Re: Audio description on CBS all access using iPhone or Apple TV

2020-02-22 Thread David Chittenden
I am in Australia, so watch Star Trek Picard on Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime 
has audio description on if available. Star Trek Picard does not have audio 
description on Amazon Prime. This is very surprising to me; especially 
considering that Star Trek Discovery does have audio description.


Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA



On 23 February 2020 12:57:56 Mary Otten  wrote:

Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS 
all axis app on either your iPhone or your Apple TV? I am interested in the 
new Star Trek Picard series, and I understand it’s supposedly has audio 
description. A friend of mine, who watches this series with sided friends, 
says that those folks tried to access audible description, but were not 
successful. I don’t know exactly what they did, hence my question. How do 
you get audio description on CBS all axis with an iPhone or an Apple TV?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Dave Carlson
Nope. Didn’t work. Is this sound supposed to happen after the power button is 
pressed to turn it on? Or after the login and password? And I do not get a 
request for my admin password when I add that line to the terminal, and yes my 
logon is an admin account.
I just don’t get it. Why is everyone else having so much fun, and I’m not?


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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   No, it will work in Mojave as well

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On 2/22/2020 9:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
As I haven’t tried it myself yet I can’t confirm this, but I suspect it 
only works if you are on Catalina. Someone else may be able to confirm 
your estimate.


Sent from Petrus's iPhone


On 23/02/2020, at 17:26, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Okay, stuck it in somewhere amongst all that other stuff that showed 
up. Then restarted. Heard nothing, just the greeting “Welcome to Dave’s 
Mac”. What did I do wrong? Didn’t see anything about where to stick the 
command, nor how to save the so-called file. Would this only apply to 
Catalina, perhaps?



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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
As I haven’t tried it myself yet I can’t confirm this, but I suspect it only 
works if you are on Catalina. Someone else may be able to confirm your estimate.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 23/02/2020, at 17:26, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 

Okay, stuck it in somewhere amongst all that other stuff that showed up. Then 
restarted. Heard nothing, just the greeting “Welcome to Dave’s Mac”. What did I 
do wrong? Didn’t see anything about where to stick the command, nor how to save 
the so-called file. Would this only apply to Catalina, perhaps?


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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Dave Carlson
Okay, stuck it in somewhere amongst all that other stuff that showed up. Then 
restarted. Heard nothing, just the greeting “Welcome to Dave’s Mac”. What did I 
do wrong? Didn’t see anything about where to stick the command, nor how to save 
the so-called file. Would this only apply to Catalina, perhaps?


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Audio description on CBS all access using iPhone or Apple TV

2020-02-22 Thread Mary Otten
Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS all 
axis app on either your iPhone or your Apple TV? I am interested in the new 
Star Trek Picard series, and I understand it’s supposedly has audio 
description. A friend of mine, who watches this series with sided friends, says 
that those folks tried to access audible description, but were not successful. 
I don’t know exactly what they did, hence my question. How do you get audio 
description on CBS all axis with an iPhone or an Apple TV?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks ET, it can wait until another day now as I already put my Mac away for 
the day.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 23/02/2020, at 14:20, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 

   That's the one.

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> On 2/22/2020 5:11 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
> Or is that the same password that I use when I restart the Mac?
>>> On 23/02/2020, at 13:57, Simon A Fogarty >> > wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I said fn right arrow?
>> If tnot then apologies as that’s what I meant to say.
>> Basically highlighting the full line.
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >*On Behalf Of*Petrus Tuerlings
>> *Sent:*Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:56 PM
>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:*Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
>> command, 9 to 5 Mac
>> Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right arrow 
>> didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. But then I 
>> arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking over my shoulder.
>> 
>> 
>>On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>> wrote:
>>  I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being
>>too dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.
>> 
>>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>>On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>Hi ET,
>>Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and
>>easier for Petrus as he asked for dummy steps,
>>Not that I think he needs them now.
>>He probably knows more than I do
>>-Original Message-
>>From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>>
>>Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
>>To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>>Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this
>>simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
>>Simon,
>>You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is
>>inside the Applications folder.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>in the past. What if it were true?
>>>On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>>Hi Petrus,
>> 
>>Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring
>>spotlight
>>search up.
>> 
>>Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
>> 
>>Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
>> 
>>It’s only a few words
>> 
>>Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email
>>and do a shift
>>fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then
>>command c to cut etc.
>> 
>>Hope that helps.
>> 
>>*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>>>> *On Behalf Of
>>*Petrus Tuerlings
>>*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
>>*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
>>*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with
>>this simple
>>terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
>> 
>>Hi all,
>> 
>>Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and
>>what is the
>>Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into
>>it? I No
>>how to select an entire document or email  by pressing
>>command a to
>>select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word
>>by word or
>>letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know
>>where to go to paste it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick
>>mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the
>>volume is very
>>low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that
>>volume setting,
>>unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
>>Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 

Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Dave Carlson
Anything special I should know before trying this? I presume I use the terminal 
app and then pull down the new command menu. and simply paste? Don’t want to 
break anything.


