text is highlighted, 
> then the cmd-plus will only increase the size of the selected text.  Regular 
> word processing properties will also be applied.  That is, cursor location is 
> important.  When text is not selected, pressing cmd-plus only affects the 
> font size at the cursor location.  If the cursor is at the end of the 
> document, all future text will be at the new size until you change it.  If 
> the cursor is in the middle of some text, only the new text will have the new 
> size.  Use VO-t to determine the current text properties including size, 
> font, colour and style.
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> HTH.
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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 02:49, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
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> Hi Anna and all:
> 
> I read in my mac pages book that i can read the page number Using Vo+f3, but 
> it’s not working here.
> any tips on how to achieve this?
> and, is there a quick way to change the n font size?
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

Thanks so much for this, however the page numbers are not written, we know them 
just from the page itself.
so, willl the Robobraille will keep the same pagination?

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
> If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
> www.robobraille.org
> which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
> conv...@robobraille.org
> With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually 
>  in the file, that information  remains.
> By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those 
> numbers will still be there, at least using robobraille.
> Just a thought,
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
> 
>> No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to 
>> insert it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the 
>> correct number of page.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
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>>> Twitter @joolsled
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>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
 Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can 
 not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and 
 pages.
 any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
 
 
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

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Simon,
   Did you have the 4th before you got the 4K? I looked at the specs 
again. Besides BT 5 on the 4K, it also supports dual band wifi. That 
might be nice. Christmas is still a long way off.


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On 2/6/2019 10:30 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

ET,

There is also the fact the 4k does 4k resolution  where as the 4 doesn't

  For the difference in price I'd say go the 4k.
Infact I did a couple of years ago when it came out.




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 One difference in the two models is that the 4K has Bluetooth 5. I don't 
know if that is important, the only Bluetooth device I may want in future are 
headphones. Is maximum range improved over BT 4 and lower?

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Hi,

Yeah, the 4K would be nice, but I don't have a good reason to get one
yet.  The 4 works just fine and I don't have that many TV's in my
house to justify more Apple TV's.  Now, if I could just get a HomePod
for about half-price, my life would be great.

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On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

    Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending
the code. And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new
technology in this way.

    I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K
would be best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long
ways off. :)

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Hi,
Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that
they are using older technology that is not always easy to make work
within today's security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing
that being able to append the verification code is even possible.
That makes it kind of squash their complaints in that Apple is making
it possible to do this higher security process on devices that
normally don't have this level of security possible.
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   I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at
the comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have
survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something.
And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the
comments explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs,
Made sense.
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Yay.  Good job.
Later...
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> wrote:
   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the
code. And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.
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Hi,
Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the
code on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it.
I just use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical
remote to enter the six digits and voila, all done.
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> wrote:
   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am
doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close
the dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I
must be nuking the code. I will have to 

Re: Switching between spaces with VO

[Jürgen Fleger]

Ok, got it. And I agree fully that Apple keeps making all of their products 
accessible. Very valuable.

Jürgen



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> Am 07.02.2019 um 21:26 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Jürgen,
> 
> Actually, I don't really use it myself.  I mostly was just responding to let 
> people know that it is truly accessible.  You are correct in that it is not 
> organized in a logical manner from a VO person's prospective.  If you did 
> have a lot of apps open each with multiple windows, some may find it quicker 
> to use Mission Control, although you could just use the Application Chooser 
> with the same or quicker results.  It mostly just goes to show that Apple is 
> making sure that all their stock apps and features are accessible for the 
> most part.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 13:17, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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Re: Switching between spaces with VO

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Hi Jürgen,

Actually, I don't really use it myself.  I mostly was just responding to let 
people know that it is truly accessible.  You are correct in that it is not 
organized in a logical manner from a VO person's prospective.  If you did have 
a lot of apps open each with multiple windows, some may find it quicker to use 
Mission Control, although you could just use the Application Chooser with the 
same or quicker results.  It mostly just goes to show that Apple is making sure 
that all their stock apps and features are accessible for the most part.

Later...

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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Jürgen

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Re: Switching between spaces with VO

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hello Tim,

I tried it out and it really works fine. But I couldn’t see a logical order. 
Could you explain a little more what you mean and how you use Mission Control?

