Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[lenron brown]

I need a list of the best shortcuts. I am finding myself  feeling like
I am so slow on the mac.

On 2/1/23, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> Shortcuts are an essential aspect of Mac usage. Remember as many as you
> can!
>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 19:15, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>
>> Brad, Wow. How do you keep all those keyboard shortcuts in your head? I
>> never knew about using the shift key with that combination to make it a
>> quick and dirty force shutdown.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
>>
>> The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.
>> Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or
>> restart Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> - Brad -
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
>>
>> There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no
>> window message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder
>> and may solve the concern.
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will
>>> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I
>>> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a
>>> program like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it
>>> several minutes to do it.
>>>
>>> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I
>>> don’t lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac
>>> turned on very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect
>>> these things.  What fun.
>>>
>>>
 On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen 
 wrote:

 There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the
 drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the
 issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it,
 give the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a
 formatting issue.

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music
> on.  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying
> that it had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not
> been ejected at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder
> just stops working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on
> the one of them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do
> besides either give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder
> stops working, I can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit
> won’t launch either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this
> necessarily mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go
> further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
>
> My poor, ailing Mac!
>
>
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Duplicate Music playlist

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, there is this annoyance in music where several playlists are being 
duplicated. Say I have dinner jazz, then music creates dinner jazz1. There 
doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason. It’s happened to half a dozen or more.

Any ideas why this is happening or how I can prevent it. I really dislike the 
Mac OS music app.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Mac OS radio app keyboard shortcuts

[Traci Duncan]

Hi, I am not finding Tunein on the Mac App Store. Is it an app I buy on Safari?


> On Jan 30, 2023, at 12:20 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Tunein works with Mac. It is a Mac App.
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2023, at 12:44, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, do you have a Mac radio app recommendation with good keyboard 
>> support? Play/pause, volume control, favorite station etc. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci 
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Re: Be My Eyes and Aira

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Could sure use some input on this. :)

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On 1/31/2023 12:00 PM, etscrivani via MacVisionaries wrote:

I believe Aira says they are able to help in performing/reading a covid at-home 
test. While I have the basic level plan that is the least expensive I have not 
had to use them for testing. It's good to have for emergencies when a sighted 
person is not around.

Eileen


-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 2:07 PM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Be My Eyes and Aira

Hello all,
 while talking with someone about using the COVID home tests, I got to 
wondering if either of the above mentioned services and assist with setting up 
and reading the test results. Comments?

 I have not used either service so would like feedback on them, of either 
is better or if both have value. and how much they cost. Thanks very much.

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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Herbie Allen]

Shortcuts are an essential aspect of Mac usage. Remember as many as you can!

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 19:15, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Brad, Wow. How do you keep all those keyboard shortcuts in your head? I never 
> knew about using the shift key with that combination to make it a quick and 
> dirty force shutdown.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.
> Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or restart 
> Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no 
> window message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and 
> may solve the concern.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
>> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
>> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a 
>> program like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it 
>> several minutes to do it.  
>> 
>> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I 
>> don’t lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac 
>> turned on very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect 
>> these things.  What fun.  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
>>> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the 
>>> issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give 
>>> the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
>>> 
 On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music 
 on.  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying 
 that it had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been 
 ejected at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just 
 stops working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one 
 of them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides 
 either give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops 
 working, I can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t 
 launch either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily 
 mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than 
 just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
 
 My poor, ailing Mac!
 
 
 
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Re: Hiding Apps

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Actually, just as with iOS, there is an option to hide apps on apps 
purchased from the Mac app store. The option simply is not seen by 
Voiceover. This started with Monterey of not earlier.


   Get sighted help, go to the Mac app store, select your account and 
there under Purchased items, pick any app and to the right of the Open 
or Redownload buttons there is a dropdown menu.



