Re: Message Filters

[KliphnShari Miller]

This is a rarity tim but have to disagree with you friendly of course.  But i. 
Use the iCloud website from my mac and fine it quite simple, creating rules to 
sort mail, organize contacts, creating alias’s, and changing account info like 
name and vacation message.  The key is, you have to use vo keys plus command 
and the shift keys to select the tab you want to use.  But once those rules to 
sort email are set, you never have to do it again.


Sent from my iPhone X

On Jun 6, 2019, at 9:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly.  Usable, 
yes, but not great from a screen reader user prospective.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)



Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to add the 
information and elements like. name or email address, then, choosing the action 
which in m case would be, move to folder.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

> On 6/5/2019 11:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters created 
> in iCloud affect the iCloud Mail on all devices.  I'm not sure if Apple has 
> improved on that at this point.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Is there an advantage to setting u message filters on the iCloud web site? 
> I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult than doing it in 
> the mail preferences on the Mac.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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Re: iTunes Match

[KliphnShari Miller]

It does not work.  ITunes match has to be purchased by each apppleID.  Unless 
you share that appleID, then it won’t matter.  I share one, and all music, 
playlists, podcasts show up on all my devices.


Sent from my iPhone X

On Jun 6, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all, 
I unsubscribed from Apple Music today and purchased a 1 year subscription to 
iTunes Match. I forgot to check to see if family sharing works on iTunes 
Match?and if so how does one check to see if it is tuned on?
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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RE: in store training?

[Karen Lewellen]

Perhaps calling accessibility might be a better idea?
What surprises me is the requirement of a device  for which one might 
require  training  in order to find that training laughs.

Kare



On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello Karen,

You can always go to the Apple web site and search for training sessions.

Mark

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Subject: RE: in store training?

Mark,
I am sure those steps will  be profoundly helpful for someone.
However I do not own an IOS device at all.
Is there  another method?
If not I will need to find someone in my area who has  both an IOS device
and  the application.
Thanks for one door at least.
Kare



On Wed, 5 Jun 2019, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello Karen,

To find Apple in-store training sessions near you, do the following from

an

iOS device:

1.
If you have not yet done so, download the Apple Store app.  This app may
already be installed on your device but, if not, you may get it from the

App

Store.

2.
Sign into the app and allow it to access your current location.

3.
Finally, select the, Sessions, tab, located near the bottom of the display
screen.  A list of all upcoming training sessions in the Apple store,
nearest you, will be displayed.

Enjoy,

mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 6:40 PM
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Subject: in store training?

Hi everyone,
I recall from  another thread that one of our  members does this in an

Apple

store.  what I am wondering  is if there is a list somewhere of locations
that still provide the service?  I may be mistaken, but not all of them do
these  days correct?
Thanks,
Karen

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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks for the Handbreak suggestion.

Kristeen
On Jun 6, 2019, at 2:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Well, if they're mp4, then they should actually open.  Not sure why you're 
having issues with specific mp4 files.  In either case, you could use HandBrake 
to convert them to other formats.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)



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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:45, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be able 
to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus will 
open them, but not see all of them. I know about Quicktime, but it does nothing 
for my needs.

Kristeen
On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
will natively open mp4 files.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)



Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2019, at 10:26, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is best 
for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they don’t 
always work properly. Sometimes it does not get the whole file.

Thanks for any help you might have.

Kristeen

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Adjusting Individual Audio Sources on the Mac

[kelly ford]

Hi,

 

Is there any way to adjust the audio level for individual applications on the 
Mac?  I don’t mean audio ducking but rather setting the sound level for each 
program that’s producing audio.

 

I’m looking for something equivalent to opening the volume control on Windows 
where you can make individual adjustments.  I don’t know if something similar 
exists on the Mac?

 

Kelly

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RE: in store training?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Karen,

You can always go to the Apple web site and search for training sessions.

Mark

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Subject: RE: in store training?