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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   That's the one.

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On 2/22/2020 5:11 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Or is that the same password that I use when I restart the Mac?

On 23/02/2020, at 13:57, Simon A Fogarty > wrote:


I thought I said fn right arrow?
If tnot then apologies as that’s what I meant to say.
Basically highlighting the full line.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
>*On Behalf Of*Petrus Tuerlings

*Sent:*Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:56 PM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right 
arrow didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. 
But then I arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking 
over my shoulder.



On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
  I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being
too dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,
Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and
easier for Petrus as he asked for dummy steps,
Not that I think he needs them now.
He probably knows more than I do
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this
simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
Simon,
You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is
inside the Applications folder.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring
spotlight
search up.

Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default

Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,

It’s only a few words

Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email
and do a shift
fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then
command c to cut etc.

Hope that helps.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of
*Petrus Tuerlings
*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with
this simple
terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

Hi all,

Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and
what is the
Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into
it? I No
how to select an entire document or email  by pressing
command a to
select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word
by word or
letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know
where to go to paste it?



On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>
> wrote:

Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the
volume is very
low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that
volume setting,
unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
Jeff



On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>
> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on
the list, but
according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the
command
described in the
article, works.

Read on for more 

Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Or is that the same password that I use when I restart the Mac?

> On 23/02/2020, at 13:57, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I thought I said fn right arrow?
>  
> If tnot then apologies as that’s what I meant to say.
> Basically highlighting the full line.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
> Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
> command, 9 to 5 Mac
>  
> Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right arrow 
> didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. But then I 
> arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking over my shoulder. 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
>   I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
> dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus as 
> he asked for dummy steps,
> Not that I think he needs them now.
> He probably knows more than I do
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  >
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
> command, 9 to 5 Mac
> Simon,
> You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
> Applications folder.
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight
> search up.
> 
> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
> 
> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
> 
> It’s only a few words
> 
> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift
> fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the
> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No
> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to
> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or
> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste 
> it?
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick  
> >> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
> low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
> unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  
> >> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
> according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
> described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
> command
> By Michael Potuck
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
> company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
> for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
> discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
> keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
> point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
> 

Re: Laser Printer Suggestions

2020-02-22 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I   have a HP multipurpose device, and most of the funtions are useable on my 
Mac.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 6:08 PM, N2KPV  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks ,I will check it out .
> 
>> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 12:31:11 AM UTC-5, E.T. wrote:
>>I just looked on Amazon and found this one which is monochrome, 
>> $170. I need to go back and read more reviews as one said the scan 
>> process requires the HP application. I may have to keep looking. The 
>> link is below. 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard... 
>> ancien...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited 
>> in the past. What if it were true? 
>> 
>> On 2/21/2020 5:23 PM, N2KPV wrote: 
>> > I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one 
>> > laser printer that works well with mac . 
>> > 
>> > Thanks in advance . 
>> > 
>> > Ben C.  N2KPV 
>> > 
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Never mind, I’m not sure if I can remember my administrator password as I’ve 
only ever used my Apple ID password as far as I know and I set this machine up 
over a year ago and don’t think I’ve needed to use that password again since. 

> On 23/02/2020, at 13:57, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I thought I said fn right arrow?
>  
> If tnot then apologies as that’s what I meant to say.
> Basically highlighting the full line.
>  
> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
> command, 9 to 5 Mac
>  
> Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right arrow 
> didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. But then I 
> arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking over my shoulder. 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
>   I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
> dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> 
> Hi ET,
> Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus as 
> he asked for dummy steps,
> Not that I think he needs them now.
> He probably knows more than I do
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  >
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
> command, 9 to 5 Mac
> Simon,
> You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
> Applications folder.
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight
> search up.
> 
> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
> 
> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
> 
> It’s only a few words
> 
> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift
> fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the
> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No
> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to
> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or
> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste 
> it?
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick  
> >> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
> low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
> unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  
> >> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
> according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
> described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
> command
> By Michael Potuck
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
> company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
> for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
> discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a 

RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I thought I said fn right arrow?

If tnot then apologies as that’s what I meant to say.
Basically highlighting the full line.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right arrow 
didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. But then I 
arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking over my shoulder.


On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too dependent 
on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,
Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus as 
he asked for dummy steps,
Not that I think he needs them now.
He probably knows more than I do
-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac
Simon,
You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight
search up.

Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default

Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,

It’s only a few words

Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift
fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.

Hope that helps.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple
terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

Hi all,

Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the
Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No
how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to
select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or
letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste 
it?



On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>
> wrote:

Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
Jeff



On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor 
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>
> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly 

Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Oh yeah, I’m not sure how I managed to select the line as option right arrow 
didn’t select anything and shift FN selected the entire email. But then I 
arrowed up and the line was selected as my wife was looking over my shoulder. 

