ports on the new iMac

[Marie Lyons]

Recently I came across an article about Apple slimming down the Mac but losing 
ports in the process. When I went back later to read the article I couldn’t 
find it. Does anyone know anything about this?

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Re: Apple Music or other provider

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I will of course start with the same caveat that others have offered - that 
this is a very subjective decision.  But I agree with Anders and Mary.  I like 
Apple Music a lot.  It is very accessible as Anders says.  I also like how it 
interfaces with my Music library.  For example, if I tell Siri to play an album 
from my library, that album will play, and then Apple Music will keep playing 
music that is similar to that album until I tell it to stop.  I’ve discovered 
quite a bit of new music that way.

I have Apple Music, free Pandora, and free Spotify.  Of the three, my favorite 
is Apple Music.  If you use Siri a lot to play music, I think Apple Music is 
the easiest.  Pandora works pretty well, and, though I haven’t tried it, I 
think there’ve been improvements in how Spotify works with Siri.  But I find 
Apple Music to be most seamless.

Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I think you should stay.
> Apple Music is really good.
> And I think its good in terms of accessibility too.
> /A
> 
>> 18 juni 2021 kl. 15:50 skrev Rebecca Sabo > >:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
>> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your 
>> and your subscription? Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronald,
>> 
>> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
>> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
>> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
>> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
>> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
>> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
>> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
>> 
>> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
>> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
>> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
>> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
>> drawbacks of each.
>> 
>> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
>> biases.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
 you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that 
 is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
 music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
 perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be 
 played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has 
 HDMI input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the 
 video when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote 
 for the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
 
 I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
 outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
 you’ll need to confirm.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:

Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi,

Yeah, I think you should wait to upgrade your Mac. If you are planning to buy 
an Apple Silicon based M1 Mac that is, because there will probably be a more 
powerful version coming in the next couple of monts with the name M1X or M2. 
I am not totally sure if I want an Apple Silicon based Mac myself, but when I 
do I want the more powerful next version of the M1. The current M1 is used in 
all M1 Mac’s to this date, and are low to mid end machines.

Ronald
 

> Op 18 jun. 2021, om 17:19 heeft Jijesh A  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Thank you very much sir,
> Do you think whether I have to wait for next update   of Mac? I was told  
> there maybe an update in September. I   
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> No, you cannot use a M1 Mac with Bootcamp. The only solution at  the moment 
>> is a virtual machine from Parallels running the ARM-based version of Windows.
>> I also use Pro Tools, but dont’ think Pro Tools is supported nativily on M1 
>> Mac’s yet. It will probably run through Rosetta 2 though. Don’t know how 
>> well that works.
>> If you are using a 512gb hdd for Mac OS only and put all sound libraries on 
>> external ones, it could be enough for audio work. On the other hand, you 
>> mention internal hdd upgrades at Apple are expensive, have you seen prices 
>> of Thunderbolt external drives? These are not cheap also.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 18 jun. 2021, om 05:24 heeft Jijesh A >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> What do you think about hard disk consideration while I use it for music 
>>> and sound editing purpose does one TB help or can I go ahead with 512 GB 
>>> hard drive plus an external thunderbolt hard drive for Apple they are 
>>> charging enough money for  hard disk upgradation
>>> And I am wondering whether I can use this M1 processor for Boot Camp 
>>> partition
 On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:28 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 ZoomI’d say 200 Gb should be ample.  Gives you room for data storage both 
 on the Windows and Mac sides as well as space to work.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jun 17, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Fazil  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks much, Tim. in my MacBook-Pro,
> I have 512GB with 16GB of RAM, how much should my realistic allocation be 
> for Windows10 if I want to install it with Bootcamp?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>  
> Hi,
>  
> 256 should be sufficient for both, unless you plan on saving all data 
> locally.  An external could be used to save data that’s not going to be 
> used right away.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Tim.
>> Should 256GB be exclusively for Windows or total 256gb is sufficient for 
>> both?
>> Thanks!
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > > 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> How much RAM in this MacBook Pro?  Using ProTools are best ran with at 
>> least 8 Gb RAM, but I’d recommend 16 Gb for best results.  With respect 
>> to BootCamp and Windows, the answer is definitely yes.  Drive space is a 
>> consideration when installing Windows, so if you have at least a 256 Gb 
>> drive, preferably SSD or flash storage, then you should be good to go.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Jijesh A >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Respected friends,
>>> At present I am using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2015 model I have a plan to 
>>> upgrade my MacBook Pro to use with following software's pro tools, and 
>>> logic pro. I am wondering 