Mark,
I am sure those steps will  be profoundly helpful for someone.
However I do not own an IOS device at all.
Is there  another method?
If not I will need to find someone in my area who has  both an IOS device
and  the application.
Thanks for one door at least.
Kare



On Wed, 5 Jun 2019, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Karen,
>
> To find Apple in-store training sessions near you, do the following from
an
> iOS device:
>
> 1.
> If you have not yet done so, download the Apple Store app.  This app may
> already be installed on your device but, if not, you may get it from the
App
> Store.
>
> 2.
> Sign into the app and allow it to access your current location.
>
> 3.
> Finally, select the, Sessions, tab, located near the bottom of the display
> screen.  A list of all upcoming training sessions in the Apple store,
> nearest you, will be displayed.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> mark
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 6:40 PM
> To: list voiceover
> Subject: in store training?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I recall from  another thread that one of our  members does this in an
Apple
> store.  what I am wondering  is if there is a list somewhere of locations
> that still provide the service?  I may be mistaken, but not all of them do
> these  days correct?
> Thanks,
> Karen
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iTunes Match

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all, 
I unsubscribed from Apple Music today and purchased a 1 year subscription to 
iTunes Match. I forgot to check to see if family sharing works on iTunes 
Match?and if so how does one check to see if it is tuned on?
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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Track commander

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
Is it possible to disable the track commander? I know how to turn it on and off 
by holding down the Voice over keys and doing the rotor gesture clockwise or 
counter clockwise but I keep accidentally turning it on. Is there a way of 
locking it so I don’t keep turning it on all the time?
Thanks,
Petrus 
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Re: mac book pro 2017

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’m guessing that it is the fact that I’ve always made lots of typos so I’ve 
not noticed over the years as my typing has improved and I’m probably making 
less typos now days 

> On 7/06/2019, at 9:04 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree with the opposing viewpoint.  I've had my Mac for almost two years 
> now, and I've never made so many typos as I do with the butterfly keyboard.  
> I kept thinking I would get used to it, but I haven't.  I still hate this 
> stupid keyboard.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I mast be the odd one out, maybe Simon has something when he keeps 
>> referring to me living in Auckland. But I think the butterfly keyboard is 
>> the best I’ve ever had. I can’t comment on the start up chime as I’ve only 
>> had a Mac for about 6 months or so. But it would still be nice to have one.
>> 
>>> On 7/06/2019, at 8:29 AM, lenron brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart.
>>> 
>>> On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
 Hi Simon,
 
 Janina may be right :).  No, it doesn't have a boot chime.  I have a 
 similar
 model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM.  It's the one with the
 Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports.  I haven't had any problems with my model
 although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and 
 some
 are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none.  Battery life is
 good, but not excellent.  It's nice and light and handles processing big
 jobs well.  If the price is right, I'd go for it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 
 
 
 Jamf Certified Associate
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
 because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 
 
 Janina
 
 PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
 disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
 Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
 today, imo.
 
 I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
 laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
 finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
 transitionally.
 
 You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
 leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
 browser in recent months. Go figure.
 
 Best,
 
 Janina
 
 Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi List,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with
> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
> 
> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished
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> returned to apple?
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> Cheers for any information.
> 
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Re: mac book pro 2017

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I agree with the opposing viewpoint.  I've had my Mac for almost two years now, 
and I've never made so many typos as I do with the butterfly keyboard.  I kept 
thinking I would get used to it, but I haven't.  I still hate this stupid 
keyboard.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I mast be the odd one out, maybe Simon has something when he keeps 
> referring to me living in Auckland. But I think the butterfly keyboard is the 
> best I’ve ever had. I can’t comment on the start up chime as I’ve only had a 
> Mac for about 6 months or so. But it would still be nice to have one.
> 
>> On 7/06/2019, at 8:29 AM, lenron brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart.
>> 
>> On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> 
>>> Janina may be right :).  No, it doesn't have a boot chime.  I have a similar
>>> model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM.  It's the one with the
>>> Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports.  I haven't had any problems with my model
>>> although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some
>>> are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none.  Battery life is
>>> good, but not excellent.  It's nice and light and handles processing big
>>> jobs well.  If the price is right, I'd go for it.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
>>> because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
>>> disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
>>> Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
>>> today, imo.
>>> 
>>> I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
>>> laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
>>> finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
>>> transitionally.
>>> 
>>> You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
>>> leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
>>> browser in recent months. Go figure.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Simon Fogarty writes:
 Hi List,
 
 Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with
 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
 
 I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished
 devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been
 returned to apple?
 I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of
 them showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
 
 Cheers for any information.
 