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On 2/1/2023 5:02 PM, Erik Heil wrote:

Hello,
I don’t believe that this is possible.  That is, apps that you have 
purchased cannot be deleted from your account.  I believe that this is 
simply due to the legal requirement for record keeping and the such. 
  Well, perhaps someone else can chime in on this, as I am not 
completely sure on this matter.  However, the same is true, for 
instance, if you make a purchase on Amazon.com , 
return the item for whatever reason, you will certainly see a record of 
both the order, as well as the status of the return.


—Erik

On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:44 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Another one that changed in Ventura is ability to hide apps from the 
Mac App store. I wish to hide an app I mistakenly downloaded. For that 
matter, is it even possible to remove them completely from the Hidden 
Purchases section? Thanks.


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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Dave Carlson]

Brad, Wow. How do you keep all those keyboard shortcuts in your head? I never 
knew about using the shift key with that combination to make it a quick and 
dirty force shutdown.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com




On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:

The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.
Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or restart 
Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.

HTH.

- Brad -



On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:

There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no window 
message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and may solve 
the concern.


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a program 
> like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it several 
> minutes to do it.  
> 
> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I don’t 
> lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac turned on 
> very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect these things.  
> What fun.  
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
>> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the 
>> issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give 
>> the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on. 
>>>  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
>>> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected 
>>> at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops 
>>> working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of 
>>> them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either 
>>> give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I 
>>> can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, 
>>> though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the 
>>> external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc 
>>> Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
>>> 
>>> My poor, ailing Mac!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Hiding Apps

[Erik Heil]

Hello, 
I don’t believe that this is possible.  That is, apps that you have purchased 
cannot be deleted from your account.  I believe that this is simply due to the 
legal requirement for record keeping and the such.  Well, perhaps someone else 
can chime in on this, as I am not completely sure on this matter.  However, the 
same is true, for instance, if you make a purchase on Amazon.com 
, return the item for whatever reason, you will certainly 
see a record of both the order, as well as the status of the return. 

—Erik

> On Jan 25, 2023, at 12:44 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Another one that changed in Ventura is ability to hide apps from the Mac 
> App store. I wish to hide an app I mistakenly downloaded. For that matter, is 
> it even possible to remove them completely from the Hidden Purchases section? 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

I am a little afraid it’s the hub I am using. When it happens, I can’t force quit. I can’t get to the menu bar either. It really stops almost everything except for apps like Mail and Safari. I have to open a Mail or Safari to get to the Apple menu.Mary WardOn Feb 1, 2023, at 5:34 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!Thanks for that command Brad.I haven’t noticed that before.Bless!/A1 feb. 2023 kl. 23:01 skrev Bradford Snyder :The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or restart Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.HTH.
- Brad -


On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no window message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and may solve the concern.On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a program like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it several minutes to do it.  I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I don’t lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac turned on very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect these things.  What fun.  On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.My poor, ailing Mac!-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A70F5D0C-CE37-49DD-A279-AAA908CC368C%40icloud.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0C2EB209-4A97-4124-A8C0-82D053B438F2%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 

Re: Can anyone recommend a good smart plug?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I guess the app has a kind of scanner function to let you scan this thing?
It sometimes does not work for me either but for me it was a device with a heat 
pump.
What you could try is to open the control center and find the code scanner or 
qr scanner feature that’s built-in to the iPhone.
TO encourage you, this is a big issue for me to.
Its quite secure but not fun to work with as you have found out.
/A

> 1 feb. 2023 kl. 23:59 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We have been using Wemo smart plugs in our house.  I chose Wemo because the 
> app is mostly accessible, which, as Janina pointed out the other day, is 
> about as good as it gets for much of the smart home technology.  We recently 
> bought two new outlets to replace two that repeatedly disappeared from the 
> network.  We’ve spent the past hour trying to scan the QR code for the first 
> one with no luck.  My sighted husband has been trying to scan the code in the 
> instructions, and I have also tried holding the phone near the outlet, as per 
> the instructions.  Neither has worked.  I’m pretty fed up with Wemo right 
> now.  
> 1. Does anyone know how to resolve the QR code issue?
> 2.  Alternatively, is there another smart outlet that anyone has had good 
> luck with?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thanks for that command Brad.
I haven’t noticed that before.
Bless!
/A