Re: Apple Music or other provider

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think you should stay.
Apple Music is really good.
And I think its good in terms of accessibility too.
/A

> 18 juni 2021 kl. 15:50 skrev Rebecca Sabo :
> 
> Hi all
> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
> your subscription? Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
> 
> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
> drawbacks of each.
> 
> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 
> 
> 
> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
> biases.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks again.
>> 
>> Ronald
>>  
>> 
>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is 
>>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played 
>>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI 
>>> input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video 
>>> when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for 
>>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>>> 
>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
>>> you’ll need to confirm.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if 
 the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if 
 it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? 
 From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
 
 Ronald
 
 
> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> According to this post:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
> 
> 
> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
> 
> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 
> Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports 
> it, lossless and Dolby Atmos 

Re: Apple Music or other provider

[Mary Otten]

As somebody else already said, that decision is up to you, based on your usage 
and whether you’re happy with the service. You can save some money if you get a 
yearly subscription. I believe the cost for that is $100, or $99.99. That means 
that you would be saving about $20 over the monthly price. I like Apple Music. 
Others like Spotify. If you have AirPods Pro or AirPods Max, he would be able 
to take advantage of spatial audio, which I think is kind of cool.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:50 AM, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
> free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
> your subscription? Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or 
> AirPlay 2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if 
> Apple made the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in 
> the way that they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would 
> make things extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available 
> on my AV receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole 
> Apple TV connection may not be needed.
> 
> Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
> disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use 
> case, your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  
> Here’s an article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and 
> drawbacks of each.
> 
> https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/
> 
> Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
> biases.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
>> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
>> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
>> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
>> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
>> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
>> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
>> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
>> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the 
>> way Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks again.
>> 
>> Ronald
>>  
>> 
>>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If 
>>> you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is 
>>> in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the 
>>> music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is 
>>> perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played 
>>> via the Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI 
>>> input, you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video 
>>> when playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for 
>>> the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>>> 
>>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and 
>>> outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then 
>>> you’ll need to confirm.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if 
 the music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if 
 it does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? 
 From the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
 
 Ronald
 
 
> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> According to this post:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734
> 
> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
> 
> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 

Re: Xcode accessibility and best MacBook for coding?

[Barry Hadder]

The simulator bundled with Xcode 12.5 is accessible.  The simulator with Xcode 
13 has issues.


> On Jun 18, 2021, at 09:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Xcode on Mac is perfectly accessible.  The problem will arise when using the 
> simulator to test your code.  That, being that it is a graphic representation 
> of an iPad or iPhone, is not accessible.  You can though directly install 
> your coded app directly onto your iPad or iPhone and determine things from 
> there.  Of course, this is not necessarily the most secure way of testing 
> things as you could be putting an app onto your device that is flawed.  In 
> most cases though, the coding you’d be doing in a introductory course should 
> not hurt anything on your device.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Sadam Ahmed > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> I’m thinking of doing a short course on Swift at my University. 
>> How accessible is Xcode on the Mac when it comes to building an app for 
>> iPhone? 
>> Also, I’ll be using a MBA with 8 GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. 
>> Do you think the above is OK for development? 
>> Kind wishes if you can help. 
>> Respectfully, 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
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Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

There’s upgrades every Fall for the MacOS as well as iPadOS and iOS.  There’s 
no real need to wait.  You can simply upgrade after the new MacOS is released.  
It’s a free upgrade anyway.