Thanks and all the best
Jürgen


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> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Mission Control is totally accessible.  If you are the kind of user that has 
> many windows open in many applications all at once, then Mission Control 
> could be quite useful.  Once in Mission Control, all apps and open windows 
> within those apps is listed in a logical fashion.  So, you could go into 
> Mission Control, quickly find the window within the given app you wish to 
> access fairly easily.  Probably quicker and easier than cycling with cmd-tab 
> then cmd-accent.  I'd say that it mostly has to do with your style of usage.
> 
> L
> Tim Kilburn
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> 
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> 
> Hi,
> just because I'm curious: I assumed Mission Control and Spaces as useless for 
> VoiceOver users. But maybe this was a false assumtion. So could you help me 
> to understand in which cases these tools are useful for blind users? Why do 
> you want to use them?
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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> Am 07.01.2019 um 14:31 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't use One Password, so can't totally replicate the issue, but 
>> sometimes, when cycling through apps with cmd-tab, it doesn't cycle 
>> logically.  I suggest you press the cmd-tab, then wait to hear what app it 
>> has chosen to bring focus to.  Regarding the Magic Trackpad, if TrackPad 
>> Commander is on, then do a three-finger swipe left or right to move between 
>> app/spaces.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 7, 2019, at 10:07, Paul Hopewell > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> I am using VoiceOver on the latest level of Mojave on my 2017 
>> iMac.
>> 
>> I would like to run all my applications in full screen mode, which results 
>> in each application having its own Space. In particular I want to run 1 
>> password in full screen mode.
>> 
>> My sighted wife tells me that when I cycle between applications using 
>> Command+Tab  the 1 password window briefly appears in full screen mode but 
>> then disappears again. I have looked at mission control and can sometimes 
>> use Control+arrow keys to make the 1 password window remain on the screen 
>> where I can then use it, but I am not sure exactly what I do to achieve 
>> this. 
>> 
>> Is there any reliable way to use VO with either keyboard hot keys or the 
>> magic trackpad to move between full screen windows each in its own Space?
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips.
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Hi,

Looking at this it might not work for the current issue because it says you 
can’t be linked to an academic institution I guess if you did it as an 
individual that would work but you might find if you tried to do lots it could 
become an issue - this is a pity because it looks like a good solution
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Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are actually  
in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers incorporated, those numbers 
will still be there, at least using robobraille.
Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


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mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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School of Education
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Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
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Re: Notifications

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   That might well be it. Usually I scroll up from the dock to open 
directly what I want in System prefs. So I will try it your way next time.


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Hi,

I don't believe that there is a specific setting, but normally when that 
happens, the System Prefs will open to the offending pane.  So, for 
example, if there is something that needs your attention in the iCloud 
pane, it will be the one that System Prefs will open to.


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> wrote:


   The other day the System Preferences app on the dock indicated a new 
item. But what item was it? Eventually I found it. So am wondering if 
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Re: Notifications

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Hi,

I don't believe that there is a specific setting, but normally when that 
happens, the System Prefs will open to the offending pane.  So, for example, if 
there is something that needs your attention in the iCloud pane, it will be the 
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  The other day the System Preferences app on the dock indicated a new item. 
But what item was it? Eventually I found it. So am wondering if there is a 
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Re: DBT help

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   Very good, a brownie point for Chuck. (smiles)

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On 2/7/2019 9:45 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

Hey ET,
Wasn't that the british?
Romans chap 13?
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:11 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:


   Please please, burn down the white house again. its residents need to know 
what its like to be homeless in the worst way. :)

   Balmy weather up there now? I guess ours is too.

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On 2/7/2019 7:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Simon,
No Simon, we disassociated ourselves with our southern neighbour hundreds of 
years ago.  In fact, when they attempted to invade us, we fended them off and 
promptly went down and burned down the Whitehouse.   We've since mended our 
differences, although we still tend to disagree with certain administration's 
points of view.  Enough said on that part of the subject :).
We even make our own Maple candy that is made by pouring Maple Syrup into snow. 
 It solidifies rather quickly right now.  Forest fires in New Zealand now, 
that's unfortunate.  We've had a lot of them over the past number of years, and 
I know from personal experience how devastating they can be.  Hope the fires 
stay away from your neck of the woods.
Later... from the much warmer north.  It was only -33 C this morning, almost 
didn't need my mittens :).
Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 6, 2019, at 22:58, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hang on Tim,
Canadians have whiskey and club soda?
Also, you have a Daughter and a Wife,
And here I thought Canadia was just the northern state of the USA
But it sounds like it’s a real place, of it’s own!
*From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
*Sent:*Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:06 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:*Re: DBT help
Hi,
Glad that you found a solution.  Didn't want to encourage such behaviour so 
early in the morning.  Although, it's likely 5 o'clock somewhere.   Canadian 
whiskey is also tasty in coffee according to my wife.
Later...
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:01, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Dear all,
OK so I have cracked it! But it is silly - instead of trying to move round the 
dialogue box I just hit enter and it opened the file - not sure if I feel 
stupid for not trying this in the first place or puzzled that it lets me do it 
but won’t let me navigate the box - will inform Duxbury of the whole issue but 
glad for now to have found a solution.
Thanks for all the different suggestions - turns out I won’t need whisky in the 
morning coffee after all
Best wishes
Julie
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School of Education
Durham University
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On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:56, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi,
Will try that - just tried ET’s suggestion of quick nav but even
with it off it just closes the programme - going to look at cursor
tracking now - will keep you updated
Best wishes
Julie
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School of Education
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On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:54, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Another thing to try is turning off Cursor Tracking. Sometimes
when focus tries to follow the VoiceOver cursor vice-versus the
application gets totally confused. Obviously if they had tested
this panel while using VoiceOver, it could have been corrected.
So, even if you can get around by turning off cursor tracking
make sure Duxberry is aware.
On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  I'm running in demo mode. I did not land in that table
(which I do in the Windows version). So just a guess. Is
Quick Nav on? QN can do strange things. If you interacted
then chose a translation table did you stop interacting?
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Notifications

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

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item. But what item was it? Eventually I found it. So am wondering if 
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
Not necessarily depending on the tool and document in question.
If you use the converting options provided by robobraille,
www.robobraille.org
which  includes an e-mail conversion  tool,
conv...@robobraille.org
With your choosing the format you wish, then if the page numbers are 
actually  in the file, that information  remains.
By which I mean, if your document has page numbers  incorporated, those 
numbers will still be there, at least using robobraille.