> On 23/02/2020, at 13:52, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
> dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus 
>> as he asked for dummy steps,
>> Not that I think he needs them now.
>> He probably knows more than I do
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
>> command, 9 to 5 Mac
>> Simon,
>> You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
>> Applications folder.
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight
>>> search up.
>>> 
>>> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
>>> 
>>> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
>>> 
>>> It’s only a few words
>>> 
>>> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift
>>> fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>  *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple
>>> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the
>>> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No
>>> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to
>>> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or
>>> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to 
>>> paste it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
>>> low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
>>> unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
>>> according to a
>>> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
>>> described in the
>>> article, works.
>>> 
>>> Read on for more details.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
>>> command
>>> By Michael Potuck
>>> 
>>> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
>>> company's
>>> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
>>> for all Macs
>>> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>>> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
>>> discovered
>>> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>>> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
>>> keep the
>>> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>>> 
>>> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
>>> point with
>>> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
>>> showing his
>>> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
>>> terminal command
>>> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>>> 
>>> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>>> 
>>> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
>>> return (enter
>>> your password if required).
>>> 
>>> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
>>> machines
>>> here at 9to5Mac.
>>> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
>>> StartupMute=%01"
>>> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>>> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
>>> the Mac
>>> startup chime, check out this interview with 

RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Oh, I think it's called being a lazy bugger.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for 
> Petrus as he asked for dummy steps,
> 
> Not that I think he needs them now.
> 
> He probably knows more than I do
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Simon,
>  You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
> Applications folder.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Petrus,
>>
>> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight 
>> search up.
>>
>> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
>>
>> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
>>
>> It’s only a few words
>>
>> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a 
>> shift fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut 
>> etc.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
>> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the 
>> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No 
>> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to 
>> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or 
>> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to 
>> paste it?
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
>>  low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
>>  unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
>>  Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Everyone,
>>
>>  I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
>>  according to a
>>  friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
>>  described in the
>>  article, works.
>>
>>  Read on for more details.
>>
>>  Mark
>>
>>  Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
>>  command
>>  By Michael Potuck
>>
>>  Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
>>  company's
>>  computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
>>  for all Macs
>>  going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>>  development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
>>  discovered
>>  that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>>  Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
>>  keep the
>>  startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>>
>>  Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
>>  point with
>>  macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
>>  showing his
>>  MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
>>  terminal command
>>  that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>>
>>  sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>>
>>  Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
>>  return (enter
>>  your password if required).
>>
>>  We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
>>  machines
>>  here at 9to5Mac.
>>  Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
>>  StartupMute=%01"
>>  will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>>  For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
>>  the Mac
>>  startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
>>
>>  What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac 

RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah I also like knowing where things are but can't be bothered going to the 
location to open / find something when spotlight is so good at doing it for me.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:52 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for 
> Petrus as he asked for dummy steps,
> 
> Not that I think he needs them now.
> 
> He probably knows more than I do
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Simon,
>  You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
> Applications folder.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Petrus,
>>
>> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight 
>> search up.
>>
>> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
>>
>> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
>>
>> It’s only a few words
>>
>> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a 
>> shift fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut 
>> etc.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
>> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the 
>> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No 
>> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to 
>> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or 
>> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to 
>> paste it?
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
>>  low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
>>  unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
>>  Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor >  > wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Everyone,
>>
>>  I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
>>  according to a
>>  friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
>>  described in the
>>  article, works.
>>
>>  Read on for more details.
>>
>>  Mark
>>
>>  Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
>>  command
>>  By Michael Potuck
>>
>>  Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
>>  company's
>>  computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
>>  for all Macs
>>  going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>>  development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
>>  discovered
>>  that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>>  Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
>>  keep the
>>  startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>>
>>  Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
>>  point with
>>  macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
>>  showing his
>>  MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
>>  terminal command
>>  that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>>
>>  sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>>
>>  Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
>>  return (enter
>>  your password if required).
>>
>>  We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
>>  machines
>>  here at 9to5Mac.
>>  Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
>>  StartupMute=%01"
>>  will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>>  For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
>>  the Mac
>>  startup chime, check out 

RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi petrus,

Yeah sorry it speaks crap which is the text in the prompt window.

Just press ctrl to shut vo up and then type.

Dude you have this sussed
I’ve got no problem saying you are very much able to do this with out concern.

Give it a go again,
And if you have any troubles,
Give me a yell on 0274849896

Cheers,


Simon f


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

I’ll just live without a start up sound as I’ve never had one before so I’m not 
going to miss it. I opened the Terminal and it VoiceOver started reading a 
whole lot of unintelligible stuff that had my name in it somewhere and I 
decided to close it again as I thought I’d just have a simple edit box to paste 
the command into.  But like everything in the computer world, nothing is easy.