Later…


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Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Jijesh A  wrote:
> 
> Thank you very much sir,
> Do you think whether I have to wait for next update   of Mac? I was told  
> there maybe an update in September. I   
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Ronald van Rhijn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> No, you cannot use a M1 Mac with Bootcamp. The only solution at  the moment 
>> is a virtual machine from Parallels running the ARM-based version of Windows.
>> I also use Pro Tools, but dont’ think Pro Tools is supported nativily on M1 
>> Mac’s yet. It will probably run through Rosetta 2 though. Don’t know how 
>> well that works.
>> If you are using a 512gb hdd for Mac OS only and put all sound libraries on 
>> external ones, it could be enough for audio work. On the other hand, you 
>> mention internal hdd upgrades at Apple are expensive, have you seen prices 
>> of Thunderbolt external drives? These are not cheap also.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 18 jun. 2021, om 05:24 heeft Jijesh A >> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> What do you think about hard disk consideration while I use it for music 
>>> and sound editing purpose does one TB help or can I go ahead with 512 GB 
>>> hard drive plus an external thunderbolt hard drive for Apple they are 
>>> charging enough money for  hard disk upgradation
>>> And I am wondering whether I can use this M1 processor for Boot Camp 
>>> partition
 On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:28 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 ZoomI’d say 200 Gb should be ample.  Gives you room for data storage both 
 on the Windows and Mac sides as well as space to work.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jun 17, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Fazil  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks much, Tim. in my MacBook-Pro,
> I have 512GB with 16GB of RAM, how much should my realistic allocation be 
> for Windows10 if I want to install it with Bootcamp?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>  
> Hi,
>  
> 256 should be sufficient for both, unless you plan on saving all data 
> locally.  An external could be used to save data that’s not going to be 
> used right away.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Fazil > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Tim.
>> Should 256GB be exclusively for Windows or total 256gb is sufficient for 
>> both?
>> Thanks!
>>  
>>  
>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > > 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> How much RAM in this MacBook Pro?  Using ProTools are best ran with at 
>> least 8 Gb RAM, but I’d recommend 16 Gb for best results.  With respect 
>> to BootCamp and Windows, the answer is definitely yes.  Drive space is a 
>> consideration when installing Windows, so if you have at least a 256 Gb 
>> drive, preferably SSD or flash storage, then you should be good to go.
>>  
>> Later…
>>  
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Jijesh A >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Respected friends,
>>> At present I am using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2015 model I have a plan to 
>>> upgrade my MacBook Pro to use with following software's pro tools, and 
>>> logic pro. I am wondering whether I can install windows along with boot 
>>> camp I really appreciate your valuable feedback on my plan.
>>> With warm regards.

Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro

[Jijesh A]

Thank you very much sir,
Do you think whether I have to wait for next update   of Mac? I was told  there 
maybe an update in September. I 

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No, you cannot use a M1 Mac with Bootcamp. The only solution at  the moment 
> is a virtual machine from Parallels running the ARM-based version of Windows.
> I also use Pro Tools, but dont’ think Pro Tools is supported nativily on M1 
> Mac’s yet. It will probably run through Rosetta 2 though. Don’t know how well 
> that works.
> If you are using a 512gb hdd for Mac OS only and put all sound libraries on 
> external ones, it could be enough for audio work. On the other hand, you 
> mention internal hdd upgrades at Apple are expensive, have you seen prices of 
> Thunderbolt external drives? These are not cheap also.
> 
> Ronald
> 
> 
> 
>> Op 18 jun. 2021, om 05:24 heeft Jijesh A > > het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> What do you think about hard disk consideration while I use it for music and 
>> sound editing purpose does one TB help or can I go ahead with 512 GB hard 
>> drive plus an external thunderbolt hard drive for Apple they are charging 
>> enough money for  hard disk upgradation 
>> And I am wondering whether I can use this M1 processor for Boot Camp 
>> partition
>>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:28 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> ZoomI’d say 200 Gb should be ample.  Gives you room for data storage both 
>>> on the Windows and Mac sides as well as space to work.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jun 17, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Fazil >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks much, Tim. in my MacBook-Pro,
 I have 512GB with 16GB of RAM, how much should my realistic allocation be 
 for Windows10 if I want to install it with Bootcamp?
 Thanks!
  
  
 From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> > 
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:38 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
  
 Hi,
  
 256 should be sufficient for both, unless you plan on saving all data 
 locally.  An external could be used to save data that’s not going to be 
 used right away.
  