Just a thought,
Kare



On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.



On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
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School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled




On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: Strange e-Mail

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   You can always go directly to their website and download the update.

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On 2/7/2019 10:15 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

Hei,

today I received an e-Mail by Assistiveware. I use InfoVoxes and so it might be 
a real e-mail. But I’m not sure because the content of the e-mail is very 
short. It just asks me tu update the InfoVox Manager. Not a single word why or 
what might be new.

Now I’m not sure whether this could be spam containing maleware in the 
downloadable file which is promoted in the e-mail.

The e-Mail has as subject: Important Infovox iVox information

Has anyone received this e-mail as well and could tell me more about it?

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Strange e-Mail

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hei,

today I received an e-Mail by Assistiveware. I use InfoVoxes and so it might be 
a real e-mail. But I’m not sure because the content of the e-mail is very 
short. It just asks me tu update the InfoVox Manager. Not a single word why or 
what might be new.

Now I’m not sure whether this could be spam containing maleware in the 
downloadable file which is promoted in the e-mail.

The e-Mail has as subject: Important Infovox iVox information

Has anyone received this e-mail as well and could tell me more about it?

All the best
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Re: my mac pages, Reading the page number

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

VO-f3 should work.  Make sure that you have interacted with the document area.  
Depending on how you've configured your keyboard settings, you may also need to 
add the FN key to the VO-f3 combination.

Regarding changing the Font size quickly, use cmd-plus to increase Font size 
and cmd-minus to decrease it.  Note, I've written the words out in full, but 
the command uses the plus and minus symbols.  If the text is highlighted, then 
the cmd-plus will only increase the size of the selected text.  Regular word 
processing properties will also be applied.  That is, cursor location is 
important.  When text is not selected, pressing cmd-plus only affects the font 
size at the cursor location.  If the cursor is at the end of the document, all 
future text will be at the new size until you change it.  If the cursor is in 
the middle of some text, only the new text will have the new size.  Use VO-t to 
determine the current text properties including size, font, colour and style.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 7, 2019, at 02:49, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi Anna and all:

I read in my mac pages book that i can read the page number Using Vo+f3, but 
it’s not working here.
any tips on how to achieve this?
and, is there a quick way to change the n font size?

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Re: Accessible games for mac

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

If you want ones with sounds, there is 
Alteraeon 
Kalisti 

Note that you’ll need Homebrew installed, gnu-utils, gnu-sed, and Tintin 
installd.
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Ok, and where can i find these text games please?
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Space games? There is cosmic rage.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which 
 use Tintin++, the MUD client.
 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> 
> rs_games is sort of dead I think
> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
> the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.
> 
> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
>> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> 
>> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
>> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>> School of Education
>> Durham University
>> Leazes Road
>> DURHAM
>> DH1 1TA
>> 
>> Tel: 0191 3348249
>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
>> Twitter @joolsled
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>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
>> rsgames.org.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>> 
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
>> mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for 
>> the
>> Mac -
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> 
>> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
>> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>> School of Education
>> Durham University
>> Leazes Road
>> DURHAM
>> DH1 1TA
>> 
>> Tel: 0191 3348249
>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
>> Twitter @joolsled
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Re: Accessible games for mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ok, and where can i find these text games please?

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:51 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Space games? There is cosmic rage.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which 
>>> use Tintin++, the MUD client.
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
 
 rs_games is sort of dead I think
 as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
 Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
 the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.
 
 On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
> School of Education
> Durham University
> Leazes Road
> DURHAM
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 3348249
> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
> Twitter @joolsled
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
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> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
> rsgames.org.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
> mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for 
> the
> Mac -
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
> School of Education
> Durham University
> Leazes Road
> DURHAM
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 3348249
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Re: Accessible games for mac

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

Space games? There is cosmic rage.

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which use 
>> Tintin++, the MUD client.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>>> 
>>> rs_games is sort of dead I think
>>> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
>>> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
>>> the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.
>>> 
>>> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
 Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
 Best wishes
 Julie
 
 Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
 Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
 School of Education
 Durham University
 Leazes Road
 DURHAM
 DH1 1TA
 
 Tel: 0191 3348249
 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
 Twitter @joolsled
 
 
 
 On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 wrote:
 
 Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
 rsgames.org.
 
