Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Dave, he's not welcome in my inbox if you wanna know why I will talk with you 
privately.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Kliph,
> And to you as well, being a moderator yourself, take your gripes to Joseph 
> off line, please.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> I know its true, because I was that member.
> And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
> titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but 
> there is no better teacher than experience.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
>> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've 
>> talked to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I 
>> forget what she is. But I will not disclose our name here
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted 
>>> to let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not 
>>> power hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that 
>>> Joseph run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
 to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think 
 there are cheaper options.
 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
 
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for 
>> those who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on 
 Mac, iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link 
 below, we both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a 
 total of 4 months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to 
 get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
>>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Dave, not griping. Just sticking up for my own reputation. And what else was 
mentioned here. Sorry that you feel like we're griping.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> You moderators need to take your gripes off list. 
> 
> Dave Carlson
>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:36 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>>> promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Kliph,
And to you as well, being a moderator yourself, take your gripes to Joseph off 
line, please.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Kliph  wrote:

I know its true, because I was that member.
And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but there 
is no better teacher than experience.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>>> promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Joseph,

You moderators need to take your gripes off list. 

Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:36 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for sure 
about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked to one 
of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what she is. 
But I will not disclose our name here

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I 
> have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple products, 
> because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and 
> his groups wonder why people leave?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>> are cheaper options.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>>> /A
>>> 
 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >>> >:
 
 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
 who use the referral link.
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
> I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>> promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
> 
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Continuity Feature

[Muhammad Fayed]

Hi,

How to use continuity feature and when it does work?!

For example, I want to copy text on iPhone and paste it on Mac. I have all 
requirements satisfied, but I don’t understand why nit works and when it 
doesn’t. Sometimes, when I copy something, it is passable on Mac, and sometimes 
it is not.

I run latest iOS on iPhone 10S and latest Mac OS on 2016 15” MBP.

Thank you so much,

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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

I know its true, because I was that member.
And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but there 
is no better teacher than experience.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>>> promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[joseph hudson]

Hi, on my iPhone, I'm no longer seeing the tab the year are referring to. 
Either. I only have home notifications, and search. Are used to have spaces on 
my iPhone. But now I don't even see spaces.
Joseph Hudson

email

jhud7...@twc.com

Telephone

254-698-1414

Emergency cell

254-466-1251

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:44 PM, Brett Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Spaces is where you can host audio only chats.
> Communities is a separate tab.
> Not sure why it isn't showing up for you.
> Just to cover the obvious, this is on iOS on an iPhone (I have not tried this 
> on an iPad)?
> Do you have the latest version of the twitter app?
> Let me see if I can find out why the tab might be missing for you.
> Brett
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:11 PM M. Taylor  > wrote:
> Hello Brett,
> 
> I do not see a tab for Communities, on my Twitter app.  I see a tab labelled 
> Spaces.
> 
> Is Spaces the new area to which you are referring?
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Brett Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter
> 
> Hi,
> Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
> I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
> I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you probably 
> should bookmark for easy access.
> Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for 
> communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the communities 
> I belong to.
> On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
> Brett
> 
> 
> > On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the 
> > community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> > 
> >   Best wishes,
> > 
> > Jonathan Cohn
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis  >> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi all:
> >> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen reader 
> >> related.
> >> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen reader 
> >> related.
> >> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help shape 
> >> the discussion, please join at:
> >> https://twitter.com/i/communities/1497020353159204879 
> >> 
> >> Brett
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: Accessing Download Folder?

[joseph hodge]

Not sure where you did your Covid vaccination but I did mine at Walgreens and 
in the Walgreens app was a place where I could export to Apple wallet. I know 
the same is true if you can view it through your my chart as well if you have 
that. Not sure about actually downloading it and trying to put it in Apple 
wallet as I would assume it would have to be some sort of format. 