 Later…
  
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 
> On Jun 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Fazil  > wrote:
>  
> Hi, Tim.
> Should 256GB be exclusively for Windows or total 256gb is sufficient for 
> both?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  > 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>  
> Hi,
>  
> How much RAM in this MacBook Pro?  Using ProTools are best ran with at 
> least 8 Gb RAM, but I’d recommend 16 Gb for best results.  With respect 
> to BootCamp and Windows, the answer is definitely yes.  Drive space is a 
> consideration when installing Windows, so if you have at least a 256 Gb 
> drive, preferably SSD or flash storage, then you should be good to go.
>  
> Later…
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Jijesh A > > wrote:
>>  
>> Respected friends,
>> At present I am using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2015 model I have a plan to 
>> upgrade my MacBook Pro to use with following software's pro tools, and 
>> logic pro. I am wondering whether I can install windows along with boot 
>> camp I really appreciate your valuable feedback on my plan.
>> With warm regards.
>> Jijesh.
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Re: Xcode accessibility and best MacBook for coding?

[Tibor Niesner]

Hello,

Xcode is verry accessible with VoiceOver.
There is a simulator for application, which is not accessible with VO.
You can connect your devices (iPhone, iPad), where you can give your app from 
Xcode. The app on iPhone or iPad is verry accessible, you can normally work 
with app on the IOS/iPad OS devices.
So if you have any IOS devices so I recommend work with app on the physical on 
the IOS devices.

Best regard.

Tibor Niesner

> 18. 6. 2021 v 13:54, Sadam Ahmed :
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> I’m thinking of doing a short course on Swift at my University. 
> How accessible is Xcode on the Mac when it comes to building an app for 
> iPhone? 
> Also, I’ll be using a MBA with 8 GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. 
> Do you think the above is OK for development? 
> Kind wishes if you can help. 
> Respectfully, 
> Sadam Ahmed 
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Re: Xcode accessibility and best MacBook for coding?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Oops, forgot to mention that the Mac you’ve mentioned should work just fine for 
this activity.

Later…


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Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 8:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Xcode on Mac is perfectly accessible.  The problem will arise when using the 
> simulator to test your code.  That, being that it is a graphic representation 
> of an iPad or iPhone, is not accessible.  You can though directly install 
> your coded app directly onto your iPad or iPhone and determine things from 
> there.  Of course, this is not necessarily the most secure way of testing 
> things as you could be putting an app onto your device that is flawed.  In 
> most cases though, the coding you’d be doing in a introductory course should 
> not hurt anything on your device.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Sadam Ahmed > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> I’m thinking of doing a short course on Swift at my University. 
>> How accessible is Xcode on the Mac when it comes to building an app for 
>> iPhone? 
>> Also, I’ll be using a MBA with 8 GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. 
>> Do you think the above is OK for development? 
>> Kind wishes if you can help. 
>> Respectfully, 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
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Re: trying to clean install catalina on 2012 mac book pro please help.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Trahern,

Since you are already running Catalina, the easiest way to do the fresh install 
would be to do it from the Recovery partition.

• shutdown your computer.
• start your computer while holding down the cmd and r keys together.  Keep 
them down for about seven or eight seconds after the startup chime.  If you do 
not have a chime on your computer, hold them down for about 10 seconds.
• wait for a minute or more as the Recovery starts up, then press cmd-f5 to 
turn on VO.
• select Disk Utility from the MacOS Utilities window, then Continue.
• interact with the table of disks, and select the Macintosh HD.
• stop interacting with the table, VO-left to the Toolbar and interact with it.
• VO-space on the Erase button.
• make sure that the name remains as Macintosh HD, format is APFS.
• VO-space on the “Erase Volume Group” button.  This will erase both the 
Macintosh HD and Macintosh HD Data volumes creating just one for the clean 
install.  Pressing the Erase instead of the Erase Volume Group will not be a 
true clean install.
• follow any prompts.
• once it has finished, VO-space on the Done button.
• press cmd-q to Quit Disk Utility.
• select Reinstall MacOS from the table and press Continue.
• follow the prompts agreeing to all things you need to agree with, choose the 
Macintosh HD and install the MacOS.

Note that in this scenario, you do not need to download any installation app as 
a brand new copy is automatically downloaded from Apple and installed.  Because 
you are already running Catalina, and because you used the cmd+r key 
combination when entering Recovery, you will get the newest version of that 
same MacOS.  After it’s done its installation thing and restarted itself, you 
will be presented with the Language Chooser and the normal setup screens after 
a brand new clean installation.

Good luck.