 Regards,
 Shawn,
 Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
 
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
 On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
 mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for the
 Mac -
 Best wishes
 Julie
 
 Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
 Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
 School of Education
 Durham University
 Leazes Road
 DURHAM
 DH1 1TA
 
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Hi,

I use pages I find whilst word is better than it was it is still clunky at 
times and I feel like I have more control with pages.
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled



On 7 Feb 2019, at 17:41, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi:

Just a quick question in replying that you are a Researcher also, are you 
working using Pages or office on windows?
til now i can not make my final decision on what to do to finalize my work.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:19 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi,

I think with Prismo it keeps original pagination but of course you would need 
to double check this - I am also a researcher so I appreciate the issue for you 
here and I am sure I resolved a similar issue like this in the past using 
Prismo but I could be wrong.

I think unless you have a PDF editor there won’t be a perfect solution - others 
on this list may know of a good PDF editor which works with VO that would let 
you do this - and I would be interested in the possibilities
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled



On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:15, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled



On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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VM fusion question

[Hemachandran Karaha]

Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

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Re: DBT help

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hey ET,
Wasn't that the british?
Romans chap 13?
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:11 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

>   Please please, burn down the white house again. its residents need to know 
> what its like to be homeless in the worst way. :)
> 
>   Balmy weather up there now? I guess ours is too.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/7/2019 7:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Simon,
>> No Simon, we disassociated ourselves with our southern neighbour hundreds of 
>> years ago.  In fact, when they attempted to invade us, we fended them off 
>> and promptly went down and burned down the Whitehouse.   We've since mended 
>> our differences, although we still tend to disagree with certain 
>> administration's points of view.  Enough said on that part of the subject :).
>> We even make our own Maple candy that is made by pouring Maple Syrup into 
>> snow.  It solidifies rather quickly right now.  Forest fires in New Zealand 
>> now, that's unfortunate.  We've had a lot of them over the past number of 
>> years, and I know from personal experience how devastating they can be.  
>> Hope the fires stay away from your neck of the woods.
>> Later... from the much warmer north.  It was only -33 C this morning, almost 
>> didn't need my mittens :).
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 22:58, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> Hang on Tim,
>> Canadians have whiskey and club soda?
>> Also, you have a Daughter and a Wife,
>> And here I thought Canadia was just the northern state of the USA
>> But it sounds like it’s a real place, of it’s own!
>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > >
>> *Sent:*Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:06 AM
>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:*Re: DBT help
>> Hi,
>> Glad that you found a solution.  Didn't want to encourage such behaviour so 
>> early in the morning.  Although, it's likely 5 o'clock somewhere.   Canadian 
>> whiskey is also tasty in coffee according to my wife.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:01, RATTRAY, JULIE > > wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> OK so I have cracked it! But it is silly - instead of trying to move round 
>> the dialogue box I just hit enter and it opened the file - not sure if I 
>> feel stupid for not trying this in the first place or puzzled that it lets 
>> me do it but won’t let me navigate the box - will inform Duxbury of the 
>> whole issue but glad for now to have found a solution.
>> Thanks for all the different suggestions - turns out I won’t need whisky in 
>> the morning coffee after all
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
>> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>> School of Education
>> Durham University
>> Leazes Road
>> DURHAM
>> DH1 1TA
>> Tel: 0191 3348249
>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
>> Twitter @joolsled
>>On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:56, RATTRAY, JULIE >> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>Will try that - just tried ET’s suggestion of quick nav but even
>>with it off it just closes the programme - going to look at cursor
>>tracking now - will keep you updated
>>Best wishes
>>Julie
>>Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
>>Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>>School of Education
>>Durham University
>>Leazes Road
>>DURHAM
>>DH1 1TA
>>Tel: 0191 3348249
>>Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
>>Twitter @joolsled
>>On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:54, Jonathan Cohn >> wrote:
>>Another thing to try is turning off Cursor Tracking. Sometimes
>>when focus tries to follow the VoiceOver cursor vice-versus the
>>application gets totally confused. Obviously if they had tested
>>this panel while using VoiceOver, it could have been corrected.
>>So, even if you can get around by turning off cursor tracking
>>make sure Duxberry is aware.
>>On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>> wrote:
>>  I'm running in demo mode. I did not land in that table
>>(which I do in the Windows version). So just a guess. Is
>>Quick Nav on? QN can do strange things. If you interacted
>>then chose a translation table did you stop interacting?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

Just a quick question in replying that you are a Researcher also, are you 
working using Pages or office on windows?
til now i can not make my final decision on what to do to finalize my work.


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:19 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think with Prismo it keeps original pagination but of course you would need 
> to double check this - I am also a researcher so I appreciate the issue for 
> you here and I am sure I resolved a similar issue like this in the past using 
> Prismo but I could be wrong.
> 
> I think unless you have a PDF editor there won’t be a perfect solution - 
> others on this list may know of a good PDF editor which works with VO that 
> would let you do this - and I would be interested in the possibilities 
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
> School of Education 
> Durham University 
> Leazes Road 
> DURHAM 
> DH1 1TA
> 
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> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
> Twitter @joolsled 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:15, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to 
>> insert it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the 
>> correct number of page.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo 
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
>>> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>>> School of Education 
>>> Durham University 
>>> Leazes Road 
>>> DURHAM 
>>> DH1 1TA
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>>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
 Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can 
 not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and 
 pages.
 any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
 
 
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Re: Accessible games for mac

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

Can we find a game it’s was like Meriani or something?


