An iMessage bug with the latest Big Sur update.

[Herbie Allen]

After updating my Mac last night, I am suddenly experiencing something rather 
annoying. Now, in Messages when I interact with the conversation table, it 
takes me to the beginning of the list instead of where I am at in my 
conversations list. Since I have several pinned conversations, this is more 
noticeable to me as now I have to go through them in order to get to the rest 
of my messages.
Has anyone else experienced this bug?

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Re: A basic Mail question

[Lorie McCloud]

oh sorry. it works in Catalina.

> On May 26, 2021, at 9:20 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I can’t get this one to work.
> When I have interacted with the Mailbox table, this command moves one item at 
> a time.
> When I have not interacted with the Mailbox table, this command does nothing.
> 
> I am using Apple Mail on my Mac mini running Big Sur 11.4.
> I have my VO modifier set to be CMD + OPT 
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> - Brad -
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> 
> On May 26, 2021, at 01:57, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> to jump to the top, command-option up arrow. to the bottom, command-option 
> down-arrow.
> 
>> On May 26, 2021, at 12:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
>> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
>> when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
>> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
>> 
>> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
>> be looking in all the wrong places! 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
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Re: A basic Mail question

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



Cmd-up arrow to go to the top and cmd-down arrow to go to the bottom.  HTH.



Hi,




On 5/26/2021 1:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?

It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
be looking in all the wrong places! 

Thanks in advance,

Janina




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Re: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Not sure but I use e-sword x which is also a bible studding software.
Is it accessible on windows?
/A

> 26 maj 2021 kl. 14:52 skrev Brian Howerton :
> 
> Good morning everyone,
> Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last 
> time I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check 
> again. Thanks everyone,
> Brian
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Re: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

['Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
I used Logos many years ago when I still had some vision in my left eye. I had 
well over 3000 resources and really hated losing Logos Platinum Plus additional 
resources when I lost the rest of my vision a few years ago. There are a few 
Pastors like myself who worked with them in an attempts to increase 
accessibility. And some may still be working with them. However, I was informed 
maybe five years ago give or take a year that the programmer in charge of 
Accessibility was being reassigned to another project. That was a long time ago 
and things may have changed. But that was how it was back then. I very dearly 
miss those resources. Especially in my current position.
Merv


> On May 26, 2021, at 9:32 AM,   
> wrote:
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> Hi,
> According to this forum, Logos doesn't appear to be accessible.
> https://community.logos.com/forums/t/180385.aspx
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Brian Howerton
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status
> 
> Good morning everyone,
> Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last 
> time I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check 
> again. Thanks everyone, Brian
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bad News Bears MacBook Air 2011

[Traci Duncan]

Hi Tim. Thanks for the information. Thankfully, I did buy a new machine last 
fall. I've still been using the older MacBook Air occasionally though.

I may look into this, but you are right, $500 would not be worth it.

Thank you,
Traci

> On May 26, 2021, at 9:31 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, that sounds like a swolen battery.  From a safety prospective, you 
> should not even be plugging it in anymore, as it is at risk of bursting.  I’m 
> doubtful that you’ll be able to find a battery for that age of MacBook Air.  
> It’s certainly worth taking it in to an authorized Apple service provider 
> though to see.  My estimation is that it would be up to $500 to replace the 
> battery if it can be found.  That’s also hoping that there’s no damage to 
> anything inside due too the swollen battery.  Finances aside, my thought is 
> that you’d be best to simply get a new machine.  Again, if finances do not 
> permit this in your world, hopefully, something can be figured out.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On May 26, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Traci Duncan > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Al,
>> 
>> Has anyone tried to service an old MacBook? Is this something the Apple 
>> Store will still do?
>> 
>> My assumption here as I'm going to need the battery replaced. I opened up my 
>> old MacBook Air, and the trackpad is lifted upward. The battery is also 
>> nonresponsive. It remains at 0%, power connected, not charging.
>> 
>> What are your thoughts? Is it worth it? I have no idea how much it might 
>> cost.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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Re: Bad News Bears MacBook Air 2011