Later…



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> On Jun 17, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Trahern Culver  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Tim, thank you for your reply. Yes this is legitimate signed copy of the 
> installer. The Mac is already run in Catalina so I know this will Not  be an  
> issue.
> 
> On 17 Jun 2021, at 04:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My first questions is, where did you get the Catalina installer from?  If it 
> is not a signed installer from Apple, you will have problems trying to 
> install it.  Second, what system version is currently on the Mac?  Finally, 
> are you positive that your 2012 MacBook Pro will support Catalina?  It needs 
> to be the mid 2012 model or newer.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 8:52 PM, sound.w...@gmail.com  
>> mailto:sound.warrio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone hope you're doing well and staying safe. I have a 2012 MacBook 
>> Pro 8gb ram 1tb hd 2.9gb i7 dule core processer. I have an application file 
>> of  the Catalina installer, I want to clean install Catalina on this Mac. 
>> When I open the application file  absolutely nothing happeneds. Does anybody 
>> have any idea as to why this could be or how   I can solve this problem? 
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your help good people take care and stay safe 
>> everybody :-)
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Re: Xcode accessibility and best MacBook for coding?

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Hi,

Xcode on Mac is perfectly accessible.  The problem will arise when using the 
simulator to test your code.  That, being that it is a graphic representation 
of an iPad or iPhone, is not accessible.  You can though directly install your 
coded app directly onto your iPad or iPhone and determine things from there.  
Of course, this is not necessarily the most secure way of testing things as you 
could be putting an app onto your device that is flawed.  In most cases though, 
the coding you’d be doing in a introductory course should not hurt anything on 
your device.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> I’m thinking of doing a short course on Swift at my University. 
> How accessible is Xcode on the Mac when it comes to building an app for 
> iPhone? 
> Also, I’ll be using a MBA with 8 GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. 
> Do you think the above is OK for development? 
> Kind wishes if you can help. 
> Respectfully, 
> Sadam Ahmed 
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Re: Apple Music or other provider

[Brad Snyder]

I think that is a question that only you can answer for yourself.
Once your trial subscription ends in July, you will be charged $9.99 USD per 
month, if you decide to keep the service.
If you feel the Apple Music service is worth $9.99 each month, then you should 
keep it.  If you do not feel the service is worth $9.99, then you should end 
your subscription at least 1 day before the end of your trial, and you will not 
be charged.

- Brad -


On Jun 18, 2021, at 08:50, Rebecca Sabo  wrote:

Hi all
I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
your subscription? Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Ronald,

You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or AirPlay 
2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if Apple made 
the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in the way that 
they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would make things 
extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available on my AV 
receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole Apple TV 
connection may not be needed.

Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use case, 
your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  Here’s an 
article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and drawbacks of 
each.

https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/ 


Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
biases.

Later…


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
> Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
> 
> Anyways, thanks again.
> 
> Ronald
>  
> 
>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
>> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
>> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
>> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
>> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
>> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, 
>> you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when 
>> playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the 
>> Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>> 
>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
>> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need 
>> to confirm.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
 Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Ronald,
 
 According to this post:
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 
 
 
 Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
 reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
 lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
 
 The best way 

Apple Music or other provider

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi all
I have a free subscription of Apple Music, I got it  when I got my iPad. My 
free subscription ends in July. What should I do should I stay or is your and 
your subscription? Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi Ronald,

You’re most welcome.  Yes, modifying the decoder within the AirPlay or AirPlay 
2  protocol would be a great solution.  It would be interesting if Apple made 
the Apple Music app available to be installed on sound systems in the way that 
they made Apple TV installable on some smart TV’s.  This would make things 
extremely easy in my opinion.  I know that Spotify is available on my AV 
receiver, so if Apple Music was available as well, then the whole Apple TV 
connection may not be needed.