 
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Re: Message Filters

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks Tim. I'm in burn out mode right now but may install Chrome again.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/6/2019 11:19 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Oops, I forgot to answer the first question.  No, I don't think that 
it's any better in Chrome.  You're welcome to give it a try though.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)


Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:18, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

I have Chrome installed with ChromeVox as well.  Chrome works better in 
all the Googly things, and better in some other things, but I just use 
it when Safari is being uncooperative.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)



Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:02, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Is it any better in Chrome? Is Chrome worth installing in general?

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On 6/6/2019 7:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly. 
  Usable, yes, but not great from a screen reader user prospective.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to 
add the information and elements like. name or email address, then, 
choosing the action which in m case would be, move to folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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On 6/5/2019 11:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters 
created in iCloud affect the iCloud Mail on all devices.  I'm not 
sure if Apple has improved on that at this point.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:
  Is there an advantage to setting u message filters on the iCloud 
web site? I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult 
than doing it in the mail preferences on the Mac.

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Re: mac book pro 2017

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Okay, I mast be the odd one out, maybe Simon has something when he keeps 
referring to me living in Auckland. But I think the butterfly keyboard is the 
best I’ve ever had. I can’t comment on the start up chime as I’ve only had a 
Mac for about 6 months or so. But it would still be nice to have one.

> On 7/06/2019, at 8:29 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart.
> 
> On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> Janina may be right :).  No, it doesn't have a boot chime.  I have a similar
>> model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM.  It's the one with the
>> Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports.  I haven't had any problems with my model
>> although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some
>> are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none.  Battery life is
>> good, but not excellent.  It's nice and light and handles processing big
>> jobs well.  If the price is right, I'd go for it.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
>> because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
>> disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
>> Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
>> today, imo.
>> 
>> I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
>> laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
>> finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
>> transitionally.
>> 
>> You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
>> leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
>> browser in recent months. Go figure.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Simon Fogarty writes:
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with
>>> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
>>> 
>>> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished
>>> devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been
>>> returned to apple?
>>> I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of
>>> them showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
>>> 
>>> Cheers for any information.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon f
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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi tim,
When needed I use to import the mp4 in to itunes then go to itune preferences 
change the import option to mp3 and export it that way.
Unless something changed that should still work.
The draw back to going from mp4 down to a mp3 is the quality degrades even 
further! ;(
If you need to do that give that a try.
If its a bunch of files I set up an itunes playlist just to do that and then go 
back and delete the audio files from the drive.
HTH
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Jun 6, 2019, at 2:54 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Well, if they're mp4, then they should actually open.  Not sure why you're 
> having issues with specific mp4 files.  In either case, you could use 
> HandBrake to convert them to other formats.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:45, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be 
> able to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus 
> will open them, but not see all of them. I know about Quicktime, but it does 
> nothing for my needs.
> 
> Kristeen
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
> will natively open mp4 files.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 10:26, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert 
> it so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is 
> best for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they 
> don’t always work properly. Sometimes it does not get the whole file.
> 
> Thanks for any help you might have.
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: mac book pro 2017

[lenron brown]

Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart.

On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Janina may be right :).  No, it doesn't have a boot chime.  I have a similar
> model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM.  It's the one with the
> Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports.  I haven't had any problems with my model
> although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some
> are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none.  Battery life is
> good, but not excellent.  It's nice and light and handles processing big
> jobs well.  If the price is right, I'd go for it.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>
>
>
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
> because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 
>
> Janina
>
> PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
> disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
> Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
> today, imo.
>
> I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
> laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
> finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
> transitionally.
>
> You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
> leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
> browser in recent months. Go figure.
>
> Best,
>
> Janina
>
> Simon Fogarty writes:
>>  Hi List,
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with
>> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
>>
>> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished
>> devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been
>> returned to apple?
>> I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of
>> them showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
>>
>> Cheers for any information.
>>
>>
>> Simon f
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what is handbrake? I'm looking for something (hopefully free or very 
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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

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Well, if they're mp4, then they should actually open.  Not sure why you're 
having issues with specific mp4 files.  In either case, you could use HandBrake 
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These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be able 
to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus will 
open them, but not see all of them. I know about Quicktime, but it does nothing 
for my needs.

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Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

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These are files I must use for podcasts. I have to make sure they will be able 
to be opened in Amadeus Pro and will function fully. Sometimes, Amadeus will 
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for my needs.

