RE: Apple watch & bluetooth headset

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andrew,

I do not have Apple AirPods, Series 2 so cannot comment as to how they work 
with regard to switching between iPhone and Apple Watch.  

However, I can tell you that with the series 1 version, switching seamlessly 
between your phone and your watch, where VoiceOver is concerned anyway, is not 
as, quote, seamless, quote, as Apple would have you believe.

So, I use the Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth earphone for this purpose.  
The edge can connect to, two, devices, simultaneously.  VoiceOver works 
beautifully with this device, especially when switching between iPhone and 
Apple Watch.

When you activate the watch, Watch-VoiceOver speaks and, conversely, when you 
activate the phone, phone-VoiceOver speaks.  It is perfect.

So, when I'm out and about, and want to access my phone and/or watch, 
privately, I simply pop the Edge into my ear, switch it on, and in less than 2 
seconss, both the devices automatically connect, and I'm off and running.

Mark

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From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:35 AM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Apple watch & bluetooth headset

Hi,

Once my first ever Apple watch has arrived, in order to be able to use it 
quietly & unobtrusively, I shall want to get a reliable bluetooth headset which 
I could hopefully use with both iPhone & Apple watch.  Can you recommend such a 
headset?  I’d want to use it relaxing in a chair but also while working out but 
since I don’t sleep very well, I’d like to be able to use it in bed too.  Do 
people mostly use headsets that cover both ears or just one?  I have no sight 
so I’d want to be able to hear my surroundings to somewhat.

Many thanks

Andrew

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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[M. Taylor]

Hello Lorie,

You know, you make an interesting point.

While of course I can multitask while listening to human narrators, after 
reading your post, I realize that I find it easier, this is to say, less 
taxing, to listen to a TTS engine when multitasking.  

In fact, now that I think about it, it is as if I am not drawn as deeply into 
the story when a TTS engine is at the helm; still I enjoy the story.  

Interesting.  Very Interesting, indeed.  

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:55 PM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

I've read tons of Kindle books on my iPhone. I'd prefer braille probably but 
Samantha isn't bad and I can do things while I'm listening.

Lorie

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 
> Blue Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
> VoiceOver Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not 
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the 
> audio book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the 
> book was just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was 
> available.  Yes, it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the 
> Kindle version and used my beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
> audible version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I 
> would like the book any better or less with a human narrator at the 
> proverbial helm.
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle 
> version wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am 
> absolutely certain that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human 
> narrator edition had I not experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human 
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
> definitely a viable option for reading novels, especially when it 
> comes to saving a few dollars.
> 
> Mark
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RE: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[M. Taylor]

Hello Karen,

Well, now that I think about it, I use Eloquence most of the time, on all of
my Windows computers; with Alex coming in as a close second as I use him on
my Mac computers and on my Apple TV.  My hearing is such that I can hear
lower frequencies more easily than middle or upper frequencies and yet, for
whatever reason, Samantha continues to be my favorite TTS engine for reading
long strings of text.

Go figure, eh?  

As the saying kind of goes, beauty is in the ear of the listener.  (Smile).

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 10:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel?
Maybe

Hi Mark,
I have a question about your experience.  You describe  the tts voice as
your beloved Samantha, suggesting that you  spend allot of time with her as
a major part of your listening?
If true, might your personal  history with the voice, the inflections the
pronunciations impact your appreciation?
Will let you answer if you are so enclined before making a comment.
Kare



On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 
> Blue Braille display.
>
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the 
> VoiceOver Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not 
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the 
> audio book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the 
> book was just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was 
> available.  Yes, it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the 
> Kindle version and used my beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the 
> audible version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I 
> would like the book any better or less with a human narrator at the
proverbial helm.
>
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle 
> version wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am 
> absolutely certain that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human 
> narrator edition had I not experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human 
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is 
> definitely a viable option for reading novels, especially when it 
> comes to saving a few dollars.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Maria Reyes]

I would say I'm used to reading with TTS (Eloquence on the computer, and Voice 
Dream Reader on the phone.) Since Samantha is the only option the Apple Watch, 
I've gotten used to her voice, but on a lot of novels I read in VDR I use the 
Alex voice.