On 23/02/2020, at 13:44, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Simon,
  You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Petrus,
Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight search up.
Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
It’s only a few words
Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift fn right 
arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
Hope that helps.
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac
Hi all,
Let me rephrase when I say dummy instructions. Where and what is the Terminal 
and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how to select an 
entire document or email  by pressing command a to select all, but I’ve never 
worked out how to select word by word or letter by letter? And once I’ve 
selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it?
   On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>
   > wrote:
   Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
   low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
   unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
   Jeff
   On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor 
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>
   > wrote:
   Hello Everyone,
   I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
   according to a
   friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
   described in the
   article, works.
   Read on for more details.
   Mark
   Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
   command
   By Michael Potuck
   Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
   company's
   computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
   for all Macs
   going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
   development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
   discovered
   that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
   Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
   keep the
   startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
   Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
   point with
   macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
   showing his
   MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
   terminal command
   that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
   sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
   Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
   return (enter
   your password if required).
   We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
   machines
   here at 9to5Mac.
   Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
   StartupMute=%01"
   will turn it back to the default of no chime.
   For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
   the Mac
   startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
   What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
   Share your
   thoughts in the comments below?
   Thanks, Dylan!
   Original Article at:
   https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
 

Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   I find it easier to know where everything is rather than being too 
dependent on Siri and Spotlight. Makes for s better experience.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus as 
he asked for dummy steps,

Not that I think he needs them now.

He probably knows more than I do

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

Simon,
 You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight
search up.

Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default

Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,

It’s only a few words

Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift
fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.

Hope that helps.

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple
terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

Hi all,

Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the
Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No
how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to
select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or
letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste 
it?



 On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

 Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
 low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
 unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
 Jeff



 On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
 according to a
 friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
 described in the
 article, works.

 Read on for more details.

 Mark

 Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
 command
 By Michael Potuck

 Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
 company's
 computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
 for all Macs
 going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
 development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
 discovered
 that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
 Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
 keep the
 startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

 Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
 point with
 macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
 showing his
 MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
 terminal command
 that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

 sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

 Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
 return (enter
 your password if required).

 We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
 machines
 here at 9to5Mac.
 Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
 StartupMute=%01"
 will turn it back to the default of no chime.
 For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
 the Mac
 startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

 What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
 Share your
 thoughts in the comments below?
 Thanks, Dylan!

 Original Article at:
 
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/




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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I’ll just live without a start up sound as I’ve never had one before so I’m not 
going to miss it. I opened the Terminal and it VoiceOver started reading a 
whole lot of unintelligible stuff that had my name in it somewhere and I 
decided to close it again as I thought I’d just have a simple edit box to paste 
the command into.  But like everything in the computer world, nothing is easy.

> On 23/02/2020, at 13:44, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
>   You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
> Applications folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Petrus,
>> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight search up.
>> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
>> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
>> It’s only a few words
>> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift fn 
>> right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
>> Hope that helps.
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  *On 
>> Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
>> command, 9 to 5 Mac
>> Hi all,
>> Let me rephrase when I say dummy instructions. Where and what is the 
>> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how to 
>> select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to select all, but 
>> I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or letter by letter? And 
>> once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it?
>>On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick >>> 
>> wrote:
>>Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
>>low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
>>unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
>>Jeff
>>On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor > 
>>>> wrote:
>>Hello Everyone,
>>I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
>>according to a
>>friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
>>described in the
>>article, works.
>>Read on for more details.
>>Mark
>>Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
>>command
>>By Michael Potuck
>>Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
>>company's
>>computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
>>for all Macs
>>going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>>development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
>>discovered
>>that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>>Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
>>keep the
>>startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>>Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
>>point with
>>macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
>>showing his
>>MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
>>terminal command
>>that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>>sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>>Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
>>return (enter
>>your password if required).
>>We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
>>machines
>>here at 9to5Mac.
>>Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
>>StartupMute=%01"
>>will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>>For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
>>the Mac
>>startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
>>What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
>>Share your
>>thoughts in the comments below?
>>Thanks, Dylan!
>>Original Article at:
>>https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/ 
>> 
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RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey Tim,

I’m still waiting to hear something back from apple about my apple watch 2,

I’ve only been waiting 2 years, so they might stil be looking

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 9:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP Retina. 
 Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging going on deaf 
ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know though.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
I put it into the dock, as I use the terminal frequently.

Interestingly, my Mac is old enough (late 2013 MacBook Pro) to have the chime. 
Running nvram -p indicates  that it doesn't have the variable, so perhaps that 
exists only in the firmware of newer machines.