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:46 PM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which use 
> Tintin++, the MUD client.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
>> 
>> rs_games is sort of dead I think
>> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
>> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
>> the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.
>> 
>> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
>>> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
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>>> 
>>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
>>> rsgames.org.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shawn,
>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
>>> mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for the
>>> Mac -
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
>>> 
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my mac pages, Reading the page number

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi Anna and all:

I read in my mac pages book that i can read the page number Using Vo+f3, but 
it’s not working here.
any tips on how to achieve this?
and, is there a quick way to change the n font size?

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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Pete Nalda]

I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it possible 
the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to use their 
wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 here at Austiin 
Community college. 

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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Jonathan:
> 
> Yes, I tried searching online for 
> +wifi +"no signal"
> 
> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In the
> time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything that
> actually seemed pertinent.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe that 
>> UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
>> international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
>> primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you 
>> had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? 
>> I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to 
>> be configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
>> Did you try a web search?
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
>>> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
>>> able to use wifi.
>>> 
>>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
>>> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
>>> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
>>> 
>>> Let me be clear:
>>> 
>>> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
>>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
>>> 
>>> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
>>> signal." But,
>>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
>>> 
>>> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
>>> 
>>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
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Re: DBT help

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Please please, burn down the white house again. its residents need 
to know what its like to be homeless in the worst way. :)


   Balmy weather up there now? I guess ours is too.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/7/2019 7:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Simon,

No Simon, we disassociated ourselves with our southern neighbour 
hundreds of years ago.  In fact, when they attempted to invade us, we 
fended them off and promptly went down and burned down the Whitehouse. 
  We've since mended our differences, although we still tend to disagree 
with certain administration's points of view.  Enough said on that part 
of the subject :).


We even make our own Maple candy that is made by pouring Maple Syrup 
into snow.  It solidifies rather quickly right now.  Forest fires in New 
Zealand now, that's unfortunate.  We've had a lot of them over the past 
number of years, and I know from personal experience how devastating 
they can be.  Hope the fires stay away from your neck of the woods.


Later... from the much warmer north.  It was only -33 C this morning, 
almost didn't need my mittens :).


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 22:58, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


Hang on Tim,
Canadians have whiskey and club soda?
Also, you have a Daughter and a Wife,
And here I thought Canadia was just the northern state of the USA
But it sounds like it’s a real place, of it’s own!
*From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >

*Sent:*Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:06 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


*Subject:*Re: DBT help
Hi,
Glad that you found a solution.  Didn't want to encourage such behaviour 
so early in the morning.  Although, it's likely 5 o'clock somewhere. 
  Canadian whiskey is also tasty in coffee according to my wife.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:01, RATTRAY, JULIE > wrote:

Dear all,
OK so I have cracked it! But it is silly - instead of trying to move 
round the dialogue box I just hit enter and it opened the file - not 
sure if I feel stupid for not trying this in the first place or puzzled 
that it lets me do it but won’t let me navigate the box - will inform 
Duxbury of the whole issue but glad for now to have found a solution.
Thanks for all the different suggestions - turns out I won’t need whisky 
in the morning coffee after all

Best wishes
Julie
Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA
Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled


On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:56, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi,
Will try that - just tried ET’s suggestion of quick nav but even
with it off it just closes the programme - going to look at cursor
tracking now - will keep you updated
Best wishes
Julie
Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA
Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled


On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:54, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Another thing to try is turning off Cursor Tracking. Sometimes
when focus tries to follow the VoiceOver cursor vice-versus the
application gets totally confused. Obviously if they had tested
this panel while using VoiceOver, it could have been corrected.
So, even if you can get around by turning off cursor tracking
make sure Duxberry is aware.


On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  I'm running in demo mode. I did not land in that table
(which I do in the Windows version). So just a guess. Is
Quick Nav on? QN can do strange things. If you interacted
then chose a translation table did you stop interacting?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/5/2019 9:18 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Hmmm.  That sounds like a job for DBT support people.
  If they use some sort of proprietary Open dialog
instead of the bulb-in MacOS dialog, it might cause
issues.  

Re: DBT help

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,

No Simon, we disassociated ourselves with our southern neighbour hundreds of 
years ago.  In fact, when they attempted to invade us, we fended them off and 
promptly went down and burned down the Whitehouse.  We've since mended our 
differences, although we still tend to disagree with certain administration's 
points of view.  Enough said on that part of the subject :).

We even make our own Maple candy that is made by pouring Maple Syrup into snow. 
 It solidifies rather quickly right now.  Forest fires in New Zealand now, 
that's unfortunate.  We've had a lot of them over the past number of years, and 
I know from personal experience how devastating they can be.  Hope the fires 
stay away from your neck of the woods.

Later... from the much warmer north.  It was only -33 C this morning, almost 
didn't need my mittens :).

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 22:58, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hang on Tim,
 
Canadians have whiskey and club soda?
 