> 1 feb. 2023 kl. 23:01 skrev Bradford Snyder :
> 
> The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.
> Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or restart 
> Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no 
> window message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and 
> may solve the concern.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
>> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
>> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a 
>> program like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it 
>> several minutes to do it.  
>> 
>> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I 
>> don’t lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac 
>> turned on very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect 
>> these things.  What fun.  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
>>> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the 
>>> issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give 
>>> the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
>>> 
 On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music 
 on.  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying 
 that it had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been 
 ejected at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just 
 stops working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one 
 of them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides 
 either give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops 
 working, I can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t 
 launch either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily 
 mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than 
 just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
 
 My poor, ailing Mac!
 
 
 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It could be the cable or the usb port on your Mac or the hard disk.
Though I have never come a cross a bad usb port on a Mac but on my hard disks.
/A

> 1 feb. 2023 kl. 22:13 skrev 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  
> It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at 
> all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working 
> altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I 
> can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up or call 
> AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files 
> from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and 
> Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the external disc is 
> corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for 
> any guidance.
> 
> My poor, ailing Mac!
> 
> 
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Can anyone recommend a good smart plug?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

We have been using Wemo smart plugs in our house.  I chose Wemo because the app 
is mostly accessible, which, as Janina pointed out the other day, is about as 
good as it gets for much of the smart home technology.  We recently bought two 
new outlets to replace two that repeatedly disappeared from the network.  We’ve 
spent the past hour trying to scan the QR code for the first one with no luck.  
My sighted husband has been trying to scan the code in the instructions, and I 
have also tried holding the phone near the outlet, as per the instructions.  
Neither has worked.  I’m pretty fed up with Wemo right now.  
1. Does anyone know how to resolve the QR code issue?
2.  Alternatively, is there another smart outlet that anyone has had good luck 
with?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Bradford Snyder]

The keyboard command CMD + OPT + Escape, will open the Force Quit dialog.
Using CMD + OPT + Shift + Escape, will Force Quit the current app, or restart 
Finder without opening the Force Quit dialog.

HTH.

- Brad -



On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:33, Kaare Dehard  wrote:

There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no window 
message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and may solve 
the concern.


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a program 
> like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it several 
> minutes to do it.  
> 
> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I don’t 
> lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac turned on 
> very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect these things.  
> What fun.  
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
>> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the 
>> issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give 
>> the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on. 
>>>  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
>>> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected 
>>> at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops 
>>> working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of 
>>> them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either 
>>> give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I 
>>> can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, 
>>> though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the 
>>> external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc 
>>> Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
>>> 
>>> My poor, ailing Mac!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Bradford Snyder]

If the drive is formatted NTFS, I recommend reformatting the drive to XFAT.
There are other options, but I like XFAT because it can be read by Windows as 
well as Mac. 

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On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:19, Herbie Allen  wrote:

There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the drive 
itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the issue. Restart 
your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give the drive a couple 
minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  
> It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at 
> all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working 
> altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I 
> can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up or call 
> AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files 
> from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and 
> Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the external disc is 
> corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for 
> any guidance.
> 
> My poor, ailing Mac!
> 
> 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Kaare Dehard]

There is an issue with finder on and off in Ventura. If it gives the no window 
message cmd-option-escape will allow you to re-launch the finder and may solve 
the concern.


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 4:31 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
> disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
> neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a program 
> like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it several 
> minutes to do it.  
> 
> I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I don’t 
> lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac turned on 
> very quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect these things.  
> What fun.  
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
>> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the 
>> issue. Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give 
>> the drive a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on. 
>>>  It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
>>> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected 
>>> at all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops 
>>> working altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of 
>>> them that I can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either 
>>> give up or call AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I 
>>> can’t open files from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, 
>>> though Mail and Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the 
>>> external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc 
>>> Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.
>>> 
>>> My poor, ailing Mac!
>>> 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks.  This is not an older Mac, it’s a 2020 M1.  SO I guess I will 
disconnect all the external drives, all three of them, and restart.  I 
neglected to say that when the Finder stops working, I have to open a program 
like Mail to shut down the computer at all, and it might take it several 
minutes to do it.  