On 2/22/20, 19:44, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
 wrote:

Simon,
You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight 
> search up.
> 
> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
> 
> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
> 
> It’s only a few words
> 
> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift 
> fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the 
> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how 
> to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to select 
> all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or letter by 
> letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it?
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
> low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
> unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
> according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
> described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
> command
> By Michael Potuck
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
> company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
> for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
> discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
> keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
> point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
> showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
> terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
> return (enter
> your password if required).
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
> machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
> StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
> the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim 
Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
> Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
> 
> Original Article at:
> 
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi ET,

Yeah I know But I thought spotlight might be quicker and easier for Petrus as 
he asked for dummy steps,

Not that I think he needs them now.

He probably knows more than I do 

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

Simon,
You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight 
> search up.
> 
> Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
> 
> Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
> 
> It’s only a few words
> 
> Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift 
> fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  *On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings
> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
> terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the 
> Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No 
> how to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to 
> select all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or 
> letter by letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste 
> it?
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
> low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
> unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
> according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
> described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
> command
> By Michael Potuck
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
> company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
> for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
> discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
> keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
> point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
> showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
> terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
> return (enter
> your password if required).
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
> machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
> StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
> the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
> Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
> 
> Original Article at:
> 
> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
> 
> 
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Simon,
   You can find Terminal in the Utilities folder which is inside the 
Applications folder.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 4:32 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi Petrus,

Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight 
search up.


Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default

Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,

It’s only a few words

Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift 
fn right arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.


Hope that helps.

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*On Behalf Of *Petrus Tuerlings

*Sent:* Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple 
terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac


Hi all,

Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the 
Terminal and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how 
to select an entire document or email  by pressing command a to select 
all, but I’ve never worked out how to select word by word or letter by 
letter? And once I’ve selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it?




On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very
low.  I’ll have to figure out how to control that volume setting,
unless anybody else knows off the top of their head.
Jeff



On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but
according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command
described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal
command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the
company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed
for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been
discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to
keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some
point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video
showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the
terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press
return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our
machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram
StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of
the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back?
Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus,

Re my earlier messge,

So I use spotlight to open terminal,
Then I typed the command manually
Sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
Note that S of start up and M of Mute are upper case, they have to be in this 
command.

Once typed or copied / pasted in to terminal
Hit enter,
Then wait a few seconds and you should get the prompt for a password,
Note this is the administrators password for the machine I would assume your 
accounts password,

Enter this and then give it a few moments and it should say a few more things 
that are eralivant

You can then close the terminal window
I normally type exit and then hit enter,
And then do a command w to close the prompt

And then on my own MBP I did a restart using ctrl and eject / power and barda 
bing barda boom, I got a start up chime.

Hope this helps.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 12:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

I’d like to try it, but I need dummy step by step instructions on how to do it?


On 23/02/2020, at 12:04, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Awesome.  I saw an article on this earlier today on Apple Insider, but haven’t 
had time to try it on my 2019 MacBook Pro 13.
Glad to know that Tim was successful in restoring the chime on one of his Macs.

I’ve gotten use to living without the chime, but would love to get it back.

- Brad -

On Feb 22, 2020, at 14:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP Retina. 
 Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging going on deaf 
ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know though.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus,

Hit  space bar and command key at the same time to bring spotlight search up.

Then type in term and it should bring terminal to the default
Hit enter then I’d suggest just typing the command,
It’s only a few words

Or you should be able to go to that line in marks email and do a shift fn right 
arrow to highlight the entire line and then command c to cut etc.

Hope that helps.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 1:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal 
command, 9 to 5 Mac

Hi all,
Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the Terminal 
and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how to select an 
entire document or email  by pressing command a to select all, but I’ve never 
worked out how to select word by word or letter by letter? And once I’ve 
selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it?


On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>> wrote:

Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very low.  I’ll 
have to figure out how to control that volume setting, unless anybody else 
knows off the top of their head.
Jeff



On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

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https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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RE: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Mark and list,

Well shoot me with a water pistol,

 The command works like a charm.


My 2018 MBP is now playing te macintosh start up chime like my 2013 MBA 

To whom all have been wanting this back,
We got our wish and it's back 

Great work finding that Mark 

Thanks.


Simon f


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Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 9:03 AM
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Subject: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 
9 to 5 Mac

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a 
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the 
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command By 
Michael Potuck 
 
Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's computers 
over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs going forward 
with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun development today, there's 
a short terminal command that's been discovered that will bring back your Mac's 
startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the 
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with macOS 
Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his MacBook Pro 
booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command that you can 
run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter your 
password if required). 

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines here 
at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac startup 
chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your 
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all,
Let me rephrase when I say dummy  instructions. Where and what is the Terminal 
and how does one copy and paste that command into it? I No how to select an 
entire document or email  by pressing command a to select all, but I’ve never 
worked out how to select word by word or letter by letter? And once I’ve 
selected it I don’t know where to go to paste it? 