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:57 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> You can try  Command Shit L from your finder and see if that works. Also, 
> from spotlight, you can point to the file and do a Command R which will 
> reveal the folder.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 21:55, Fazil M. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> I have downloaded my Vaccination passport and found it in SpotLight search. 
>> How can I access download folder and copy it in my iPhone wallet?
>> Thanks!
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi Mark,
Spaces is where you can host audio only chats.
Communities is a separate tab.
Not sure why it isn't showing up for you.
Just to cover the obvious, this is on iOS on an iPhone (I have not tried
this on an iPad)?
Do you have the latest version of the twitter app?
Let me see if I can find out why the tab might be missing for you.
Brett




On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 7:11 PM M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Brett,
>
> I do not see a tab for Communities, on my Twitter app.  I see a tab
> labelled Spaces.
>
> Is Spaces the new area to which you are referring?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Brett Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter
>
> Hi,
> Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
> I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
> I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you
> probably should bookmark for easy access.
> Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for
> communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the
> communities I belong to.
> On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
> Brett
>
>
> > On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> >
> > Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> >
> >   Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan Cohn
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all:
> >> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen
> reader related.
> >> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen
> reader related.
> >> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for sure 
about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked to one 
of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what she is. 
But I will not disclose our name here

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I 
> have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple products, 
> because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and 
> his groups wonder why people leave?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>> are cheaper options.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>>> /A
>>> 
 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >>> >:
 
 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
 who use the referral link.
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
> I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>> promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
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RE: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brett,

I do not see a tab for Communities, on my Twitter app.  I see a tab labelled 
Spaces.

Is Spaces the new area to which you are referring?

Mark

-Original Message-
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

Hi,
Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you probably 
should bookmark for easy access.
Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for 
communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the communities I 
belong to.
On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
Brett


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the 
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help shape 
>> the discussion, please join at:
>> https://twitter.com/i/communities/1497020353159204879
>> Brett
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Accessing Draft Email in iPhone?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

How can I access the incomplete draft of my email in iPhone, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already apologized 
to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I have been 
using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to let people 
know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power hungry, or 
like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph run.  He kicks 
people off for posting free resources that are apple products, because either 
he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and his groups 
wonder why people leave?


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>  
> 
> 
> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
> 
 
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its only 99 a year, when discount is applied.  And I just renewed with 12 
months only costing me 99


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 4:21 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>  
> 
> 
> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi.
I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
cheaper options.

> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
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> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>> who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
 iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
 both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
 free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Nord Vpn is less pricey.
I use that but I can’t remember how much it was.
/A

> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 22:11 skrev 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
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>> Certified assistive technology specialist
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi.
I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
cheaper options.

> God bless.
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> Certified assistive technology specialist
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> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>> who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
 iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
 both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
 free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
/A

> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph :
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
> use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

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Yeah this definitely wouldn't of been allowed on my list. But there are so many 
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> On Feb 27, 2022, at 1:48 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> This  announcement is completely self-serving in addition to being an 
> inappropriate  promotion.
> The whole point of this announcement is so that Kliph can get free VPN 
> service. Anyone who doesn't see right through this, is not only vision 
> impaired, but clueless as well. Can't imagine this is allowed by the group 
> owners/moderator.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:05, Kliph  wrote:
> 
>  Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Brad Snyder]

This  announcement is completely self-serving in addition to being an 
inappropriate  promotion.
The whole point of this announcement is so that Kliph can get free VPN service. 
Anyone who doesn't see right through this, is not only vision impaired, but 
clueless as well. Can't imagine this is allowed by the group owners/moderator.


- Brad -

On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:05, Kliph  wrote:

 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Kliph,
I think you’re treading on thin ice. You are going to benefit by any of us 
using that link you sent along. So that is a solicitation.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

On Feb 27, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Kliph  wrote:

Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
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> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
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>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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>> 
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
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Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?

['Ron' via MacVisionaries]

Hi there, I have discovered if I simulate a mouse click then I do get a 
clipboard history list. However I don’t get any other options such as 
preferences etc.
Thanks again, Ron.



