Re: Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

[Marie Lyons]

I am unable to make a FaceTime call unless I ask Siri to do it. When I try to 
use the button nothing happens.  Also,  I had the screen go green when on a 
video call. Does anyone know what that means?

Marie LyonsSent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2020, at 5:42 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s name 
> etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo right to 
> the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this result?
> 
> Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
> interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
> you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face 
> time audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or 
> send message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same thing 
> using voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Kawal.
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Music shortcut and repeating

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I have a Siri shortcut set up on my iPhone so I can play a particular track 
from my music collection every morning. I used to say Hey Siri play such and 
such or invoke Siri with the home b button to play the track. It was easier 
then trying to find it in my music collection in the mornings when I am half 
asleep, and I couldn’t get Siri to play it by asking for it as it is an Hindi 
song and Siri had to much trouble understanding me so a shortcut was the best 
solution. However now when I invoke the shortcut it will play the track and 
then repeat it again. This has only happened in the last week or so. I can’t 
remember changing anything in my settings but I might have done.
I thought about using the song as an alarm but it is 20 minutes long and the 
alarm stops after 10 minutes.  
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Good idea Petrus.  Don’t want to be the cause of marital discourse.

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Thanks, I’ll check with the boss first before I buy it as she is the holder of 
the finances in our family sharing account. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
> available in the App Store now for easier visibility.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
> google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave 
> up.
> 
>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would 
>> be able to use the exact same name for an app.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 
>> 2  but not sure if that was the same one.
>> 
>>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
>>> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. 
>>> But I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  
>>> converting MP3 files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac 
>>> and iPhone. I’ve got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that 
>>> I’d like to convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on 
>>> how to use it would be nice as well if one has the time. 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Thanks, I’ll check with the boss first before I buy it as she is the holder of 
the finances in our family sharing account. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:25, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
> available in the App Store now for easier visibility.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
> google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave 
> up.
> 
>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would 
>> be able to use the exact same name for an app.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 
>> 2  but not sure if that was the same one.
>> 
>>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Petrus,
>>> 
>>> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
>>> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. 
>>> But I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  
>>> converting MP3 files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac 
>>> and iPhone. I’ve got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that 
>>> I’d like to convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on 
>>> how to use it would be nice as well if one has the time. 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Petrus 
>>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>>> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, I’m pretty sure that I did pay $9.99 CAD as well.  They may have made it 
available in the App Store now for easier visibility.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave up.

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would 
> be able to use the exact same name for an app.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2 
>  but not sure if that was the same one.
> 
>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
>> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
>> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
>> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
>> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
>> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
>> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Did you pay for it? As the one in the App Store was $9.99 NZ. I tried doing a 
google search in Safari but I get totally lost trying to use Safari so gave up.

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would 
> be able to use the exact same name for an app.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2 
>  but not sure if that was the same one.
> 
>> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Petrus,
>> 
>> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
>> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
>> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
>> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
>> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
>> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
>> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Petrus 
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
>> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I expect that it’s probably the same one.  Can’t see that someone else would be 
able to use the exact same name for an app.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2  
but not sure if that was the same one.

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
> 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’ll look for it. I did find one in the App Store called audio book builder 2  
but not sure if that was the same one.

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
> 
> Later…
> 
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> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
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Syncing ring tones on Catalina?

[KliphnShari Miller]

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> Ok, I use garage band, but someone else wants me to sync ring tones onto 
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

[Julie Rattray]

Yes that would be fab - I did that with a friend on teams - not that I am an 
expert but had more knowledge than her so we played about and it was fun to do 
that so yes lets try 

We could then maybe see if we could compile some suggestions for the zoom 
people to incorporate that might be helpful.