Also, you have a Daughter and a Wife,
 
And here I thought Canadia was just the northern state of the USA
But it sounds like it’s a real place, of it’s own!
 
 
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DBT help
 
Hi,
 
Glad that you found a solution.  Didn't want to encourage such behaviour so 
early in the morning.  Although, it's likely 5 o'clock somewhere.  Canadian 
whiskey is also tasty in coffee according to my wife.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:01, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
 
Dear all, 
 
OK so I have cracked it! But it is silly - instead of trying to move round the 
dialogue box I just hit enter and it opened the file - not sure if I feel 
stupid for not trying this in the first place or puzzled that it lets me do it 
but won’t let me navigate the box - will inform Duxbury of the whole issue but 
glad for now to have found a solution.
 
Thanks for all the different suggestions - turns out I won’t need whisky in the 
morning coffee after all  
Best wishes
Julie
 
Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education 
Durham University 
Leazes Road 
DURHAM 
DH1 1TA
 
Tel: 0191 3348249 
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled 
 
 


On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:56, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
 
Hi, 
 
Will try that - just tried ET’s suggestion of quick nav but even with it off it 
just closes the programme - going to look at cursor tracking now - will keep 
you updated 
Best wishes
Julie
 
Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education 
Durham University 
Leazes Road 
DURHAM 
DH1 1TA
 
Tel: 0191 3348249 
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
Twitter @joolsled 
 
 


On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:54, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Another thing to try is turning off Cursor Tracking. Sometimes when focus tries 
to follow the VoiceOver cursor vice-versus the application gets totally 
confused. Obviously if they had tested this panel while using VoiceOver, it 
could have been corrected. 
So, even if you can get around by turning off cursor tracking make sure 
Duxberry is aware.


On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

 I'm running in demo mode. I did not land in that table (which I do in the 
Windows version). So just a guess. Is Quick Nav on? QN can do strange things. 
If you interacted then chose a translation table did you stop interacting?

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/5/2019 9:18 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Hmmm.  That sounds like a job for DBT support people.  If they use some sort of 
proprietary Open dialog instead of the bulb-in MacOS dialog, it might cause 
issues.  Yes, she is really enjoying it.  We were having fun over the weekend 
as we heard that you had some cold and snow.  Her cold and snow would be 
T-shirt weather for us right now.  It's been -40 C the last few mornings with a 
feels like between -45 and -51 C.  It's amazing how your body gets used to 
things.  By the end of the day yesterday, it had made it up to a balmy -26 and 
it actually felt nice out.  Anyway, I digress.  Sorry, I doesn't appear that I 
can be much help with your DBT issue.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:07, RATTRAY, JULIE mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
Hi,

Re: Using delete and Application keys on Bootcamp

[Pete De Vasto]

To use the delete key, press the FN key in addition to the regular delete key. 
There’s no equivalent of the application key, as far as I can tell. You can 
press Shift+F10 and that should do the same thing.

Hope that helps,

Pete De Vasto

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 12:21 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I am using now windows 10 on a bootcamp on a macbook pro 2015, the only 2 
> keys that i need a help with  are the delete key and the application key, 
> what can i do to use them?
> thanks
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Not really, some parts of university access can be strictly controlled. 
Although, if the admins gave log-in details they would have specified 
prerequisites. This doesn’t explain why Windows and linux work but OSX doesn’t. 
True for MAC address identifiers too.

It has to be something in the OSX configuration. If my understanding is 
correct. Constants are the Uni network, Janina’s hardware and the difference is 
the OS that Janina is using with that hardware. Perhaps, different DHCP 
configuration or implementation. Janina, is it static or dynamic config? Does 
OSxX have a network log? Look at the logs and see what is reported. Oh those 
days of command line hacking!

Kind regards,

Gena


> On 7 Feb 2019, at 06:32, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> But that would have to be a black lisitng of janinas mac address and to have 
> that happen she’d have had to have been there before
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 10:14 AM
> To: AppleVis List  >
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Weird idea, are there any blacklists applied? On your side or the University?
>  
> Gena
> 
> 
> On 6 Feb 2019, at 20:44, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
>  
> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe that 
> UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
> international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
> primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you had 
> changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? I 
> kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to be 
> configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
> Did you try a web search?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
> able to use wifi.
> 
> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> 
> Let me be clear:
> 
> 1.)   Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> 
> 2.)   I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I 
> get "no signal." But,
> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> 
> 3.)   I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in 
> Mojave.
> 
> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
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Popular iPhone apps caught recording your screen without permission - here are the offenders

[dan d.]

https://bgr.com/2019/02/07/iphone-apps-can-record-your-every-tap-and-swipe-report-says/

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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Thanks for this I am going to try Skim as well
Best wishes
Julie

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School of Education
Durham University
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On 7 Feb 2019, at 14:01, dan d. 
mailto:dandun...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Do cmd+a to select all of the text of the document..

Then cmd+c to copy it into the clipboard as text, including any page numbering 
present.

Then paste the clipboard into textedit where the part wanted can be extracted.