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, that sounds like a swolen battery.  From a safety prospective, you should 
not even be plugging it in anymore, as it is at risk of bursting.  I’m doubtful 
that you’ll be able to find a battery for that age of MacBook Air.  It’s 
certainly worth taking it in to an authorized Apple service provider though to 
see.  My estimation is that it would be up to $500 to replace the battery if it 
can be found.  That’s also hoping that there’s no damage to anything inside due 
too the swollen battery.  Finances aside, my thought is that you’d be best to 
simply get a new machine.  Again, if finances do not permit this in your world, 
hopefully, something can be figured out.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 26, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Al,
> 
> Has anyone tried to service an old MacBook? Is this something the Apple Store 
> will still do?
> 
> My assumption here as I'm going to need the battery replaced. I opened up my 
> old MacBook Air, and the trackpad is lifted upward. The battery is also 
> nonresponsive. It remains at 0%, power connected, not charging.
> 
> What are your thoughts? Is it worth it? I have no idea how much it might cost.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Bad News Bears MacBook Air 2011

[Traci Duncan]

Hi Al,

Has anyone tried to service an old MacBook? Is this something the Apple Store 
will still do?

My assumption here as I'm going to need the battery replaced. I opened up my 
old MacBook Air, and the trackpad is lifted upward. The battery is also 
nonresponsive. It remains at 0%, power connected, not charging.

What are your thoughts? Is it worth it? I have no idea how much it might cost.

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: A basic Mail question

[Brad Snyder]

I can’t get this one to work.
When I have interacted with the Mailbox table, this command moves one item at a 
time.
When I have not interacted with the Mailbox table, this command does nothing.

I am using Apple Mail on my Mac mini running Big Sur 11.4.
I have my VO modifier set to be CMD + OPT 

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On May 26, 2021, at 01:57, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

to jump to the top, command-option up arrow. to the bottom, command-option 
down-arrow.

> On May 26, 2021, at 12:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
> when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
> 
> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
> be looking in all the wrong places! 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
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> https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
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> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
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Re: A basic Mail question

[Brad Snyder]

CMD + OPT + Up/Down Arrow works only when interacting with the Mailbox table.
OPT + Up/Down Arrow should work all the time. 

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On May 26, 2021, at 06:16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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Yes, that's the magic! Thanks, Lorie!

Janina

Lorie McCloud writes:
> to jump to the top, command-option up arrow. to the bottom, command-option 
> down-arrow.
> 
>> On May 26, 2021, at 12:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
>> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
>> when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
>> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
>> 
>> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
>> be looking in all the wrong places! 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> 
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Re: A basic Mail question

[Brad Snyder]

Make sure you have Keyboard Commander turned off, or at least not set to use 
both Option keys.

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On May 26, 2021, at 06:15, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Not working, sorry to say.

Brad Snyder writes:
> 
> Try using OPT + UpArrow, to go to the top of a mailbox list, and OPT + 
> DownArrow, to go to the bottom of the list.
> 
> HTH.
> 
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> 
> 
> On May 26, 2021, at 00:56, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
> when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
> 
> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
> be looking in all the wrong places! 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
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RE: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[skipper8218]

Hi,
According to this forum, Logos doesn't appear to be accessible.
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/180385.aspx

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Subject: Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

Good morning everyone,
Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last time 
I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check again. 
Thanks everyone, Brian

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Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[Brian Howerton]

Good morning everyone,
Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last time 
I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check again. 
Thanks everyone,
Brian

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Re: A basic Mail question

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, that's the magic! Thanks, Lorie!

Janina

Lorie McCloud writes:
> to jump to the top, command-option up arrow. to the bottom, command-option 
> down-arrow.
> 
> > On May 26, 2021, at 12:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
> > keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
> > when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
> > do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
> > 
> > It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
> > be looking in all the wrong places! 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
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> > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> > 
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> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org
> > 
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Re: A basic Mail question

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Not working, sorry to say.

Brad Snyder writes:
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> Try using OPT + UpArrow, to go to the top of a mailbox list, and OPT + 
> DownArrow, to go to the bottom of the list.
> 
> HTH.
> 
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> 
> 
> On May 26, 2021, at 00:56, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
> when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
> 
> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
> be looking in all the wrong places! 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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> https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> 
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Re: A basic Mail question

[Lorie McCloud]

to jump to the top, command-option up arrow. to the bottom, command-option 
down-arrow.

> On May 26, 2021, at 12:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
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> do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?
> 
> It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
> be looking in all the wrong places! 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: A basic Mail question

[Brad Snyder]

Try using OPT + UpArrow, to go to the top of a mailbox list, and OPT + 
DownArrow, to go to the bottom of the list.

HTH.

- Brad -


On May 26, 2021, at 00:56, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?

It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
be looking in all the wrong places! 

Thanks in advance,

Janina


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