One thing I will say is that unlike teams I do find both the iPad and desktop 
version easy to work with whereas with Teams the iPad version is fine - almost 
but the desktop version drives me bananas 


> On 22 May 2020, at 00:08, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t 
> found the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can 
> mute the chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a 
> Zoom meeting and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend 
> we’re smarter during the meetings we host or participate in.
> 
> Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work 
> for us.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray  > wrote:
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> I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a 
> meeting 
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Julie, 
>> 
>> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
>>> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to 
>>> choose who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search 
>>> field and that is where you typed?
>>> 
>>> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
>>> 
>>> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in 
>>> a zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify 
>>> if others had?
>>> 
 On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All.
 
 I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a 
 chat to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I 
 thought I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back 
 in to the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it 
 didn’t send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to 
 send chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and 
 unmute myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Typos are never your fault, it’s those silly gremlins that invade our 
computers.  I believe that the app is found on the web.  It was quite a while 
ago that I got it, but a Google search hopefully would still find it for you.

Later…


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On May 21, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Is that in the App Store or Does one need to go to a web-site for it?
Not sure how that typo happened in the subject line as I’m sure it was correct 
before I sent it. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I agree.  I find it most distracting in the iPad app for Zoom.  I haven’t found 
the option on the Mac version yet, but in the iPad version, you can mute the 
chat announcements.  If you wish, and have time, we can set up a Zoom meeting 
and practice on some of the features so that we can pretend we’re smarter 
during the meetings we host or participate in.

Lots of this is pretty easy for the sighted user, but takes a bit more work for 
us.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 5:05 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:

I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a meeting 

> On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Julie, 
> 
> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
>> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose 
>> who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and 
>> that is where you typed?
>> 
>> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
>> 
>> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
>> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
>> others had?
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All.
>>> 
>>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to 
>>> the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t 
>>> send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send 
>>> chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute 
>>> myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

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Hi Tim,
Is that in the App Store or Does one need to go to a web-site for it?
Not sure how that typo happened in the subject line as I’m sure it was correct 
before I sent it. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 11:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Petrus,
> 
> I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
> there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But 
> I Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
> files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve 
> got lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to 
> convert and import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it 
> would be nice as well if one has the time. 
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

[Julie Rattray]

I find it a bit off putting if there is too much chat activity during a meeting 

> On 21 May 2020, at 23:54, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Julie, 
> 
> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
>> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose 
>> who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and 
>> that is where you typed?
>> 
>> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
>> 
>> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
>> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
>> others had?
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All.
>>> 
>>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to 
>>> the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t 
>>> send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send 
>>> chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute 
>>> myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

[Julie Rattray]

Thanks Tim,

This does of course mean that you need to keep checking - it would be great if 
you could get some kind of audible notification if you were the meeting 
organiser that a hand was up - maybe this will come in the future. I am having 
to teach now using either teams or zoom and am looking at different was of 
facilitating teaching. I might have students take it in turn to monitor hand 
raising as a way of drawing them in but it would be good if we could get a ping 
to show a hand was up.

 

> On 22 May 2020, at 00:01, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Julie,
> 
> If you can navigate to the Participants list, when you move through the list, 
> it should announce if a hand is up.  If you are the host, then you can even 
> put their hand back down.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On May 21, 2020, at 4:54 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Julie, 
> 
> I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - 
>> maybe someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose 
>> who it goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and 
>> that is where you typed?
>> 
>> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
>> 
>> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
>> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
>> others had?
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All.
>>> 
>>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to 
>>> the edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t 
>>> send to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send 
>>> chat using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute 
>>> myself in a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Convirtió MP3 files

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Hi Petrus,

I use AudioBook builder.  It is totally accessible.  There are others out 
there, that’s just the one that I chose to use.

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On May 21, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time. 
Thanks in advance,
Petrus 
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Julie,

If you can navigate to the Participants list, when you move through the list, 
it should announce if a hand is up.  If you are the host, then you can even put 
their hand back down.