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Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
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Hi,

Oops, I forgot to answer the first question.  No, I don't think that it's any 
better in Chrome.  You're welcome to give it a try though.

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Hi,

I have Chrome installed with ChromeVox as well.  Chrome works better in all the 
Googly things, and better in some other things, but I just use it when Safari 
is being uncooperative.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:02, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Is it any better in Chrome? Is Chrome worth installing in general?

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On 6/6/2019 7:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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> Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly.   Usable, 
> yes, but not great from a screen reader user prospective.
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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to add the 
> information and elements like. name or email address, then, choosing the 
> action which in m case would be, move to folder.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> Hi,
>> Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters created 
>> in iCloud affect the iCloud Mail on all devices.  I'm not sure if Apple has 
>> improved on that at this point.
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>> On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult than doing it in 
>> the mail preferences on the Mac.
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Re: Message Filters

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Hi,

I have Chrome installed with ChromeVox as well.  Chrome works better in all the 
Googly things, and better in some other things, but I just use it when Safari 
is being uncooperative.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 12:02, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Is it any better in Chrome? Is Chrome worth installing in general?

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On 6/6/2019 7:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly.   Usable, 
> yes, but not great from a screen reader user prospective.
> Later...
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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to add the 
> information and elements like. name or email address, then, choosing the 
> action which in m case would be, move to folder.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 6/5/2019 11:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters created 
>> in iCloud affect the iCloud Mail on all devices.  I'm not sure if Apple has 
>> improved on that at this point.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
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>> On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > wrote:
>>   Is there an advantage to setting u message filters on the iCloud web site? 
>> I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult than doing it in 
>> the mail preferences on the Mac.
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Re: Message Filters

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   Is it any better in Chrome? Is Chrome worth installing in general?

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Many believe that we have been visited
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On 6/6/2019 7:39 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly. 
  Usable, yes, but not great from a screen reader user prospective.


Later...

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On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to add 
the information and elements like. name or email address, then, choosing 
the action which in m case would be, move to folder.


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On 6/5/2019 11:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters 
created in iCloud affect the iCloud Mail on all devices.  I'm not sure 
if Apple has improved on that at this point.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 5, 2019, at 11:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Is there an advantage to setting u message filters on the iCloud web 
site? I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult than 
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Re: iPad Models

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Half breed, probably not too far off an analogy. Just got the mini 4 
last year but it may be worth looking ar a newer model which will take 
iPadOS.


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Hi ET,

 From what I've seen / read / played with,
  It's simply size in the new ipad mini and iPad 10.5" Air,

  Other than that the keyboard on the air.
  To put it simply the air is a half breed mini and pro.
  I recently got the 11" pro, only because my retailer didn't have the iPad 
mini 5 insstock at the time.
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 Still mulling over the iPadOS news and am wondering what the major 
differences are between the iPad mini and Air models. If anyone has used both, 
please share your thoughts. Thanks.

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Re: How do I convert an mp4 file

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Hi,

Your Mac should open mp4's just fine.  QuickTime, which is stock on your Mac 
will natively open mp4 files.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 10:26, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
so that it will play on my Mac or IOS device. Does anyone know what app is best 
for doing this? I have opened the .mp4 files in Amadeus pro, but they don’t 
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Thanks for any help you might have.

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Re: First Aid error message

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Hi,

When First Aid ran, the file system check had a mismatch in its count.  If this 
was ran from the Recovery HD, then it was likely fixed by the first aid 
process.  If this was done when logged into the Finder, then it will likely 
report the same error again.  Not a big deal, I wouldn't worry about it.

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On Jun 5, 2019, at 09:55, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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warning: apfs_num_other_fsobjects (53) is not valid (54)

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How do I convert an mp4 file

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I need to take a file created from Skype, which is an .mp4 file and convert it 
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Re: Message Filters

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Hi,

Yeah, I don't find the iCloud web interface particularly friendly.  Usable, 
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On Jun 5, 2019, at 13:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  Ok. What I had trouble with was using the various menu buttons to add the 
information and elements like. name or email address, then, choosing the action 
which in m case would be, move to folder.

