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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

interesting.  My mom's not all that particular about having the latest and 
greatest, so if it's slow under both Big Sur and Catalina, maybe I will just 
leave it with its current OS.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 3:39 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a late 2013 model MacBook Pro that is running Big Sur without any 
> apparent issues (apart from known Big Sur bugs, of course).
> 
> It's probably faster than your MacBook Air. Performance is rather slow, but 
> not obviously more so than under Catalina.
> 
> On 18/4/21 1:21 pm, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

That's what I was thinking, but I just wasn't sure whether to go all the way up 
to Big Sur, or just upgrade to Catalina.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 2:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Then, I suggest wiping it, and then do the upgrade.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'd use my valuable time because one possibility is that I will give it to my 
> mom.  She's older, and not very techie, so it'd be easier for me to do the 
> upgrade for her.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:01 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> +1 from me, too. If it’s already on Catalina, I’d think that’s a good 
>> starting point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable 
>> time to do the upgrade? If it were me, I’d simply indicate that the computer 
>> is on Catalina and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. 
>> You’re much better off, in my opinion.
>>  
>> Pete De Vasto 
>>  
>> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?
>>  
>> Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
>> upgrade or not.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on 
>>> Catalina and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
>>> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
  
 Hi all,
  
 I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
 decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
 sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
 running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
 TIA,
 Donna
  
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries

I have a late 2013 model MacBook Pro that is running Big Sur without any 
apparent issues (apart from known Big Sur bugs, of course).


It's probably faster than your MacBook Air. Performance is rather slow, 
but not obviously more so than under Catalina.


On 18/4/21 1:21 pm, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi all,

I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide 
whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to sell it, VO 
issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big Sur 
on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Brad Snyder

Then, I suggest wiping it, and then do the upgrade.


- Brad -


On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I'd use my valuable time because one possibility is that I will give it to my 
mom.  She's older, and not very techie, so it'd be easier for me to do the 
upgrade for her.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:01 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> +1 from me, too. If it’s already on Catalina, I’d think that’s a good 
> starting point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable 
> time to do the upgrade? If it were me, I’d simply indicate that the computer 
> is on Catalina and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. 
> You’re much better off, in my opinion.
>  
> Pete De Vasto 
>  
> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?
>  
> Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
> upgrade or not.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
>> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
>> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
>>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Brad Snyder

I’d just wipe it, and reload High Sierra.
Let the new owner decide what they want to do.

- Brad -


On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:15, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

It's not on Catalina, it's still running High Sierra, I think.
Thanks,

Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:44 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Karen Lewellen

okay then.
my two cents.
Leave the unit running the system best for the hardware itself, something
I imagine is easily discovered by either consulting apple's site or
giving them a call.
Same reasoning however. you want to sell from a place of, I now it works
perfectly right now.
If ou make changes, and there is a problem, the buyer may complaine that
you did not sell them what you advertised.

just my thoughts,
Kare

On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

It's not on Catalina, it's still running High Sierra, I think.
Thanks,

Donna

On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:44 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Hi,
I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina
and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
Thanks,
Rob

On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide
whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina. Since I’m going to sell it, VO
issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern. So, is anyone running Big Sur
on one of these Macs? If so, does it run OK?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Karen Lewellen

Additionally, if you now firmly that the machine runs well with its 
current  operating system, you do not want to upgrade.

Largely because you cannot guarantee the quality of what you are selling.
Let the buyer decide if they want to make changes after getting a machine 
working at its best when you make the sale.




On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:


+1 from me, too. If it???s already on Catalina, I???d think that???s a good 
starting point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable time 
to do the upgrade? If it were me, I???d simply indicate that the computer is on 
Catalina and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. You???re 
much better off, in my opinion.



Pete De Vasto



From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?



Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
upgrade or not.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens

Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer







On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

???Hi,
I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
I don???t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
Thanks,
Rob





On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hi all,



I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I???m getting redy to sell. I???m trying to 
decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I???m going to sell 
it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running 
Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?

TIA,

Donna



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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

I'd use my valuable time because one possibility is that I will give it to my 
mom.  She's older, and not very techie, so it'd be easier for me to do the 
upgrade for her.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:01 PM, pdevasto0...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> +1 from me, too. If it’s already on Catalina, I’d think that’s a good 
> starting point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable 
> time to do the upgrade? If it were me, I’d simply indicate that the computer 
> is on Catalina and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. 
> You’re much better off, in my opinion.
>  
> Pete De Vasto 
>  
> From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries  > 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?
>  
> Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
> upgrade or not.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified assistive technology specialist
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>  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
>> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
>> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>>  
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>>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

It's not on Catalina, it's still running High Sierra, I think.
Thanks,

Donna


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:44 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Dave Carlson

BTW while on this overall topic, is it still possible to downgrade from 
Catalina to Mojave?

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

On Apr 18, 2021, at 11:01 AM,   
wrote:

+1 from me, too. If it’s already on Catalina, I’d think that’s a good starting 
point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable time to do the 
upgrade? If it were me, I’d simply indicate that the computer is on Catalina 
and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. You’re much better 
off, in my opinion.
 
Pete De Vasto 
 
From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?
 
Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
upgrade or not.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
 


> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to 
>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread pdevasto0219

+1 from me, too. If it’s already on Catalina, I’d think that’s a good starting 
point for whoever gets it. Besides, why should use your valuable time to do the 
upgrade? If it were me, I’d simply indicate that the computer is on Catalina 
and let whoever buys it decide whether or not to upgrade. You’re much better 
off, in my opinion.

 

Pete De Vasto 

 

From: 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

 

Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
upgrade or not.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens

Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer

 





On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Hi,
I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
Thanks,
Rob





On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide 
whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to sell it, VO 
issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big Sur 
on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?

TIA,

Donna

 

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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread Dave Carlson

Personally I would be looking for a MacBook with Mojave, to use with older 
applications on that older hardware platform. Then  could upgrade my current 
Mac to Big Sur. 
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Apr 18, 2021, at 10:21 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide 
whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to sell it, VO 
issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big Sur 
on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries

Hi all, I agree with Robert. I would let the user decide if they want to 
upgrade or not.

God bless.
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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 13:44, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
> and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
> I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:21 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
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>> decide whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to 
>> sell it, VO issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone 
>> running Big Sur on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries

Hi,
I am writing to add my two cents, If it was me, I would leave it on Catalina 
and let the new owner upgrade if they want to.
I don’t know how well that model will run Big Sur. This is just my opinion.
Thanks,
Rob


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> issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big 
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> TIA,
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Anyone running Big Sur on a 2013 Macbook Air?

2021-04-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries

Hi all,

I have a 2013 Macbook Air that I’m getting redy to sell. I’m trying to decide 
whether to upgrade it to Big Sur or Catalina.  Since I’m going to sell it, VO 
issues with Big Sur are not of primary concern.  So, is anyone running Big Sur 
on one of these Macs?  If so, does it run OK?
TIA,
Donna

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