Later…


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On May 21, 2020, at 4:54 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Julie, 

I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe 
> someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it 
> goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is 
> where you typed?
> 
> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
> 
> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
> others had?
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the 
>> edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send 
>> to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat 
>> using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in 
>> a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Julie, 

I don't use the chat function a ton, but my experience matches yours.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe 
> someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it 
> goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is 
> where you typed?
> 
> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
> 
> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
> others had?
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the 
>> edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send 
>> to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat 
>> using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in 
>> a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Normally, that’s exactly what you need to do.  I had this happen to me today 
part way through a Zoom meeting though, and couldn’t figure out how to fix it.  
I didn’t want to leave the meeting since I was the host, but will see if it 
happens again and fiddle with it to learn a workaround.

Later…


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On May 21, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Julie Rattray  wrote:

Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe 
someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it 
goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is 
where you typed?

I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 

For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
others had?

> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All.
> 
> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought I’d 
> press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the edit 
> field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send to the 
> group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat using voice 
> over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in a meeting 
> which is a marked improvement.  
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

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I am not sure.  There was an edit field and I typed.  Then I VO right arrow and 
the table was empty.  There were no labels on it so I hoped I was in the 
correct field.  I’d love to know how you’d identify how you’d know that a hand 
was raised.  So how would you know if someone had unmuted you?  I’d also like 
to know how you schedule a meeting and find how to let someone in to the Zoom 
room.

I get my EL Braille tomorrow so as to make sure if I have job interviews that I 
can show someone that I can use a computer even if it’s not a Mac.  So to be on 
topic it will be interesting to see how Zoom is different on windows as I have 
only used Zoom on the Mac and it’s far better than Skype.

Kawal.

> On 21 May 2020, at 23:23, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe 
> someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it 
> goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is 
> where you typed?
> 
> I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 
> 
> For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
> zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
> others had?
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 23:09, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
>> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought 
>> I’d press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the 
>> edit field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send 
>> to the group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat 
>> using voice over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in 
>> a meeting which is a marked improvement.  
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

[Julie Rattray]

Hmm this is strange I think normally you just hit return and it sends - maybe 
someone else can help - the only thing is there is an option to choose who it 
goes to and I wonder if you hit this it brings up a search field and that is 
where you typed?

I am not hugely experienced with zoom just learning myself 

For example does anyone know if there is a way to work out when someone in a 
zoom raises their hand - I can raise my own hand but how would I identify if 
others had?

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> I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat 
> to the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought I’d 
> press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the edit 
> field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send to the 
> group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat using voice 
> over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in a meeting 
> which is a marked improvement.  
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> Thanks for your help.
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Chat function using Voice over in Zoom

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi All.

I was part of a zoom meeting earlier on and I found I could not send a chat to 
the group.  When I typed my question in the chat edit field, I thought I’d 
press enter and the message would send.  So when I did go back in to the edit 
field with vo left arrow, the chat was still there and it didn’t send to the 
group.  So if someone could write me the key strokes to send chat using voice 
over, I’d be grateful.  At least I can mute and unmute myself in a meeting 
which is a marked improvement.  

Thanks for your help.

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Re: question about navigating in safari

[Brad Snyder]

Assuming you are using VoiceOver, you can use VO + CMD + L to navigate by links.
VO + CMD + H will navigate by headings.
Add the SHIFT key to either to navigate in reverse direction.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 21, 2020, at 15:58, my mental Space  wrote:

i am using safari, but I a new to the mac and I am trying to download using 
sendspace, when I go into safari, and put in the URL that I want to download 
from, what do I do then? I can see the first few links, but I know the download 
button is down further, how do I get to it? Is there an easy way to navigate to 
it?
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Convirtió MP3 files

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I know this subject has come up on this list before and not so long ago. But I 
Wasn’t really paying attention. I know there is an App for  converting MP3 
files in to the format that the Books App uses on the Mac and iPhone. I’ve got 
lots of MP3 audio books on my external hard drive that I’d like to convert and 
import into my books app. Instructions off list on how to use it would be nice 
as well if one has the time. 
Thanks in advance,
Petrus 
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Face time on the Mac is broken or not?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.

I tried making a face time call on the Mac but when I typed the person’s name 
etc in the edit box, you could here what you wanted but when you vo right to 
the table, there was nothing in the table.  Are others having this result?