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I've read tons of Kindle books on my iPhone. I'd prefer braille probably but 
> Samantha isn't bad and I can do things while I'm listening.
> 
> Lorie
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>> 
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>> 
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>> 
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
>> 
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>> 
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
>> dollars.
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
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earpods gen 2

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi list,

Just wondering if anyone else that has the earpods gen 2  has any thoughts on 
how to know if your pods are charging wirelessly and even more so
How to know if they are fully charged?

The little LED on the  front really doesn't do it for me.

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Re: Contacts Duplicates

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I went ahead with the merge because I could not figure out how to 
find the culprits. Everything looks good now and the iDevices are too 
after I turned contacts off then on again to refresh them.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/16/2019 5:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Either interact with the table with the card info to view, or press 
cmd-l to edit it.  Sometimes, I find editing easier as you can just 
press tab to navigate through the fields.  Then just press Done when 
finished.  The card info table is a few VO-lefts front he bottom of the 
screen.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2019, at 08:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   On the Mac, I checked contacts for duplicates. There are 3. I want to 
look at those before I merge then, How?


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Re: Contacts Duplicates

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Hi,

Either interact with the table with the card info to view, or press cmd-l to 
edit it.  Sometimes, I find editing easier as you can just press tab to 
navigate through the fields.  Then just press Done when finished.  The card 
info table is a few VO-lefts front he bottom of the screen.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2019, at 08:58, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  On the Mac, I checked contacts for duplicates. There are 3. I want to look at 
those before I merge then, How?

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Re: Kindle for Mac

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

I have been playing and if I use the track pad I can sort of get it to work but 
it is a bit of a faff and not sure if it is worth it unless anyone has any good 
tips or tricks up their sleeves?

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 23:10, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Kindle for Mac is accessible unless it's been improved lately 
> and I don't know about it.
> 
> Lorie
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> After looking at the thread about Kindle reading voices decided to give the 
>> kindle app for Mac another try - but am having some trouble getting it to 
>> work - can anyone give me some quick getting started tips - I have installed 
>> it and signed in but I have 39 books in my library and can only see seven 
>> and can’t get any to download - probably something really obvious I am not 
>> doing but … help 
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Re: Kindle for Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't think Kindle for Mac is accessible unless it's been improved lately and 
I don't know about it.

Lorie

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> 
> After looking at the thread about Kindle reading voices decided to give the 
> kindle app for Mac another try - but am having some trouble getting it to 
> work - can anyone give me some quick getting started tips - I have installed 
> it and signed in but I have 39 books in my library and can only see seven and 
> can’t get any to download - probably something really obvious I am not doing 
> but … help 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Lorie McCloud]

I've read tons of Kindle books on my iPhone. I'd prefer braille probably but 
Samantha isn't bad and I can do things while I'm listening.

Lorie

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
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> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark 
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Kindle for Mac

[Julie Rattray]

Hi all,

After looking at the thread about Kindle reading voices decided to give the 
kindle app for Mac another try - but am having some trouble getting it to work 
- can anyone give me some quick getting started tips - I have installed it and 
signed in but I have 39 books in my library and can only see seven and can’t 
get any to download - probably something really obvious I am not doing but … 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

tts for me , all the way. faster reads, easier on the space needed 

On 4/16/19, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Yes i agree with you.
> I use that when reading on english webpages.
> I hope they put it into the Mac too.
> /A
>
>> 16 apr. 2019 kl. 11:31 skrev Raymond Foret Jr :
>>
>> Well, for me, the inhanced US Tom is best all around.  Now the Male Siri
>> US voice (actually known as Aaron inhanced but which Apple calls Male Siri
>> US) is also good.
>>
>>
>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the
>> blind:
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>>> Braille display.
>>>
>>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the
>>> VoiceOver
>>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>>>
>>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the
>>> audio
>>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book
>>> was
>>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.
>>> Yes,
>>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used
>>> my
>>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>>>
>>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the
>>> audible
>>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like
>>> the
>>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.
>>>
>>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle
>>> version
>>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I
>>> not
>>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>>>
>>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is
>>> definitely
>>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a
>>> few
>>> dollars.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i agree with you.
I use that when reading on english webpages.
I hope they put it into the Mac too.
/A