> On 23/02/2020, at 12:20, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very low.  I’ll 
> have to figure out how to control that volume setting, unless anybody else 
> knows off the top of their head.
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
>> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
>> article, works.
>> 
>> Read on for more details.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
>> By Michael Potuck 
>> 
>> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
>> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
>> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
>> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
>> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>> 
>> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
>> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
>> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
>> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>> 
>> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>> 
>> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
>> your password if required). 
>> 
>> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
>> here at 9to5Mac.
>> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
>> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
>> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
>> 
>> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
>> thoughts in the comments below?
>> Thanks, Dylan!
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
>> 
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Re: Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

2020-02-22 Thread Kelly Ford
Thank you,

Command option and the arrow keys did the trick.

Kelly

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> Try option up or down arrow.
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> This seems like it should be obvious so maybe I’m missing something.  When 
>> using the Mail app on the Mac, how do you jump to the start or end of the 
>> message list?  I was thinking Home and End would do this but not so.
>> 
>> Kelly
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Jeff Berwick
Yes, it works o my 2019 MacBook Pro; however, the volume is very low.  I’ll 
have to figure out how to control that volume setting, unless anybody else 
knows off the top of their head.
Jeff


> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:03 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
> By Michael Potuck 
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
> your password if required). 
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I’d like to try it, but I need dummy step by step instructions on how to do it? 

> On 23/02/2020, at 12:04, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Awesome.  I saw an article on this earlier today on Apple Insider, but 
> haven’t had time to try it on my 2019 MacBook Pro 13.
> Glad to know that Tim was successful in restoring the chime on one of his 
> Macs.
> 
> I’ve gotten use to living without the chime, but would love to get it back.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 14:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP 
> Retina.  Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging going 
> on deaf ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
> By Michael Potuck 
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
> your password if required). 
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/ 
> 
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Re: Laser Printer Suggestions

2020-02-22 Thread N2KPV
Thanks ,I will check it out .

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 12:31:11 AM UTC-5, E.T. wrote:
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>I just looked on Amazon and found this one which is monochrome, 
> $170. I need to go back and read more reviews as one said the scan 
> process requires the HP application. I may have to keep looking. The 
> link is below. 
>
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HB18C2V/?coliid=I2O2YA1DG34MUW=2JOSPNKAVQ9YN=1_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it>
>  
>
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard... 
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> Many believe that we have been visited 
> in the past. What if it were true? 
>
> On 2/21/2020 5:23 PM, N2KPV wrote: 
> > I know this question was asked before .  I am looking for an all  in one 
> > laser printer that works well with mac . 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance . 
> > 
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Re: Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

2020-02-22 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Well I just press option command up or down arrow and it worked. I’m sure I 
used to press a different combo before I upgraded to Catalina. 
But can’t remember what that was. 

> On 23/02/2020, at 11:57, Kelly Ford  wrote:
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Brad Snyder
Awesome.  I saw an article on this earlier today on Apple Insider, but haven’t 
had time to try it on my 2019 MacBook Pro 13.
Glad to know that Tim was successful in restoring the chime on one of his Macs.

I’ve gotten use to living without the chime, but would love to get it back.

- Brad -


On Feb 22, 2020, at 14:26, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP Retina. 
 Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging going on deaf 
ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know though.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck 

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required). 

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/ 




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Re: Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

2020-02-22 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Try option up or down arrow.
Cait


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Moving Around Mac Mail Message Lists

2020-02-22 Thread Kelly Ford
Hi,

This seems like it should be obvious so maybe I’m missing something.  When 
using the Mail app on the Mac, how do you jump to the start or end of the 
message list?  I was thinking Home and End would do this but not so.

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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   One way to find out!

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/22/2020 12:47 PM, Matt wrote:

I have the 2018 mac mini.

I wonder if this will work as well?

On 2/22/2020 3:26 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 
MBP Retina.  Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my 
urging going on deaf ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let 
me know though.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor > wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but 
according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described 
in the

article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all 
Macs

going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal 
command

that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram 
StartupMute=%01"

will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hii mark,

 Thanks for this 

I will try this when back in front of y 29018 MBP,

I just hope it wrks.



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> On 23/02/2020, at 9:03 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
> article, works.
> 
> Read on for more details.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
> By Michael Potuck 
> 
> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
> 
> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
> 
> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
> 
> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
> your password if required). 
> 
> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
> here at 9to5Mac.
> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
> 
> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
> thoughts in the comments below?
> Thanks, Dylan!
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/
> 
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread John Panarese
  It works with my 2019 Mini, so I would think it should.


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> On Feb 22, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Matt  wrote:
> 
> I have the 2018 mac mini.
> 
> I wonder if this will work as well?
> 
> On 2/22/2020 3:26 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP 
>> Retina.  Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging 
>> going on deaf ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know 
>> though.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
>> friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
>> article, works.
>> 
>> Read on for more details.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
>> By Michael Potuck 
>> 
>> Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
>> computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
>> going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
>> development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
>> that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
>> Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
>> startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.
>> 
>> Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
>> macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
>> MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
>> that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:
>> 
>> sudo nvram StartupMute=%00
>> 
>> Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
>> your password if required). 
>> 
>> We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
>> here at 9to5Mac.
>> Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
>> will turn it back to the default of no chime.
>> For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
>> startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.
>> 
>> What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
>> thoughts in the comments below?
>> Thanks, Dylan!
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/ 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread Matt

I have the 2018 mac mini.