Also if you open contacts and you find contact details for the person, you 
interact and find the details, if you vo M normally you get choices of what 
you’d like to do.  There is a face time button but no label to make a face time 
audio call or face time video call.  All you have is a call button or send 
message button.  So if someone could tell me if they get the same thing using 
voice over then I can write to Apple Accessibility.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Tim,
I found it under settings, privacy, and bluetooth as well. We have a covid 
tracing app in New Zealand that was released yesterday but it hasn’t got 
bluetooth capability yet. We have been told that it is coming in future 
updates. 

> On 22/05/2020, at 07:53, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Go to Settings, Privacy, Health.  Sorry, forgot to mention the Health part of 
> the equation.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings 
> about the app.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific 
>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I 
>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this 
>> is really a bust.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>>> details of how it works.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
 Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
 that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
 So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
 installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the 
 message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone 
 know what I need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss 
 by Apple. If they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know 
 what we need to do.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
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Re: Burning CDs and cats

[Petrus Tuerlings]

No need to say sorry, I laughed as well, although I didn’t have to burn the cat 
as she didn’t do any harm in the end.

> On 22/05/2020, at 01:41, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sorry, that was funny and I laughed.
> 
>> On 21 May 2020, at 09:33, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
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>> Did you ask the cat what she did?
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:19 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Burning CDs and cats
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> Excuse the rather odd subject of this email, but all will be explained.
>> I was burning a MP3  audio book collection on to a writable DVD for my work 
>> colleague and walked away for a moment. I had a nice little progress 
>> indicator up on the screen telling me the progress. I’m not sure what this 
>> looks like visually but one of my cats thought it looked pretty cool and let 
>> on to my keyboard while I was away. I heard voice over saying something 
>> while I was at the other end of the house so came back to check as the burn 
>> was only about half way through. The cat jumped off the keyboard as I came 
>> back in to the room but she managed to get rid of the progress indicator, 
>> lucky she didn’t stop the burning process. I had no idea how to bring the 
>> progress indicator back  up on the screen? How does one do this? I know I 
>> could have asked this question without the cat detail, but I thought it was 
>> pretty funny. Especially the little blurb noise she made as she ran away 
>> knowing she did something wrong. I wasn’t sure if I could put the. Lid down 
>> on the MacBook while burning a CD? Or I would have done it as the cat does 
>> enjoy the flashing lights and colours on the screen.
>> Thanks,
>> Petrus  
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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question about navigating in safari

[my mental Space]

i am using safari, but I a new to the mac and I am trying to download using 
sendspace, when I go into safari, and put in the URL that I want to download 
from, what do I do then? I can see the first few links, but I know the download 
button is down further, how do I get to it? Is there an easy way to navigate to 
it?
shirley

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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Go to Settings, Privacy, Health.  Sorry, forgot to mention the Health part of 
the equation.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 21, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings about 
the app.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>> details of how it works.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
>>> So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
>>> installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message 
>>> that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I 
>>> need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If 
>>> they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to 
>>> do.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Jonathan Cohn]

One of the features that Apple and Google proposed was to only allow health 
workers to mark somebody as being exposed to the disease. This way, one can't 
freak out everybody that went to the Fraternity party with you last week.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 21, 2020, at 2:50 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you 
> would have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will notify 
> you if you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet.
> 
> sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
>> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of 
>> what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for 
>> that potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, 
>> or because users aren't given information about what apps they need to 
>> install.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
>>> developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
>>> your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
>>> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s 
>>> developed by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  
>>> I’m hoping that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig 
>>> puts out a better explanation of the process to the masses.
>>> 
>>> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology 
>>> have yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from 
>>> a Canadian prospective.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
>>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific 
>>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I 
>>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this 
>>> is really a bust.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
 inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
 certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system 
 too. It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
 details of how it works.
 