Regarding the Chrome Cast vs AirPlay question, there’s advantages and 
disadvantages to both devices.  Of course, it likely depends on your use case, 
your adoption of one eco-system vs the other, and other factors.  Here’s an 
article where one person gives there opinion on the benefits and drawbacks of 
each.

https://www.allhomerobotics.com/airplay-vs-chromecast-which-one/

Remember, this is only the opinion of this fellow and we all have our own 
biases.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Many thanks for all your information, really appreciate it!
> So I have to run the Apple Music app on Apple TV 4k and send the audio 
> through a hdmi cable to the audio device. That figures, it is a bit 
> cumbersome to have to do it this way though. 
> There’s hope that Apple will fix this lossless to lossy stream, because 
> Airplay is able to stream lossless after all.
> The audio device isn’t a normal receiver, its a complete music-system. So I 
> definately have to check for hdmi ports on that.
> On another note, i cannot get why Apple only offers Airplay. I prefer the way 
> Chromecast does it, it gets its own signal from the internet.
> 
> Anyways, thanks again.
> 
> Ronald
>  
> 
>  Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:48 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver.  If you 
>> AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in 
>> control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, 
>> and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth.   The Apple TV 4K is perfectly 
>> accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the 
>> Siri remote for the Apple TV.  As long as the receiver has HDMI input, 
>> you’re good to go.  There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when 
>> playing music.  There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the 
>> Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
>> 
>> I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, 
>> but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need 
>> to confirm.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the 
>>> music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it 
>>> does and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From 
>>> the Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method.
>>> 
>>> Ronald
>>> 
>>> 
 Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
  het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Ronald,
 
 According to this post:
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734
 
 Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some 
 reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be 
 lossless by the time it reaches your receiver.
 
 The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an 
 Apple TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver.  If your system supports 
 it, lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from 
 the Apple TV 4K using this setup.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing 
> should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is 
> not every track is available in lossless yet, 

Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi,

No, you cannot use a M1 Mac with Bootcamp. The only solution at  the moment is 
a virtual machine from Parallels running the ARM-based version of Windows.
I also use Pro Tools, but dont’ think Pro Tools is supported nativily on M1 
Mac’s yet. It will probably run through Rosetta 2 though. Don’t know how well 
that works.
If you are using a 512gb hdd for Mac OS only and put all sound libraries on 
external ones, it could be enough for audio work. On the other hand, you 
mention internal hdd upgrades at Apple are expensive, have you seen prices of 
Thunderbolt external drives? These are not cheap also.

Ronald



> Op 18 jun. 2021, om 05:24 heeft Jijesh A  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> What do you think about hard disk consideration while I use it for music and 
> sound editing purpose does one TB help or can I go ahead with 512 GB hard 
> drive plus an external thunderbolt hard drive for Apple they are charging 
> enough money for  hard disk upgradation  
> And I am wondering whether I can use this M1 processor for Boot Camp partition
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:28 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> ZoomI’d say 200 Gb should be ample.  Gives you room for data storage both on 
>> the Windows and Mac sides as well as space to work.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Fazil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks much, Tim. in my MacBook-Pro,
>>> I have 512GB with 16GB of RAM, how much should my realistic allocation be 
>>> for Windows10 if I want to install it with Bootcamp?
>>> Thanks!
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> > 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:38 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> 256 should be sufficient for both, unless you plan on saving all data 
>>> locally.  An external could be used to save data that’s not going to be 
>>> used right away.
>>>  
>>> Later…
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Fazil >>> > wrote:
  
 Hi, Tim.
 Should 256GB be exclusively for Windows or total 256gb is sufficient for 
 both?
 Thanks!
  
  
 From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> > 
 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:24 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Re: My plan to upgrade MacBook Pro
  
 Hi,
  
 How much RAM in this MacBook Pro?  Using ProTools are best ran with at 
 least 8 Gb RAM, but I’d recommend 16 Gb for best results.  With respect to 
 BootCamp and Windows, the answer is definitely yes.  Drive space is a 
 consideration when installing Windows, so if you have at least a 256 Gb 
 drive, preferably SSD or flash storage, then you should be good to go.
  
 Later…
  
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 
 
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Jijesh A  > wrote:
>  
> Respected friends,
> At present I am using a MacBook Pro 13 inch 2015 model I have a plan to 
> upgrade my MacBook Pro to use with following software's pro tools, and 
> logic pro. I am wondering whether I can install windows along with boot 
> camp I really appreciate your valuable feedback on my plan.
> With warm regards.
> Jijesh.
> 
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Xcode accessibility and best MacBook for coding?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi everyone, 
I’m thinking of doing a short course on Swift at my University. 
How accessible is Xcode on the Mac when it comes to building an app for iPhone? 
Also, I’ll be using a MBA with 8 GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. 
Do you think the above is OK for development? 
Kind wishes if you can help. 
Respectfully, 
Sadam Ahmed 

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