> 16 apr. 2019 kl. 11:31 skrev Raymond Foret Jr :
> 
> Well, for me, the inhanced US Tom is best all around.  Now the Male Siri US 
> voice (actually known as Aaron inhanced but which Apple calls Male Siri US) 
> is also good.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
>> Braille display.
>> 
>> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
>> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
>> 
>> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
>> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
>> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
>> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
>> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
>> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
>> 
>> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
>> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
>> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
>> 
>> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
>> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
>> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
>> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
>> 
>> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
>> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
>> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
>> dollars.
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If its a facts book like Science or history it really is a great alternative.
BUt not when it comes to NOvels for me.
Here in Sweden we have some Daisy books which are read by Ivona Astrid in 
swedish.
Its great for those who need it.
/A

> 16 apr. 2019 kl. 06:26 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark 
> 
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Chrome for Mac OS: How do I select text

[Daniel Gartmann]

Hi,

Does anyone know how to select text from a web page in GoogleChrome for MAC?

I am on the latest Canary build and still can’t get it to work. I tried with 
the Up and Down Arrow keys as well as VO+Enter to start VoiceOver text 
selection.

Thanks a lot for any input as to what I am doing wrong.

Daniel

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Contacts Duplicates

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   On the Mac, I checked contacts for duplicates. There are 3. I want 
to look at those before I merge then, How?


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

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Re: Safari

[Jonathan Cohn]

hello,

If you go into the Safari Preferences, and open the tab for privacy.

You should see a button labeled: "Manage Website Data” when you click on this 
you will get a searchable table with all cookies and local caches from 
different web sites. 

If you search for amazon.com you will probably find at least a dozen items. I 
believe you can safely ignore all the items that have s3 in their name.

HTH.

Jonathan

> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Thank you. Where do I finfd the cookies? I have looked for the cookies you 
> speak of.
> 
> Angus MacKinnon, Personalism Student
> Charles Péguy said, “The revolution is moral or not at all”
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Re: Apple watch & bluetooth headset

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Sounds good to me, Simon.  Thanks a lot.

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> The best option here then would be the apple earpods,
> 
> Wireless 
> Sync between all devices you have on the one apple id 
> And so far after a week I've had nothing but great response from my series 2 
> earpods.
> They can be costly but well worth it to me.
> 
> Other than that, any Bluetooth headphones would work fine as  Bluetooth 
> devices can be connected to both the phone and the watch at the device level.
> 
> Under settings on the watch you can connect bt devices directly,
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 7:35 PM
> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Apple watch & bluetooth headset
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Once my first ever Apple watch has arrived, in order to be able to use it 
> quietly & unobtrusively, I shall want to get a reliable bluetooth headset 
> which I could hopefully use with both iPhone & Apple watch.  Can you 
> recommend such a headset?  I’d want to use it relaxing in a chair but also 
> while working out but since I don’t sleep very well, I’d like to be able to 
> use it in bed too.  Do people mostly use headsets that cover both ears or 
> just one?  I have no sight so I’d want to be able to hear my surroundings to 
> somewhat.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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RE: Apple watch & bluetooth headset

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andrew,

 The best option here then would be the apple earpods,

 Wireless 
Sync between all devices you have on the one apple id 
And so far after a week I've had nothing but great response from my series 2 
earpods.
They can be costly but well worth it to me.

Other than that, any Bluetooth headphones would work fine as  Bluetooth devices 
can be connected to both the phone and the watch at the device level.