 Later…
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells 
> me that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app 
> installed. So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 
> app. I installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting 
> the message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does 
> anyone know what I need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a 
> big miss by Apple. If they expect people to use this, they needed to let 
> us know what we need to do.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Jonathan Cohn]

You got further than I did, I can't find anything in my Privacy settings about 
the app.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On May 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>> details of how it works.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
>>> So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
>>> installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message 
>>> that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I 
>>> need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If 
>>> they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to 
>>> do.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah, I agree. There should have been better information up front, and the 
whole effort should have been coordinated by Apple and Google. That way 
individuals in a given state could opt in, whether or not their state does.

Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This is just an API that Apple and Google have built. In order to use it, you 
> need an app. To the best of my knowledge, only three states have said they 
> are participating in this program at this time, many have not said, and some 
> have said no. It will be up to the health authority of each state to build 
> their own app. Google and Apple should have built the app in my view. This is 
> going to be slow, incomplete, and probably not very well done, e.g. look at 
> what’s happening in the united kingdom where their app has been delayed. The 
> three states that have said yes our Alabama, North Dakota, and I believe 
> North Carolina. States that I’ve said no include Maryland, Pennsylvania, 
> California, Texas, and others.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:51 AM, 'Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you 
>> would have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will 
>> notify you if you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet.
>> 
>> sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.
>>> 
>>> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
>>> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part 
>>> of what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for 
>>> that potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't 
>>> exist, or because users aren't given information about what apps they need 
>>> to install.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
 developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends 
 on your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well 
 explained.  Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  
 It’s developed by both Apple and Google for implementation on both 
 platforms.  I’m hoping that someone like Mac Rumours or some other 
 Internet big-wig puts out a better explanation of the process to the 
 masses.
 
 In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology 
 have yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from 
 a Canadian prospective.
 
 https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 
 
 
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about 
 how exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what 
 specific apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App 
 choice: I see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an 
 option. this is really a bust.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system 
> too. It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with 
> the details of how it works.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells 
>> me that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app 
>> installed. So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 
>> app. I installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting 
>> the message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does 
>> anyone know what I need to do to utilize this feature? 

Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

[Mary Otten]

This is just an API that Apple and Google have built. In order to use it, you 
need an app. To the best of my knowledge, only three states have said they are 
participating in this program at this time, many have not said, and some have 
said no. It will be up to the health authority of each state to build their own 
app. Google and Apple should have built the app in my view. This is going to be 
slow, incomplete, and probably not very well done, e.g. look at what’s 
happening in the united kingdom where their app has been delayed. The three 
states that have said yes our Alabama, North Dakota, and I believe North 
Carolina. States that I’ve said no include Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, 
Texas, and others.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2020, at 11:51 AM, 'Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you 
> would have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will notify 
> you if you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet.
> 
> sent from the iPhone 11 Pro
> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
>> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of 
>> what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for 
>> that potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, 
>> or because users aren't given information about what apps they need to 
>> install.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
>>> developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
>>> your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
>>> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s 
>>> developed by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  
>>> I’m hoping that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig 
>>> puts out a better explanation of the process to the masses.
>>> 
>>> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology 
>>> have yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from 
>>> a Canadian prospective.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
>>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific 
>>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I 
>>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this 
>>> is really a bust.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
 inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
 certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system 
 too. It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
 details of how it works.
 
 Later…
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells 
> me that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app 
> installed. So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 
> app. I installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting 
> the message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does 
> anyone know what I need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a 
> big miss by Apple. If they expect people to use this, they needed to let 
> us know what we need to do.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Maria Reyes' via MacVisionaries]

my understanding is that it works through bluetooth. so I'm guessing you would 
have to log if you have COVID-19 into an app and your phone will notify you if 
you have been exposed. there aren't any apps yet.

sent from the iPhone 11 Pro

> On May 21, 2020, at 11:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.
> 
> I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
> this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of 
> what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for that 
> potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, or 
> because users aren't given information about what apps they need to install.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
>> developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
>> your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
>> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s developed 
>> by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  I’m hoping 
>> that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig puts out a 
>> better explanation of the process to the masses.
>> 
>> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology 
>> have yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from a 
>> Canadian prospective.
>> 
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166
>> 
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
>> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific 
>> apps you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I 
>> see no apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this 
>> is really a bust.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>>> details of how it works.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
 Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
 that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
 So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
 installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the 
 message that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone 
 know what I need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss 
 by Apple. If they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know 
 what we need to do.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Nice article, Tim. Thanks for sharing.