I also suggest trying the free pdf viewer skim to compare with preview, it is 
designed for academic papers.  The above steps would be the
same.  Here is the download page:

https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/


On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?




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Re: COpying from PDf book

[dan d.]

Do cmd+a to select all of the text of the document..

Then cmd+c to copy it into the clipboard as text, including any page numbering 
present.

Then paste the clipboard into textedit where the part wanted can be extracted.

I also suggest trying the free pdf viewer skim to compare with preview, it is 
designed for academic papers.  The above steps would be the
same.  Here is the download page:

https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/


On Thu, 7 Feb 2019, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
> Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can 
> not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
> any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
>
>
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ramy,

Have you tried using the VO command to copy the last spoken phrase to the 
clipboard? The command is VO-Shift-c.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 7 Feb 2019, at 10:20, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Thanks so much for helping .
> And waiting any feedback from others here.
> thanks so much 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:19 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think with Prismo it keeps original pagination but of course you would 
>> need to double check this - I am also a researcher so I appreciate the issue 
>> for you here and I am sure I resolved a similar issue like this in the past 
>> using Prismo but I could be wrong.
>> 
>> I think unless you have a PDF editor there won’t be a perfect solution - 
>> others on this list may know of a good PDF editor which works with VO that 
>> would let you do this - and I would be interested in the possibilities 
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> 
>> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
>> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
>> School of Education 
>> Durham University 
>> Leazes Road 
>> DURHAM 
>> DH1 1TA
>> 
>> Tel: 0191 3348249 
>> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
>> Twitter @joolsled 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:15, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to 
>>> insert it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the 
>>> correct number of page.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE >>> > wrote:
 
 Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo 
 Best wishes
 Julie
 
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 Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
 School of Education 
 Durham University 
 Leazes Road 
 DURHAM 
 DH1 1TA
 
 Tel: 0191 3348249 
 Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
 Twitter @joolsled 
 
 
 
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> Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has 
> some Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using 
> Arrows, can not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between 
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Re: Accessible games for mac

['Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries]

If people like text-based games, there a few sound packs for MUD’s which use 
Tintin++, the MUD client.

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 6:14 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:
> 
> rs_games is sort of dead I think
> as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
> Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
> the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.
> 
> On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
>> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> 
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>> DURHAM
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>> 
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>> 
>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
>> rsgames.org.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shawn,
>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
>> mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for the
>> Mac -
>> Best wishes
>> Julie
>> 
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Gina:

As Simon said, I hadn't been there before, even though I confess to
being bad from time to time! 

Also, I can expand that I had the same problem in the hotel, which was
about a mile off campus.

Janina

Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hello,
> 
> Weird idea, are there any blacklists applied? On your side or the University?
> 
> Gena
> 
> > On 6 Feb 2019, at 20:44, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
> > that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done 
> > any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
> > primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you 
> > had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? 
> > I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to 
> > be configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
> > Did you try a web search?
> > 
> > Best Wishes,
> > 
> > Jonathan Cohn
> > 
> >> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
> >> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
> >> able to use wifi.
> >> 
> >> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
> >> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
> >> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> >> 
> >> Let me be clear:
> >> 
> >> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> >> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> >> 
> >> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I 
> >> get "no signal." But,
> >> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> >> 
> >> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in 
> >> Mojave.
> >> 
> >> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
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> >> 
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> >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:  http://a11y.org
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Jonathan:

Yes, I tried searching online for 
+wifi +"no signal"

But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In the
time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything that
actually seemed pertinent.

Janina

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> UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
> international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
> primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you had 
> changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? I 
> kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to be 
> configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
> Did you try a web search?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
>
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
> > week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
> > able to use wifi.
> > 
> > What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
> > what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
> > certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> > 
> > Let me be clear:
> > 
> > 1.) Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> > States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> > 
> > 2.) I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
> > signal." But,
> > if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> > 
> > 3.) I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> > 
> > All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Simon:

I mean the wifi radio in my early 2014 era Mac Airbook didn't work in
the U.K. when booted to Mojave. It worked perfectly well when booted to
Windows 10 or Linux. And, it's been working perfectly in Mojave since I
came home to the U.S.

That's the weird part and suggests some kind of driver flaw to me.
That's my best guess, anyway, because it's the only thing that's
different?


Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I'm kind of confused,
> Do you mean your USA based WiFi was working for you in the UK on linux but 
> not on Mac OS?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last 
> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was able 
> to use wifi.
> 
> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, what's the 
> fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I certainly can't accept 
> having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> 
> Let me be clear:
> 
> 1.)   Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> 
> 2.)   I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
> signal." But,
> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> 
> 3.)   I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> 
> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I'd have to agree with that. lol
Donna