I just disconnected all the external drives, I have three, and I hope I don’t 
lose them all as one of them is my Time Machine backup.  The Mac turned on very 
quickly.  SO Now I guess I will start trying to reconnect these things.  What 
fun.  


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the 
> drive itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the issue. 
> Restart your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give the drive 
> a couple minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  
>> It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
>> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at 
>> all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working 
>> altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I 
>> can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up or call 
>> AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files 
>> from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and 
>> Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the external disc is 
>> corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for 
>> any guidance.
>> 
>> My poor, ailing Mac!
>> 
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Re: Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

[Herbie Allen]

There could be a number of things. The age of your Mac, the cord, or the drive 
itself. If yours is an older Mac though, that is most likely the issue. Restart 
your mac and then plug in the drive. When you open it, give the drive a couple 
minutes to load. There could also be a formatting issue.

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 15:13, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  
> It is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it 
> had not been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at 
> all.  If I try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working 
> altogether.  SO right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I 
> can see.  But is there anything else I can do besides either give up or call 
> AppleCare?  By the way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files 
> from anywhere and apps like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and 
> Safari still work.  Does this necessarily mean that the external disc is 
> corrupted?  Do I need to go further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for 
> any guidance.
> 
> My poor, ailing Mac!
> 
> 
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Disappearing External Drive and Finder issue

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.  I bought a nice big hard disc to store books, movies, and music on.  It 
is connected to my Mac mini via a cable.  I got messages saying that it had not 
been ejected properly, though, of course, it had not been ejected at all.  If I 
try to go to my external drives, the finder just stops working altogether.  SO 
right now, I am running first aid on the one of them that I can see.  But is 
there anything else I can do besides either give up or call AppleCare?  By the 
way, when the Finder stops working, I can’t open files from anywhere and apps 
like TextEdit won’t launch either, though Mail and Safari still work.  Does 
this necessarily mean that the external disc is corrupted?  Do I need to go 
further than just the Disc Utility?  Thanks for any guidance.

My poor, ailing Mac!



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Re: Accessible Whatsapp Client

[Herbie Allen]

I had an easier time finding it by searching for the word Beta. Keep in mind 
though it is Beta software, and if you are not  comfortable with buggy things, 
it may not be something to try just yet.

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 14:17, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I have missed the download link, could someone, please, send me the download 
> link?
> Thanks!
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Lucas Gil Nadolskis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Shawn.
>> It really works well.
>> Thank you very much for sharing this.
>> 
>> Kind regards.
>> 
>> Lucas Nadolskis.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 12:58 AM, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all. If you're still looking for an accessible Whatsapp client, I have 
>>> good news for you. The developers of Whatsapp have made a catalist version 
>>> of the client that is supposed to mimic what you see on your phone. I've 
>>> been testing it out for the past week and it's very accessible. And yes, 
>>> for Intel users, it works very well here too. You can read more about it 
>>> and download the client by going to this article.
>>> https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/24/23568872/whatsapp-macos-catalyst-app-ipad
>>> Regards,
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my Macbook Air
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>>> Matters, Tech Zone and so much more, email me your mobile phone number and 
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Re: IOS 16.3 How to get Safari to read an html file in iCloud drive

[Herbie Allen]

One way I can think of is to put the file in your downloads folder. You should 
then see that folder in Safari and it might open the html that way. I wonder if 
it can also be done in the context menu but not sure.