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> Normally, filters created on your Mac only affect the Mac.  Filters created 
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> improved on that at this point.
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> I did one this morning and thought it much more difficult than doing it in 
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Re: mac book pro 2017

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Hi Simon,

Janina may be right :).  No, it doesn't have a boot chime.  I have a similar 
model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM.  It's the one with the Touch 
Bar and 4 USB C ports.  I haven't had any problems with my model although, like 
you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and some are stuck on USB 
A ports, of which the MBP's have none.  Battery life is good, but not 
excellent.  It's nice and light and handles processing big jobs well.  If the 
price is right, I'd go for it.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 

Janina

PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
today, imo.

I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
transitionally.

You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
browser in recent months. Go figure.

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
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> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with 
> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
> 
> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished 
> devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been 
> returned to apple?
> I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of them 
> showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
> 
> Cheers for any information.
> 
> 
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Managing bookmarks with google chrome?

[Matt Turner]

Hi folks.
I’ve used chrome on windows, and it works grate.
I’ve got a lot of bookmarks, but can’t seem to manage them, on the mac side.
I’m signed in to my google account with chrome
The key is cmd+opsion+b.

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Re: mac pro pricing

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I love that 1.5 Tb of RAM. At last the tacit acknowledgement that 4, 8
and even 16 are miserly and inadequate in today's software world.

Frankly, even the 16 Gb I'm seeing on current Thinkpads is leaving me
unimpressed. This Mac shows me that Apple has the right idea, imo about
RAM.

Janina

'Jason White' via MacVisionaries writes:
> The articles I’ve read are lacking in specifics beyond the base price. I 
> expect details will be forthcoming as the hardware becomes available. If you 
> have the kinds of processor and memory-intensive applications that require 
> it, and the budget, then it’s going to be an excellent machine, based on what 
> I’ve read.
> 
>  
> 
> For the sake of perspective, you’ll be able to buy one for less than what a 
> new 80-cell braille display currently costs. I’ve used an 80-cell braille 
> display, and I like it very much, but I haven’t reached the point of 
> seriously making the financial commitment.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Simon 
> Fogarty 
> Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
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> Hi List,
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>  
> 
> Has anyone actually seen a pricing structure for the new Mac Pro yet other 
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>  
> 
> I know what the price will be in the USA but I’m wanting to price the fully 
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Re: mac pro pricing

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

The articles I’ve read are lacking in specifics beyond the base price. I expect 
details will be forthcoming as the hardware becomes available. If you have the 
kinds of processor and memory-intensive applications that require it, and the 
budget, then it’s going to be an excellent machine, based on what I’ve read.

 

For the sake of perspective, you’ll be able to buy one for less than what a new 
80-cell braille display currently costs. I’ve used an 80-cell braille display, 
and I like it very much, but I haven’t reached the point of seriously making 
the financial commitment.

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Simon 
Fogarty 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 03:38
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: mac pro pricing

 

Hi List,

 

Has anyone actually seen a pricing structure for the new Mac Pro yet other than 
it’s base model price?

 

I know what the price will be in the USA but I’m wanting to price the fully 
spec’d version to see what the price in NZ will be.

 

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Re: mac book pro 2017

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines
because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! 

Janina

PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm
disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014
Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough
today, imo.

I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for
laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am
finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking
transitionally.

You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to
leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui
browser in recent months. Go figure.

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
>   Hi List,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with 
> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor?
> 
> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished 
> devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been 
> returned to apple?
> I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of them 
> showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.
> 
> Cheers for any information.
> 
> 
> Simon f
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Re: Email view

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Tim. It's very helpful to have the clear steps laid out like
this--at least until the day the task becomes muscle memory! 

Janina

'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Two ways.  First make sure that you have the mailbox selected, no message 
> should be open,  then go to the Messages menu, down to "sort By", then right 
> and down to Oldest at the top.  Second method uses the menu right in the 
> Messages table.  So, interact with the Messages table, press VO-shift-left 
> (add FN on a laptop), then VO-left once more.  You should hear something 
> about the sort order and about enabling a filter.  Interact with that area, 
> VO-space on the menu item and select "Oldest on Top".  Note that in both 
> cases, I'm assuming that sort by date is already ticked.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Jun 5, 2019, at 06:33, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Thanks for your question, Petra. I've somehow stumbled into the opposite
> situation and dearly want to have my newest mail back on top! 
> 
> Looking forward to the good advice I know is forthcoming from someone.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> Petrus Tuerlings writes:
> > Hi all,
> > I was just wondering how I can change the way my emails are listed on my 
> > Mac? At the moment I have the newest email at the top of the list and the 
> > older emails at the bottom. I was thinking I’d try it the other way round 
> > but couldn’t find where to change it. I did go in the mail Preferences and 
> > found the view menu, and there was a check box that said something like 
> > show old messages at the top tick box and it was not ticked. I am using 
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RE: Reading app-specific passwords on the Apple-id page

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Daniel,

 I must be doing something wrong then as I've never struck this before.

