Re: Apple Mail Question

[Lorie McCloud]

I have another Apple mail question. I have 2 email accounts, gmail and iCloud. 
once in awhile I want to go and dig an email out of the trash or at least look 
at it. I can find the trash for gmail but not for iCloud. pressing right arrow 
to expand the trash doesn't seem to do any good. where is the iCloud trash? 
this is in Monterey.

thanks.
Lorie

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 11:43 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it sounds like your student has Column View enabled, and you do not.
> Actually, I much prefer Column View, but that is an individual choice.
> 
> Column View can be enabled/disabled by going to the Menu Bar > View, and 
> pressing the Down Arrow until you get to Column View.  Now press the Enter 
> key to either select (check) or deselect (uncheck) as you prefer.
> 
> As Herbie stated, make sure that your student has QuickNav turned off, or 
> uses the VO modifier when navigating, after interacting with the Mailbox 
> contents table.
> Note:  With QuickNav turned off, the Mailbox contents table may be navigated 
> without interacting with the table.  The same is true for the Mailbox list.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 23:17, Herbie Allen  > wrote:
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> Make sure use column layout is unchecked in the view menu. If quicknav is 
> off, then she should be able to go through the mail list without interacting.
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 20:16, Holly Jensen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am teaching a student how to access mail with Voiceover on her Mac. When 
>> she interacts with the table that holds her mail messages, she gets this 
>> table with a lot of columns. When I do it on my Mac, it only reads the 
>> subject and then the preview. for the life of me, I cannot remember how I 
>> set it up to do that, or if I even did. She is running OSX Big Sir. Any 
>> advice would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Holly
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Re: Apple Mail Question

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, it sounds like your student has Column View enabled, and you do not.
Actually, I much prefer Column View, but that is an individual choice.

Column View can be enabled/disabled by going to the Menu Bar > View, and 
pressing the Down Arrow until you get to Column View.  Now press the Enter key 
to either select (check) or deselect (uncheck) as you prefer.

As Herbie stated, make sure that your student has QuickNav turned off, or uses 
the VO modifier when navigating, after interacting with the Mailbox contents 
table.
Note:  With QuickNav turned off, the Mailbox contents table may be navigated 
without interacting with the table.  The same is true for the Mailbox list.

HTH.

- Brad -




On Jan 26, 2022, at 23:17, Herbie Allen  wrote:

Make sure use column layout is unchecked in the view menu. If quicknav is off, 
then she should be able to go through the mail list without interacting.

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 20:16, Holly Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am teaching a student how to access mail with Voiceover on her Mac. When 
> she interacts with the table that holds her mail messages, she gets this 
> table with a lot of columns. When I do it on my Mac, it only reads the 
> subject and then the preview. for the life of me, I cannot remember how I set 
> it up to do that, or if I even did. She is running OSX Big Sir. Any advice 
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Holly
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Re: Apple Mail Question

[Herbie Allen]

Make sure use column layout is unchecked in the view menu. If quicknav is off, 
then she should be able to go through the mail list without interacting.

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 20:16, Holly Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am teaching a student how to access mail with Voiceover on her Mac. When 
> she interacts with the table that holds her mail messages, she gets this 
> table with a lot of columns. When I do it on my Mac, it only reads the 
> subject and then the preview. for the life of me, I cannot remember how I set 
> it up to do that, or if I even did. She is running OSX Big Sir. Any advice 
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Holly
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Apple Mail Question

[Holly Jensen]

Hi,

I am teaching a student how to access mail with Voiceover on her Mac. When she 
interacts with the table that holds her mail messages, she gets this table with 
a lot of columns. When I do it on my Mac, it only reads the subject and then 
the preview. for the life of me, I cannot remember how I set it up to do that, 
or if I even did. She is running OSX Big Sir. Any advice would be appreciated.

Holly

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Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

[joseph hudson]

Hey thanks, I have successfully added myself.

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Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

[Michael Marshall]

What exactly is googles problem? have they actually earmarked anything that 
could be potentially harmful? I just don't get this.

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Re: External Drive for Mac?

[Herbie Allen]

Correct.

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 18:40, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> So any drive can be used? There is no specific drive for Mac, right?
> Thanks!
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>  Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives 
> and regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s 
> several years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  
> problems.
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 16:32, Fazil M. > > wrote:
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>> Hi, list.
>> Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?
>> Thanks!
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RE: External Drive for Mac?

[Fazil M.]

So any drive can be used? There is no specific drive for Mac, right?

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 2:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: External Drive for Mac?

 

 Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives and 
regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s several 
years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  problems.





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Hi, list.

Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Sound from a windows laptop to iMac speakers

[Jonathan Cohn]

If you want to do things wirelessly, the below application might help. I 
thought that Rogue Ameba had software for this too, and I trust them to be 
accessible, but then I believe MacOS was adding the ability to receive AirPlay 
2 sound streams.
https://www.airserver.com/PC 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Thank you Joseph for the suggestions I will try it and if I have any 
> questions I’ll come back and ask
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>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 9:57 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> It could be the Bluetooth might be turned off. And if it came, there should 
>> be a connect button. I'm not for sure of the process. As I've never done 
>> something like this. Perhaps, you could ask on a Josh related list and 
>> somebody might be able to help you. I like the other idea of the patch 
>> cables as well. But if you're wanting a more wireless approach I think the 
>> Bluetooth option would be better.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 4:58 PM, FIOGKOS >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes my laptop has Bluetooth if it can’t see my Mac do you know why? And if 
>>> it can see my Mac what steps would I have to take to connect the two so 
>>> that I can hear jaws through my iMac speakers? Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
 On Jan 24, 2022, at 5:38 PM, Joseph Hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 If your Windows laptop has Bluetooth, and it can see your Mac, that’s the 
 way I would connect the two together.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 4:24 PM, FIOGKOS  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi everybody hope you’re well, I hope somebody can help even though 
> something tells me this cannot be done. My question is this, is there a 
> way to hook up my Windows laptop to my iMac so that I can hear the sound 
> coming out of my Windows laptop through my iMac speakers?
> Thanks for any help in advance.
> Regards zoe
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Re: External Drive for Mac?

[Herbie Allen]

No

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 16:47, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> Did you have to format the drive first?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>  Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives 
> and regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s 
> several years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  
> problems.
> 
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 16:32, Fazil M. > > wrote:
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>> Hi, list.
>> Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?
>> Thanks!
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RE: External Drive for Mac?

[Rebecca Skipper]

Did you have to format the drive first?

 

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 Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives and 
regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s several 
years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  problems.





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Hi, list.

Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: External Drive for Mac?

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 Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives and 
regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s several 
years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  problems.

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External Drive for Mac?

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Hi, list.

Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?

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Re: Apple Pay

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hi.

I use Apple Pay using my watch as it’s difficult to use Apple Pay with a phone 
which has Face ID if you are wearing a mask in shops.  I just locate the reader 
and put my watch near it and press the side button.

Kawal.

> On 26 Jan 2022, at 17:33, joseph hodge  wrote:
> 
> Just chiming in here greg is correct. Walmart is trying to push their own app 
> and agenda for payments so they don’t allow for Apple Pay. It’s so ridiculous 
> but that’s America. I forget what they called there app but when I last heard 
> about it it was doing a lot of tracking. That’s what makes us payment stuff 
> kind of tough being blind because you can’t automatically just assume 
> something takes Apple Pay even if it’s a newer terminal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
>> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
>> 
>> Greg Wocher
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>>> they wouldn’t.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 ApplePay is accepted at Target.
 Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
 Walmart.
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 
 
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 Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple 
> Pay.
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>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
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>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
>> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. 
>> And I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
 setting up. thanks.
 
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
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> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
> point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>> 
>> thanks.
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Re: PDF pen question

[Brett Campbell]

I purchased PDF pen with the purpose of being able to read documents within the 
app. I was hoping for a solution to the double line reading I experience in 
Preview. I’ll keep your suggestion in mind, thanks.


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> Hi,
> If you export the PDF to RTF and read it, all pages should be there.
> Thanks,
> Rob
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>> I am new to PDF pen. When I open a document, it will show there are six 
>> pages, for example. I’m able to read the first couple of pages, then 
>> VoiceOver says the remaining pages are blank. When I open the same document 
>> in Preview, I’m able to read all pages. I’m hoping someone here can tell me 
>> what I’m doing wrong.
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Re: PDF pen question

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Hi,

Yes, but if it can be read in Preview, and since PDFPen is a rather expensive 
app that is not doing it’s job, that should only be a temporary solution.  
PDFPen is a good app, is very accessible, so needs some attention by the 
developer to fix this issue.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:08, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> If you export the PDF to RTF and read it, all pages should be there.
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Brett Campbell > > wrote:
>> 
>> I am new to PDF pen. When I open a document, it will show there are six 
>> pages, for example. I’m able to read the first couple of pages, then 
>> VoiceOver says the remaining pages are blank. When I open the same document 
>> in Preview, I’m able to read all pages. I’m hoping someone here can tell me 
>> what I’m doing wrong.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Brett
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Re: Apple Pay

[joseph hodge]

Just chiming in here greg is correct. Walmart is trying to push their own app 
and agenda for payments so they don’t allow for Apple Pay. It’s so ridiculous 
but that’s America. I forget what they called there app but when I last heard 
about it it was doing a lot of tracking. That’s what makes us payment stuff 
kind of tough being blind because you can’t automatically just assume something 
takes Apple Pay even if it’s a newer terminal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless 
> payments is thru the walmart pay app. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was 
>> ill-informed. At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would 
>> be shocked if you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know 
>> about that. But I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why 
>> they wouldn’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at 
>>> Walmart.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@twc.com
>>> Technology support for the blind
>>> Telephone
>>> 254-300-7667
>>> 
>>> Emergency cell
>>> 
>>> 254-813-2461
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>>> 
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>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
 
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
> if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
> I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
>> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does 
>> any good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>>> setting up. thanks.
>>> 
 On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
 there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to 
 point your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
 
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
>> wrote:
> 
> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: PDF pen question

['Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
If you export the PDF to RTF and read it, all pages should be there.
Thanks,
Rob


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
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> I am new to PDF pen. When I open a document, it will show there are six 
> pages, for example. I’m able to read the first couple of pages, then 
> VoiceOver says the remaining pages are blank. When I open the same document 
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> 
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Re: The LA Pronunciation woes

[Dave Carlson]

Hmmm. If I can stand using Standard Tom I may give it a try. Thanks for 
checking.