> On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:46, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am running IOS 16.3 on my iPhone SE 2020.
> I have a html file on my iCloud drive which I want to read with Safari. If I 
> locate the file via the Files App and double tap on it the html file gets 
> loaded into Voicedream reader which I do not want as the html file contains 
> links to web resources which do not work in Voicedream reader.
> Is there any way to choose which App you want to use in IOS to process a 
> chosen file on my iCloud drive? 
> Alternatively is there anything I can do in Safari on IOS to point it to a 
> file in the Files App?
> Many thanks for any tips.
> Best regards … Paul Hopewell
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RE: Accessible Whatsapp Client

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

If you click the link that is on the email it will bring you to an article.

On that you just use voice over to find the official whatsapp website.

Then search for mac OS beta version, and the link is there.

Let me know if you can’t find it.

 

Thanks.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 3:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Whatsapp Client

 

Hello! 

 

I have missed the download link, could someone, please, send me the download 
link?

Thanks!





On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Lucas Gil Nadolskis mailto:nadols...@cmu.edu> > wrote:

 

Hello Shawn. 

It really works well.

Thank you very much for sharing this.

 

Kind regards.

 

Lucas Nadolskis.

 





On Feb 1, 2023, at 12:58 AM, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

 

Hey all. If you're still looking for an accessible Whatsapp client, I have good 
news for you. The developers of Whatsapp have made a catalist version of the 
client that is supposed to mimic what you see on your phone. I've been testing 
it out for the past week and it's very accessible. And yes, for Intel users, it 
works very well here too. You can read more about it and download the client by 
going to this article. 






  
WhatsApp’s new native Mac app is now in open beta

  
theverge.com

 

Regards,

Shawn

Sent from my Macbook Air

To join my Whatsapp groups like Mac Users and Newbies, Accessibility Matters, 
Tech Zone and so much more, email me your mobile phone number and I will add 
you.

Mastodon: bbsshawnontwitch@disabled.social 
 

Follow me on Facebook by searching Shawn Krasniuk

 

 

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Re: Accessible Whatsapp Client

[Mohammad Fazil]

Hello!

I have missed the download link, could someone, please, send me the download 
link?
Thanks!

On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Lucas Gil Nadolskis  wrote:

Hello Shawn.
It really works well.
Thank you very much for sharing this.

Kind regards.

Lucas Nadolskis.


On Feb 1, 2023, at 12:58 AM, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
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Hey all. If you're still looking for an accessible Whatsapp client, I have good 
news for you. The developers of Whatsapp have made a catalist version of the 
client that is supposed to mimic what you see on your phone. I've been testing 
it out for the past week and it's very accessible. And yes, for Intel users, it 
works very well here too. You can read more about it and download the client by 
going to this article.


WhatsApp’s new native Mac app is now in open 
beta
theverge.com

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Re: Accessible Whatsapp Client

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

Hello Shawn.
It really works well.
Thank you very much for sharing this.

Kind regards.

Lucas Nadolskis.


> On Feb 1, 2023, at 12:58 AM, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey all. If you're still looking for an accessible Whatsapp client, I have 
> good news for you. The developers of Whatsapp have made a catalist version of 
> the client that is supposed to mimic what you see on your phone. I've been 
> testing it out for the past week and it's very accessible. And yes, for Intel 
> users, it works very well here too. You can read more about it and download 
> the client by going to this article.
> https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/24/23568872/whatsapp-macos-catalyst-app-ipad
> Regards,
> Shawn
> Sent from my Macbook Air
> To join my Whatsapp groups like Mac Users and Newbies, Accessibility Matters, 
> Tech Zone and so much more, email me your mobile phone number and I will add 
> you.
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IOS 16.3 How to get Safari to read an html file in iCloud drive

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello,
I am running IOS 16.3 on my iPhone SE 2020.
I have a html file on my iCloud drive which I want to read with Safari. If I 
locate the file via the Files App and double tap on it the html file gets 
loaded into Voicedream reader which I do not want as the html file contains 
links to web resources which do not work in Voicedream reader.
Is there any way to choose which App you want to use in IOS to process a chosen 
file on my iCloud drive? 
Alternatively is there anything I can do in Safari on IOS to point it to a file 
in the Files App?
Many thanks for any tips.
Best regards … Paul Hopewell

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