I guess I'm with you. I hope more information is forthcoming. the fact that 
this is a shared effort between Apple and Google is, to my thinking, part of 
what makes it cool, and gives it such potential. It would be a shame for that 
potential to be wasted, either because the supporting apps don't exist, or 
because users aren't given information about what apps they need to install.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
> developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
> your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
> Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s developed 
> by both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  I’m hoping 
> that someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig puts out a 
> better explanation of the process to the masses.
> 
> In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology have 
> yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from a 
> Canadian prospective.
> 
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 
> 
> 
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
> exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
> you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
> apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really 
> a bust.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
>> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
>> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
>> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the 
>> details of how it works.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. 
>>> So, I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I 
>>> installed it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message 
>>> that COVID tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I 
>>> need to do to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If 
>>> they expect people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to 
>>> do.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

My understanding is that various health or government agencies who have 
developed apps for tracking would request this data.  It kind of depends on 
your local/regional government.  I agree in that it is not well explained.  
Take note though, that this is not only an Apple initiative.  It’s developed by 
both Apple and Google for implementation on both platforms.  I’m hoping that 
someone like Mac Rumours or some other Internet big-wig puts out a better 
explanation of the process to the masses.

In further reading, many of the apps that will work with this technology have 
yet to be developed or released.  Here’s a bit of an explanation from a 
Canadian prospective.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/apple-google-covid-app-1.5577166 



Later…


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On May 21, 2020, at 8:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really a 
bust.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
> of how it works.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, 
>> I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed 
>> it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID 
>> tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do 
>> to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect 
>> people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

The Learn More dialog doesn't really tell you much. It just talks about how 
exposure notification works. It doesn't say anything about what specific apps 
you need to install to use the feature. Under the Active App choice: I see no 
apps installed. So clearly Apple's COVID app is not an option. this is really a 
bust.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
> inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
> certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
> It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
> of how it works.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
>> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
>> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, 
>> I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed 
>> it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID 
>> tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do 
>> to utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect 
>> people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
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Re: How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you go in to Settings, Privacy, you can see the COVID-19 setting. When 
inside this setting there is a Learn More button. It seems that there are 
certain apps that you can allow access of the COVID-19 tracking system too. 
It’s not available in my region, so I’m not totally familiar with the details 
of how it works.

Later…



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2020, at 8:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. 
> Problem is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me 
> that it can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, 
> I went to the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed 
> it, and answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID 
> tracking in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do to 
> utilize this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect 
> people to use this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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How do I use the new COVID-19 tracking feature in IOS 13.5?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I just installed IOS 13.5 so I could use the COVID-19 tracking feature. Problem 
is, when I go into settings and enable COVID tracking, it tells me that it 
can't be enabled because I don't have a necessary app installed. So, I went to 
the app store and downloaded the Apple COVID-19 app. I installed it, and 
answered the questions, but I'm still getting the message that COVID tracking 
in settings cannot be enabled. Does anyone know what I need to do to utilize 
this feature? This is really a big miss by Apple. If they expect people to use 
this, they needed to let us know what we need to do.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Zoom on the mac?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, Zoom is good.  I am joining John for his online course in an hour using 
Zoom.

Kawal.

> On 21 May 2020, at 14:11, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis.  It is extremely 
> accessible and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my Windows 
> machine.
> Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for free from 
> the following link:
> 
> https://zoom.us/download 
> 
> There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore.  It is also 
> very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured as the Mac 
> version.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 21, 2020, at 06:47, Dezman Jackson  > wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but 
> you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.
> 
> Dezman 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:56 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
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>> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
>> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Burning CDs and cats

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Sorry, that was funny and I laughed.