> On 26 Feb 2022, at 16:50, dan d.  wrote:
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> After launching the app. and when desired;hit the menu bar command twice.  
> This brings up the menu extras menu bar.  The clip app should be a choice.  
> On the menu that appears.  Auto launching at bootup should be a choice under 
> the  menu. preferences item.
> 
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Hi there, thanks forr the reply. If I opem Copyclip from the application 
>> folder I get the message ???copyclip has no windows???. If I copy some text 
>> from Safari to my clipboard I thought there should atbe a copyclip option in 
>> the menu bar. This is not there and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication 
>> folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it 
>> incorrectly? Ron.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store.  I used it 
>>> before flycut, what have you found not to work?  Both install the same
>>> and work the same.  Flycut has more features.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager 
 that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using 
 upto date  Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help.
 
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Brett Lewis]

Hi,
Communities are a pretty new thing on Twitter.
I thought I would create one and see how it goes.
I think the community tweets should show up in your timeline but you probably 
should bookmark for easy access.
Having said that, the iOS app has a tab at the bottom of the screen for 
communities and I am finding that to be a quick way to access the communities I 
belong to.
On the web, communities is under the more item near the top of the page.
Brett


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 09:09, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the 
> community show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 09:53, Brett Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I set up a new community on Twitter for discussing anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> Not specific to any OS or screen reader, just for anything screen reader 
>> related.
>> It is a bit of a work in progress, but if you want to come and help shape 
>> the discussion, please join at:
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[alia robinson]

I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
don’t want promotional emails on this list.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
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> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
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> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

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> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
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> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
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Re: Files stop g

[Brad Snyder]

I believe this is normal behavior. This is what I have experience as long as I 
have been using a Mac. If you want to hear the whole file, you need to open it 
in VLC, or QuickTime player, or some other application.

- Brad -

On Feb 26, 2022, at 21:12, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

dHi,

I use the quick look option with my MacBookair regularly.  Lately, the files 
stop playing after only a flutes of me hitting the space bar.  Most of the 
files I am veg are mp3 files.

What am I doing wrong?  This used to Amy iMac, but now that I am on a laptop it 
seems to not work as smoothly.. did just get vlc, so maybe I’ll try out this 
option, unless anyone has any th?

Thanks,
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Re: New Screen Reader Users Community on Twitter

[Jonathan Cohn]

Seems interesting. I had never heard of Twitter communities. Will the community 
show up in my timeline, or should I book mark it for best access?

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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Re: Alternativ web browser

[Jürgen Fleger]

Thanks to all for your suggestions.
All the best
Jürgen


> Am 26.02.2022 um 20:27 schrieb Terje Strømberg :
> 
> Firefox focus is a new Firefox browser that is a version of Firefox private 
> mode. Firefox Focus is even more private with almost no added features. It 
> has update websites and delete websites. Also settings where you can choose 
> to open the website in Firefox Chrome or standard browser. Firefox Focus app 
> in app store. For the moment i am using iPad. It may work well with voiceover 
> on mac too.
> 
> Take care 
> 
> 
> 
> fre. 25. feb. 2022 kl. 17:51 skrev Jonathan Cohn  >:
> No, Chrome and Edge use the same basic engine, but might use slightly 
> different ways to communicate with VoiceOver.
> Firefox uses a third web rendering tool.
> I am truly amazed at this complaint, I have 7 year old Macintosh running the 
> latest MacOS, and find Safari and VoiceOver are generally working better 
> together than when I first got the computer.
> That being said, websites that are using a lot of JavaScript to move items 
> around visually or constantly update a panel with new items are often 
> problematic with VoiceOver. Also, some sites will provide more information 
> about a point on the screen when the mouse is moved over that point. If Mouse 
> follows VoiceOver cursor is on for these sites, then there might be a delay 
> as the additional information is populated from the DOM to the AOM to 
> VoiceOver. You can create a Macintosh activity to temporarily change Mouse 
> follows behavior, for these sites.
> Jonathan
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
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>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 03:29, Jürgen Fleger > > wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> several times people wrote of the annoiing busy-message of Safari. It my 
>> opinion it’s getting even worse. 
>> 
>> So has anyone experiences in using different browsers and whether this 
>> solves the issue? Or do all web browsers use the same engine and produce the 
>> same delay?
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>> Thanks and all the best
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Re: Accessing Download Folder?