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On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:35 AM, dan d.  wrote:



Yes, the regular tom.  I just checked to make sure, LAST with all caps speaks 
the word as a whole.  I created a text file containing it and
then opened textedit and it spoke it fully.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Dave Carlson wrote:

> Dan, in my case I am using Tom Compact and that is what it???s doing. Are you 
> using regular Tom?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:25 AM, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> These kind of things tend to be voice specific.  I use tom and it doesn't do 
> as described.  It has its own foibles however.  The speech rules
> appear to be somewhat different for various voices.
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Dave Carlson wrote:
> 
>> On my Mac, I???d like to find a simple solution for this.
>> 
>> When I come across a word in all caps starting with the letters L and A VO 
>> will always say El A  first and then the rest of the word.
>> 
>> For example LAST is pronounced LA Street. LATHE is pronounced LA the.
>> I know LA is Los Angeles so happy that it???s not saying that, but how can I 
>> un-train VO to stop saying El A for any all caps words starting with LA?
>> 
>> LATER (yes LA Ter).
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Apple Pay

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
No you cannot use apple pay at walmart. The only way to do contactless payments 
is thru the walmart pay app. 

Greg Wocher


> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was ill-informed. 
> At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would be shocked if 
> you couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know about that. But 
> I’ve never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why they wouldn’t.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
>> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
>> jhud7...@twc.com 
>> Technology support for the blind
>> Telephone
>> 254-300-7667
>> 
>> Emergency cell
>> 
>> 254-813-2461
>> Skype
>> joseph.hudson89 
>> 
>> facebook
>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404
>> Twitter
>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
 the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know 
 if these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And 
 I'm talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
> card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any 
> good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
>> setting up. thanks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point 
>>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>>> 
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  
> wrote:
 
 How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: The LA Pronunciation woes

[dan d.]

Yes, the regular tom.  I just checked to make sure, LAST with all caps speaks 
the word as a whole.  I created a text file containing it and
then opened textedit and it spoke it fully.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Dave Carlson wrote:

> Dan, in my case I am using Tom Compact and that is what it???s doing. Are you 
> using regular Tom?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:25 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>
>
>
> These kind of things tend to be voice specific.  I use tom and it doesn't do 
> as described.  It has its own foibles however.  The speech rules
> appear to be somewhat different for various voices.
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Dave Carlson wrote:
>
> > On my Mac, I???d like to find a simple solution for this.
> >
> > When I come across a word in all caps starting with the letters L and A VO 
> > will always say El A  first and then the rest of the word.
> >
> > For example LAST is pronounced LA Street. LATHE is pronounced LA the.
> > I know LA is Los Angeles so happy that it???s not saying that, but how can 
> > I un-train VO to stop saying El A for any all caps words starting with LA?
> >
> > LATER (yes LA Ter).
> >
> > Dave Carlson
> > Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar
> >
> >
>
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Re: Apple Pay

[Phil Halton]

A lot changes in the span of a year. Or, maybe that cashier was ill-informed. 
At any rate I’ll bet you can use Apple Pay at Walmart I would be shocked if you 
couldn’t. As far as at the self check outs don’t know about that. But I’ve 
never used the self checkouts anyway I don’t see why they wouldn’t.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> ApplePay is accepted at Target.
> Target also provides free Aira access, which also is not provided at Walmart.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 14:30, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Wow that's good to know. I wish they did.
> Joseph Hudson
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> Technology support for the blind
> Telephone
> 254-300-7667
> 
> Emergency cell
> 
> 254-813-2461
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 
> 
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> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:28 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> About a year ago, a WalMart Cashier told me that they did not do Apple Pay.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:38 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good information to have. As I haven't done this yet before. But I might 
>>> the next time that I have to try to pay for something. Does anybody know if 
>>> these work at the self checkouts? That would be awesome if it did. And I'm 
>>> talking at places such as Walmart. Or even Sam's.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 And by “point “, Joseph means put the phone within a few inches of the 
 card reader. I don’t think simply aiming the phone at the reader does any 
 good because they are “Nearfield readers “.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:04 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> oh ok. so that's what that double click thing was about when I was 
> setting up. thanks.
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:47 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lorie, if you double click the home button, with the screen locked, 
>> there will be an Apple Pay interface that pops up. You'll want to point 
>> your phone at the register with the Apple Pay symbol on it.
>> 
 On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do I use Apple pay on my phone in a store or restaurant?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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