> On 21 May 2020, at 09:33, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Did you ask the cat what she did?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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> Subject: Burning CDs and cats
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> Hi all,
> Excuse the rather odd subject of this email, but all will be explained.
> I was burning a MP3  audio book collection on to a writable DVD for my work 
> colleague and walked away for a moment. I had a nice little progress 
> indicator up on the screen telling me the progress. I’m not sure what this 
> looks like visually but one of my cats thought it looked pretty cool and let 
> on to my keyboard while I was away. I heard voice over saying something while 
> I was at the other end of the house so came back to check as the burn was 
> only about half way through. The cat jumped off the keyboard as I came back 
> in to the room but she managed to get rid of the progress indicator, lucky 
> she didn’t stop the burning process. I had no idea how to bring the progress 
> indicator back  up on the screen? How does one do this? I know I could have 
> asked this question without the cat detail, but I thought it was pretty 
> funny. Especially the little blurb noise she made as she ran away knowing she 
> did something wrong. I wasn’t sure if I could put the. Lid down on the 
> MacBook while burning a CD? Or I would have done it as the cat does enjoy the 
> flashing lights and colours on the screen.
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Re: Zoom on the mac?

[Brad Snyder]

I use Zoom on my Macs on pretty much a daily basis.  It is extremely accessible 
and I find it much easier to use on the Mac than on my Windows machine.
Zoom is not available from the Mac AppStore, but you can get it for free from 
the following link:

https://zoom.us/download 

There is also an iOS app that is available from the iOS AppStore.  It is also 
very accessible and easy to use, though not as full featured as the Mac version.

HTH

- Brad -


On May 21, 2020, at 06:47, Dezman Jackson  wrote:

Andrew,

Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but you 
can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.

Dezman 

> On May 21, 2020, at 5:56 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Zoom on the mac?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Andrew,

I use Zoom on the Mac all the time, both professionally and personally. The 
folks at Zoom have done a great job with accessibility. There are keyboard 
commands for most features, but there is also a good menu system that you can 
use if you forget the keyboard shortcuts. Just Google download Zoom, and you 
should have no problem finding it.
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On May 21, 2020, at 6:48 AM, Dezman Jackson  wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but 
> you can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.
> 
> Dezman 
> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 5:56 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
>> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Zoom on the mac?

[Dezman Jackson]

Andrew,

Yes, you absolutely can use Zoom on the Mac. I don’t remember exactly, but you 
can obtain it either from the Mac app store or from the Zoom website.

Dezman 

> On May 21, 2020, at 5:56 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
> situation more and more people are using Zoom.
> 
> Andrew
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Zoom on the mac?

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Can we use Zoom on the mac?  Anybody had luck doing so?  In this lockdown 
situation more and more people are using Zoom.

Andrew

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RE: Burning CDs and cats

[Simon A Fogarty]

Did you ask the cat what she did?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Burning CDs and cats

Hi all,
Excuse the rather odd subject of this email, but all will be explained.
I was burning a MP3  audio book collection on to a writable DVD for my work 
colleague and walked away for a moment. I had a nice little progress indicator 
up on the screen telling me the progress. I’m not sure what this looks like 
visually but one of my cats thought it looked pretty cool and let on to my 
keyboard while I was away. I heard voice over saying something while I was at 
the other end of the house so came back to check as the burn was only about 
half way through. The cat jumped off the keyboard as I came back in to the room 
but she managed to get rid of the progress indicator, lucky she didn’t stop the 
burning process. I had no idea how to bring the progress indicator back  up on 
the screen? How does one do this? I know I could have asked this question 
without the cat detail, but I thought it was pretty funny. Especially the 
little blurb noise she made as she ran away knowing she did something wrong. I 
wasn’t sure if I could put the. Lid down on the MacBook while burning a CD? Or 
I would have done it as the cat does enjoy the flashing lights and colours on 
the screen.
Thanks,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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