[Herbie Allen]

You can try  Command Shit L from your finder and see if that works. Also, from 
spotlight, you can point to the file and do a Command R which will reveal the 
folder.

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> I have downloaded my Vaccination passport and found it in SpotLight search. 
> How can I access download folder and copy it in my iPhone wallet?
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Re: Files stop g

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Cait,
Here’s how we can look at the QuickLook feature. It allows the ability to check 
out what a file is. But it cannot be changed. So for an audio file, you can 
determine what it is. If you want to access the controls such as playing and 
stopping the file, then you must open the file.
Best,

Les

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 5:18 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
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> Thanks Les.  I’ll def give this a try!
> 
> Cait
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>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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>> Hi Cait,
>> I went to the file I wished to play,. An m4a file which is an audio file. 
>> Then I hit Command-Y and after a few seconds, the file started playing. 
>> Hitting the space Barr interrupted the stream and took me back to the files 
>> list. Give that a shot and see what happens. I thought I needed to hit the 
>> space Barr to start playback, but that actually stopped it. Hope this helps.
>> Best,
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
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>>> dHi,
>>> 
>>> I use the quick look option with my MacBookair regularly.  Lately, the 
>>> files stop playing after only a flutes of me hitting the space bar.  Most 
>>> of the files I am veg are mp3 files.
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong?  This used to Amy iMac, but now that I am on a 
>>> laptop it seems to not work as smoothly.. did just get vlc, so maybe I’ll 
>>> try out this option, unless anyone has any th?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
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Re: CopyClip clipboard manager for Safari - Has anyone got this to work?

['Ron' via MacVisionaries]

Hi there, I was lookimg in the standard menu bar -wrong place! Yes it is  in 
the menu extra’s bar as you said. However when I click this nothing happens. I  
will try uninstalling  and then re-installing, thanks Ron.



> On 26 Feb 2022, at 16:50, dan d.  wrote:
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> After launching the app. and when desired;hit the menu bar command twice.  
> This brings up the menu extras menu bar.  The clip app should be a choice.  
> On the menu that appears.  Auto launching at bootup should be a choice under 
> the  menu. preferences item.
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> On Sat, 26 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Hi there, thanks forr the reply. If I opem Copyclip from the application 
>> folder I get the message ???copyclip has no windows???. If I copy some text 
>> from Safari to my clipboard I thought there should atbe a copyclip option in 
>> the menu bar. This is not there and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication 
>> folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it 
>> incorrectly? Ron.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d.  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store.  I used it 
>>> before flycut, what have you found not to work?  Both install the same
>>> and work the same.  Flycut has more features.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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 Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no frills clipboard manager 
 that was recommended, but I have been unable to get it to work. I am using 
 upto date  Monterrey. Thhanks in advance for any help.
 
 
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Re: Files stop g

[Caitlyn Furness]

Thanks Les.  I’ll def give this a try!

Cait


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi Cait,
> I went to the file I wished to play,. An m4a file which is an audio file. 
> Then I hit Command-Y and after a few seconds, the file started playing. 
> Hitting the space Barr interrupted the stream and took me back to the files 
> list. Give that a shot and see what happens. I thought I needed to hit the 
> space Barr to start playback, but that actually stopped it. Hope this helps.
> Best,
> 
> Les
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
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>> dHi,
>> 
>> I use the quick look option with my MacBookair regularly.  Lately, the files 
>> stop playing after only a flutes of me hitting the space bar.  Most of the 
>> files I am veg are mp3 files.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?  This used to Amy iMac, but now that I am on a laptop 
>> it seems to not work as smoothly.. did just get vlc, so maybe I’ll try out 
>> this option, unless anyone has any th?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cait
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