Under settings on the watch you can connect bt devices directly,


-Original Message-
From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 7:35 PM
To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apple watch & bluetooth headset

Hi,

Once my first ever Apple watch has arrived, in order to be able to use it 
quietly & unobtrusively, I shall want to get a reliable bluetooth headset which 
I could hopefully use with both iPhone & Apple watch.  Can you recommend such a 
headset?  I’d want to use it relaxing in a chair but also while working out but 
since I don’t sleep very well, I’d like to be able to use it in bed too.  Do 
people mostly use headsets that cover both ears or just one?  I have no sight 
so I’d want to be able to hear my surroundings to somewhat.

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[d.prater via MacVisionaries]

  
  
  

This being the Mac list, well in name only now, lol, I do wish the 
Books app worked better when doing VO-a for read from current to bottum, like 
the iPhone does, turning pages as it reads and such.Now that that's out of the 
way, though, as I've said on the viphone list, I like good audio books, but 
once the narrator starts whispering or shouting, I'd much rather have the 
level, articulate tones of Alex.



Get Outlook for iOS

  




On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 4:31 AM -0500, "Raymond Foret Jr" 
 wrote:










Well, for me, the inhanced US Tom is best all around.  Now the Male Siri US 
voice (actually known as Aaron inhanced but which Apple calls Male Siri US) is 
also good.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray



On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
Braille display.

However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.

Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.

After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  

You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.

Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
dollars.

Mark 


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Apple watch & bluetooth headset

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Once my first ever Apple watch has arrived, in order to be able to use it 
quietly & unobtrusively, I shall want to get a reliable bluetooth headset which 
I could hopefully use with both iPhone & Apple watch.  Can you recommend such a 
headset?  I’d want to use it relaxing in a chair but also while working out but 
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so I’d want to be able to hear my surroundings to somewhat.

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Simon,

I did have a long think about the cellular side of things and decided to go 
with GPS only as it is cheaper and it would be cheaper to run.  I’m not a great 
talker so this facility would certainly be under-used in my case.  It’s 
arriving tomorrow. Hurrah!.

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:27 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I believe if you get the cellular version then yes you would need to put a 
> sim or have it connected to your mobile phone plan to get the full benefits 
> out of it.
> 
> The cellular version can let you run the watch with out the phone on you all 
> the time but does cost in most cases slightly more dependatnt on your 
> providers charging plans.
> 
> Here in Nz we don't even have the cellular versions just the gps as our 
> providers cant' sort themselves out re charging 
> 
> So really unless you need to have a watch that can make phone calls directly 
> from it then just go gps 
> You can do everything from the watch via the Bluetooth connection with the 
> phone 
> F
> 
> Good luck and hope you find the watch great which ever version you get.
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 8:45 AM
> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Apple watch series 4 question on cellular
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As for Apple watch series 4, I am a little confused. I’m interested in the 44 
> MM watch but I’m not quite clear what they mean by cellular & GPS.  Does it 
> mean it will cost me more to run on top of the monthly payment for my iPhone 
> because it uses cellular?  Or is the use of Apple watch series 4 cellular 
> somehow incorporated into the SIM plan I have for my iPhone?  I’ve been 
> searching for an answer on Apple’s website but it’s not clear on that point 
> at all, which is very annoying because I don’t know which Apple watch series 
> 4 to go for.  I really want the sport type but with a larger display hoping 
> it might be easier to perform gestures on it or use onscreen keyboard.  Any 
> comments, please?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Dear Mark,

Thank you and Simon for the vital info.  Mark, there’s no need to feel bad 
about anything.  After all, the watch hasn’t arrived yet, and I now have the 
correct steps to take and I feel well-prepared.  We all make mistakes one time 
or another. :)

I’m sure I’ll be boring everyone with more questions before long but each time 
I’d better start another thread.  I need to know, for instance, what glances 
are, and what type of bluetooth headphones that would connect both to iPhone 
and Apple watch people use.