I wonder if this will work as well?

On 2/22/2020 3:26 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 
MBP Retina.  Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my 
urging going on deaf ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let 
me know though.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor > wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but 
according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described 
in the

article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all 
Macs

going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal 
command

that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required).

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram 
StartupMute=%01"

will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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Re: Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for this Mark.  I tried it and it did indeed work on my 2017 MBP Retina. 
 Now, I'll have to take back those words I said about my urging going on deaf 
ears at Apple.  Would have been nice is they let me know though.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2020, at 13:03, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck 

Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required). 

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

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https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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New Apple book hits German bestseller list after attempted ban, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread M. Taylor
New Apple book hits #2 on German bestseller list following attempted ban
By Ben Lovejoy 
 
The Streisand Effect has predictably kicked in after Apple attempted to
prevent the distribution of a new Apple book written by former German App
Store manager Tom Sadowski. App Store Confidential is now number two on
Amazon's bestseller list in Germany, and the book is into its second print
run.
Despite Apple's claim that the book reveals company secrets, reviewers
indicate that the material in it is bland and obvious .
Reuters reports on the impact of the publicity given to the book by Apple.
[Publisher] Murmann said a first print run of 4,000 copies was selling well
and, rather than pulling the book, it was rushing out a second print run.
"It's No. 2 on the Amazon best-seller list in Germany - everyone is talking
about it," said Peter Felixberger, an executive at Murmann.
It's also Amazon's #1 bestseller worldwide in the 'Political reference'
category, though that categorisation was likely a tactical decision by the
publisher: a common tactic is to pick an obscure category with limited
competition in order to obtain the coveted orange 'Best Seller' tag.
Still, not bad for a book which, without Apple's publicity, would probably
have been read only by a bunch of German developers and perhaps the lawyers
involved in the various antitrust cases against Apple, hoping for some juicy
revelations.
The Streisand Effect was named after website photos of Barabara Streisand's
home were downloaded by only four people prior to an injunction notice by
the star, and by almost half a million people in the month following the
legal action.

Yet Apple's concerns about confidential material appear groundless.
"The operation of the App Store encompasses a multitude of business
secrets," the iPhone maker said in its letter.

Yet, apart from a brief account of a visit by CEO Tim Cook to Berlin and
tips on how app developers should pitch their wares to Apple, the book
betrays few - if any - details over how the $1.4 trillion U.S. company does
business [.]
Each chapter of Sadowski's book opens with words of wisdom from Apple's late
founder, Steve Jobs, while the text is anything but revelatory. One
highlight, the account of Cook's visit to a Berlin startup in 2017, contains
no details of what was said at the meeting.
A summary of the new Apple book by SmartGo gives the same impression.
As the workings of the App Store are of crucial interest to developers, I
read through it from a developer's perspective and noted what I learned -
interesting, but nothing that I think Apple should be blocking the book for.
An an example, the blog cites Sadowski's insights into what makes for a
successful app likely to be promoted by Apple.
Products, people, and passion: The product needs to be so good that it
enriches the user's life, and the user is willing to pay for it [loc 1034].
The people need to include a UI expert, a programmer, and a sales person
[loc 1045], and need to have passion for their product.
Advertising comes last: the product needs to be convincing, otherwise
marketing is not going to help [loc 1072].
For subscriptions to be successful, they need to enrich people's lives, and
convert users into paying customers [loc 1133].
Sadowski's lawyer, Ralph Oliver Graef, accused Apple of cowardice in not
(yet) taking the case to court.

Apple, meanwhile, has not yet sought a court injunction on sales of the
book. "It looks like Apple has gone a bit far tactically, building up
pressure and issuing threats but then lacking the courage actually to go to
court," Graef said.

Though some might suggest that Graef too wants his 15 minutes of fame.

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Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command, 9 to 5 Mac

2020-02-22 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

I know this was a recent topic of discussion on the list, but according to a
friend of mine who purchased a Mac, last year, the command described in the
article, works.

Read on for more details.

Mark

Bring back your Mac's startup chime with this simple terminal command
By Michael Potuck 
 
Apple's Mac startup chime became an iconic signature of the company's
computers over the years and then in late 2016, it was removed for all Macs
going forward with the exception of the 2017 MacBook Air. In a fun
development today, there's a short terminal command that's been discovered
that will bring back your Mac's startup chime.
Back in 2016, there was a similar terminal command discovered to keep the
startup chime, but Apple killed it not too long after.