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 11:50 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> 
> Coffee is a desert,
> 
> As well as breakfast, lunch and all times of the day and night.
> 
> If only it was free 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 4:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password
> 
> OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
> coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
> coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing. 
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I 
>> don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee 
>> ready for me. :)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey Simon,
>>> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was just 
>>> making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is always 
>>> desirable no matter the distilled beverage.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> Ok Gents,
>>> I’m kind of confused!?
>>> Why would you put baileys into coffee?
>>> Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with other 
>>> substances Straight with no addatives You guys are weird.
>>> Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing it 
>>> with anything.
>>> Weird man weird!
>>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> >
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:52 AM 
>>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> *Subject:*Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password Hi, Straight 
>>> coffee might be the issue.  Spice it up a little with a shot of Bailey's 
>>> and things may just work better.  Either that, or you won't care ;).
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:49, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  We may be on the right path but while I have reset the password a 
>>> time or two in the past, I never had so many issues before. Its odd because 
>>> I can sign out of things on the Mac and sign back in. I may just repeat the 
>>> process tomorrow with a new password. I think I have enough coffee. :) From 
>>> E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>   Hi,
>>>   Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that
>>>   would be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.
>>> So, if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you
>>>   attempt to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for
>>>   Apple ID and password, it usually sends a notification to the
>>>   iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV
>>>   is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought
>>>   that it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3
>>>   anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA
>>>   separately.
>>>   It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
>>>   Later...
>>>   Tim Kilburn
>>>   Apple Teacher
>>>   (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>   On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>   >>   
>>> >
>>>   wrote:
>>>  Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to
>>>   reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the
>>>   iTunes and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>>>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>   
>>>   Many believe that we have been visited
>>>   in the past. What if it were true?
>>>   On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>   Hi,
>>>   Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV
>>>   3, I believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of
>>>   your password.
>>>   Later...
>>>   Tim Kilburn
>>>   Apple Teacher
>>>   (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>   On 

Re: Accessible games for mac

[Oriol Gómez]

rs_games is sort of dead I think
as for accessible audiogames, you have games like Beatstar from Oriol
Góme (me) at www.oriolgomez.com
the great toy robbery from l-works.net and a few more.

On 2/7/19, RATTRAY, JULIE  wrote:
> Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
> Best wishes
> Julie
>
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>
>
> On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at
> rsgames.org.
>
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
>
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> On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE
> mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for the
> Mac -
> Best wishes
> Julie
>
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Re: Accessible games for mac

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Fab thanks for the suggestion will check it out
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
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School of Education
Durham University
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DURHAM
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On 6 Feb 2019, at 06:49, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Have you tried RS Games? You can download the client at 
rsgames.org.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:28 PM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good accessible games for the Mac 
-
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
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read table headers?

[Oriol Gómez]

Hi all!
Is it possible to control whether voiceover reads row headers when
browsing the web?
It is especially annoying when browsing certain forums or websites.

I haven't seen this setting anywhere.

Thank you all!

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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for helping .
And waiting any feedback from others here.
thanks so much 


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:19 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think with Prismo it keeps original pagination but of course you would need 
> to double check this - I am also a researcher so I appreciate the issue for 
> you here and I am sure I resolved a similar issue like this in the past using 
> Prismo but I could be wrong.
> 
> I think unless you have a PDF editor there won’t be a perfect solution - 
> others on this list may know of a good PDF editor which works with VO that 
> would let you do this - and I would be interested in the possibilities 
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
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> 
>> On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:15, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to 
>> insert it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the 
>> correct number of page.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo 
>>> Best wishes
>>> Julie
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
 Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can 
 not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and 
 pages.
 any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
 
 
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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Hi,

I think with Prismo it keeps original pagination but of course you would need 
to double check this - I am also a researcher so I appreciate the issue for you 
here and I am sure I resolved a similar issue like this in the past using 
Prismo but I could be wrong.

I think unless you have a PDF editor there won’t be a perfect solution - others 
on this list may know of a good PDF editor which works with VO that would let 
you do this - and I would be interested in the possibilities
Best wishes
Julie

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On 7 Feb 2019, at 09:15, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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Twitter @joolsled



On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa 
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Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Re: COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

No, but the issue here is that, i need to know the exact page number to insert 
it in my Research, and if i will convert it to text, i will lose the correct 
number of page.


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:10 AM, RATTRAY, JULIE  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo 
> Best wishes
> Julie
> 
> Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA 
> Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
> School of Education 
> Durham University 
> Leazes Road 
> DURHAM 
> DH1 1TA
> 
> Tel: 0191 3348249 
> Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 
> Twitter @joolsled 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
>> Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can 
>> not move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
>> any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?
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Re: Pages and Preview apps, any Major problems with Mojavy?

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Not had any yet with those APPs and I use them a lot
Best wishes
Julie

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On 6 Feb 2019, at 23:54, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

i will update my Laptop Tomorrow, And need to be sure that i will not face any 
accessibility issues specially with these 2 apps,
so need your advice.
thanks

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Re: COpying from PDf book

[RATTRAY, JULIE]

Have you tried to convert the pages to text using Prismo
Best wishes
Julie

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On 6 Feb 2019, at 22:00, Ramy Moustafa 
mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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Using delete and Application keys on Bootcamp

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:
I am using now windows 10 on a bootcamp on a macbook pro 2015, the only 2 keys 
that i need a help with  are the delete key and the application key, what can i 
do to use them?
thanks

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