Many thanks

Andrew
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 4:54 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> OopS!!!  
> 
> Please disregard my previous post to this thread.
> 
> I gave you the wrong instructions.
> 
> Okay, to turn VoiceOver on and off, you do, in fact, press the digital crown 
> 3 times.  
> 
> However, to power on the watch, you press the long side button for about 5 
> seconds.
> 
> Andrew, I am so sorry for any confusion I may have caused you.  
> 
> I use the digital crown so offen that I focused on it, instead of the correct 
> steps.
> 
> So, when you get your watch, you will feel a long, rectangular button, just 
> below the digital crown.  That is the side button and the one you will use to 
> both power on and power off the watch.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
> 
> Thank you, Mark, it’s very reassuring.  I’ve listened to a few podcasts for 
> earlier versions of Apple watch, and the presenters were talking about 
> holding down “Friends” button - a rectangular button.  But I couldn’t see 
> that button on the series 4 in the shop, and there was nobody on hand to ask. 
>  So your response is very helpful.  Does that mean that the “friends’ button 
> has been dispensed with?
> 
> I’m very excited about my watch coming.  I’ve. waited for a number of years 
> to get one, and now it’s coming.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 2:46 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> Do not be nervous with regard to how to power on your Apple Watch.
>> 
>> The watch is powered on by simply pressing the Digital Crown or what would 
>> be considered the stem on a regular Braille watch.  
>> 
>> Just press and hold the stem in, for about 5 seconds and the watch will 
>> power on.  
>> 
>> I cannot remember if VoiceOver starts up at the power on but if you do not 
>> hear anything after about a minute or so, press the stem/digital crown 3 
>> times to enable VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Please let us know how it goes.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:20 PM
>> To: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
>> Subject: My Apple watch series 4 is arriving tomorrow
>> 
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> In advance of my Apple watch series 4 arriving tomorrow, I’ve listened to a 
>> number of podcasts on how to set it up.  One thing I’m not clear is how to 
>> turn it on & off. Please give me a tip what to look for on the watch to 
>> start it.  I’m feeling terribly nervous.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: A TTS Engine instead of a Human Voice for Reading a Novel? Maybe

[Angie Nutt]

I have used various voices on my iPhone to read Kindle books ever since this 
was possible. Since getting a braille display I use that mostly but there are 
times when I still use speech. Samantha is a particularly good voice for 
reading I think.

I tend to choose a voice I feel will best fit the book I’m reading. For 
instance: I was reading Mary Poppins earlier so decided on Serena. Now I’m 
reading an American book so am using Samantha. I love the choices I have!

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Apr 2019, at 05:26, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I love the iOS Kindle App because it works so well with my Focus 40 Blue
> Braille display.
> 
> However, for whatever reason, until recently, I've never used the VoiceOver
> Samantha TTS engine to read an entire novel in the Kindle app.
> 
> Not long ago, I was searching for a book in Audible, because it is not
> available on BARD or on Over Drive, and found it.  The price of the audio
> book was $19, $17 in Apple books.  Since the audio length of the book was
> just over 5 hours, I decided to see if a Kindle edition was available.  Yes,
> it was and for a mere $1.99.  So, I purchased the Kindle version and used my
> beloved Samantha TTS engine to read the novel.
> 
> After I finished the Kindle version, a friend of mine purchased the audible
> version.  So, I decided to give it a quick listen to see if I would like the
> book any better or less with a human narrator at the proverbial helm.  
> 
> You know what?  I discovered that I actually preferred the Kindle version
> wit the TTS engine, better.  The funny thing is, I am absolutely certain
> that I would have thoroughly enjoyed the human narrator edition had I not
> experienced the TTS engine rendition, first.
> 
> Now I'm certainly not saying that a TTS engine is better than a human
> narrator but I am saying, that for  me, at least, a TTS engine is definitely
> a viable option for reading novels, especially when it comes to saving a few
> dollars.
> 
> Mark 
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