Now it seems Apple has brought back the hidden option at some point with
macOS Catalina. Today, Twitter user @chaysegr shared a video showing his
MacBook Pro booting up with the iconic chime. He shared the terminal command
that you can run to bring it back on your Mac:

sudo nvram StartupMute=%00

Type or copy and paste that command in Terminal then press return (enter
your password if required). 

We verified that the command does indeed work on a couple of our machines
here at 9to5Mac.
Shortly after, @tempaccountnull discovered that "sudo nvram StartupMute=%01"
will turn it back to the default of no chime.
For a fun look behind the scenes of the making and history of the Mac
startup chime, check out this interview with the creator Jim Reekes.

What do you think? Are you excited to have the Mac chime back? Share your
thoughts in the comments below?
Thanks, Dylan!

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2020/02/21/bring-back-mac-startup-chime-command/



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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-22 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
If you find the terminal sufficiently accessible with VoiceOver, then obviously 
you don’t need to do anything further. In my experience, the terminal is usable 
in Catalina with VoiceOver. However, I wouldn’t wish to use it for running text 
editors or other interactive applications a lot, as it’s rather awkward. To do 
that, I would much rather run Linux and use the console directly (and, 
fortunately, my other laptop has Linux installed in a dual-boot configuration).

 

 

From:  on behalf of Nebojsa Tasic 

Reply-To: 
Date: Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:01
To: 
Subject: Re: Accessible Terminal

 

 

I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word by 
word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? Maybe I will 
not need to install TDSR.

 

On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links: 

 

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

 

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

 

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

 

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on the Mac 
and working with it: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043



On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

 

devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our list archive?
Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:



Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a shell that I 
think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to me, that unlike most 
terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not just a page of output, but entire 
history. Something like TDSR with Screen, the shell command, may allow this as 
well, but gosh being able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the 
best terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or things 
like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.



On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043





On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic  wrote:


Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible work in Terminal?


Thanks in advance.



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Podcaster and sync

2020-02-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
Doesn’t podcaster sync the library all across devices?
I have to say i do like the interface.
It works for me
/A  

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Re: Double entries for apps in notification centre

2020-02-22 Thread Brad Snyder
I’ve noticed the same thing.  I have assumed that certain apps have multiple 
components which causes them to appear more than once in the Notification list.
I wouldn’t delete anything.  If you are concerned with being bothered with 
unwanted notifications, set the item in question to not give any kind of 
notification and leave it at that.  If you decide later you’ve done something 
you wish you hadn’t, you can go back and turn notifications back on.
Sometimes, when you don’t know what something is, I think it is always best to 
choose the reversible option.

- Brad -


On Feb 22, 2020, at 02:24, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

I’ve been tinkering with notifications for my apps in system 
preferences/notifications, and I note that some of the apps in the table appear 
twice. Why is this and should I attempt to remove them?  If yes, how would I do 
that?

Thanks  in advance

Andrew

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Re: Accessible Terminal

2020-02-22 Thread Nebojsa Tasic


I installed Homebrew in order to prepare environment for TDSR. During 
instalation I noticed that I can read in Terminal line by line and word 
by word. Does that mean that Terminal became accessible in Catalina? 
Maybe I will not need to install TDSR.



On 18.2.2020. 22:55, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Sorry, I’ll add links:

TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

Emacspeak: https://github.com/tvraman/emacspeak

A guide (contributions welcome), on installing Emacs and Emacspeak on 
the Mac and working with it: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043


On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Karen Lewellen > wrote:


devin,
Do you mind adding a link to the tdsr program for the sake of our 
list archive?

Kare



On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Emacs with Emacspeak provides a great text editor, along with a 
shell that I think is somewhat usable, its main advantage being, to 
me, that unlike most terminals, Emas’ Shell allows one to read not 
just a page of output, but entire history. Something like TDSR with 
Screen, the shell command, may allow this as well, but gosh being 
able to search the history is great. TDSR, though, is the best 
terminal screen reader on Mac for more interactive commands, or 
things like SSH, Tintin, and other such connectors to remote services.


On Feb 18, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Nebojsa Tasic > wrote:



Hi Devin!


Is Emacs with Emacspeak the tool that can replace Voice Over?


On 13.2.2020. 16:40, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try TDSR: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr

If you want a more complete workspace, try Emacs with Emacspeak: 
https://gist.github.com/devinprater/a794a448ccc46e72fca63c932105c043




On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Nebojsa Tasic > wrote:



Hi All!


Could you recommend me a program or add-on for more accessible 
work in Terminal?



Thanks in advance.



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Double entries for apps in notification centre

2020-02-22 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

I’ve been tinkering with notifications for my apps in system 
preferences/notifications, and I note that some of the apps in the table appear 
twice. Why is this and should I attempt to remove them?  If yes, how would I do 
that?

Thanks  in advance

Andrew

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