Although I've only once ever setup an iCloud email account.


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It is in the security section when logged into your Apple-ID.

You need to generate an app-specific password if you want to connect a 
third-party app such as Outlook to your iCloud account.

Nothing is sent. You need to read the password on the web page in the security 
section on your Apple-id page.
 You then need to copy that password over to Outlook and insert it into the 
account setup page there.

Hope this makes it more clear.

Daniel

> Den 6. jun. 2019 kl. 08.30 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Sorry I don't understand what you mean?
> 
> Is this password for an email account in Outlook or is it being sent to you 
> by some service in an email format?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can’t figure out how how to read and copy an app specific password that I 
> created to put into Outlook for Windows.
> 
> I click on the Show History link, or that is the Danish text translated into 
> English since I am in Denmark.
> I get the time and the label for when I created the password, but wwhen I 
> click on it, I can’t find the password to copy.
> 
> I am using JAWS with GoogleChrome.
> 
> Anybody had success doing that?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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mac book pro 2017

[Simon Fogarty]

  Hi List,

Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with 2.3GHz 
I5 prodessor?

I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished 
devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been returned 
to apple?
I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of them 
showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list.

Cheers for any information.


Simon f

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RE: in store training?

[Karen Lewellen]

Mark,
I am sure those steps will  be profoundly helpful for someone.
However I do not own an IOS device at all.
Is there  another method?
If not I will need to find someone in my area who has  both an IOS device 
and  the application.

Thanks for one door at least.
Kare



On Wed, 5 Jun 2019, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello Karen,

To find Apple in-store training sessions near you, do the following from an
iOS device:

1.
If you have not yet done so, download the Apple Store app.  This app may
already be installed on your device but, if not, you may get it from the App
Store.

2.
Sign into the app and allow it to access your current location.

3.
Finally, select the, Sessions, tab, located near the bottom of the display
screen.  A list of all upcoming training sessions in the Apple store,
nearest you, will be displayed.

Enjoy,

mark

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Subject: in store training?

Hi everyone,
I recall from  another thread that one of our  members does this in an Apple
store.  what I am wondering  is if there is a list somewhere of locations
that still provide the service?  I may be mistaken, but not all of them do
these  days correct?
Thanks,
Karen

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Re: Reading app-specific passwords on the Apple-id page

[Daniel Gartmann]

It is in the security section when logged into your Apple-ID.

You need to generate an app-specific password if you want to connect a 
third-party app such as Outlook to your iCloud account.

Nothing is sent. You need to read the password on the web page in the security 
section on your Apple-id page.
 You then need to copy that password over to Outlook and insert it into the 
account setup page there.

Hope this makes it more clear.

Daniel

> Den 6. jun. 2019 kl. 08.30 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Sorry I don't understand what you mean?
> 
> Is this password for an email account in Outlook or is it being sent to you 
> by some service in an email format?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Daniel Gartmann
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 1:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Reading app-specific passwords on the Apple-id page
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I can’t figure out how how to read and copy an app specific password that I 
> created to put into Outlook for Windows.
> 
> I click on the Show History link, or that is the Danish text translated into 
> English since I am in Denmark.
> I get the time and the label for when I created the password, but wwhen I 
> click on it, I can’t find the password to copy.
> 
> I am using JAWS with GoogleChrome.
> 
> Anybody had success doing that?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Daniel
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Re: Calendar Question

[Julie Rattray]

Did you hit OK on the notification when you were told a family member had 
updated the calendar  

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 17:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to display only dates with appointments, or is there another 
> easy and accessible way to move among appointments with a shortcut key? One 
> of my family members swears they have put appointments on our family 
> calendar, I've heard the notifications spoken that they've made entries on 
> that calendar, but I can't find the appointments on the dates where I know 
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RE: Email view

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey Tim,

Petrus is from Auckland so he’s still not sure where Canada is,


From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 9:01 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Email view

Oh man!  Now the pressure's on me not to make any mistakes.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)

[cid:image001.jpg@01D51C98.1C1C4880]

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On Jun 5, 2019, at 14:30, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I knew there was a reason I didn’t check that box, it actually said; Show 
newest messages at the top, or words to that effect. So as I’m getting the 
newest messages at the top anyway I didn’t want to check it and I’m guessing 
that box had something to do with threading. Now I will follow Tim’s 
instructions as he’s never put me wrong yet.  I’ll let you know how I get on.
Petrus


On 6/06/2019, at 8:11 AM, 
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Hi,

Check the box and you should be good.  You can do this in the view menu in each 
folder.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 11:18 PM
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Subject: Email view

Hi all,
I was just wondering how I can change the way my emails are listed on my Mac? 
At the moment I have the newest email at the top of the list and the older 
emails at the bottom. I was thinking I’d try it the other way round but 
couldn’t find where to change it. I did go in the mail Preferences and found 
the view menu, and there was a check box that said something like show old 
messages at the top tick box and it was not ticked. I am using modern view on 
the native mail app on the Mac.
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RE: Reading app-specific passwords on the Apple-id page

[Simon Fogarty]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean?

 Is this password for an email account in Outlook or is it being sent to you by 
some service in an email format?

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Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 1:44 AM
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Hello,

I can’t figure out how how to read and copy an app specific password that I 
created to put into Outlook for Windows.

I click on the Show History link, or that is the Danish text translated into 
English since I am in Denmark.
 I get the time and the label for when I created the password, but wwhen I 
click on it, I can’t find the password to copy.

I am using JAWS with GoogleChrome.

Anybody had success doing that?

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

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RE: mac pro pricing

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Hell,

The screen stand is going to be to much for a kiwi to buy.

I just want to price the machine so I can cause my boss a heart attack when I 
leave in 2 weeks.



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How many are you gonna buy? LOL

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Hi List,

Has anyone actually seen a pricing structure for the new Mac Pro yet other than 
it’s base model price?

I know what the price will be in the USA but I’m wanting to price the fully 
spec’d version to see what the price in NZ will be.

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RE: new mac books

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janina,

 That' my thoughts also,

 I can get a 2017 13" air for 2504 NZ dollars,
 But it's got the custom build with 8gb ram, 2.2GHz I7 processor and 512GB ram,
Oh and it's got the older keyboard style,
But now I'm thinking I should just go for a newer pro and get use to the new 
butterfly keyboard as I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM
To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: new mac books

Thanks very much for this info, Shawn.


These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can get 
packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might just be the 
ticket.

Janina

'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes:
> I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave which 
> is what I have.
> 
> 
> > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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> > Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm 
> > currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still 
> > there or not.
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> >> I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017 
> >> models still have the boot chime?
> >> 
> >> Janina
> >> 
> >> Simon Fogarty writes:
> >>> Hi Listers,
> >>> 
> >>> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace  my mid 2013 11" 
> >>> MacBookAir,
> >>> 
> >>> Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently 
> >>> available 2017 version of the mac book air, Apart from only being 
> >>> able to have 16GB ram in them it's an ok machine if spec'ed out 
> >>> completely,
> >>> 
> >>> However what I'm really wondering is if it's really possible for apple to 
> >>> put the older non butterfly keyboard in to something in the mac book pro 
> >>> range?
> >>> 
> >>> I've been using a mac book pro 2018 for almost a year and I still can't 
> >>> get use to the keys on the keyboard.
> >>> Preferring my 11" MBA keyboard.
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RE: iPad Models

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

>From what I've seen / read / played with,
 It's simply size in the new ipad mini and iPad 10.5" Air,

 Other than that the keyboard on the air.
 To put it simply the air is a half breed mini and pro.
 I recently got the 11" pro, only because my retailer didn't have the iPad mini 
5 insstock at the time.
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Still mulling over the iPadOS news and am wondering what the major 
differences are between the iPad mini and Air models. If anyone has used both, 
please share your thoughts. Thanks.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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in the past. What if it were true?

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